* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:02] ALL RIGHT. WELCOME [1. CALL TO ORDER AND CERTIFICATION OF A QUORUM] EVERYBODY. WELL, IT'S 6:00 PM WELL, ACTUALLY IT IS 6:02 PM WE'LL CALL THIS, UH, DICKINSON MANAGEMENT DISTRICT MEETING TO ORDER, UM, CALL THE ORDER AND CERTIFICATION OF A QUORUM. WALLACE DATES HERE. AMY SKI. HERE. DAVID BLACKSHIRE. HERE. DON ZEKE. HERE. HARRY FULCHER. HERE WE HAVE A QUORUM. AWESOME. MR. D ZEKE, WOULD YOU DELIVER THE INVOCATION? AND DR. FULCHER? WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGES? GOOD LORD, WE'RE JUST GRATEFUL THAT YOU'VE, UH, PLACED US IN A, UH, A COUNTRY THAT WE CAN HAVE THE FREEDOMS THAT WE HAVE. WE ASK FOR WISDOM AS WE WORK WITH THE LOCAL ISSUES AND THE FORM OF GOVERNMENT. JUST ASK THAT YOU HELP US TO, UH, BE CLEAR WITH OUR COMMUNICATION, TO BE, UH, ABLE TO UNDERSTAND AND, AND WORK TOGETHER AS A, A TEAM. JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR LOVE. JESUS NAME, AMEN. AMEN. PLEASURE, ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG. FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO THE REPUBLIC REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. ALL RIGHT. WE DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. DO YOU WANT ME TO READ THIS ANYWAY, JUST IN CASE SOMEBODY IN THE AUDIENCE? IT'S COMPLETELY UP TO YOU. MAY LET'S GO AHEAD JUST IN CASE. ALRIGHT. PUBLIC COMMENTS. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE INVITED TO GIVE COMMENTS AT THIS TIME, LASTING NOT LONGER THAN THREE MINUTES. COMMENTS MAY BE GENERAL IN NATURE OR MAY ADDRESS A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM AND SHOULD NOT BE DIRECTED AT THE ENTIRE BOARD, NOT INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS, OR SHOULD BE DIRECTED AT THE ENTIRE BOARD. NOT INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OF THE MANAGEMENT DISTRICT OR STAFF. ANY SPEAKER MAKING PERSONAL ATTACKS OR USING VULGAR OR PROFANE LANGUAGE SHALL FORFEIT HIS OR HER REMAINING TIME AND SHALL BE SEATED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT. THE DICK DICKINSON MANAGEMENT DISTRICT MAY NOT DELIBERATE. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE CO PUBLIC COMMENT THAT DID NOT SIGN UP? [4. ANNOUNCEMENTS AND PRESENTATIONS] OKAY. ALRIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR. ANNOUNCEMENTS AND PRESENTATIONS. BOARD COMMENTS. MR. BLACKSHIRE. JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT, UH, WELL WELCOME EVERYONE ONLINE AND IN PERSON. AND, UH, LIKE TO SAY STELLA'S IS OPEN. I GOT GOOD FOOD. I'VE BEEN THERE A FEW TIMES MYSELF ALREADY. AND, UH, GLAD, GLAD THAT FINALLY WENT DOWN. MR. DIETS. YEAH, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY WELCOME TO EVERYONE. UH, GLAD TO SEE YOU HERE. HOPE, HOPE WE HAVE A BUNCH ONLINE. MR. ZEKE. WELL, SAME HERE. WELCOME. AND, UH, HOW DO YOU TURN THIS THING ON? TURN IT ON . AND I JUST APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE AND, UH, WORK THROUGH THE, UH, ISSUES IN THE CITY. AND, UH, MY BEST TO HELP EVERYBODY, UH, GET THE, UH, THE BEST FOR THE, WHICH GOVERNMENT CAN PROVIDE FOR A CITY. THANK YOU. AND DR. POLS HERE. YEAH, UH, LIKEWISE. UH, WELCOME TO EVERYONE. I FORGET ABOUT PEOPLE ONLINE. UH, I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S INTEREST AND, UH, SUPPORT IN OUR EFFORTS. AWESOME. AND AS FOR ME, I WILL SAY WELCOME TO EVERYBODY ONLINE AND IN PERSON. UM, I JUST HAD BRUNCH AT STELLA'S THE OTHER DAY. IT WAS FANTASTIC. VERY, UM, NICELY DONE WITH THE DECORATIONS AND EVERYTHING, UM, WITH THE INSIDES. SO, UM, VERY NICE ADDITION TO RESTAURANTS IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND ALSO WELCOME TO MR. ZEKE, WHO IS JOINING US ON THE BOARD AND WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU. THANK YOU. UM, ALRIGHT. STAFF COMMENTS. MR. MINO? DID I SAY THAT RIGHT? YOU DID MEKE. THANK YOU. . I WAS GONNA INTERRUPT, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE, UM, GET IT. WE GOT IT FIXED NOW, BUT I WAS JUST GONNA LET YOU KNOW THAT WE WERE HAVING SOME INTERNET ISSUES AND APPARENTLY WE WERE IN AND OUT ON OUR FACEBOOK LIVE FEED JUST FOR THE RECORD SO THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE MAY HAVE HAD AUDIO THE WHOLE TIME. SO JUST SO YOU KNOW. BUT IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING NOW. SO, UM, SO THEY CAN SEE OUR BEAUTIFUL FACES NOW, OUR BEAUTIFUL FACES. SO MY BIG HAT NOW. SO, UM, I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANYTHING FROM, UH, ADMIN SIDE, JUST A LITTLE HOUSE CLEAN CLEANING WITH THAT, UH, INTERNET ISSUE THAT WE JUST HAD. AWESOME. I DID NOTICE IN THE MINUTES THAT [00:05:01] WE ARE GONNA TALK ABOUT SOME RAILROAD EXPENDITURES. DID THAT COME UP? DID YOU HAVE ANY UPDATES FOR US ON THAT? THE, FROM ME, THE, THE DEPOT? YEAH. THE DEPOT. MM-HMM . I'M, I'M SORRY. I, I'M, YES, EVERYTHING HAS BEEN COMPLETED. YOU SAID RAILROAD AND I, I APOLOGIZE. I'VE BEEN WORKING. I MADE THE DEPOT MY YES MA'AM. NO, I FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN THOUGH. UM, IT JUST, YOU LOST ME FOR A SECOND. I WAS LIKE MORE RAILROAD EXPENDITURES. THINKING ABOUT, THINKING ABOUT HUGHES ROAD PROJECT. OKAY. SO ANYWAYS, ACROSS, UH, THOSE EXPENDITURES HAVE BEEN, HAVE BEEN MADE. THEY'RE COMPLETED AND THE DEPOT IS CORRECTED. UM, NOW IT'S JUST A MATTER OF GETTING THE ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICE AGREEMENTS WITH ANY, UM, GROUP THAT WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO, UH, UTILIZE THE FACILITY AS WELL AS COME UP WITH A GOOD FEE SCHEDULE AND ALLOW COUNSEL TO MAKE A DETERMINATION ON WHAT THEY THINK IS THE RIGHT PRICE. OKAY. TO RENT THAT FACILITY OUT MOVING FORWARD. OKAY. YEAH. ON THAT. SO WE HAD APPROVED, I THINK IT WAS LIKE 36,000 AND SOME CHANGE FOR THE AC UH, REPAIRS AND THE, UH, ELECTRICAL. IS THAT WHAT IT, WHAT DID WE COME IN UNDER OR OVER ON THAT? DO YOU HAVE THOSE EXACT NUMBERS? . WELL, AND THAT'S OKAY. YOU DON'T HAVE EXACT NUMBERS, CONDITIONS. SINCE THIS ITEM IS NOT POSTED ON THE AGENDA, I WOULD SAY LET'S NOT DELVE TOO DEEPLY INTO IT. OKAY. OKAY. UM, OKAY. SO WE COULD BRING THAT UP UNDER, UH, YEAH, WE'VE PROBABLY THE FINANCIAL WE NEED TO PUT ON THE, UNDER THE FINANCIAL REPORT. SURE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU MR. MALINA. UM, AND ITEM FOUR C, EXCITING. WE'RE GONNA SWEAR IN OUR NEW DICKINSON MANAGEMENT. WE NUMBER ONE BOARD MEMBER DON ZEKE, POSITION THREE. GO DOWN THERE. THINK RIGHT OUT HERE. , RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. OKAY. SO, UM, WE'RE GONNA SWEAR YOU IN. UM, AND THEN YOU'LL, I'LL STATE THE LINE AND THEN YOU'LL REPEAT AFTER ME. SO I DON ZI DO Z DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR. DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES. YEAH. FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE OF BOARD MEMBER OF THE OFFICE OF BOARD MEMBER OF THE DICKINSON MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, NUMBER ONE OF THE DICKINSON MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. NUMBER ONE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS. OF THE STATE OF TEXAS. AND WILL TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY, TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES AND OF THIS STATE. SO HAVE AWESOME, CONGRATULATIONS. [5. CONSENT AGENDA] ALRIGHT, NEXT IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA. THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE CONSIDERED ROUTINE BY THE MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION. THERE WILL NOT BE A SEPARATE DISCUSSION ON THESE ITEMS UNLESS A BOARD MEMBER REQUESTS IN WHICH EVENT THE ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND DISCUSSED AFTER THE CONSENT AGENDA. ITEM FIVE. A CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE DICKINSON MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. NUMBER ONE, REGULAR MEETING HELD ON MAY 14TH, 2026. ITEM FIVE B, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE FINANCIAL REPORT FOR FISCAL YEAR 26 PERIOD ENDING APRIL, 2026. AND ITEM FIVE C, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE FISCAL YEAR 20 25, 20 26, SECOND QUARTER TRANSFER REQUEST. UM, I'D LIKE TO PULL FIVE B DOWN FOR SEPARATE CONSIDERATIONS SINCE, UH, THAT'S WHERE WE'LL BE ABLE TO DISCUSS, UH, THE ACTUAL COST OF THE, UH, RAILROAD MUSEUM REPAIRS THAT WE AUTHORIZED. AWESOME. SO, PULLING ITEM FIVE B. ANY OTHERS? I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON FIVE A SINCE I WAS NOT HERE. IS IT APPROPRIATE TO, UH, DO THAT ONE SEPARATELY SINCE I CAN'T VOTE FOR IT? REALLY, I DON'T THINK. MR. DO I KNOW YOU'VE, YOU'VE HAD THIS QUESTION IN THE PAST AND YOU'VE HAD A GOOD ANSWER FOR IT. IT REALLY IS UP TO YOU. THERE'S NOT ANY PROHIBITION THAT SAYS THAT YOU CANNOT VOTE FOR SOMETHING OR SOME MINUTES. UH, YOU CAN RELY ON OTHERS THAT ARE ON THE BOARD THAT CAN SPEAK TO OR FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH APPROVING THE MINUTES, OR YOU COULD CHOOSE TO UPSTATE. OKAY. IF IT'S, IF IT DIDN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE, THAT'S FINE. ALRIGHT. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, MOVE ON? A AND [00:10:01] C. A C AND D. JUST A AND C. FIVE. A AND FIVE C. WHICH HOLD B? MOTION TO APPROVE. FIVE A AND FIVE CI. SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. [5.B. Consideration and possible action to approve the Financial Report for FY26 Period Ending April 2026.] ITEM FIVE B. MOTION. I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION IN ORDER TO DISCUSS. WELL, I JUST WANTED TO, I WOULD RECOMMEND A, WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT, BUT YOU DO. YES. MOTION TO APPROVE FIVE B WOULD BE IN ORDER. YEAH. SO MOVE I SECOND. YEAH. PERFECT. AND YOU NEED A DISCUSSION? YEAH, . OKAY. SO BACK TO WHERE WE WERE, UH, BEFORE, DO YOU HAVE THE ACTUAL COSTS THAT CAME IN ON, ON THE RAILROAD, UH, ON THE, UH, THE DEPOT REPAIRS FOR THE AC AND THE ELECTRICAL PANEL? BECAUSE I, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW ACCURATE THOSE ESTIMATES WERE WHEN, WHEN WE APPROVED THE EXPENDITURE, UM, YES SIR. WE HAD THE AC UNIT CAME IN AT $9,450 AND THEN THE, UM, REPLACEMENT, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT, WHAT EXACTLY WHAT THIS ONE ENTAILED, BUT IT WAS FOUR 15,200. SO THAT WAS THE, UH, ELECTRICAL PANEL, I GUESS? YES. THAT'S, UM, SO THE TOTAL CAME IN AT $24,650. OKAY. SO IT WOULD'VE BEEN LESS THAN WHAT WE THOUGHT. SO YEAH, THE QUESTION IS FEE. WHAT HAPPENS TO THE, UH, 11,000 AND CHANGE JUST STAYS IN OUR BUDGET. RIGHT. DID YOU, DID, DID YOU NOT, DID YOU ONLY PULL OUT FROM DMD TO COVER THE COST? YES, SIR. WE DIDN'T, WE'RE NOT PULLING OUT THE FULL AMOUNT. WHAT WE BUDGETED, WE ARE ONLY PULLING OUT THE ACTUAL COST. AND THOSE, THOSE, SO THE 11,000 IS STILL GOING TO REMAIN IN, UM, SPECIAL PROJECTS FOR WHATEVER YOU CHOOSE TO USE IT FOR. SO WAS THAT IN THE UNFORESEEN CORRECT. BUDGET. OKAY. CORRECT. SO IT'S STILL IN THERE? YES, SIR. OKAY, GOOD. THAT WAS THE QUESTION. . ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY POST MOTION CARRIES. ALRIGHT. OLD BUSINESS DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE HAVE ANY ITEM SEVEN NEW BUSINESS DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S ANY, SO ITEM EIGHT, EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM EIGHT A. A BUDGET SHOULD BE IN OH, BUDGET. WHERE IS IT LISTED? IT'S NOT LISTED. AND I, I DO HAVE A QUESTION. I, THE ONE THAT WAS POSTED ONLINE HAD A FIVE D, HAS IT BEEN PULLED? NO. OH MAN. HAD AN ERROR IN OUR AGENDA. THAT WAS A MONTHLY ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICE AND SERVICE AGREEMENT. ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING THE SERVICE AGREEMENT? UH, APPROVAL? IT WAS IN THE PACKAGE, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT. GOOD CATCH. YEP. THE ONE ONLINE IS CORRECT. ALRIGHT, SO I LOOKED AT IT ONLINE ALSO. YEAH, THE ONE LINE IS CORRECT. [5.D. Consideration and possible action to approve the Monthly Administrative Service Agenda Dickinson Management District #1 4403 State Highway 3 Dickinson, TX 77539 The presiding member and a quorum of the Dickinson Management District #1 will be present at the physical location shown above. Thursday, July 23, 2026 at 6:00 PM Agreement Fee Transfer Request for May and June 2026.] OKAY. SO LET'S, UM, GO BACK TO ITEM FIVE CONSENT AGENDA AND WE'LL TAKE ITEM FIVE D CONSIDERATION AND PO POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE MONTHLY ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICE AGREEMENT FEE TRANSFER REQUEST FOR MAY AND JUNE, 2026. WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? SO MOVE SECOND. ALL, UH, UH, I DO HAVE ONE COMMENT. HEY, DISCUSSION . I DO HAVE ONE COMMENT ABOUT THE, UH, WHAT WAS IN THE PACKAGE, UH, THAT WE WAS ONLINE. UH, IT DOES SEEM A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING. I HOPE THE MINUTES WILL BE MORE CLEAR, BUT, UH, THIS IS FOR THE THIRD QUARTER OR THE SECOND QUARTER. FOR THE THIRD QUARTER IN THE, IT SAYS THE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF IS TO APPROVE THE SECOND QUARTER TRANSFER. SO I, THAT WAS MY FAULT. I DIDN'T UPLOAD. SO DIRECTED IN THE ACTUAL MINUTES OKAY. TO BE THE THIRD QUARTER TRANSFER. OKAY. AND THE, UM, REQUEST THAT IS ATTACHED IS A THIRD QUARTER. SO, OKAY. THAT'S MY ONLY ACCOUNT. THANK YOU DON. APPRECIATE THAT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. ALRIGHT. NEW BUSINESS. [00:15:01] 'CAUSE WE OLD BUSINESS, WE DIDN'T HAVE SIX. IT'S RIGHT. I DON'T, THIS WAS PRINTED FROM, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF ISSUES TODAY WITH THIS. OKAY. SO, UM, IT, IT'S RIGHT ON SEVEN A DISCUSSION. THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT. I'M LOOKING AT THE ONE ONLINE NOW ON MY, ON MY DEVICE HERE. OKAY. SO, [7.A. Discussion of Preliminary FY2027 Budget for the Dickinson Management District] UH, NEW BUSINESS SEVEN, A DISCUSSION OF PRELIMINARY FISCAL YEAR 2027 BUDGET FOR THE DICKINSON MANAGEMENT DISTRICT. AND MS. SARAH, WE'LL HEAR FROM YOU. YOU THE NEXT SLIDE, KIM, UM, ON THE SCREEN WILL BE THE SUMMARY OF WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE IN YOUR PACKET. UM, WE ARE CURRENTLY ESTIMATING $3.2 MILLION OF SALES TAX REVENUE THAT IS BASED ON 12 MONTH TRAILING OF WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT'S $800,000 LESS THAN WE BUDGETED LAST YEAR. UM, INTEREST INCOME IS ONLY SLIGHTLY LESS THAN WE BUDGETED LAST YEAR. UM, WITH THAT WE TOOK OUT A FEW ITEMS INCLUDING STREET PROJECTS, UM, BESIDES AND SPONSORSHIPS AS YOU KNOW, THE MORATORIUMS IN PLACE. SO WE TOOK OUT THE SPONSORSHIPS, UM, AND REALLY EVERYTHING ELSE WE KIND OF KEPT THE SAME. UM, AND IS UP FOR DISCUSSION OBVIOUSLY. WHAT WOULD YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEND SOME OF THE PROJECTS ON? AND YOUR DETAILS, YOU'LL SEE $335,000. SURE. I DON'T WANNA MM-HMM . INTERRUPT, BUT CAN WE TALK LINE BY LINE ABOUT WHAT THE, UH, EACH ONE ABSOLUTELY. OR COMMENTS, UH, AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY COMMENTS ON A SURE. LINE AND THEN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE. YEP, SURE CAN. UH, OKAY. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, SO THE, THE WORKSHEET THAT YOU, YOU SENT OUT WAS, UH, PERIOD ENDING NINE 30. AM I LOOKING AT THIS RIGHT? 'CAUSE OF THAT THE, THE ONE IN THE PACKET STATED 25 26. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN 27, IT SHOULD HAVE JUST BE 27. YEAH. WELL, WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS, UH, IT IS CORRECT ON THIS PRINTOUT, BUT IT'S NOT CORRECT ON WHAT WAS IN THE PACKET ONLINE. RIGHT. WHAT IS NOT CORRECT. UH, THE, THE PRINTOUT FROM WHAT WAS ONLINE. OKAY. IT SAID 2025 TO 2026. YES. IT SHOULD BE 27. OKAY. WELL I WAS LOOKING AT THE, I WAS LOOKING AT THE, UH, THIS IS PAGE 25, 26, YEAH. MM-HMM . THAT'S THE SAME AS WHAT THIS IS 25, 26. I KNOW, BUT THIS IS A BUDGET WORK SHIFT FOR 26 TO 27. RIGHT. OKAY. GOT IT. SO IT'S JUST GOT IT. BUT THE ONE THAT WAS, UH, ONLINE FOR, UH, REVENUE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST, UH, ACCOUNT CODE WAS SHOWING. UH OH, THAT'S CRAZY. OKAY. THAT'S ACTIVITY. SO THE ACTIVITY ON THAT ONE IS, IS 25, 26. AND IT'S PROBABLY FOR, THAT'S THE ONE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WAS, UH, TWO QUARTERS IN ONE MONTH AND IT WAS, UH, 1,672,000 AND SOME CHANGE. AND ON THIS ONE, THIS'S GOT 2002 85, 78 MAY IS INCLUDED IN THE YEAR TO DAY ACTIVITY ON THE BUDGET WORKSHEET ON THIS ONE. SO YES, THAT IS, THAT IS THROUGH MAY. THE FINANCIALS YOU JUST APPROVED ARE THROUGH APRIL. OKAY. WORKSHEET. SO THIS IS, UH, YEAH, WE'RE HAVING TO WORK OFF THE ONE THAT WAS ONLINE. WELL, EVEN THE ONE, THE ONE, THEY'RE BOTH THE SAME. WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON YOUR SCREEN AND WHAT YOU GOT ONLINE IS THE SAME NUMBERS. YOU JUST HAVE MORE DETAILS ON THE ONE THAT YOU GOT ONLINE. AND THEN I EMAILED 'EM TO YOU. THEY'RE ALL THE SAME THAN, WELL, ACTUALLY I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT. THE NUMBERS MAY NOT BE THE SAME. I'M NOT, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. 1.6 VERSUS 2.2. YEAH. YEAH, THAT'S FINE. THE ONE THAT I SENT TO YOU, I SENT BEFORE, WE HAD MAY IN, BUT EVEN THOUGH THE ONE THAT WAS PRINTED OUT THAT WAS SITTING HERE, IT HAS THE 1.6. I DON'T KNOW WHO WE PULLED THAT, WE PULLED THAT FROM THE ONLINE VERSION JUST SO YOU WOULD HAVE A PAPER COPY. YEAH. MY QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH THE, UH, THE CALCULATION FOR GETTING UP TO 3.2 MILLION. OKAY. UH, IF YOU TAKE A, AN, UH, DIVIDE THE 1.62 MILLION BY SEVEN MONTHS AND MULTIPLY IT BY 12, YOU ONLY COME UP WITH ABOUT 28 2 0.8 MILLION [00:20:01] PROJECTED. YEAH. PROJECTED. AND BASED ON OUR PAST EXPERIENCE OF ALWAYS TENDING TO UNDERRUN SALES TAX, IT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE TO PUT AN EXTRA 400,000 IN THERE IF WE JUST BARELY OR UNDERRUN OUR REVENUES IN THE, IN HISTORY. IS THAT JUST, HOW DID WE GET TO 3.2 MILLION? IT'S 12 MONTHS TRAILING. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. I BELIEVE I SENT YOU THE SPREADSHEET THAT I USED TO COME LOOK THAT NUMBER. IT IS THAT, UM, IT'S THAT THREE 80 MONTHLY CALCULATION SPREADSHEET. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT AND YOU TAKE FROM APRIL, LEMME TRY TO PULL IT UP, IS MY CALCULATION WAS FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD. YES, IT WAS. TAKE THE 1.6 I I UNDERSTAND I DID THE SAME THING TWO DIVIDED BY SEVEN TIMES. I DID THE 12 COMES OUT TO 2.8 MILLION I OR ROUGHLY 2.9. OKAY. SO IF YOU TAKE FROM APRIL, 2026, I'M SORRY, 2025, NO, I LOST IT AGAIN. APRIL, 2025. MR. ZEKE, I SENT, I SENT YOU THE SPREADSHEET IF YOU REMEMBER CORRECTLY, BUT IT'S FROM JUNE, 2025 UNTIL MAY, 2026. WE HAVE DONE 3.2 MILLION. SO I JUST DID TRAILING 12 MONTHS INSTEAD OF AN AVERAGE OF THE LAST 12 OF, INSTEAD OF THE AVERAGE OF WHAT OUR CURRENT ACTIVITY IS. I DID THE TRAILING 12 MONTHS. OKAY. YOU INCLUDED, UH, FIVE MONTHS FROM THE PREVIOUS. CORRECT. SO IT'S FROM SEPTEMBER, 2025 UNTIL MAY, 2026 IS 2.3 0.2 MILLION. THAT'S HOW IT IES THE CITY'S SALES TAX AS WELL. OKAY. SO IT WOULD BE MORE ACCURATE THAN AVERAGE BECAUSE WE WENT SO LOW THIS YEAR. I DIDN'T WANNA USE AN AVERAGE BECAUSE THAT WE HAD TWO MONTHS THAT WERE VERY LOW THAT WE SHOULD NOT SEE THOSE NUMBERS AGAIN. DO WE HAVE REASON, REASON TO BELIEVE SO I PREFER THE 12 MONTHS TRAILING. NOW, OF COURSE IT'S UP TO THE BOARD IF YOU WOULD RATHER USE THE AVERAGE OR WHAT NUMBER YOU WOULD LIKE TO USE. BUT I USED 12 MONTHS TRAILING. OKAY. 'CAUSE THAT PREVIOUS FIVE MONTHS WAS QUITE A BIT HIGHER THAN WHAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING FOR THE LAST SEVEN MONTHS. NOT TECHNICALLY. I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT, WE HAVE GONE UP IN THE LAST FOUR MONTHS, SO SALES TAX IS INCREASING. UM, JANUARY AND FEBRUARY WERE TWO OF THE WORST MONTHS WE HAD SEEN. YEAH, I'M JUST LOOKING. BUT IT'S COM AT IT'S COMPLETELY UP TO THE WORD. WE CAN DO AN AVERAGE OF THE TWO. UM, IF YOU THINK 3.2 IS TWO, I THINK IT'S TOO OPTIMISTIC. OKAY. DO YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT THE AVERAGE BETWEEN THE, THE TWO? ARE YOU CONSIDERING WE UNDER RAN TO THE DIFFERENCE? SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE? YEAH. WE'RE GONNA UNDERRUN BY ALMOST $800,000 OR SO OR MORE THIS YEAR, BUT WE ALSO BUDGETED LESS THAN $800,000 LESS THAN WE DID LAST YEAR. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I USED $800,000. 'CAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S $800 RUNNING AT $800,000 LESS THAN LAST YEAR. BUT WE CAN DO TWO AND WE CAN DO 3 MILLION IF THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS WANNA DO. IT'S COMPLETELY UP TO YOU. I WOULD THINK IT'D BE BETTER TO GO WITH, UH, 3 MILLION THAN 33.2. OKAY. I'M OKAY WITH THAT TOO. I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. BETTER BE A LITTLE MORE CONSERVATIVE. YEAH, NO PROBLEM. ARE INVESTMENTS, UH, FOR AN INTEREST INCOME, ARE THEY ALL IN A CD OR MONEY MARKET? UH, THERE'S A POOL, A GOVERNMENT POOL THAT WE WERE IN AND THEN JUST OUR, OUR CHECKING, UM, INTEREST, WHICH IS ACTUALLY VERY SIMILAR TO THE POOL ACCOUNT. THAT'S ONLY A POINT PERCENT OFF TYPICALLY. UM, BUT WE JUST HAVE ONE, UM, TEXT POOL INVESTMENT ACCOUNT. OKAY. YEAH, I WAS VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THAT ONE. IT SEEMED LIKE, UH, VERY RELIABLE. AND THEN I WOULD GUESS WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT BOARD AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT LINE, WELL WE FIVE, LET'S START WITH THE HOLIDAY DECORATIONS. YEAH. OKAY. JUST, JUST GO DOWN THE OKAY. ONE AT A TIME. GOT IT. THAT'S WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR. YEAH, WE DID. AND YOU HAD A NEW GUY THEN . YES, WE DID. WE DID. . GO AHEAD, DON . WELL, I'M SORRY, I JUST NO, YOU, [00:25:01] YOU'RE PERFECTLY FINE. THIS IS GOOD. I WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, I WAS HERE AT THE, UH, BUDGET, BUDGET MEETING FOR THE CITY, UH, THIS LAST WEEK OR TWO WEEKS AGO. AND THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF SHORTFALL OVERALL. AND I THINK THAT THE CITY'S GONNA NEED TO GET TIGHT ON OUR EXPENDITURES. UM, SO THE, WE MAY BE ABLE TO SUPPLY MORE MONEY BACK INTO THE CITY BUDGET TO HELP WITH THINGS THAT YOU CAN'T, THAT ARE NOT ARBITRARY, THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO DO. AND SO I'M, I'M VERY CAUTIOUS, UH, ABOUT, UH, BEING GENEROUS, UH, WITH, UH, THE DECORATIONS, ESPECIALLY NOT TO INCREASE, IF ANYTHING, MAYBE CUT BACK SOME FROM A PHILOSOPHICAL STANDPOINT. UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE AS A BOARD ARE LOOKING FOR, UH, WHAT THE, THE CITY PRIORITIES ARE. AND I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO, UH, TO RELATE TO US IS THAT, FOR INSTANCE, IF THERE WAS NO DMD, WOULD THE CITY SPEND $60,000 IN THE CURRENT BUDGET CRUNCH ON CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS? YEAH. IF THAT'S A QUESTION FOR ME IN THE CITY, THE ANSWER IS PROBABLY NO. YEAH. AND SO, UH, I WOULD, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU. I WOULD ALSO TELL YOU THAT, UM, AS Y'ALL LEARN THAT THAT DISCUSSION, WHILE WE MAY ALL AGREE IN THIS ROOM, WILL COME WITH A LOT OF OUR CITIZENS AND THEIR CONCERN FOR WHY WE'RE NOT DECORATING, WE GET A TON OF COMPLAINTS. SO I ASSURE YOU DOESN'T MEAN THAT I DON'T DISAGREE WITH, OR THAT I DISAGREE WITH YOU, BUT I WILL TELL YOU I DO. I THINK 60 GRAND IS HIGH. I I I DON'T, IT'S IT'S PRETTY HIGH. UM, WELL, I, I GUESS, UH, CAN WE CUT BACK ON IT? GUESS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY I, UH, PREFACE THIS WITH, IT'S KIND OF A PHILOSOPHICAL THING, BUT THE, THE, THE MAIN PART OF THAT IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, OUR MISSION IS TO SUPPLEMENT CITY NEEDS. AND, UH, SO WE DEPEND HEAVILY ON, UH, ON THE CITY TO, UH, UH, REQUEST ON A PRIORITY BASIS WHAT THOSE NEEDS ARE. SO I DON'T THINK THAT THE CITY IS PREPARED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CUT THE FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS MONEY. I THINK THAT THE DMD NEEDS TO MAKE THAT DECISION. OKAY. WE KI I KIND OF SWITCHED TO, UH, IN THIS BUDGET IS, IS, UH, ARE THE CITY'S PRIORITIES, UH, TAKEN CARE OF? I DON'T SEE, I DON'T SEE A LOT IN HERE THAT, UH, AND, AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF FLYING BLIND A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THE CITY'S WORKING ON THEIR BUDGET. CORRECT. YOU KNOW, SO, UH, NO, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, NO, THE CITY'S NEEDS ARE NOT MET. EVERYBODY KNOWS WE HAVE AN $800,000 DEFICIT. THERE IS ROOM AS WE GET DOWN INTO THIS BUDGET DEEPER, UM, TO TRANSFER MORE FUNDS TO THE CITY FOR CITY NEEDS. UM, SPECIFICALLY WITH THE AMBULANCE. THE AMBULANCE IS NOT GOING TO COST $800,000 AS ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED. SO WE CAN DISCUSS THAT WHEN WE GET TO THAT LINE ITEM. BUT, UM, NO, I AGREE. WE NEED TO TRANSFER AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO THE CITY, WHICH IS WHY WHEN YOU GET TWO SPECIAL PROJECTS, YOU WILL SEE THAT BASICALLY I TOOK THE FUND BALANCE AND PUT IT INTO CITY NEEDS. SO I, I'M HOPING THAT THAT IS WHAT YOU WILL APPROVE IS TO TAKE PRETTY MUCH, THERE WAS $335,000. OH, THAT WAS THE, UH, AND THAT, SO I TOOK THAT AND UNEXPECTED. YES, CORRECT. THAT'S WHAT THE UNFORESEEN NEEDS ARE. I DO JUST WANNA, I WAS GONNA RECOMMEND THAT TOWARDS STREET PROJECTS. WELL, AND THAT, THAT WAS GONNA BE, AGAIN, WHEN WE GET TO THAT ITEM, IF YOU, I MEAN WE CAN SKIP AROUND. IT'S UP TO YOU. STREET, STREET PROJECT WE'RE GOING LINE LINE. WE'RE STILL ON. WE'RE LINE, LINE, LINE. BUT WE, WHEN WE GET TO STREET PROJECTS, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT. WELL, I JUST WANNA REITERATE OUR ARTICLE TWO, OUR STATEMENT OF PURPOSE FOR THE DICK DICKINSON MANAGEMENT DISTRICT IN OUR ORGANIZATIONAL BYLAWS, STATES THAT THE CREATION OF THE DISTRICT IS ESSENTIAL TO ACCOMPLISH THE PURPOSE OF SECTION 52 AND 52. A ARTICLE TWO AND SECTION 59, ARTICLE XV ONE, WHATEVER NUMERAL THAT IS SECTION 58 53, TEXAS CONSTITUTION AND NECESSARY TO PROMOTE, TO DEVELOP, ENCOURAGE, AND MAINTAIN EMPLOYMENT, [00:30:01] COMMERCE, TRANSPORTATION, HOUSING, TOURISM, RECREATION, THE ARTS, ENTERTAINMENT, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, SAFETY, AND THE PUBLIC WELFARE IN THE DISTRICT. AND CHRISTMAS IS THE HEART OF OUR, I MEAN IT'S CHRISTMAS AND THE FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS IS BRINGS PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE COUNTY, SOME FROM AROUND THE NATION THAT HAVE FAMILY REUNIONS HERE. UH, AND, AND PLAN IT AROUND THAT EVENT. I MEAN, IT'S, IT REALLY IS KIND OF A GEM OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT I DON'T, I MEAN, WE COULD POTENTIALLY ASK TO HAVE THE FESTIVAL LIGHTS COME TO OUR NEXT MEETING AND DO A PRESENTATION, HAVE THEM INVENTORY THEIR NEEDS THIS YEAR AND SEE IF THERE'S POTENTIALLY ANY WAY THEY COULD CUT BACK ON THEIR NEEDS TO HELP US OUT. UM, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT COMPLETELY CUTTING THAT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO EITHER BECAUSE IT'S FOR OUR CITIZENS. IT'S A CELEBRATION OF, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO A LOT OF OUR CITIZENS. MAYBE NOT ALL OF 'EM, BUT A GOOD NUMBER. WHEN, WHEN DOES THAT FUNDING COME DUE? WE USUALLY PAY FOR IT RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR. IT'S ONE OF THE FIRST CHECKS WE WRITE IN OCTOBER. SO IT'S ALREADY BEEN PAID FOR THIS YEAR? OH YEAH. YES SIR. OH, FOR FISCAL YEAR 26? YES. OKAY. YES. SO TO FUND THEIR SEASON THIS YEAR WOULD BE OCTOBER. YES. BUT DO THEY TURN IN AN ANNUAL REQUEST? YES. AND WE HAVEN'T GOT THAT YET, RIGHT? I DON'T BELIEVE SO. WE USUALLY DON'T GET IT TILL THE END OF THE, WELL WE, WE MOVED AWAY FROM HAVING THEM DO AN ANNUAL REQUEST BECAUSE WE PUT IT AS A LINE ITEM LAST YEAR. WE DID, WE PUT IT AS A LINE ITEM IN THE BUDGET. AND THEY, HE HAS STILL SENT IN A REQUEST EVERY YEAR, EVEN THOUGH HE DOESN'T. OH, SO THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO? NO. SO THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO DO ANY REPORTING OR NO, THEY STILL DO THE REPORTING TO US, WHICH IS WHAT THEY GAVE AT THE LAST MEETING. THEY GAVE US A FULL FINANCIAL REPORT. YEP, YEP. WELL, I THINK IT, I THINK IT WAS, YOU KNOW, WORTH HAVING THE DISCUSSION ON, UH, I DIDN'T LOOK AT THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, I GUESS THE TAXPAYERS ARE, UH, CONTRIBUTING ABOUT A DOLLAR AHEAD IF THEY HAVE 50,000 PEOPLE THERE AND THEY CHARGE NOTHING. SO, YOU KNOW, THE, I KNOW, I KNOW THIS IS IN OUR BUDGET, BUT YOU KNOW, FROM A COUNCIL STANDPOINT, UM, WHAT IS THAT HALF A CENT OF ADVIL? ALARM TAX? SALES TAX? HMM. SALES TAX? NO, THE EQUIVALENT OF, OF A, A PENNY OF AVAL. ALARM TAX IS WHAT? 110,000, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT'S AROUND THERE. YES SIR. OKAY. SO WE'RE TALKING A LITTLE LESS THAN A HALF A CENT OF A ALARM TAX EQUIVALENT. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW, AND HERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT IN ON, BUT IF THE CITY WAS FACED WITH, IN ORDER TO KEEP THE, THE SERVICES UP, UH, TO THE LEVEL THAT THEY'RE AT NOW, WHICH, YOU KNOW, STILL NEEDS SOME WORK, ESPECIALLY ON STREETS, UM, AND IT WAS GONNA REQUIRE, UH, AN INCREASE IN AVALOR TAXES, YOU KNOW, THEN WHAT? HERE'S A HALF A CENT. SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT MAY BE IN OUR BUDGET, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME GIVE AND TAKE HERE BETWEEN OUR BUDGET AND THE, AND THE CITY BUDGET ON WHAT ARE THE REAL PRIORITIES HERE. YOU KNOW, IF IF WE'RE IN AS DIRE STRAITS AS WHAT, WHAT, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN TOLD, YOU KNOW, THEN THAT MAY REQUIRE SOME SEVERE BELT TIGHTENING. AND I'M NOT SAYING IT HAS TO BE PERMANENT, BUT YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE IN A BIND, YOU KNOW, THEN UH, WE GOTTA GET OUTTA THE BIND. I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE, UH, STICK WITH LAST YEAR'S, UH, BUDGET AND, UH, NOT MAKE AN INCREASE. WE DO WANNA SUPPORT THEM, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO TIGHTEN YOUR BELTS ACROSS THE BOARD AND ACT LIKE WE WERE ON THE CITY COUNCIL LAST YEAR. WHAT WOULD MAKE DO LAST YEAR, THE DIFFERENCE IN LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR IS THAT $25,000 WAS PAID OUT OF HOT, UM, FUND [00:35:01] LAST YEAR. UM, I AM STILL TRYING TO DO RESEARCH. 'CAUSE I WAS TOLD THAT THAT IS NOT A APPLICABLE FUND TO SPEND. I DISAGREE . SO I, WE CAN STILL LOOK INTO, UH, THE OTHER HALF OF IT BEING PAID WITH THE, WITH THE HOT FUND. I THINK THE ISSUE WITH HOT IS DOES IT REQUIRE AN OVERNIGHT STAY? THAT'S, THAT'S THE ARGUMENT. . YEAH. OKAY. AND THE $10,000 ON, UH, IS THAT A GRANT TO BUS BUSINESSES TO DECORATE? NO, THAT'S FOR CITY HALL, WHICH WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK TO CUT FOR SURE. WE'VE, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT CUTTING THAT AMOUNT ALREADY. UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF DECORATIONS, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE $10,000 WORTH. SO BOTH. OKAY. SO OUR PAYMENT TO FESTIVAL LIGHTS IS DIRECT OR DOES IT GO THROUGH THE CITY DIRECT AND THE $10,000 FOR CITY HALL DECORATIONS JUST GOES INTO THE GENERAL FUND FOR EXPENDITURE? YES. OKAY. WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU GUYS NEED FOR THAT? OR DID WE DO, HAVE WE LOOKED AT CHRISTMAS LIGHTS YET? QUESTION FOR GREG. OKAY. OKAY. YEAH, I DIDN'T HEAR. WE'RE NOT, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY QUOTES YET FOR CHRISTMAS LIGHTS. I JUST KNOW THAT WE ARE, WE'RE, WE PLAN ON CUTTING DOWN QUITE A BIT, UM, AS MINIMAL AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. EVEN LOOKING AT GETTING OUR OWN LINES AND DOING THEM THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS. WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THAT. UM, BUT THEY WILL BE VERY MINIMAL. YEAH. SO 2000, 2000 SHOULD PROBABLY BE ENOUGH. HE'S GONNA GET QUOTES FOR ALL FACILITIES. PROBABLY NOT, BUT, UM, FOR CITY HALL THAT SHOULD BE, I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD SUFFICE. AND, AND PE MOST OF THE OTHER FACILITIES HONESTLY DON'T CARE IF THEY HAVE LIGHTS. THEY'VE, THEY'VE VOICED THAT BEFORE. THEY WOULD RATHER NOT HAVE LIGHTS AND HAVE MORE IN THEIR BUDGET FOR PROPERTY MAINTENANCE. 'CAUSE IT'S THAT THE LINE ITEM IS BUILDING A PROPERTY MAINTENANCE IN THE, IN THE CITY BUDGET. AND THEY WOULD RATHER HAVE MORE TO SPEND ON AIR CONDITIONERS, . SO I WONDER WHY. SO IF YOU, IF YOU WANNA CUT IT TO 2000, THAT SHOULD, THAT WILL BE FINE. THE CITY CAN DEFINITELY PAY THE ANY DIFFERENCE. HOW MANY FACILITIES DO WE HAVE? WE HAVE FOUR. WELL, FIVE, IF YOU INCLUDE, UM, THE DEPOT AND THE GAZEBO, WE, WE TYPICALLY DECORATE THE DEPOT AND THE GAZEBO. SO THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION. YOU KNOW, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DECORATE THOSE FACILITIES STILL? BECAUSE PD, PUBLIC WORKS, ANIMAL SERVICES AND EMS DO NOT CARE ABOUT LIGHTS. THE, THE CITIZENS ARE THE ONES THAT WE DECORATE THE DEPOT AND THE GAZEBO FOR AND CITY HALL. SO I'LL LEAVE THAT TO FIRST DISCRETION. WELL, I'M HERE IS IF WE LEAVE IT AT 10, YOU'RE GONNA GO POSSIBLY AND GET SOME QUOTES FOR BUDGETARY QUOTES. HOPEFULLY IT'LL BE LESS THAN THAT. IF NOT, HOPEFULLY IF IT IS, THEN THAT WE SHOULD HAVE SEEN SAVINGS BUDGET ITEM WON'T GET USED. BUT YES SIR. I MEAN, AS OF RIGHT NOW, THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, THAT WAS ONLY A PORTION OF WHAT WE PAID FOR LIGHTS THAT DID NOT, WE PAID, I BELIEVE, I WANNA SAY 20, MORE THAN $20,000. UM, SO THAT'S TYPICALLY ONLY A PORTION AS IT STANDS. SO I KNOW LIGHTS ARE EXPENSIVE, , . SO YOU WANNA LEAVE IT AS IS, LET 'EM GET QUOTES AND THEN JUST SEE WHAT'S LEFT OVER AND YES. OKAY. ALRIGHT. DO YOU WANNA DO 35 AGAIN THIS YEAR? A NET? OKAY. FOR BOTH. I'M NOT, WHAT DID YOU SAY? YEAH, UH, 35 TOTAL FOR THE TWO. AND WE CAN SPLIT IT UP HOWEVER THEY FEEL BEST BETWEEN CITY AND, UH, OKAY. SO YOU, YOU CUT IT, TEST ALL LINES, YOU, YOU'RE SAYING CUT IT, CUT IT TO 35 BACK TO WHERE WE WERE. WE SO 25 AND 10 IS WHAT IT'D BE 25 AND 10 OR FIVE AND 35 OR OR 30. WHATEVER THAT SPLIT IS THAT Y'ALL FEEL IS BEST. IT WOULD BE 25 AND 10 IF WE'RE GOING WITH WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR. AND THEN YOU'RE STILL WORKING ON THE HOT TAX ISSUE? YES, MA'AM. OKIE DOKIE. NOW BLACK TIE TEXAS IS FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER. AND WHAT IS, UH, DMD DIDN'T THE BOARD COMMUNITY, DID WE ACTUALLY PAY FOR THAT OR DID THE DMD PAY FOR THAT LAST YEAR? UM, EDC PAID FOR EVERY, [00:40:01] UM, FOR CITY DMD AND EDC, UM, THE, I WAS GOING TO RECOMMEND ON THAT, IF YOU'RE STILL INTERESTED IN SPONSORING THAT TO MAYBE NOT DO THE TOP DOG SPONSORSHIP AND DO THE LOWER LEVEL IF YOU WOULD PREFER COMPLETELY UP TO IS THIS A, A GALA? YES. IT'S FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER. IT'S THEIR ANIMAL. IT'S THEIR ANNUAL GALA THAT THEY DO AT DICKENSON BAYOU RANCH, WHICH I, I THINK NOW WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO EXPRESS WHAT THAT DIRECTLY RELATES TO. SO WE HAVE A GENERATOR INSTALLED AT THE ANIMAL SHELTER RIGHT NOW THAT WAS PLUMBED AND ALMOST COMPLETELY ELECTRICAL ELECTRICALLY CONNECTED TODAY. BUT THE ELECTRICAL COMPANY DIDN'T HAVE THE FITTINGS THAT THEY NEEDED. SO COME TOMORROW, I'M HOPING, WELL, FRIDAY DEPENDS. UM, NEXT WEEK WE WILL HAVE A FULLY OPERATIONAL GENERATOR FOR AN ANIMAL SHELTER, WHICH UP UNTIL THIS POINT, I HAVEN'T UNDERSTOOD THIS, BUT IF WE ARE OUT OF POWER DURING A STORM, WE HAVE TO RELOCATE ALL OF THOSE ANIMALS. WE WILL NO LONGER HAVE, DO THAT AS A RESULT OF THE MONEY THAT WAS RAISED BY EVENTS LIKE THIS. I WOULD, I WOULD BE INCLINED TO SAY LET'S MAKE A DIRECT CONTRIBUTION RATHER THAN, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVE, HAVE THEM HAVE TO PAY THE OVERHEAD OF A MEAL AND WHATEVER ELSE THEY GOTTA PAY FOR, YOU KNOW? YEAH. 'CAUSE WE, WE HAVEN'T HISTORICALLY BEEN ABLE TO FILL OUR TABLES EITHER. AND IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD WHEN YOU HAVE AN EMPTY TABLE SITTING AT THE, THE FRONT OF THE ROOM. I BELIEVE LAST YEAR WAS AN EMPTY TABLE. THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT THAT MR. BLACK YEAR. WHEN DID SHE GO, SIR? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. WELL I WOULD, I WOULD AGREE WITH W THAT I WOULD SAY IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE IT IN THE BUDGET, MAKE IT A DIRECT, UH, CONTRIBUTION. NOT A, A DINNER TICKET FOR THE BOARD. I LIKE THAT. OKAY, NO PROBLEM. FOR BONUS, DO YOU WANNA KEEP IT 5,000? I'M, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. SURE. WHAT'S THE CITY DOING? WE'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT. IF, IF, IF WE HAD DECIDED LAST YEAR WE, WE HAD THESE CONVERSATION, WE DECIDED ONE OR ONE ENTITY WOULD DO IT IN. CORRECT. IF, IF WE DO ATTEND, IT'LL BE PAID FOR BY A DONATION FROM ONE OF OUR VENDORS. HE WAS ALWAYS PUBLIC MANAGEMENT. SOMEBODY WILL PAY FOR OUR TABLE. SO IF WE MAKE A DIRECT CONTRIBUTION, IS IT GONNA GO TO WHO? THE ANIMAL SHELTER DIRECTLY TO BUY YOU FRIENDS FOREVER. IS THE FRIENDS FOREVER? YEAH. 4 0 1, 5 0 1 C3 THAT DOES THAT. AND THEY ARE, UH, AN LLC OR WHAT WHAT THEY'RE 5 0 1 C3 THAT JUST SUPPORTS BIO ANIMAL SERVICES. AND WHO CONTROLS THE EXPENDITURE? WHO DOES WHAT CONTROLS THE, UM, COLIN COKER IS THE PRESIDENT. DO YOU HAVE A BOARD OF DIRECTORS? JENNA SIMPSON IS ON THE BOARD. UM, YES. OKAY. YOU WANNA LEAVE IT THE SAME GUYS? I MEAN WITH THAT DIRECT CONTRIBUTION. YEP. YEP. MAKES SENSE. I THINK YOUR DIRECT CONTRIBUTION GO GET 'EM MORE MONEY. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA PAY FOR THOSE MEALS AND ALL THAT STUFF. YEAH. AND THEN IF ANY OF US WANNA GO, WE CAN CONTRIBUTE MORE AND BUY MORE TICKETS. . WELL ANY ONE OF US COULD BUY A TABLE AND BITE EVERYBODY ELSE, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT. . YES, YOU CAN . UM, AND THE OTHER ONE, AM I LEWIS, WHAT IS THAT TEXAS, MEXICAN. THAT'S THE, UM, FOOD BANK OR IT IS ACTUALLY, AM I LEWIS FOOD OR MI LEWIS SERVICE CENTER? THEY DO MORE THAN JUST THE FOOD BANK. THEY HAVE SERVICES FOR, I THINK IS IT LIKE MENTAL HEALTH REFERRAL AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS? THEY DO ACTUALLY, PLUS FOOD BANK. THEY ACTUALLY, UH, WILL HELP WITH, UH, LIKE RENT, RENT AND ELECTRIC BILLS AND UTILITIES AND ALL THAT. OF COURSE, IT'S VERY LIMITED WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH THAT. BUT, UH, THEY DO OFFER THAT FOR DICKINSON RESIDENTS. YES. DICKINSON RESIDENCE, CORRECT. YEP. WELL THEY, THEY DO IT FOR, UH, WITHIN THE DICKINSON SCHOOL DISTRICT. OKAY. A LITTLE BEYOND THE, I'D SAY WE DO THE SAME THING WITH THAT ONE TOO. YEAH. AND JUST DO A DIRECT DONATION TO THE NONPROFIT AND NOT LEAVE AN EMPTY TABLE. YEAH. AND I WON'T MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT WE'RE GIVING, UH, PETS TWICE AS MUCH AS AS THE PEOPLE. [00:45:02] THAT'S A GOOD POINT. I'M NOT GONNA MAKE THAT COMMENT TOO LATE. . OKAY. SO DEMOLITION SERVICES ARE KEPT THE SAME AND AS HALF OF THE CITY'S BUDGET FOR DEMOLITION SERVICES, THAT IS AN AREA THAT YOU CAN INCREASE TO HELP THE CITY IF YOU WOULD LIKE, UM, OR WE CAN SEE AT THE END IF YOU WANNA CONTRIBUTE MORE, BUT THAT IS, UM, HALF OF WHAT THE CITY HAS BUDGETED FOR DEMOLITION. OKAY. TALKING ABOUT THE 70, THE 75, IS THAT WHAT YOU WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? DEMOLITION? YES. 75,000. YES, SIR. COMPLET. OKAY. SO THE CITY CONTRIBUTE 75, OH, SORRY, GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. SO THE CITY HAS 75,000 GOING INTO THAT FUND AND WE PUT 75,000 INTO THAT FUND. CORRECT. AS WELL. HOW MUCH WAS REALLY NEEDFUL FOR THIS LAST YEAR? IF WE'D HAVE HAD THE MONEY? UM, I BELIEVE WE STILL HAVE FIVE MORE UNITS TO DEMOLISH. UM, SO WE WILL PROBABLY BE SLIGHTLY UNDER BUDGET, BUT THAT IS ALSO, UM, DUE TO OUR BUDGET CONSTRAINTS RIGHT NOW, SO. OKAY. SO IT'S PROBABLY SAFE. THEY NEED THE ENTIRE $150,000. YEAH. SO THIS ONE'S GOOD TO KEEP IT LIKE IT IS. THEN WE, WE, WE MAY ACTUALLY EVEN NEED MORE BASED ON JUST ONE DEMO OF, OF A WELL-KNOWN HIGHLY, UM, ADVERTISED OR SOCIAL MEDIA PUSHED BUILDING ON HIGHWAY THREE. SO THESE BUILDINGS, I MEAN, WHEN WE WANT TO CLEAN UP, WE'VE DONE A BUNCH OF CLEANING UP AND THAT'S WHAT THE CITY, THE RESIDENTS WANT AND IT COSTS MONEY. I'M ALL FOR IT. AND THIS, IT, WHAT I'M HEARING FROM YOU, MATT, IS THAT THAT'S A CITY PRIORITY. SO IT IS ABSOLUTELY CITY PRIORITY. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND STAYING WITH THAT. ALSO, JUST ON THAT OTHER COMMENT, 'CAUSE I HEARD THOSE ARE SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED TO OUR CITIZENS THAT INCLUDE ANIMALS, NOT FOR THE ANIMALS THEMSELVES. JUST FOR THE, JUST FOR THE RECORD. SO MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER, JUST TO MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER ABOUT THAT. THOSE ARE SERVICES FOR OUR CITIZENS, NOT JUST ANIMALS. OUR CITIZENS THAT OWN ANIMALS OR WANT TO OWN ANIMALS. THAT'S CORRECT. OR FIND ANIMALS. THEY FIND THE ANIMALS OR CARE FOR ANIMALS. THAT'S RIGHT. DON CARE. AND THEN WE, WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO REHAB THEIR ANIMALS BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHO THEY BELONG TO AND RIGHT. THERE'S MEDICAL. THEY FIND THERE'S A DO CARE FOR A LOT OF 'EM UNTIL THEY'RE, IT'S A SERVICE THAT OUR CITIZENS ABSOLUTELY HIGHLY, UH, DESIRE. THEY'RE NOT STILL ACCEPTING. UH, THEY'RE NOT WHAT SIR ANIMALS THAT, THAT, UH, ARE DROPPED OFF FROM PARTS UNKNOWN OTHER THAN THE CITY OF, WE ARE DOING OUR ABSOLUTE BEST TO NOT DO THAT. YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT. DID WE REVISIT THE, UH, THE LINE, THE MD BOARD COMMUNITY? IS THAT RELATIONS 75? SHOULD WE GET THERE? THAT WE GET THERE? THAT WAS THE ONE WITH THE ANIMAL SHELTER AND THE FOOD BANK. YEAH, IT WAS AFTER CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS, BUT WE NEVER DISCUSSED IT. IS THAT THE SAME THING AS THE BAYOU OR IS THAT SOMETHING ELSE? IS THAT ANOTHER LINE ITEM? THAT'S THE TOTAL, THAT'S THE TOTAL OF THE BLACK TIE TEXAS AND ML LEWIS. MM-HMM . OKAY. YEAH. OH, YOU KNOW THE 7,500, THE DETAIL IS RIGHT UNDERNEATH THE LINE. YEAH. GOT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT MAKES SENSE. OKAY, SO WE'RE ONTO, UH, PROJECTS. UM, SO THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT HAD PUT IN A REQUEST FOR A MIDDLE BUILDING LAST YEAR. MM-HMM . OR THIS CURRENT YEAR THAT WE ARE IN. AND I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING, SO I JUST WENT AHEAD AND PUT IT INTO THE NEXT YEAR. WE CAN HAVE THEM COME AND SEE IF THEY, I, THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO COME BACK WITH A, OR SOME QUOTES AND STUFF FOR THAT BUILDING AND WE HAVEN'T SEEN 'EM YET. YEAH. SO WE PROBABLY NEED TO REACH OUT TO THEM AND GET AN UPDATED A NEED FROM THEM. YEAH. THE LAST, THE LAST I HEARD THEY'RE HAVING AN ISSUE WITH, UH, THE BUILDING REQUIREMENTS IN REGARD TO UH, UH, ELEVATION AND DETENTION . IMAGINE THAT IN DICKINSON. WHAT? AND SO, UH, THAT, THAT, UH, MONEY THEY'RE ASKING FOR FOR US MAY COVER THE, UH, DETENTION POND CONSTRUCTION. OH MY GOD. IF THEY BUILD IT. ALRIGHT. SO DO YOU WANT ME TO REACH OUT TO THEM AND HAVE THEM COME, UM, EXPRESS WHAT NEEDS THEY MAY HAVE FOR THIS UPCOMING BUDGET YEAR? WELL, YEAH, WE NEED TO FIND OUT IF THEY STILL WANT. RIGHT. WE WANT IT IN THE BUDGET. IF THEY'RE NOT GONNA BUILD IT THIS YEAR, WE DON'T NEED TO PUT IT IN THE BUDGET. RIGHT. WE COULD REALLOCATE THOSE FUNDS WHERE WE NEED, I'LL, I'LL TAKE CARE OF IT. I'LL REACH OUT TO THE CHIEF. THANK YOU MATT. YES MA'AM. AND THEN I LEFT 20,000 IS WHAT WE HAD BUDGETED LAST YEAR FOR DEPOT REPAIRS. I LEFT THAT BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN ONGOING NEED. SO AGAIN, COMPLETELY UP TO YOU. UM, [00:50:01] $20,000 DID NOT COVER THE NEED THIS YEAR. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA INCREASE THAT OR DECREASE IT. THAT'S COMPLETELY, HOPEFULLY WE DON'T HAVE TO INCREASE IT. THE BULK OF WHAT WE NEEDED. WHAT DO YOU THINK IS BASED ON, WELL THIS IS A CITY BUDGET REALLY, RIGHT? ? YEAH. WHAT DO YOU THINK, BASED ON WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE, DO YOU THINK WE'VE RECTIFIED MOST OF WHAT'S GOING ON? OR IS THERE STILL A LOT OF NEED? I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT HOW I COULD ASK FOR THAT EXTRA 11,000 AND THAT DELTA AND HOW WE COULD UTILIZE THAT ON SECURITY AND, UH, CAMERAS AND, AND SOME, SOME OTHER NEEDS THERE. SO THERE'S THAT MONEY. UM, SO I MAY NOT NEED ADDITIONAL IF WE, IF I COULD COME TO Y'ALL AND ASK YOU FOR THAT. WE DO WANT TO INCREASE THE SECURITY OVER THERE BECAUSE THERE IS CONSIDERATION HERE, HERE, HERE'S MY ISSUE. IF WE'RE GOING TO RENT THAT PLACE OUT, WE NEED THE WAY THEY INTEND ON IT. OR IF COUNCIL CHOOSES TO DO THAT, MY RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL WILL BE WE NEED TO INCREASE THE SECURITY OF SOME OF THE BUILDINGS. 'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY SOME BUILDINGS WILL BE OPEN, SOME WILL BE CLOSED DURING THOSE EVENTS. SO THERE IS GONNA BE AN EXPENDITURE THERE COST ASSOCIATED WITH INCREASING THE SECURITY. UM, I HAVE BEEN TOLD 20 TO 30 GRAND, BUT I HAVEN'T LOOKED INTO IT AND I THOUGHT THAT SEEMED HIGH TO ME BECAUSE I'VE GOT CAMERAS AT MY HOUSE IN A PRETTY GOOD SYSTEM FOR IT CONSIDERABLY LESS THAN THAT. SO I'LL LOOK INTO THAT A LITTLE DEEPER AND FIGURE OUT HOW THEY NEED TO COMMUNICATE AND WHAT WE REALLY NEED. I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE THAT HIGH. SO ANYWAYS, THAT $11,000 DELTA, THAT WAS THE OVERTURE EARLIER MAY COVER THAT. SO I KNOW I JUST TALKED AROUND AND DIDN'T REALLY GIVE YOU AN ANSWER. THE OVERAGE FROM IT'S TO DETERMINE REPAIRS THAT WERE JUST DONE IN THIS CYCLE. YEAH. IS WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT. YEAH. I WENT BACK INTO, UH, UNEXPECTED EXPENDITURES ACCOUNT, BUT UH, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO SAY. I WOULD TELL YOU THAT NEVER CAME OUT. NOW, NOW THAT I'M OVER OVERSEEING FACILITIES, EVERY FACILITY, NOT JUST THE DEPOT, BUT EVERY FACILITY HAS DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND IS GONNA COST US MORE MONEY EVERY YEAR. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM WE'VE GOT. OKAY. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY GO TO COUNCIL AND SAY, HERE'S A LIST OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE. AND THEN COUNCIL WOULD COME OR YOU WOULD COME TO US AND SAY, COUNCIL AGREES WE NEED TO DO THIS AND WE NEED TO BUDGET FOR IT. I I MEAN THAT'S NOT TYPICALLY HOW IT'S DONE, BUT WE ABSOLUTELY CAN DO IT THAT WAY. I LOVE THAT APPROACH. YEAH. I HAVE, I HAVE NOT HISTORICALLY BEEN A PART OF THIS, SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, BUT I AGREE AND I APPRECIATE THAT APPROACH THAT, THAT FEAR. YEAH, I, THE THING I'M, I'M TRYING TO AVOID IS THE BACK AND FORTH, YOU KNOW, FOR SURE. MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, IF, 'CAUSE YOU, YOU GUYS ARE GONNA HAVE THE BUDGET TALKS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, YOU'RE GONNA, YOU, YOU'RE, YOU ARE CHASING ARE WE DOING ANY JOINT WORKSHOPS BEFORE WE FINISH? WE DON'T HAVE ONE PLANNED, BUT YES. I MEAN WE DON'T HAVE A DATE SET YET, BUT I BELIEVE ONE OF THE LAST BUDGET WORKSHOPS, ONCE WE GET THROUGH THE DEPARTMENTS, WHICH WILL HOPEFULLY BE TUESDAY. OKAY. UM, AND WE GET INTO THE OTHER FUNDS 'CAUSE WE'RE STILL WORKING ON GENERAL FUND. WE WILL HAVE A JOINT WORKSHOP. WELL THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER IN THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, US TRYING TO HELP WITH THE CITY'S PRIORITIES. SO IF COUNCIL IS GOING THROUGH THEIR BUDGET PROCESS AND, AND UH, STAFF PRESENTS TO COUNCIL, THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO. IE SECURITY, WHATEVER IT IS, UM, SARAH KNOWS WHAT OUR BUDGET IS AS FAR AS DOLLARS, YOU KNOW, THEN IT WOULD, TO ME IT WOULD BE A LOT, UH, SMOOTHER IF ONCE IT'S DETERMINED THAT THAT IS A NEED AND A PRIORITY FOR THE CITY, THAT THEN YOU COME BACK TO, TO US AND WE EITHER PUT IT IN OUR BUDGET OR MODIFY OUR BUDGET TO ACCOMMODATE WHAT THE CITY'S DETERMINED TO BE A PRIORITY WITH RATHER THAN, I WAS TRYING TO GUESS AND YEAH, YOU, YOU'VE, YOU'VE GOT MY VOTE ON THAT. I AGREE WITH THAT AND I LIKE THAT THOUGHT. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I JUST PUT $335,000 BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW A HUNDRED PERCENT WHAT THOSE NEEDS ARE GONNA BE IDENTIFIED AS. WE HAVE A LOT OF NEEDS , SO IT'S NOT UNFORESEEN. IT'S, WELL GET, WHEN WE GET TO THAT, I WAS GONNA RECOMMEND THAT THE WHOLE AMOUNT BE PUT TOWARDS STREET PROJECTS AND THEN, UH, IF IT'S NOT, I THINK MR. ZEKE HAD A COMMENT TOO. IF IT'S NOT GONNA BE THAT, THEN WE MODIFY THE BUDGET . YEAH. I'M VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH PUTTING IN A SLUSH FUND. UH, I WOULD RATHER SEE THE CITY IDENTIFY A SPECIFIC NEED, DEFINE IT VERY CLEARLY, AND AN AMOUNT, AN ESTIMATED AMOUNT, AND THEN WE COULD PUT SOMETHING IN HERE THAT'S EXACTLY SPECIFIC WITH A SPECIFIC SCOPE AND THEN WHEN IT'S DELIVERED, YOU KNOW, THAT IT GOT DELIVERED [00:55:01] AND IT WAS COMPLETED. AND RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE THAT. LIKEWISE. SO THAT'S THE FEEDBACK TO THE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GET BACK WITH CHASE, EVERYBODY. I, I, I ABSOLUTELY UNDERSTAND AND I DON'T DISAGREE AND I'M SURE CHASE WOULD AGREE. I THINK WE HAVE A HISTORY OF TRYING TO ALIGN THE PRIORITIES AND THE EXPENDITURES BETWEEN THE THREE SEPARATE DEPARTMENTS OF THE CITY. IF YOU WANT TO CALL US THAT CITY, E-D-C-D-M-D. MM-HMM. SO THIS WILL BE A GOOD STEP TOWARDS TRYING TO CLEAN THAT UP A LITTLE BIT. MM-HMM . AND I LIKE THAT MR. ZEKE. ALL RIGHT. STREET PROJECTS. WAIT, FIRE DEPARTMENT, WE'RE GONNA GET WITH THEM. MATT'S GONNA HANDLE REACHING OUT. WHAT IS, UM, THE CURRENT PLAN FOR THE CURRENT BUDGET WITH THE STREET PROJECTS? HMM. WHAT DO YOU, IS THERE A PLAN WITH THE CURRENT BUDGET FOR STREET PROJECTS? WELL, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE WAS SOME, UH, I DON'T KNOW, REORG, IS THERE A REORGANIZATION GOING ON WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND, UH, AND HOW THE, THE PUBLIC WORKS IS FUNDED AND ALL OF THAT? IN THIS CURRENT, YES. IN, IN FISCAL YEAR 26, WE STARTED REALLOCATING THE FUNDS FUNDS, UM, FROM STREET MAINTENANCE FUND BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND. AND THIS YEAR WE DID COMPLETE THAT, WHICH IS ANOTHER REASON WHY WE HAVE AN $800,000 DEFICIT. UM, SO THE STREET MAINTENANCE FUND IS STRICTLY STREET MAINTENANCE. IT IS NOTHING. IT'S NO MOWING. IT IS, WE HAVE DIVIDED THE EMPLOYEES BETWEEN THE GENERAL FUND AND THE STREET MAINTENANCE FUND. WE HAVE COMPLETELY DIVIDED EVERYTHING THAT IS NOT STREET MAINTENANCE. WE TOOK STREET LIGHTING OUTTA STREET MAINTENANCE FUND, WHICH WAS OVER $200,000. UM, SO YES, STREET MAINTENANCE FUND IS JUST STREET MAINTENANCE IN THE 27 BUDGET. OKAY. SO, AND WE, WE DON'T HAVE, AND WHAT IS OUR, THIS 213,000 FOR STREET PROJECTS? WHAT IS THAT FOR? FOR US, MR. DIETZ WANTED A, A STREET PROJECT. HE WANTED TO FIGHT A STREET. RIGHT. THAT'S WHY I WAS WONDERING IF WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WITH THAT, THAT THAT WAS, UH, THE MONEY THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ALLOCATED WHEN WE SAT DOWN WITH THE BUDGET WORKSHEET. AND UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE STARTED OUT, I'VE STILL GOT MY NOTES FROM, I'D HAVE TO LOOK 'EM UP, BUT IT WAS, IT WAS, I THOUGHT IT WAS MORE THAN THAT. YEAH. YEAH. SO BASICALLY, UM, YOU VOTED ON TAKING THE SURPLUS AND PUTTING IT TO A, A STREET PROJECT, NOT TO STREET MAINTENANCE FUND, CORRECT. 'CAUSE OF THE CONCERNS. CORRECT. WE MADE ALLY CORRECT TO THAT IT, THAT IT BE USED TO BUILD YES, I REMEMBER THAT. TO BUILD STREETS. AND SO THE CITY HASN'T TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THAT. CORRECT. THE CITY HAS NOT SPENT THAT. NO, SIR. SO WHAT IS, SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ITEM CALL? WELL, STREET MAINTENANCE, WELL TRANSFER STREET MAINTENANCE. SO WE CAN'T, STREET MAINTENANCE CAN BE USED FOR FILLING POTHOLES. YEAH. SO IT'S VERY RESTRICTED STREETS WITH STREET MAINTENANCE. BUT WHAT IS STREET PROJECTS THEN? SO IT WAS A NEW ACCOUNT THAT WE CREATED LAST YEAR TO BUILD, TO BUILD WHAT? SO, SO BUILD NEW ROADS, SO, WELL WELL, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE NEW, BUT IT'S TO BUILD A, AN A ROAD, NOT SO TO REBUILD. YEAH. THAT'S STREET MAINTENANCE. STREET MAINTENANCE. YOU CAN REBUILD AN EXISTING STREET MAINTENANCE. IT'S CORRECT. BUT THE CONCERN WAS THAT WE WERE GONNA FILL POTHOLES AND NOT DO A STREET. THAT WAS THE CONCERN. HE WANTED TO, WE, THE BOARD WANTED TO SEPARATE THIS MOUNT FOR A STREET AND NOT FOR JUST STREET MAINTENANCE OF FILLING POTHOLES. AND THEN, SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THE CITY DIDN'T BUILD ANY STREETS AND THAT THAT'S CORRECT. WE DID NOT BUILD ANY STREETS. WE HAVE A LIST OF STREET PRIORITIES THAT WE WERE WAITING ON CITY COUNCIL TO 'CAUSE IT. IF WE HAD JUST GRABBED A STREET AND FIXED IT, THERE WOULD'VE WITHOUT COUNCIL'S APPROVAL. WELL, I, UH, I THINK THAT WE OUGHT TO LEAVE IT IN THERE AND ADD TO IT FROM OUR UNFORESEEN NEEDS BUDGET AND SEE IF WE CAN GET IT UP TO A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS FOR STREET PROJECTS SO THAT THAT CAN, TO HELP CANCEL, FULFILL THAT LIST, THAT PRIORITY LIST. I'M ASSUMING THAT'S FOR THIS UPCOMING BUDGET. OR EVEN BETTER YET, THERE'D BE A SPECIFIC LIST OF STREETS AND COST THAT THAT WOULD BE IDENTIFIED. WELL, THAT'LL BE PROVIDED TO COUNCIL. THAT'S NOT, NOT TO NECESSARILY TO DMD, BUT IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE YOU WANT TO ALLOCATE ENOUGH MONEY SO THAT YOU COULD, SO THAT COUNCIL CAN SAY, WE'VE GOT THIS ONE, THIS ONE, THIS ONE, THIS ONE. AND THEN DMD CAN FUND SPRUCE STREET OR LOBIT OR WHATEVER SPECIFIC, LIKE THE WAY YOU YES. SPRUCE . NO. OR OTHER STREETS. OR OTHER STREETS. I MEAN, AND THIS IS WHERE I, I WANNA STAY OUTTA THAT DEBATE. THAT'S COUNCIL'S DECISION. [01:00:01] WE'LL PROVIDE THE FACTS AND LET THEM MAKE THE DECISION. ONE QUESTION I HAVE, HOW MUCH BLAKE'S DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT STREETS ARE ON THIS LIST AND WHAT ONE PROJECT WOULD COST? IS THIS MONEY GOING TO EVEN PUT A DENT IN ONE PROJECT? I HAVE A MILLION. WELL, YES AND NO. UM, THE COSTS ARE, ARE CLIMBING THE COST OF ASPHALT'S GONE UP 30%. THE, WELL, IT'S PROBABLY 40% NOW. I'M LOOKING AT IT JUST IN THE LAST LIKE TWO MONTHS. IT'S A MILLION. IT'S OVER A MILLION DOLLARS A MILE TO CONCRETE A ROAD RIGHT NOW. AND SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT HALF OF THAT FOR, UM, FOR ASPHALT. SO, UM, IT ALSO, US ALSO HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE DO THAT, WE'RE CONTRACTING LABOR, UM, FOR A LOT OF IT BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE THE CREW TO FACILITATE A FULL MILL AND OVERLAY ROAD RIGHT NOW. UNFORTUNATELY, WE DON'T HAVE, WE HAVE TO RENT THE, THE EQUIPMENT. UM, SO YES AND NO. I DON'T THINK I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION, BUT I, I ANSWERED SOME OF IT. UM, I HAVE A LIST. I DO HAVE, UM, UM, SPECIFICS AND, AND STUFF THAT I CAN PRESENT TO COUNSEL AND LET THEM MAKE A DECISION ON PRIORITIZING. YEAH, I, I THINK OUR, I'VE DONE THE ACTUAL CALCULATIONS, MM-HMM . THAT'S, THAT'S MY BACKGROUND. AND YOU, YOU WERE RIGHT, YOU CAN DO A MILLION DOLLARS FOR A MILE FOR CONCRETE THAT WOULD GET TWO STREETS LOADED, BUT IN SPRUCE AND THAT'S ONLY HALF OF THE OVERALL BUDGET FOR THE YEAR, OR IT'S LESS THAN HALF OF THE OVERALL BUDGET FOR STREET MAINTENANCE. WELL, AND WE COULD ADD EVEN MORE IN RIGHT HERE. YEAH. I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT 200. WHAT, WHAT ARE WE HAVE IN THERE NOW? LEMME PUT MY GLASSES BACK ON. WELL, YOU ONLY HAD THE TWO 50 AGAIN THEN. MY QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE, UM, REMIND ME AGAIN WHAT THE APPREHENSION WAS JUST TO TRANSFER THIS FUNNY, THIS MONEY TO STREET, THIS STREET MAINTENANCE BUDGET BE BECAUSE WE WANTED TO HAVE MORE CONTROL APPREHENSION WAS THAT IT WOULD BE USED FOR, UH, UH, MAINTENANCE AND OVERHEAD SALARIES AND FILLING POTHOLES AND ALL THAT. AND IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THAT LINE ITEM CAN BE USED FOR THAT STUFF. PARDON ME? IT CAN STILL BE USED FOR POTHOLES. THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE MAIN DISCUSSION WAS POTHOLE, WANT POTHOLES TO BE. GOT IT. WE WANTED IT TO BE A FULL GOT IT. OKAY. THAT MAKES SENSE THEN. GOT IT. THANKS. OKAY. AND WHERE OR WHO DETERMINES WHICH STREETS WE WERE, WE'RE NAMING WE DREW OUT A LITTLE BIT AND COUNCIL. RIGHT. AND SO HOW MANY, AND SO I THINK THAT, AND WHEN WILL THAT BE DONE AND ALL THESE QUESTIONS THAT RIGHT. ARE GENERATED. UM, AND WE CAN'T RESOLVE THAT HERE. NO. OKAY. SO I THINK, I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING AND TRYING TO GET THIS, WELL, WELL MACHINE WITH THE THREE TEAM DICKINSON, RIGHT? RIGHT. IS WE'RE SAYING WE'RE, WE'RE PUTTING MONEY ASIDE NOW CITY TEAM DICKINSON, WHAT ARE YOUR PRIORITIES? BRING THEM TO US. WE HAVE SOME FUNDS TO HELP. RIGHT. LET'S START MOVING ON SOME OF THESE THINGS AND, AND, AND EXACTLY. WE'RE TRYING TO INCENTIVIZE THEM WITH MONEY. HERE'S MONEY IT WORKS. SOMETIMES I LIKE WHERE YOU THINK ALSO BEFORE WE, BEFORE WE UTILIZE ALL OF OUR, UM, OUR RESERVE THERE. YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR WE HELPED OUT A LITTLE BIT WITH THE RIGHT OF WAY MOWING ALSO. WE DID, WE'D LIKE TO TAKE ANOTHER LITTLE CHUNK OUT OF OUR RESERVE AND, AND UP UP THAT AMOUNT FOR THIS COMING YEAR. ALSO, CHASE HAS TOLD ME IT'S NEVER BE ENOUGH MONEY TO, AND THERE'S A LOT OF TALL GRASS ALL AROUND TOWN. JUST AS LONG AS, AS MUCH AS THERE IS BAD STREETS. IS IT OUR PROPERTY THAT HAS TALL GRASS OR IS IT PRIVATE PROPERTY? YES. IT'S BOTH. ALL ABOVE. IT'S BOTH. YES MA'AM. AND SO THAT'S A, THAT, THAT'S A CHALLENGE. WE ARE MOWING PROPERTIES THAT, THAT WE LEGALLY AREN'T REQUIRED TO MOW, BUT, BUT IT'S, IT BLOCKS THE VISION OF OUR CITIZENS. TEX DOT HAS AN A ONCE A YEAR ANNUAL MOWING SCHEDULE OR SOMETHING RIDICULOUS. SO YES, THERE'S SOME CHALLENGES WITH HOLDING THE FOLKS THAT ARE ACCOUNTABLE. I'VE BEEN FIGHTING WITH CENTER POINT OVER A DITCH LINE BEHIND ZIEGLER'S TO GET THAT CLEANED UP. I FINALLY GOT IT CLEANED UP. IF ANYONE'S FROM CENTER POINT AND LISTENING, THANK YOU. SO THAT WE WON'T FLOOD ZIEGLER'S WITH A HEAVY RAIN BECAUSE THE DRAINAGE BEHIND THAT LOCATION WAS NOT WORKING PROPERLY BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T MAINTEN THERE RIGHT OF AWAY. SO YES, . UM, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT MR. BLACK SHARE. I DIDN'T SEE THAT. THIS NEXT BOAT. YES, WE COULD ABSOLUTELY USE MORE MONEY, UM, FOR THAT. DO WE HAVE A BUDGET FOR RIGHT OF AWAY MAINTENANCE? YEAH. IT'S 60,000. LEMME SAY IT A DIFFERENT WAY. DO WE HAVE AN ESTIMATED COST FOR A YEAR'S WORTH [01:05:01] OF RIGHT OF AWAY MAINTENANCE? WE DO NOT. WE DO NOT. THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE THAT. THEY COULD PROBABLY WORK SOMETHING UP, BUT I MEAN, WE KNOW HOW MUCH ACREAGE IT IS AND WE COULD TURN IT INTO AN ESTIMATED COST BASED ON HIRING MOWING COMPANIES THAT DO MOWING BY ACREAGES FROM, FROM THE LAST CONVERSATION. THAT MY GOAL WITH CHASE, WE'RE NOT GONNA GET THERE. YEAH. I, UH, WE'RE NOT GONNA GET THERE. IT, IT, IT IS A GOAL MINE, BUT I DON'T KNOW, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW CLOSE WE ARE TO THAT. I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO FIGURE THAT OUT AND CONTRACT IT AND PAY AND HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE THAT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. AND THAT MAY BE A LEGITIMATE CONVERSATION THAT COMES WITH COUNSEL WITH OUR BUDGET. SHOULD THERE BE DISCUSSION ON STAFFING AND THE AL AND THE ALLOCATION OR REALLOCATION OF STAFFINGS? I SURE HOPE IT DOESN'T COME TO HUFFINGTON LOSE PERSONNEL. I NEED PERSONNEL. BUT IF YOU CUT MY PERSONNEL, I'M GONNA HAVE TO TELL YOU THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GONNA LOSE. SO THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO CONTRACT OUT NOW. SO YEAH. WE'RE BACK AGAIN TO WEIGHING, UH, YES SIR. RIGHT? YES SIR. UNDERSTOOD. IT'S A SYSTEMATIC SITUATION THAT WE NEED TO CLEAR THAT WE NEED TO CLEAN UP CITY SERVICE THE WORKING. YEAH. YEAH. TODAY IS A WORK IN PROGRESS. I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. EVERY ONE OF THESE CAN, CAN WE SAY THAT, UH, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND PUT $300,000 ON STREET PROJECTS THAT LEAVES 35 FOR UNFORESEEN NEEDS. ACTUALLY IT DOESN'T BECAUSE YOU CUT $200,000 FROM SALES TAX. SO WE NEED TO CUT EXPENSES. I'M SORRY, WHAT? WE CUT $200,000 FROM REVENUE. MM-HMM . TWO. SO HAS TO COME OUTTA SOMEWHERE ELSE OF EXPENSES. SO IT'S ONLY LEAVING 1 35 AND WE'VE ONLY CUT 25. SO THIS OVERAGE IS ONLY GONNA BE WHAT, 1 35? OR IS IT LESS THAN THAT? OH YEAH, IT WOULD BE AN EVEN 200,000. WE CUT 25 FROM THE DECORATIONS, SO THAT'S RIGHT. WE'RE AT 1 75 MINUS 3 35. SO ONE 60. WHAT DID WE END UP WITH? WE CURRENTLY HAVE ONE 60 AND UNFORESEEN NEEDS NOW AS WE CUT $200,000 FROM SALES TAX AND WE CUT $25,000 FROM THE, UM, HOLIDAY DECORATIONS. SO WE HAVE $175,000 LESS THAT IN, UM, I'M SORRY, IN UNFORESEEN NEEDS. SO YOU ADDED THE SUBTRACT 1 75 FROM 3 35, HIT ONE 60. WE'RE NOT SUBTRACTING MM-HMM . MM-HMM . BECAUSE WE, WE, WE PUT THE BUDGET FROM 3 32 TO 3 MILLION. YEAH, YEAH. YEAH. SO YOU HAVE TO TAKE THAT 200,000 AND THEN YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE, BUT IF WE CUT, THEN IF WE CUT, IF WE CUT THE LIGHTS, 25,000 THAT GOES BACK INTO UN UH, UNBUDGETED FUNDS, RIGHT? NO. 'CAUSE THE 25 CAME FROM HOT, HOT TAX. THE OTHER 25, WE ONLY GAVE 25 LAST YEAR. THE OTHER 25 CAME FROM HOT TAX. OKAY. SO WE'VE CUT $25,000 FROM THE EXPENDITURES, BUT WE CUT 200,000 FROM REVENUE. THAT'S $175,000 THAT WE'RE TAKING OUT OF UNFORESEEN NEEDS, WHICH LEAVES US AT 160 THAT WE'RE TRYING TO LOCATE WHAT THOSE NEEDS ARE. AND I'M HEARING MOWING THE CITY'S CURRENT BUDGET IS $60,000 AND, UM, DMDS CONTRIBUTING 40, I BELIEVE. IS THAT CORRECT? I THINK THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBER FROM LAST YEAR THAT WE WERE COMMITTING. YEP. AND I'M OKAY. SO IF YOU WOULD, YOU KNOW, ONE SECOND. OKAY. EXPLAIN TO ME. WE HAD FOR DECLARATIONS, THAT'S WHAT, 35, THAT'S WHAT SHE WANTED FOR THAT'S OUR YEAR TO DATE ACTIVITY. CORRECT. BUT THAT'S WHAT, WHAT THEY HAD IN THERE FOR, RIGHT. 'CAUSE THEY WERE GONNA UP AND THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO USE HOT TAX RIGHT NOW IS WHAT THEY'RE THEY'RE ARGUING THAT SHE CAN'T USE HOT TAX. SO ALL OF THE 50,000 WAS GONNA COME OUT OF OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR. SO WE CUT 'EM TO 25,000. [01:10:01] CORRECT. AND SO THEN YOU TAKE THAT 2000 AND SUBTRACT THE 25, THAT'S 175 THAT WE GOTTA SUBTRACT FROM THE 3 35 AND THAT LEAVES YOU WITH ONE 60. IF THIS WAS A LIVE SPREADSHEET, WE COULD ACTUALLY SEE IT MORE CLEARLY, BUT IT'S NOT HAVING TO DO A LOT IN OUR HEADS . OKAY. IF WE, IF WE'RE USING THIS ONE 60 NUMBER AS OUR CURRENT RESERVE, IT'S OUR CURRENT RESERVE FRIENDS FOR SEEING NEEDS. YEP. I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT Y'ALL THINK ABOUT TAKING 20 OF THAT OVER TO THE UH, RIGHT OF WAY MOWING. I CAN SUPPORT THAT. IT'S UM, IT'S VERY OBVIOUS AROUND THE CITY. WE DO NEED TO BE EFFICIENT AT IT, BUT UH, WE, UH, OBVIOUSLY AREN'T KEEPING UP WITH IT. I'D AGREE WITH THAT. I WOULD TAKE THE RIGHT AWAY. MINE CITY, YOU RATHER HAVE NOT SIRI, CITY, NOT SIRI. I GOT IT ON AIRPLANE MODE TOO. , UH, YES. YES SIR. WE'LL, WE WOULD ABSOLUTELY UTILIZE THAT EXTRA 20,000. YOU RATHER HAVE IT THERE THAN UH, STREET PROJECTS. I THINK SO. UM, RIGHT NOW I WOULD, NOW, NEXT YEAR WHEN WE SIT DOWN, PERHAPS NO , PERHAPS WE CAN BE MORE EFFICIENT WITH THAT MONEY. UM, AND THAT'S THE GOAL. OKAY. WE'RE TAKE IT, IT'S ON PAGE THREE OF FIVE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PAGE. AND I DID HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE, UH, MOWING BUDGET. THE, DO WE HAVE A, A SEPARATE LINE ITEM IN THE CITY BUDGET THAT THE MOWING IS BEING MANAGED AGAINST SO THAT WE CAN SEE WHAT THAT MOWING COST ENDED UP BEING FOR THIS YEAR AND LAST YEAR AND THE YEAR BEFORE THAT? YES, SIR. BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT THE CITY BUDGET, I COULDN'T FIND MOWING IN IT, UH, AS A SEPARATE LINE ITEM. CLEARLY. SO ARE WE TALKING ABOUT FORCE MOWING OR RIGHT OF WAY MOWING? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT FORCE MOWING OR RIGHT OF WAY MOWING. RIGHT OF WAY MOWING. OKAY. RIGHT OF WAY. MOWING IS DONE BY, UM, STREET MAINTENANCE. THAT'S STRAIGHT MAINTENANCE. SO BASICALLY YOU'LL LOOK AT ENTIRE STREET PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT OR WHAT DO WE CALL IT NOW? STREETS AND DRAINAGE DEPARTMENT, UM, WHICH IS DEPARTMENT 12. AND THAT IS WHAT THAT IS FOR. AND WHAT'S THE, AND WHAT YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND IS THE NUMBER FOR THIS CURRENT YEAR IS BECAUSE THAT'S ALL THERE WAS. SO THERE WAS MOWING THAT DIDN'T GET DONE ALL OVER THE PLACE. RIGHT. AND WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT, THE REASON I BRING IT UP IS THAT IF WE AREN'T TRACKING IT AS A SEPARATE COST BY ITSELF, JUST LIKE IT IS OUT OF OUR BUDGET, IF YOU TRANSFER IT INTO THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU ACTUALLY SPENT ON MOWING WHEN YOU GET THROUGH. IF WE DON'T HAVE A WAY TO TRACK IT, WE COULD, WE COULD PUT 90,000 IN THERE AND WE WOULDN'T KNOW WHETHER WE'RE ACTUALLY INCREASING. THE AMOUNT OF MOWING THAT'S ACTUALLY GETTING DONE IS ACTUALLY BEEN SPENT ON MOWING. UH, KIND OF THE SAME WITH THE POT. SORRY. SO WHEN, WHEN WE MADE OUR LINE ITEM ABOUT THE STREETS, IT WAS SPECIFIC WHEN IT WENT, WHEN IT WOULD HAVE WENT FROM US TO THEM. YES. AND THIS CAN BE ALSO CAN IT YEAH, BUT THEY DON'T TRACK IT. THAT'S THE THING. WELL, THAT, THAT THAT'S NOT TRUE. I I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, UM, YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO SEE THAT TRACKING, SO IT'S TRACKED BASED OFF OF THE, THE JOB WORK REQUEST AND THE COST PER HOUR, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. IT'S JUST NOT BROKE DOWN WHERE YOU CAN SEE IT LIKE THAT IN THE BUDGET. LIKE YOU COULD GO TO SARAH AND SEE MORE DETAILED. NO, BECAUSE WE, IT'S NOT, WE, IT'S BECAUSE IT'S DONE BY, INTERNALLY BY OUR PUBLIC WORK STAFF. SO THAT'S DONE THROUGH WORK ORDERS INSTEAD OF AN INVOICE FROM A VENDOR. SO THEY RIGHT. SO YOU DON'T HAVE A DEDICATED MOWING CREW THAT THAT'S ALL THEY DO. YES, WE DO. WE DO. SO DOES THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT KEEP A RECORDS OF LIKE, ALL OF THAT? SO THEN DON COULD GO TO THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND SAY, HEY, SHOW ME WHAT YOU SPENT LAST YEAR AND JUST MOWING A LOAN AND SOMEBODY COULD TELL HIM WHAT THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT WE DO. I WOULD ASK MR. ZEKE TO NOT GO TO MY PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT FOR THAT REQUEST , BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU MEANT. THEY WOULD SAY, A CITIZEN JUST SHOWED UP AND IS WANTING THIS. BUT I WOULD ABSOLUTELY HELP YOU FUND THAT INFORMATION. YES, SIR. UM, BUT YES, WE CAN. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF CRUNCHING THOSE NUMBERS. NOW IF YOU ASK ME FOR THOSE NUMBERS FROM LAST YEAR, I'M GONNA TELL YOU THAT WE DON'T HAVE THOSE AND UM, AND WE, AND WE DON'T HAVE AN EMPLOYEE, UM, NO LONGER THAT, THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE TAKING CARE OF THAT. [01:15:01] SO UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS FROM LAST YEAR, BUT WE HAVE GONE BACK TO AS FAR AS WE COULD AND CORRECTED THAT AND WE ARE KEEPING TRACK OF THAT NOW. OKAY. SO ARE YOU LOOKING AT TOTAL COST OF MOWING LIKE EQUIPMENT? WELL, WE WERE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO INCREASE THEIR COST, BUT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE CURRENT COST IS. THE CURRENT COST OF THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH THEIR PRIMARY JOB IS MOWING. UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY DO ANYTHING BESIDES MOWING IS $700,000. THAT IS THEIR CURRENT BUDGET. AND, AND ABOUT SIX, UH, MAYBE FOUR WEEKS AGO WE SPLIT A CREW OF FOUR TO TWO CREWS OF TWO. AND IT MAY SOUND LIKE, OKAY, WELL, SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE DOING THE SAME AMOUNT OF WORK. IT SEEMS AS OF RIGHT NOW THAT WE MAY ACTUALLY BE MORE EFFICIENT THAT WAY BECAUSE THERE'S NOT DOWNTIME ON, ON TWO GUYS WAITING ON THE OTHER TWO GUYS TO FINISH AND THEN THEY HOP IN A TRAILER AND GO. SO WE'VE SPLIT THAT CREW, UH, INTO FOUR. SO WE'RE TRYING SOME OPERATIONAL THINGS TO SEE IF WE CAN INCREASE OUR, UH, PRODUCTIVITY. AND IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING THUS FAR. I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME. I WASN'T PREPARED TO DO THAT SURE. AT THIS PARTICULAR EVENT. BUT I, I DO HAVE AN ABILITY TO TRACK THE PER HOUR COST, THE UNIT COSTS OF MOWING, WHICH I THINK IS WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR, MR. YEAH, YEAH. BECAUSE IF IT 700,000 FOR THE YEAR AND WE'RE ONLY GONNA CONTRIBUTE AN EXTRA 40,000, EVEN 2020 AN EXTRA 2020, AN EXTRA 20 , IT'S ONLY 60,000 OUT OF THE, THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE DRAINAGE. 700,000 DRAINAGE WORK, CLEANING DITCHES, CULVERTS. YES SIR. IT DOES. SO IT'S MORE THAN JUST MOWING, RIGHT? THAT'S 700,000? NO, THE 700, WELL THE, THE $700,000 IS JUST WHAT WE HAVE BUDGETED FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT IN THE GENERAL FUND. AND THAT INCLUDES OVERHEAD. SO IT INCLUDES THE COMMUNICATIONS, IT INCLUDES THE PUBLIC WORKS, UM, BUILDING AND PROPERTY MAINTENANCE. SO I THINK MAYBE TO GET THE NUMBER THAT MR. ZEKE'S ASKING FOR, WE WILL NEED TO PULL WORK ORDERS AND CRUNCH THE NUMBERS. 'CAUSE THERE ARE OVERHEAD COSTS IN THERE, UM, THAT DON'T BELONG IN THE STREET MAINTENANCE FUND. SO, AND ALSO TO GET THE SPEND, TO GET THE SPEND THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO BE ABLE TO TRACK THAT 60,000 TO NOT GO ON THOSE OTHER THINGS. SO THE 60,000 GOES TOWARDS FORCED MOWING, WHICH IS WHEN WE HIRE AN OUTSIDE COMPANY AND THEY GO MOW AND THEY GO MOW. SO THAT'S WHAT THE 60,000 IS FOR. SO THAT'S, I'M SORRY, YOU'RE CURRENTLY CONTRIBUTING 40, BUT THE CITY BUDGET IS 60, SO THAT'S PEOPLE IN, SO IF YOU WANNA DO THE, YOU KNOW, AN EXTRA 20 TOWARDS FORCED MOWING, THAT'S EASY TO TRACK. THAT'S, THAT'S THE LINE ITEM WHERE WE PAY A COMPANY TO COME DO RIGHT OF WAY. MOWING IS INTERNAL AND IT'S A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT TO GIVE YOU AN OVER ALL COSTS. BUT YOU ON FORCE MOWING, YOU TAKE A LIEN OUT, DO YOU NOT? THAT'S CORRECT. AND, AND WE'RE ACTUALLY IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO WORK OUT SOMETHING AND I'LL DEFER TO, UH, TO MR. DON ON EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE STARTING A PROCESS TO PERHAPS START GETTING SOME OF THAT MONEY BACK. YEAH, I WAS JUST WONDERING, UH, MAKE SURE WE TRACK THAT. UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW GOOD, BUT YES, THERE'S DEFINITELY RECORDS WE'RE GOOD AT. IS THERE ANY, IS THERE ANY QUESTION ABOUT THE FORCED MOWING VERSUS RIGHT OF WAY MOWING LEFT? NO, I THINK WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY ALSO IS THAT, UH, THE, THE RIGHT OF WAY MOWING CAN ALSO PULL MAINTENANCE ON THE BUILDING AND THINGS LIKE PAY, PAY FOR BUILDING MAINTENANCE, MAYBE FOR PUBLIC WORKS AND, AND WE WANT TO GET GRASS MOWED WITH OUR MONEY. YEAH, UNDERSTOOD. I, I THINK YOU'RE CORRECT. YEAH. SO MAYBE WE JUST SHOULD CHANGE OUR LINE ITEM TITLE TO FORCE MOWING RATHER THAN RIGHT AWAY MOWING. THAT'S COMPLETELY UP TO YOU. I DON'T KNOW. WELL, IT, IT GOT PUT IN THERE SOMEHOW AS WELL. I DON'T, IT'S IT'S ALWAYS BEEN LABELED RIGHT OF WAY MOWING. UM, BUT IT'S COMPLETELY UP TO YOU. THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN A PART OF THE QUARTERLY TRANSFER THAT YOU GUYS APPROVE. UM, SO WE CAN KEEP IT FOR FORCE MOWING OR PUT IT TOWARDS RIGHT OF WAY MOWING. IT'S FORCE MOWING IN OUR, IN OUR, UH, CITY BUDGET OR TOWARDS RIGHT OF MOWEN. CURRENTLY THE TRI TRANSFER IS GOING INTO THE CITY'S GENERAL BUDGET. CORRECT. AND USED BY THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. UM, WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND, YES. OKAY. SO IT'S NOT, DOESN'T END UP BEING DEDICATED ONLY TO RIGHT AWAY MOWING. NO, BUT I MEAN, AND IT'S CERTAINLY NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO BE PAYING FOR ALL THE OVERHEAD EITHER. SO UNLESS THE, UNLESS THE DMD IS UM, GONNA TRANSFER $700,000, WE CAN DEDICATE THAT, WE CAN SAFELY SAY THAT THAT MONEY IS BEING SPENT ON RIGHT AWAY. MOW I PLAN ON DOING THAT IN A FEW YEARS FROM NOW. GOOD . SO, OKAY, SO YOU'RE RECOMMENDING, UH, 5,000 [01:20:02] A QUARTER, YOU SAID, SAID SOMETHING ABOUT 20,000, IS THAT FOR A YEAR IT'D BE INCREASING OUR ANNUAL GIFT FROM 40,000 ANNUALLY TO 60,000 ANNUALLY. RIGHT. BUT IT'S A QUARTERLY PAYMENT, SO YEAH. 5,000 A QUARTER AND THAT IS, IT WILL BE A PART OF THE UNFORESEEN THEY'RE DONE. WELL, I'M, I'M THINKING I WOULD LOVE TO, IF WE COULD TRACK IT, I JUST, I FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE THAT WE, WE JUST PUT IT INTO THE GENERAL BUDGET AND IT'S GONNA GET SPENT ON WHATEVER. UM, IF IT'S, IF IT'S NOT SHOWN AS A SEPARATE LINE ITEM, I CAN SHOW YOU $60,000 WORTH OF MOWING THAT'S BEEN DONE. I CAN, I CAN PULL THAT FROM THE SYSTEM. IT'S, IT'S NOT A PROBLEM TO FIND $60,000 WORTH OF MOWING THAT'S BEEN DONE. IT'S A PROBLEM TO FIND 700,000, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY QUANTIFY $60,000 WORTH OF WIDE ARRAY MOWING. I I THINK WE CAN TELL YOU WHAT $60,000 OF MOWINGS GONNA GET DONE AND MAYBE A LITTLE, TAKE US A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT LOTS YEAH. AND EXACTLY WHAT STREET AND EXACTLY WHAT CREW. BUT THAT COULD BE DONE TOO IF IT WAS NECESSARY. BUT THAT WOULD TAKE SOME TIME. WE DON'T HAVE A SYSTEM TO JUST POP THOSE NUMBERS OUT. BUT WE DO HAVE WORK ORDERS AND WE DO HAVE UNIT HOURS. OKAY. I THINK, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING OFF TRACK HERE. IS IT, I THINK THE CITY, THE CITY STAFF MANAGES THIS STUFF, YOU KNOW, AND THEY'RE SETTING THE PRIORITIES FOR US AND WE'RE ALLOCATING MONEY TO MEET, MEET THE CITY PRIORITIES. SO I, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS IF WE THINK MORE MONEY OUGHT TO BE SPENT ON RIGHT OF WAY MOWING OR, OR ON, UH, FORCE MOWING AND WE WANT TO INCREASE OUR BUDGET AND MATT SAID THAT COULD BE A OR IS A PRIORITY, THEN LET'S DO IT. AND IT'S UP TO THEM TO MANAGE IT. MM-HMM . YEAH. AND I MEAN, I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY WITH WHAT YOU SAID. , WE WE'RE TRYING TO, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WE'RE TRYING TO BE GOVERNANCE, WE WE'RE TRYING TO BE VERY PRECISE MANAGEMENT . YES. WE'RE BEING VERY PRECISE. DON IS, HE'S DOING HIS DUE DILIGENCE AS A BRAND NEW BOARD MEMBER AS WELL, TOOS. SO WE APPRECIATE HIS THOROUGHNESS. THAT HAS A SKILLSET TO DO THAT. YES. YES, HE DOES. WE APPRECIATE THAT. HE DOES. YES. WE APPRECIATE THAT HUNDRED PERCENT. THIS BOARD. UH, I THINK YOU, YOU KNOW, READ WHAT OUR CHARGE WAS EARLIER AND WE ARE HERE TO BE A SOURCE OF SUPPORT YEP. FOR THE CITY. AND I THINK IT WOULD BE REASONABLE TO, UH, ALLOW, UH, MATT AND CITY STAFF TO COME BACK TO US WITH SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN KICKING AROUND FOR THE PAST HALF HOUR. YEP. UM, AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO, UH, UH, MAKE A CLEAN DECISION. AND, AND, AND AGAIN, APPRECIATING WHAT MR. ZEKE IS, UH, POINTING OUT. THERE'S, THERE'S SOME CONCERNS FROM A, UH, ACCOUNTING, UH, POSITION THAT WE WANNA BE CAREFUL ABOUT. UH, I AGREE WITH THAT. BUT WE, WE WON'T SOLVE IT HERE IN THIS, THIS SETTING. AGREED. SO I, I WOULD, UH, ASK THAT WE MOVE ON AND MM-HMM . POINT OUT THE, UH, THE MOST SIGNIFICANT POINTS ABOUT EACH OF THESE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS AND, UH, SEE WHAT WE CAN RESOLVE. SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. OKAY. LOCAL MEETINGS. DMD BOARD, THAT WAS, UM, FOR, WE, YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET, MR. ZEKE, BUT USUALLY STAFF IS HERE LATE, UM, AND PREPARING THE MEETING AND STUFF. SO THEY USUALLY PURCHASE A DINNER THAT'S THEN IN THE BACK ROOM WHEN WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. YOU'LL SEE THAT BACK THERE. AND THAT'S WHAT THAT ITEM LINE ITEM IS FOR WHERE YOU, THE CITY DECIDED TO STOP DOING THAT, IF I UNDERSTAND. SAY AGAIN. UH, THIS LAST MEETING, THE CITY DECIDED TO STOP DOING THAT. DID THEY? OKAY. YEAH. WE'RE, WE'RE CANCELING DINNERS ALL AROUND, UM, AFTER THE BUDGET WORKSHOPS. 'CAUSE THOSE ARE KIND OF GRUELING. RIGHT? RIGHT. YES. NO, NO MORE DINNER BESIDES THE CITY BUDGET WORKSHOPS. NO MORE CHRISTMAS WE'RE CANCELING CHRISTMAS AND CANCELING DINNERS WE'RE CANCELING CHRISTMAS, WE CANCELED ANYTHING EMPLOYEE RELATED IN THE CITY BUDGET. SO BIRTHDAY WE'RE GOING THE FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS FOR CHRISTMAS THIS YEAR, , AND IT'S NOT A BAD IDEA. . ALL RIGHT. EVERYBODY'S FAVORITE LINE ITEM. FIXED ROUTE BUS SERVICE. . SO THAT GIVES US 1500 INTO THE, UM, SO ADD 1500 TO YOUR 160. OKAY. SO IT'S A HUNDRED AND SIXTY ONE FIVE BECAUSE WE TAKE THE 1500 OUT OF LOCAL MEETING. WE DIDN'T BUDGET [01:25:01] FOR THAT. DD BOARD THAT'S NOT BUDGETED FOR. OH, IT'S, WE ALREADY TOOK THAT OUT. OH, OKAY. GOT IT. THANK YOU. DIDN'T WE TAKE, I MISSED THAT OUT. THAT HUNDRED 60,000. YOU'RE RIGHT. SO IT'S ONE 40. THANK YOU. SO WHY DON'T WE TAKE THAT ONE 40 AND, UH, BUDGET IT. LET'S WAIT UNTIL WE GET TO THE END AND SEE IF THERE'S NOT ANYTHING ELSE THAT POPS UP. ONCE YOU GET TO THE TRANSFER TO THE VER FUND. THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF SAVINGS THERE. OKAY. OKAY. LIKE, SO YOUR FAVORITE TOPIC. UM, SO WHO HAS THE CONTRACT ON BUS SERVICE? THE CITY? YES, I BELIEVE SO. I BELIEVE IT IS THE CITY. YEAH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GULF COAST TRANSIT DISTRICT. YES, SIR. SO THE, THE FUNDS THAT COME FROM DMD IS AT THE REQUEST OF THE CITY AND IT'S TRANSFERRED INTO THE GENERAL FUND AND THEN THE CITY MAKES THE PAYMENT. I BELIEVE IT COMES DIRECTLY FROM DMD. OH, BUT LET ME LOOK. IT'S NOT A TRANSFER AT LEAST. YEAH. I WONDER WHO SIGNED THE INTERLOCAL CONTRACT? IS IT THE, THE CITY SIGNED THE CONTRACT THEN MR. DO, DO YOU KNOW THAT, ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT THE BUS SERVICE? YES, SIR. YEAH. GULF COAST TRANSIT DISTRICT. YEAH, THAT WAS THE CONTRACT WITH THE CITY. OKAY. SO, SO WE JUST, UH, REIMBURSE THE CITY, UM, BASED ON THE CONTRACT AMOUNT, UH, FOR EACH TIME PERIOD. UH, THAT IS MY RECOLLECTION. YES, SIR. AND THAT'S, THAT WOULD EXPLAIN WHY THE AMOUNT VARIES, UH, FROM PERIOD TO PERIOD. SO THE, THE, THE DEAL IS, I THINK IT GOES ON RIDERSHIP TOO. LIKE THEY COME AND GIVE A REPORT AND IT'S BASED ON RIDERSHIP AS WELL. BUT THAT ALL GOES, THE CITY MANAGES IT THEN. SO THE CITY WOULD GET A REPORT ON RIDERSHIP AND DETERMINE WHETHER IT'S STILL A VALUE ADDED PROPOSITION. I THINK THEY CAME AND PRESENTED TO US AS WELL. I DON'T KNOW WHY, BECAUSE IT COMES OUT OF OUR FUND. YEAH, BUT IT'S THE SAME CONTRACT. IT'S DIRECTLY PAID FROM DMD. IT IS DIRECTLY PAID FROM DMDI THINK THAT'S WHY THEY PRESENTED IT DOESN'T GET TRANSFERRED TO THE CITY. SO WHY IS THAT? IF IT'S A CITY CONTRACT? YEAH. THAT'S INTERESTING. I'LL LOOK AT THE CONTRACT. I'M NOT SURE I HAVEN'T, I MEAN, I, WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT, BUT, SO IT'S PER CONTRACT. WELL, AND THE REASON I ASK IS WHAT, WHAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT IS IF, IF IT'S A CITY CONTRACT, REGARDLESS OF HOW THE MONEY FLOW WORKS, ALL THE REPORTING, UH, ON RIDERSHIP AND YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S STILL VALUE ADDED AND ALL THAT NEEDS TO BE IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL, NOT THE DMD, WE'RE HERE JUST TO, UH, HELP THE, HELP THE CITY, UH, FUND IT IF THEY DETERMINED THAT IT'S A PRIORITY FOR THE CITY. I, I DON'T WANT SPEAK FOR MR. KERRY, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT FROM THE LAST TIME THAT THEY PRESENTED TO CURRENT, HE WAS NAMED, UH, UH, EITHER ON THEIR BOARD OF DIRECTORS OR HE HAS BEEN REQUESTED TO BE MORE INVOLVED AND HE'S BEEN ATTENDING MEETINGS LIKE EVERY TWO WEEKS OR SOMETHING. MM-HMM . THEY HAVE INCREASED THEIR INTERVAL INTERVAL FOR MEETINGS DUE TO BUDGETARY CONSTRAINTS. SO, UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT INFORMATION. I WASN'T PREPARED TO SPEAK ON IT, BUT HE COULD PROBABLY SPEAK TO THE SPECIFICS OF THE FUTURE OF GULF COAST TRANSIT DISTRICT AND PROVIDE THE CITY WITH WHERE THEY THINK THEY'RE GOING. YEAH. WHETHER THAT COST IS GONNA GO UP OR GO DOWN. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE ANYTHING INTELLIGENT TO SPEAK ABOUT. AS I'M CONCERNED, THAT'S, UH, PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL. YES, SIR. I THINK YOU'RE CORRECT. UH, HISTORICALLY, UH, MATT, THE COUNCIL HAS HAD A REPRESENTATIVE ON THAT BOARD YES. THAT ATTEND. THAT ATTENDED. OKAY. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WERE ACTUALLY ON THE BOARD OR ATTENDED ALL. THEY WERE ON THE BOARD AND THEY DID NOT ATTEND 'CAUSE I WAS ON THE BOARD. OKAY. WELL THEN THAT WOULD EX WELL THAT WOULD EXPLAIN HIS GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO JULIE, UH, ROBINSON. OKAY. THAT WOULD EXPLAIN HIS RECENT, UM, REQUEST THAT THEY PROVIDED FOR US TO, TO, TO BE, UM, INVOLVED. AND HE HAS BEEN INVOLVED. SO I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR THOSE. SO IS THIS ENOUGH TO COVER, UH, SARAH, IS THIS ENOUGH TO COVER, UH, WHAT THE CITY IS? UH, YES. THIS IS WHAT'S IN THE CURRENT CONTRACT THEY LAID OUT AND I BELIEVE THIS IS THE LAST FISCAL YEAR OF THE CONTRACT. AND SO FAR AS, AND THIS IS THE AMOUNT, SO THIS IS IN THE CITY BUDGET TOO, RIGHT? NO, NO, BUT I CAN DEFINITELY CHANGE THAT 'CAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, I JUST LOOKED IN, THE INVOICE DOES COME TO THE CITY OF DICKINSON. OKAY. SO WE CAN ADD IT TO THE CITY BUDGET AND PUT IT IN THE TRANSFER. YEAH. I MEAN, FROM STEVE, THAT IS THE PROPER WAY TO DO IT. YOU'RE CORRECT. REALLY? WE'RE, WE'RE OUT OF THE PICTURE ON THAT. YEAH. YEAH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE RIGHT. THANK YOU. I WILL, I WILL ADD IT TO THE CITY BUDGET AND PUT IT IN THE TRANSFER FROM DMD. WHAT, WE'RE OUTTA THE PICTURE ON THAT. AND SARAH, IS IT A NOT TO EXCEED CONTRACT? UM, I BELIEVE SO. THE REASON IS IT SAYS EXACTLY 49,181, WHICH IS VERY EXACTING PROBABLY IS [01:30:02] IT, UM, IT'S APPARENTLY THE CITY'S DETERMINED IT AS A, A, A PRIORITY FOR CITY SERVICES. SO IMAGINE IT'S IF YOU'RE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, I, I'M, AND, AND, AND AGAIN, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR MR. CAREY, BUT THAT MAY CHANGE SOON. I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE MAKING SOME CHANGES. I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE. I KNOW THAT THERE'S QUITE A FEW OF, UM, I FORGET WHAT THEY CALL THEM, PEOPLE THAT USE THE MI LEWIS SERVICE CENTER, THAT USE THE BUS SERVICE. MM-HMM . THAT, UH, HERE'S WHAT I DO KNOW. THEY HAVE A, THEY ENORMOUS DEFICIT IN THIS BUDGET. AND, AND THEY CONTINUED TO OPERATE ON A NUMBER THAT RELIED ON A FEDERAL GRANT PARTNERSHIP AND THEY DID NOT GET THAT MONEY. SO THEY HAVE A, THEY, THEY'RE GOING TO BE CUTTING THEIR SERVICES. I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT IN THE NEXT CONTRACT THAT THEY'RE CUTTING SERVICES THAT THE CITY, BUT AGAIN, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR A CITY. WE'LL CONTINUE TO FUND IT AT THE SAME COST. SO I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE THOSE. I WOULD THINK THAT THEY'RE GONNA GO DOWN. BUT I, I WASN'T PREPARED TO SPEAK ON THAT. WELL, SO I DIDN'T GET ANY INFORMATION. THAT'S, BUT EITHER WAY IT'S NOT GONNA BE DBS FROM PROBLEM ANYMORE. FROM OUR STANDPOINT. WE'RE JUST HERE TO UNDERSTAND. PASS THROUGH THE, THE FUNDS. RIGHT. WE'RE JUST HERE AS A PATH WHATEVER, WHATEVER THE CITY AS THE PRIORITY. CORRECT. WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO FUND IT. AGREED. SO WHAT THE CONTRACT SAYS IS THE CITY HAS REQUESTED TO COMMIT $49,181 AS THE LOCAL MATCH TO COMPLETE THE EDMS AND INCORPORATED PURSUIT TO CHAPTER 43 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. AWESOME. ALRIGHT. IS IT ALL RIGHT. SO THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO SPONSORSHIP. UM, THIS I THINK WAS WHAT WE PUT A MORATORIUM ON. SO DOES THAT 40,000 CHANGE OUR UNFORESEEN NEEDS TO 180? NO, IT'S ZERO. ZERO OH, YOU'RE RIGHT. AND THERE'S A BLANKET ZERO. DANG IT. . SO EXCITED. OKAY. UM, AUDIT SERVICES IS NEXT. THAT'S A PART OF THE QUARTERLY TRANSFER AS WELL. UM, AS YOU KNOW, DMD IS A PART OF THE CITY'S AUDIT AS A COMPONENT UNIT. UM, WE ARE CURRENTLY HAVE AN RFP OUT FOR AUDIT SERVICES RIGHT NOW. UM, THE LAST, LAST YEAR, UH, AUDIT SERVICES COST $50,000. I DO EXPECT THAT TO INCREASE SLIGHTLY, UM, BECAUSE THAT WAS A MULTI-YEAR CONTRACT. UM, BUT WE'LL SEE WHAT THE RFP GIVES US. BUT CURRENTLY YOU ARE ONLY CONTRIBU $3,000. SO THAT, AGAIN, IS UP TO THE BOARD TO DECIDE IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO INCREASE THAT OR, AND SO WE PARTICIPATE IN IT. THE CITY PARTICIPATES IN IT IN THE EDC? YES. UH, EDC AND DMV ARE COMPONENT UNITS IN, YOU SAID IT WAS 50,000, CORRECT? YEAH. I WOULDN'T WAIT UNTIL YOU, I WOULD WAIT UNTIL YOU HAVE THE RFP AND THEN YOU'LL KNOW WHAT THE BREAKDOWN NEEDS TO BE. OH, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE IT BEFORE. IF YOU DON'T, THEN WE JUST LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS. THOUSANDS FINE. YEAH, THAT'S IT. YEAH. YEAH. AND THEN WHEN YOU GET THE NEW CONTRACT, MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT IT, DIVIDED IT BY THREE AND POTENTIALLY CHANGE THAT AMOUNT TO HELP Y'ALL OUT A LITTLE BIT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. FINANCE SERVICES. THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S STAYING THE SAME. YEAH, IT'S A PART OF THE A SA. YEP. LEGAL FEES. THE SAME PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND LEGAL FEES ARE AGAIN, ARE WHAT? THAT'S IF WE NEED OUTSIDE COUNSEL FOR ANY REASON AND WE DIDN'T NEED ANY THIS LAST YEAR SO FAR. NO, I THINK IT'S GOOD TO HAVE IT AND CUT THAT AS WELL AS PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE. I THINK, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHAT THAT WAS FOR. I DIDN'T PUT ANY DETAILS IN. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A NEED FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. I DON'T FORESEE ANYTHING. IF YOU GUYS, WHAT, WHAT WOULD FALL UNDER THAT? UH, ACCOUNT CODE? I WOULD SAY CONSULTANTS, YOU KNOW, KIND NEEDED ENGINEERING OR OTHER, YOU KNOW, CONSULTING SERVICES WOULD FALL INTO THAT. YEAH. IF WE'RE NOT GONNA BE DOING ANY OF THAT, I CAN'T FORESEE IT. I WOULD LEAVE AT ZERO. SO DO YOU WANT ME TO PUT, WE'LL TAKE THAT, THE 10,000 OUT. WHAT ABOUT YOU WANNA KEEP LEGAL AT 15 AS A YEAH. LAWYERS ARE EXPENSIVE IF YOU NEED THEM. I SURE HOPE WE DON'T. PROBABLY GOOD TO HAVE IT IN IN THERE AS A CONTINGENCY CORRECT. THINK SO. WHAT THE LEGAL YEAH. YEAH. [01:35:02] ZERO OUT PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. YEP. AND WE ADD THAT BACK TO THE UH, ONE 50,000, LIKE HUNDRED 50,000 IN OUR UM, CONNECTED CITY SERVICE CONNECTED. SO THAT'S LIKE THE MASS NOTIFICATIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE GOTTEN ONE YES. LAST NIGHT FOR DICKINSON ALERT. IT IS A CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS THAT. AND I WOULD GUESS THE 4,200 FOR YEAR TO DATE ACTIVITIES. 'CAUSE WE STILL OWE CORRECT. 'CAUSE IT'S QUARTERLY, SO YEAH. SO IT'S AN EMERGENCY SERVICE ALARM SYSTEM OF SOME SORT. YES. IT'S ENS SEND ALERT. YOU SEE A LOT OF THE FLYERS AND SIGN UP FOR IT. YOU GET A TEXT MESSAGE NOTIFICATION WHEN STUFF IS GOING ON, CORRECT? I DO. I I'M SIGNED UP. IT'S A GOOD THING. SAME ALL QUARTERLY TRANSFER TO THE CITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT IS BASED ON, UM, 40% AVERAGE THAT WE PAY BACK TO THE THREE 80 AGREEMENT. GOT IT. COMPANIES. SO THAT'S PRETTY, THAT'S BASED THAT THAT'LL LOWER A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE LOWERED THE REVENUE. SO THAT WILL GET LOWERED BY EIGHT THREE. THAT'S MONEY THAT COMES IN AND GOES RIGHT BACK OUT. RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. YEAH, I DID A BACK CALCULATION ON IT AND IT LOOKED EXACTLY RIGHT ON FOR THE FORECAST. YEAH. SO I CAN, WE CAN REDUCE THAT BY $80,000 WITH THE $200,000 WE CUT FROM REVENUE. SO 1.2 EVEN MM-HMM . YEP. DOES THAT GO BACK INTO OUR UH, I DON'T THINK SO. THAT WOULDN'T GO INTO OUR, 'CAUSE IT'S COMING IN AND GOING OUT. IT'S A SWEEP ESSENTIALLY, RIGHT? YEAH. BUT IT'S GOING OUT AT A LOWER RATE. SO WE WILL GET TO KEEP $80,000 OF THAT THAT WE CAN PUT BACK IN. SO WE'RE BACK AT TWO 30. CHITTING , I'M GONNA RUN OUTTA SPACE ALL MY CAR. I KNOW. OKAY. WE MOVED OUR RIGHT OF WAY MOWING TO 60,000 LEGISLATIVE SERVICES. DON. YEAH. I ASKED EARLIER ABOUT, UH, WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE AND UH, IS IT, WHO WOULD BE THE RIGHT PERSON TO CHECK WITH THIS GUY THAT WE CONTRACT TO TO FIND OUT WHAT LEGISLATION HAS BEEN FILED TO HURT THE, UH, DMDI? I WILL TELL YOU THAT I HAVE INVITED HIM, UM, AT LEAST TWICE. HE'S SPOKEN TO COUNSEL IN CLOSED SESSION AND DMD BOARD PRIOR TO YOUR MM-HMM . UM, ARRIVAL. AND I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY THAT EVERYONE, UM, WOULD AGREE THAT WHAT HE'S DOING TO KEEP THE MANAGEMENT DISTRICT ALIVE IS WORTH THE COST. BUT THAT WOULD BE A DISCUSSION. I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE HAD. UM, AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. YEAH. I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT HE WAS, UH, DOING BESIDES JUST TALKING TO US. I MEAN, WE NEED TO TALK TO WELL, WHEN HE TALKS TO US, HE'S TELLING YOU WHAT HE'S DOING AND YOU MISSED THAT. SO I GUESS I CAN INVITE HIM JUST FOR YOU OR I COULD PUT YOU IN TOUCH WITH HIM IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT. OKAY. OR SOMEBODY CAN SHARE WITH ME IN PRIVATE BE'S WHAT I, WE'LL TALK, TALK ABOUT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. THAT'S WHAT SAM WE'LL, WE, WE COULD SPEAK TO THE DETAILS OF THE, OF, OF, OF WHAT HE DOES AT, UH, AT THE CAPITOL. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. UM, HMWK, JOHN KROLL SERVICES. OH, THAT'S THE, THAT'S HIM. THAT'S, THAT'S THE BREAKDOWN OF THE THAT'S HIM. THAT'S HIM. SO JOHN KROLL, THAT'S HIS NAME. DON? YES. YES. MM-HMM . MA'AM. UM, PROBABLY TRANSFER. SO TRANSFER TO VRF IS THE, UM, IS THE LINE ITEM THAT WE HAVE A, A LOT OF LEADWAY IN. ORIGINALLY I WAS TOLD A NEW AMBULANCE COSTS UPWARDS OF $700,000. UM, SINCE THEN I'VE BEEN UPDATED THAT IT'S NOT QUITE THAT MUCH. SO, UM, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT, MATT? YEAH. SO, UM, WE NEED AN AMBULANCE, RIGHT? AND WE NEED ONE NEXT FISCAL YEAR IF POSSIBLE. UM, AND EVERY TIME, UH, THAT AMBULANCE, UH, ANYTIME. SO WE HAVE THREE AND WHEN ONE GOES DOWN, WE HAVE TWO IN OPERATION. IF WE END UP WITH ONLY ONE IN OPERATION, OUR INCREASE IN COST OF MUTUAL AID IN ONE YEAR WILL, WILL BE MORE THAN PROBABLY WHAT WE WOULD SPEND ON THE AMBULANCE. [01:40:01] SO ESSENTIALLY WE NEED AN AMBULANCE. THE ORIGINAL THOUGHT, UH, AND, AND, AND QUOTE WAS MUCH HIGHER THAN, UH, THAN OUR LAST COUPLE INQUIRIES. MY CONCERN WITH THAT AMBULANCE THOUGH IS THAT, WELL, WE COULD GET ONE FOR 400 HALF A MILLION. IT'S, THEY'RE ABOUT 12 TO 24 MONTHS BEHIND IN DELIVERY. AND SO FROM THE TIME THAT WE ORDER ONE AT THAT COST TO THE TIME IT GETS DELIVERED IS ANYWHERE FROM 12 TO 24 MONTHS. SO, UM, THAT WAS NEWS TO ME. YOU KNOW, I COME FROM THE EMERGENCY SERVICES WORLD, BUT NOT, NOT AN AMBULANCE. I'VE NEVER PROCURED AN AMBULANCE. UM, THEY'RE PRETTY HIGH TECH NOW FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND. THERE'S A LOT OF FEATURES AND SO THAT'S WHY THAT NUMBER COULD GO UP PRETTY QUICK. UM, SO, UM, ARE YOU SAYING IF WE PLACE AN ORDER, THE PRICE CAN CHANGE AFTER WE PLACE THE ORDERS CHANGE? WELL, IT, IT, IT WILL CHANGE A LITTLE BIT CHANGE, BUT IT'S ALSO GONNA TAKE 12 TO 24 MONTHS FROM THE TIME THAT WE PLACE AN ORDER TO ACTUALLY DELIVERY. AND SO I I, THE REASON I SHARE THAT WITH YOU IS I THINK THAT THAT INCREASES MY PRO IN MY MIND OVERSEEING EMS THE PRIORITY BECAUSE IF WE WAIT UNTIL, OH, WE NEED IT NOW, NOW WE COULD BE, NOW YOU HAVE A PROBLEM. NOW WE COULD BE MU OUR MUTUAL AID COSTS FOR THOSE SERVICES WHEN ONLY RUNNING ONE AMBULANCE COULD, COULD, COULD DOUBLE THE COST OF PURCHASING ONE NOW. SO WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT BOTTLE WISE? WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU WANT? 800, I WOULD SAY 500 UM, WOULD BE A GOOD NUMBER RIGHT NOW. WE STARTED WITH EIGHT AND I COULD REDUCE THAT TO, TO, TO 500 AND GO FROM THERE. OKAY. I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT ARE IS THIS KIND OF A PURCHASE, HAVE PROGRESS PAYMENTS INVOLVED WHERE YOU PAY A LITTLE BIT, UH, TO PLACE THE ORDER AND THEN YOU PLAY A LITTLE BIT MORE AT, UH, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. 25%. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, BUT I'LL FIND OUT BECAUSE IF HE SAID IT'S GONNA BE MORE THAN 12 MONTHS AFTER YOU PLACE THE ORDER BEFORE IT'S DELIVERED AND WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY UNTIL IT'S DELIVERED, THEN THIS MONEY DOESN'T ACTUALLY HIT THE BUDGET UNTIL THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR. THIS IS TRUE. YES. I I UNDERSTAND YOUR, I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. UM, I WILL GET BACK WITH YOU ONCE WE START ACTUALLY GETTING, HEY, WE ARE INTERESTED AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET QUOTES AND OR MORE QUOTES. THIS WAS A ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO. HEY BOSS, I THINK WE NEED ANOTHER AMBULANCE. TELL ME WHY. OH, ALRIGHT. WHAT IS THAT GONNA COST? I DID SOME QUICK, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT I FOUND OUT. OKAY. LET'S GET SOME REAL QUOTES IF I KNOW THAT, THAT WE CAN FUND THIS. AND SO NEXT, LET'S GET SOME REAL QUOTES. IF WE CAN FUND THIS, IF WE CAN ALSO CONFIRM QUESTION THEN OF THE PAYMENTS, THEN WE CAN ALSO CONFIRM WHETHER WE'RE PUTTING HALF OF IT IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET AND THE OTHER HALF OF THE OTHER YEAR'S BUDGET. UNDERSTAND. I'LL GET BACK WITH YOU WITH THAT. YEP. OKAY. SO WE DON'T EVEN HAVE BUDGETARY QUOTES AT THIS POINT. NO, I MEAN THIS IS, THIS IS, THIS IS EARLY, BUT IT'S, I JUST A, I I WANTED TO GET IT IN THERE 'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S RELATIVELY NEW AND IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. SO DO WE NEED TO PUT 500 IN THERE? THAT, THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION. IF WE CAN THROW A, A, A NUMBER IN THERE AND THEN I CAN GET BACK WITH YOU WITH A MODIFICATION. WE HAVE TIME TO TWEAK THAT. YES, WE DO BEFORE. YES SIR. WE APPROVE IT. SO THAT GIVES US ANOTHER 300,000 THINK THAT'S WHAT WE JUST DID. YEAH. CHAING. SO NOW WE'RE AT, UH, FIVE 30. FIVE 30. NOW WE'RE AT FIVE 30. MM-HMM . ALRIGHT. IN THE STREET TERRITORY NOW , WALLY'S FAVORITES. BUT INSURANCE, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT'S PROBABLY KIND OF FIXED COST. WE KINDA KNOW THAT'S, I KNOW THAT IT IS GOING TO BE LIABILITY INSURANCE. THEY SHOULD BE PRESENTING THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING. OKAY. THAT'S RIGHT. THAT EMAIL YOU WERE COPYING ON THOSE EMAILS I BELIEVE. YEP. OKAY. TRANSFER TO DISASTER FUND. NOTHING. THE DISASTER FUND IS NOW WHOLE. I AM PROUD TO SAY. SO WE DO NOT NEED TO TRANSFER THAT EXCELLENT JOB. NOW LET'S PLAY FOR NO DISASTER. , RIGHT? IT WAS, AND THEN, UM, THE STREET MAINTENANCE FUND IS THE, THE TWO 50 THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST SIX OR SO YEARS. WE HAVE A LITTLE EXTRA WHICH IF DEDICATED TO STREETS NOW. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA INCREASE THAT. WE PUT A LITTLE EXTRA IN THERE THIS TIME TO DO WHAT? WE HAVE ROOM TO PUT SOME EXTRA IN THERE THIS TIME. THAT'S STREET MAINTENANCE. YEAH, I WANNA PUT IT IN STREET PROJECT. YEAH. WELL IT, I GUESS CAN THE, THE CITY COME UP WITH SOME ACTUAL STREET PROJECTS, UH, THAT WE CAN FUND? WELL MATT SAID THAT THEY'RE CONSIDERING A STREET LIST IN, IN THEIR BUDGET THIS YEAR. SO HOPEFULLY I'M GONNA PROVIDE THE INFORMATION AND, AND THEN IF WE, UH, [01:45:01] IF WE CAN, UH, I MEAN WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW, I GOT SO MANY CROSSOUTS. OKAY. WE'RE AT FIVE 30 PLUS THE TWO 15. TWO 15. TWO 13 FROM THAT THEY DIDN'T SPEND, THAT'S IN STREET PROJECTS NOW. RIGHT, RIGHT. WE DIDN'T BUDGET ANYTHING IN THE STREET PROJECTS THIS YEAR THOUGH. SO IS THAT WHAT YOU WENT TO? DO YOU WANNA PUT, OH, YOU DIDN'T TWO 50 BACK IN IT, YOU HAD THAT ZERO. YES. SHE HASN'T SHOWN A ZERO. MAN, I HATE IT WHEN THAT HAPPENED. YOU SURE DID. OKAY. BUT IT'D BE SOMETHING LIKE 500 AND SOMETHING. YES. JUST PUT THE FIVE, 500 IN THERE AND LEAVE 30 FOR UNFORESEEN. DO YOU THINK 30 IS ENOUGH FOR UNFORESEEN WHEN WE HAD BARREL? WELL, IT MAY NOT BE. WE HAD TO DO, IT MAY NOT BE, BUT THEY'RE NOT GONNA SPEND AND ALL THAT 500 LIKE WELL TRUE. THEY DIDN'T SPEND THE TWO 13 LAST YEAR. MAYBE THE TWO 13 WASN'T GONNA DO A PROJECT. THIS IS TRUE. THE FIVE HUNDRED'S ENOUGH TO DO A GOOD, GOOD PROJECT. IT WAS INCENTIVE FOR THEM TO KICK IN ENOUGH MONEY TO DO AT LEAST ONE. RIGHT. BUT DIDN'T WORK OUT THEN. DIDN'T WORK OUT. YEAH. YOU CAN USE THE STREET MAINTENANCE FUNDS TO, TO REPLACE A STREET. IT'S ACCORDING TO THE RULES OF THE, UH, LEGISLATION. YOU CAN REPLACE AN EXISTING STREET. YOU JUST CAN'T CREATE A NEW STREET THAT WASN'T THERE BEFORE. , YOU WANNA TAKE THE 500,000 TO STREET PROJECTS? EVERYBODY AGREE WITH THAT? STREET PROJECTS? I THINK SO. AND HOPEFULLY WE GET SOME PROJECTS. AND WHERE ARE WE, WHERE IS THAT LINE ITEM THAT WE'RE IT'S BACK ON PAGE TWO. YEAH. STREET PROJECTS. YES. ABOUT A THIRD OF THE WAY. YEAH. SO YOU WE'RE PUTTING FIVE AND KEEPING 30. YEP. LOOK AT THAT. OKAY. GOOD JOB. KEY ACTION ITEMS THAT, OR ARE WE GONNA TABULATE OUR ACTION ITEMS, UH, THAT WE TALKED ABOUT? YEAH, I THINK WE CAN DO THAT AT THE, WE CAN GIVE US THE FEEDBACK. YEAH, I THINK WE COULD DO THAT AT THE END WHEN WE LOOK AT, UH, NEXT, UH, AGENDA ITEMS. OKAY. AND I'LL DO A BETTER JOB NEXT TIME OF LOOKING AT OUR MINUTES AND MAKING SURE THAT WE POPULATE THE AGENDA WITH THOSE ITEMS. ? YEAH, AND KIM WILL HELP ME WITH THAT. THANK YOU. AND SO WE'RE GONNA KEEP THE 2 54 STREET MAINTENANCE TRANSFER. YES. AS PER USUAL. YES, PER USUAL. SO, UM, AND I GUESS THE, I GUESS THE MESSAGE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, UH, THE, THE MESSAGE TO COUNSEL WOULD BE THIS IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE BASED ON PRIORITIES THAT, I MEAN, WE RECOGNIZE THAT THIS COULD CHANGE BASED ON PRIORITIES ESTABLISHED BY COUNCIL, WHICH WE'RE WILLING TO SUPPORT. YES, SIR. UNDERSTOOD. I I I'LL PASS THAT AND I, I, YOU KNOW, TO MR. CAREY AND I THINK WE UNDERSTAND, I MEAN ALL OF THIS CAN CHANGE AND IT'S HELPFUL THAT WE'RE LIVE STREAMING THIS TOO. I THINK THAT SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE LIKELY WATCHING THIS SO THAT THEY CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE, HOW WE'RE WORKING THROUGH OUR BUDGET AS WELL. WE GOTTA MAKE IT THROUGH THIS STORM SEASON BEFORE, BEFORE THIS BUDGET BECOMES, YOU KNOW, USUAL. HEY, I'M JUST TALKING REALITY. SH WE'RE DOING WELL SO FAR, BUT OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, LET ME DOUBLE CHECK MY ONLINE AGENDA. READY TO GO? WE GOING TO [8. EXECUTIVE (CLOSED) SESSION(S)] EXECUTIVE SESSION? YEP. WE'RE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, EXECUTIVE CLOSE SESSION EIGHT, A TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0 7 1. CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY. CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY ON A MATTER IN WHICH THE DUTY OF THE ATTORNEY TO THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY UNDER THE TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT OF THE STATE BAR OF TEXAS CLEARLY CONFLICTS WITH THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT. AND WE ARE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 7:52 PM [01:50:06] ALL RIGHT, WELCOME BACK. IT IS 8 53 AND WE ARE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM [9. ACTION ITEMS FROM EXECUTIVE (CLOSED) SESSION(S)] NUMBER NINE. ACTION ITEMS FROM EXECUTIVE CODE SESSIONS. TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.071. CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING A MATTER IN WHICH THE DUTY OF THE ATTORNEY TO THE GOVERNMENTAL BODY UNDER THE TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT OF THE STATE BAR OF TEXAS CLEARLY CONFLICTS WITH THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT. UM, THERE WAS NO ACTION OUT OF, UH, EXECUTIVE SESSION, CORRECT MR. DOME? UH, THAT'S CORRECT. UH, THERE'S NO ACTION THAT STAFF IS ASKING FOR. OKAY. [10. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS] UM, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. OUR NEXT, UH, REGULAR MEETING IS NOT UNTIL SEPTEMBER AND, UH, WE MAY, UH, WANT TO HAVE A MEETING AFTER COUNCIL BUDGET WORKSHOP BASED ON, UH, YOU KNOW, CONVERSATIONS THEY HAVE ABOUT, UH, BUDGETS. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S A GOOD DATE, BUT YEAH. AND I THINK SARAH HAD MENTIONED A POTENTIAL JOINT OPPORTUNITY UPCOMING, SO MAYBE WE SHOULD STAY TUNED FOR THAT. I'LL FOLLOW UP. SHE'S SHAKING HER HEAD AND SO I'M SURE WE'LL GET IT SOME COMMUNICATION FROM HER, UH, AS TO WHEN WE CAN JOIN THOSE CONVERSATIONS. ANY OTHER POTENTIAL, UM, AGENDA ITEMS FOR NEXT MEETING? JUST THE BUDGET. THAT'S ALWAYS JUST THE BUDGET. YEP. THERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT BROUGHT UP ABOUT, UH, INDIVIDUAL ITEMS THAT, UH, LIKE THE, UH, METAL BUILDING FOR THE DV AND FB AND SO FORTH THAT WERE NOT AVAILABLE YET. SO I'M ASSUMING THAT WE'RE GOING TO, UH, WHETHER IT'S US OR OTHERWISE, MAYBE A MOOT POINT. , SOMEBODY'S GONNA NEED TO KNOW WHAT A BUDGET COST GONNA BE. CORRECT. ALL RIGHTY. WELL THEN, UM, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, UH, THE AGENDA HAS BEEN SATISFIED AND WE ARE ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.