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[1.CALL TO ORDER AND CERTIFICATION OF A QUORUM]
LET'S CALL THIS, UH, REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.AND LET'S GET A CERTIFICATION OF A QUORUM.
MAYOR TRAVIS MELO, PRESENT, COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNNY SIMPSON.
PRESENT, COUNCIL MEMBER SEAN HOLT.
COUNCIL MEMBER SCOTT SCHRADER.
COUNCIL MEMBER BILL SCHICK HERE.
AND COUNCIL MEMBER KEVIN EDMONDS.
UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND IF, UH, EVERYONE COULD PLEASE RISE.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER SIMPSON WILL, UH, LEAD US IN INVOCATION AND I WILL LEAD THE, UH, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY.
WE THANK YOU FOR EVERY GOOD AND PERFECT GIFT THAT COMES FROM ABOVE FOR WAKING US UP AND STARTING US ON OUR WAY, AND PUTTING FOOD ON OUR TABLES AND CLOTHES ON OUR BACKS, AND BEING IN OUR RIGHT MINDS.
LORD GOD, UH, WE GIVE YOU THANKS FOR THIS CITY, UH, THIS COUNTY, THIS STATE, AND THIS NATION.
WE ASK YOUR BLESSING UPON THIS MEETING, ALLOW IT TO BE EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT.
PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG, OUR PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD ON AN INDIVISIBLE.
ALL RIGHT, SO WE WILL GET IN NUMBER THREE, WHICH
[3.ANNOUNCEMENTS AND PRESENTATIONS]
IS THREE A COUNCIL COMMENTS.WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER EDMONDS, AND MOVE FROM MY LEFT TO RIGHT.
UH, THANK YOU GUYS FOR, UH, BEING HERE, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR, UM, WHOEVER'S ONLINE WATCHING.
UH, JUST BRIEFLY ATTENDED THE MANAGEMENT DISTRICT MEETING, DICKINSON BAYOU WATERSHED DRAINAGE COMMITTEE MEETING THE EDC MEETING, THE BAY TRAIN DRAINAGE MEETING, AND THEN I MET WITH, UH, IVAN LANGFORD AND MATT OLA AT THE RAILROAD DEPOT TO LOOK OVER A FEW ITEMS. THANK YOU.
WELCOME EVERYONE THAT WAS HERE AND ONLINE.
WELCOME, EVERYBODY THAT'S HERE TONIGHT.
MARDI GRAS, MARDI GRAS WEEKEND.
THE FREEWAY WILL BE IN NUTHOUSE, SO BE CAREFUL IF YOU'RE OUT TRAVELING.
I MEANT TO MENTION IT AT THE LAST MEETING AND FORGOT.
DID I SAY HIS NAME RIGHT? YEAH.
CHUCK WHIPPLE WITH, UH, HGAC ANNOUNCED AT THE LAST MEETING LAST WEEK THAT HE, LAST MONTH.
HE'S RETIRING IN AUGUST, SO THERE'LL BE A CHANGE IN THE UPPER PART OF THE, UH, HGAC BOARD UP THERE.
ALRIGHT, WELCOME EVERYBODY HERE AND ONLINE, UH, MAYOR COUNCIL, UH, CITIZENS, BOTH IN PERSON AND ONLINE.
I, UH, DO WANNA SAY THANK YOU, UH, FOR ALL JOINING.
UM, I WANT TO EXTEND MY CONDOLENCES, UH, TO THE FAMILY OF ARCHIE WILLIAMS SENIOR, UM, LONG TIME DICKINSON RESIDENT OF STAPLE.
UH, MANY YEARS AGO WHEN I FIRST DECIDED TO RUN, I WAS TOLD I NEEDED HIS CO-SIGN IF I WANTED TO, UH, WIN AND GET A, GET A WORD FROM THE COMMUNITY.
UH, AND SO I WENT TO GET HIS CO-SIGN.
AND ALSO, UM, WHEN I PASTORED A CHURCH HERE, I WAS TOLD IF, UM, I WANTED MY EVENT TO BE SUCCESSFUL, I NEEDED ARCHIE WILLIAMS TO SIGN OFF ON IT.
AND SO, UH, MY HEART GOES OUT TO HIS FAMILY.
THOSE ARE ALL MY COMMENTS, MAYOR.
UH, I ACTUALLY GET TO ACTUALLY MAKE SOME ANNOUNCEMENTS.
UM, SO THE FIRST THING I WANTED TO BRING UP IS I HAD MYSELF, UH, MR. CAREY, UM, AS WELL AS A FEW OTHER CITY STAFF.
WE HAD OUR QUARTERLY TDOT MEETING, UM, THAT WE'RE, WE'RE CONTINUING TO HAVE, UM, GOING OVER PROJECTS, UH, THAT THEY'RE DEVELOPING AS WELL AS THE ONES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ACTIVE.
AND IT'S BASICALLY GOING OUT WHAT, WHAT THE 20, 30 YEAR PLAN, UM, AS WELL AS BRINGING UP SOME ITEMS THAT WE HAVE SPECIFIC TO DICKINSON, UH, BRING INTO THEIR ATTENTION.
UH, SO THAT'S BEEN A VERY, VERY PRODUCTIVE QUARTERLY MEETING THAT WE STARTED DOING.
UM, UH, AS WELL AS I ATTENDED THE EDC MEETING WITH, UH, COUNCILMAN, UH, SCHICK.
AND, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO JUST BRING UP WITH THAT I'M EXTREMELY HAPPY WITH THE TALENT THAT WE HAVE IN THAT BOARD.
UM, THE, THE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE, THIS IS MY FIRST ONE TO GO.
SINCE WE GOT THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS.
UM, I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE WHAT THEY CAN, UH, TO HELP US DO.
UH, ONE IS MY OWN FEBRUARY 12TH, SEVEN TO 10 DICKINSON HIGH SCHOOL AUDITORIUM IS WHEN I'M HAVING THE FIRST COMMUNITY, UH, TOWN HALL MEETING.
UM, SO COME TELL ME ALL YOUR COMPLAINTS, OR IF YOU JUST HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT, BRING IT UP.
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ONE IS FEBRUARY 20TH, WHICH IS A WEEK FROM THIS FRIDAY, UH, AT 7:00 PM AT KRANZ JUNIOR HIGH.HARLEM WIZARDS ARE COMING TO DICKINSON, UH, TO PLAY AGAINST MYSELF AND, UH, A BUNCH OF THE STAFF AT DICKINSON HIGH SCHOOL OR ACROSS THE DICKINSON SCHOOL DISTRICT.
UM, YOU CAN FIND IT JUST ABOUT ANYWHERE OR JUST CONTACT ME AND I CAN GET YOU A LINK TO GET TICKETS.
UM, BUT THE BIG THING IS THEY'RE TRYING TO RAISE MONEY FOR THE SCHOOLS AND IT'S GONNA BE REALLY ENTERTAINING.
SO I HIGHLY RECOMMEND EVERYONE COME OUT AND CHECK IT OUT.
OTHER THAN THAT, UH, CITY MANAGER, UPDATE WHAT YOU GOT.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL CITIZENS OF OUR GREAT COMMUNITY.
I HAVE A FEW UPDATES IN A STATEMENT I'D LIKE TO MAKE.
I, UH, HUGE ROAD DRAINAGE PROJECT.
UH, THIS PROJECT IS APPROXIMATELY 70, 70% COMPLETE.
WE'RE ON SCHEDULE TO COMPLETE THE, THE PROJECT BY THE END OF OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR, WHICH IS THE DEADLINE.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HEARD FROM MANY PEOPLE ABOUT SAFETY CONCERNS ON HUGHES ROAD, ON DEETS ROAD, ON DIXON, ON COTTONWOOD, ON ALL THESE AFFECTED AREAS.
I'VE BEEN SPEAKING TO SO MANY PEOPLE, AND I, I, I CAN, YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN SCHICK, YOU LIVE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.
WE KNOW THERE'S, UH, SAFETY CONCERNS TO ADDRESS THIS.
WE ARE ACTIVELY EVALUATING THE TRAFFIC ADJUSTMENTS, INCLUDING A POSSIBLE IMPLE IMPLEMENTATION OF A ONE-WAY ROUTING ON HUGHES ROAD, UH, TO ENSURE THE CONSTRUCTION ZONE AND SURROUNDING AREAS REMAIN SAFE, ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT.
UH, WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE PROGRESS AND THE CONDITIONS AND MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AS WORK PROGRESSES.
FINISH THE PROJECT ON SCHEDULE UNDER BUDGET, AND PRIORITIZE SAFETY AT EVERY STAGE.
AGAIN, AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, CONSTRUCTION MEANS PROGRESS.
THIS IS A MAJOR DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT THAT IS CRITICAL TO THE INVESTMENT IN OUR FUTURE.
IT WAS ENGINEERED IN DIRECT RESPONSE TO THE IMPACTS OF HURRICANE HARVEY AND IS ESSENTIAL TO STRENGTHENING OUR COMMUNITY'S RESILIENCY FOR FLOODING.
PLEASE BE PATIENT AND KIND WHEN DRIVING IN A SCHOOL IN CONSTRUCTION ZONE.
UH, I WANNA MENTION THE DICKINSON POLICE DEPARTMENT, CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY.
CLASS 38 BEGINS FEBRUARY 19TH AT SIX 30.
CLASSES WILL BE HELD EVERY THURSDAY FROM SIX 30 TO 8:00 PM AND THE PROGRAM RUNS THROUGH APRIL 30TH.
IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING, WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO SIGN UP.
THIS IS AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN ABOUT THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS DEPARTMENTS AND DIVISIONS THAT MAKE UP YOUR DICKINSON POLICE DEPARTMENT.
NOW, I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO ADDRESS SOMETHING OPENLY AND HONESTLY, MANY PEOPLE WHO KNOW ME KNOW THAT I'M PASSIONATE.
MY PASSION HAS ALWAYS BEEN BOTH THE STRENGTH AND A WEAKNESS OF MINE, ESPECIALLY IN THIS ROLE SERVING IN THIS CITY.
THAT PASSION COMES FROM A DEEP COMMITMENT TO DOING SOME GOOD HERE.
I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT OUR EMPLOYEES, OUR CITY COUNCIL, OUR CITIZENS, OUR CHILDREN, OUR BOARDS, OUR VOLUNTEERS, OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND ABOVE ALL OUR REPUTATION IN THE FUTURE OF THIS CITY.
PEOPLE FROM OTHER CITIES AND PARTNERING AGENCIES FREQUENTLY TELL ME HOW MUCH THEY VALUE AND ENJOY SEEING A MAYOR, A COUNCIL, A CITY MANAGER WHO GENUINELY CARES ABOUT THE WELLBEING OF THEIR CITY.
THAT IS NOT THE NORM IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
AND I CAN PROMISE YOU, WHEN I EXPRESS FRUSTRATION, IT STEMS FROM A PLACE OF PASSION AND CARE.
IT COMES FROM A DEEP DESIRE TO SEE DICKINSON SUCCEED.
I THINK SOMETIMES WE ALL NEED A REMINDER THAT WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME TEAM, TEAM DICKINSON, AND NOW MORE THAN EVER, WE MUST COME WORK TO COME TOGETHER TO DEMONSTRATE OUR COMMITMENT TO IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
WE ARE AT A PIVOTAL MOMENT IN OUR HISTORY.
WE HAVE MEANINGFUL OPPORTUNITIES ALREADY IN MOTION.
WE HAVE MOMENTUM LIKE WE HAVE NOT SEEN IN YEARS WITH A STRONG SUPPORT FROM PEOPLE AND PARTNERS WHO BELIEVE IN US.
THIS IS NOT THE TIME FOR DIVISION.
THE FUTURE IS AT OUR DOORSTEP, AND IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO BE PREPARED TO SEIZE IT.
OUR COMMUNITY DESERVES BETTER.
THEY DESERVE TANGIBLE PROGRESS, NOT MISSED OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE SEEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN, THAT THAT PROGRESS BEGINS WITH UNITY.
THERE WILL ALWAYS BE INDIVIDUALS WHO PREFER CONFLICT AND FAILURE.
MY MESSAGE IS FOR THOSE WHO ARE COMMITTED TO MOVING DICKSON FORWARD, WE HAVE RESOURCES, WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES.
NOW IS THE TIME TO COME TOGETHER, STAY FOCUSED, AND DO THE WORK NEEDED TO SECURE A BETTER FUTURE FOR OUR CITY.
THIS IS A QUESTION FOR ALL OF US.
WHAT KIND OF LEGACY DO WE WANNA LEAVE? A LEGACY OF BRINGING IN BUSINESS AND DEVELOPMENT AND KICK-STARTING THIS COMMUNITY AND SETTING DIGON ON A PATH TO GROWTH AND PROSPERITY, OR LEAVING A LEGACY OF DOING NOTHING.
ALLOWING THE CITY TO DECLINE SLOWLY DINE A SLOW DEATH YEAR AFTER YEAR.
LET ME BE CLEAR ABOUT SOMETHING DYING.
WHAT THAT MEANS FOR A CITY, IT MEANS BEING FORCED TO CUT SERVICES, CUT PROGRAMS, CUT OPPORTUNITIES,
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WHICH WE HAVE SEEN HAPPEN TO CITIES ALL ACROSS THIS COUNTRY.WHEN THEY FAILED TO ACT, WHEN THEY FAILED TO INVEST, WHEN THEY FAILED TO MOVE FORWARD, WHEN THEY HAD A CHANCE TO DO SO.
BUT THAT IS NOT THE FUTURE WE HAVE TO ACCEPT RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEAVE A LEGACY OF SERVICE, OF PROGRESS, OF PRODUCTIVITY, A LEGACY WHERE WE MADE BOLD DECISIONS, PROTECTED OUR SERVICES, AND POSITIONED DIGON FOR LONG-TERM SUCCESS.
THIS MO THIS MOMENT WILL DEFINE US.
DO WE WANT TO BE REMEMBERED AS THE LEADERS WHO HELPED REBUILD AND REVITALIZE DICKINSON OR THE ONES WHO ALLOWED OPPORTUNITY TO PASS US BY AGAIN? SO LET ME BE VERY CLEAR AND GO ON THE RECORD.
THIS IS THE WORST POSSIBLE MOMENT TO TAKE ANY ACTION THAT EVEN REMOTELY SUGGEST WE ARE NOT FULLY COMMITTED TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN DICKINSON.
THERE IS NO DEPARTMENTAL UPDATE, MAYOR.
SO, UM, CAN I ASK HIM A QUESTION? YEP.
QUICK ON YOUR TDOT UH, MEETING YOU HAD, DID THEY GIVE YOU ANY TIMELINES FOR STARTING THE PROJECT ON FM FIVE 17 WEST TO ALVIN? 2030? THE EARLIEST.
THE WINDING OF FIVE 17 OUT TO BRAZORIA COUNTY.
THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR LAND ACQUISITION.
UH, ON THE EAST SIDE THERE'S A SIGN.
TEXDOT JUST PUT OUT, UH, SAME FIVE SEVENTEENS CLOSED TO 1 46.
JUST, I GUESS JUST OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.
DO WE, DO WE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? THE SIGN'S IN OUR CITY LIMITS, IT'S A LIGHTED SIGN AND IT'S JUST SAYING THAT FIVE 17 TO 1 46 IS CLOSED.
IT MAY BE DOWN HERE ONE, IT MAY BE DOWN THERE, 1 46.
THEY'RE DOING ABOUT A LOT OF DRAINAGE WORK.
AND THEN THEY WERE DOING SOME WORK THE OTHER DAY AND THEY HAD EVERYBODY IN ONE LANE.
IT LOOKED LIKE THEY WERE FIXING TO OPEN IT UP.
WHEN I COME THROUGH THERE, GOING BACK TO TECH CITY FROM THE LAPORTE AREA, THAT SIGNS OUT TOWARDS, UH, BAYOU MAISON SITTING RIGHT OUTSIDE THE SUBDIVISION.
SO I WAS JUST ASKING THEY DIDN'T, YEAH, I'M NOT SURE.
THEY DIDN'T BRING IT UP IN, IN THE, IT DID NOT HAVE AN ID FOR LIKE ALL OF THEIR PROJECTS.
UM, 'CAUSE I ALSO ASKED ABOUT THE QUICK TRIP SITUATION AS WELL.
UM, BUT WE, I CAN ALWAYS REACH OUT TO DAVID LAZARO.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CITY MANAGER? ALL RIGHT.
IF THAT'S THE CASE, UM, SOMETHING THAT, IT'S NOT AN AGENDA ITEM, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT I PROPOSED LAST TIME.
SHE IS THE, UH, FOUNDER AND OWNER OF, UH, CEM.
SO IT'S HER MARKETING COMPANY.
UM, SHE'S GONNA COME AND PERFORM HER, UH, PRESENTATION.
TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HERSELF, HER COMPANY, WHAT THEY DO, UM, JUST SO EVERYBODY HAS THE INFORMATION AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD HOW WE DEEM FIT AFTER THE FACT.
SO WE'RE NOT HERE TO ACTUALLY MAKE ANY DECISIONS, IT'S JUST TO LEARN ABOUT WHAT SHE CAN PROVIDE FOR THE CITY.
UM, SO THIS IS KIND OF THE PERFECT SPOT TO DO IT.
UM, LIKE USE THE MICROPHONE SO THAT YEAH.
I DON'T, IT'S KIND OF AWKWARD.
YOU'RE TALKING TO THEM ANYWAYS, SO, ALL RIGHT.
IT'S NOT HOW I WAS RAISED, BUT YEAH, NO, I GOT YOU.
I AM THE OWNER OF CM SOLUTIONS.
UH, WE STARTED OFF AS AN EVENT MANAGEMENT COMPANY.
WE QUICKLY MOVED TO MARKETING WHEN, UM, CLIENTS ASKED US TO PROVIDE MARKETING SERVICES, BECAUSE WE WERE DOING SO MANY EVENTS, ESPECIALLY AROUND THIS AREA, THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRUSTING YOU WITH OUR SPONSORSHIP DOLLARS AND WE'RE MEETING CLIENTS EVERY, AT EVERY EVENT THAT YOU DO.
IT JUST MAKES SENSE, UM, THAT YOU, UM, WE COME TO YOU FOR MARKETING.
AND SO THAT'S WHEN THE MARKETING SIDE OF CEM WAS OPEN.
UM, I WANT TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT.
UM, THIS IS THE YEAR OF VIDEO, RIGHT? IT'S SAD TO SAY, BUT NO ONE WANTS TO READ ANYMORE.
AND, AND SO YOU'VE GOT TO PUT IT OUT THERE IN VIDEO AND VERY MUCH IN SHORT FORM VIDEO.
SO WE HAVE SAM EISENHOWER, WHO'S OUR DIRECTOR OF MEDIA.
AND WHAT SAM DOES, HE IS VERY SOFT SPOKEN.
AND WHAT HE DOES IS HE PULLS OUT THE STORY AND THE PASSION BEHIND WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING.
I IMMEDIATELY THOUGHT OF HIM WHEN YOU SPOKE ABOUT ARCHIE, BECAUSE IF ARCHIE IS SOMEONE WHO EVERYONE KNOWS IN DICKINSON AND HE'S KIND OF LIKE A LEGACY, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE THAT WE WOULD PULL HIM INTO A ROOM AND INTERVIEW HIM ABOUT THE DICKINSON FROM YESTERDAY AND THE DICKINSON HE SEES RIGHT NOW AND THE DICKINSON OF THE FUTURE.
SO THINGS LIKE THAT IS WHAT YOU'RE, WHOEVER YOU CHOOSE AS A MARKETING COMPANY, THAT'S WHAT THEY NEED TO BRING FORWARD.
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BECAUSE ANYONE CAN PUT ANYTHING OUT THERE, SOCIAL POST OR A DIME DOZEN.I CALL SOCIAL MEDIA A NECESSARY EVIL IN ORDER TO BE A DIFFERENTIATOR.
IT'S THE PASSION, IT'S THE COMMUNITY.
IT'S THE HEART BEHIND WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
SO AGAIN, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME.
I HAVE A LOT OF ASSOCIATION EXPERIENCE, A LOT OF INDUSTRIAL EXPERIENCE.
SO A LOT OF THE COMPANIES AROUND HERE IN DICKINSON AND SEABROOK ARE ACTUALLY PROBABLY CLIENTS OF OURS.
SO BEING ABLE TO SPEAK THAT LANGUAGE AND KNOW THE LINGO AND HOW TO REACH THOSE PEOPLE IS VERY MUCH SOMETHING THAT, UM, WE DO ON AN EVERYDAY BASIS ANYWAY.
WE'RE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY CONSTANTLY.
WE GIVE BACK, UM, 10% OF EVERYTHING CEM DOES GIVES BACK TO, UM, SOME TYPE OF FOUNDATION OR CHURCH.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE IN.
SO, UM, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.
I WOULDN'T BE UP HERE PUTTING MY NAME BEHIND SOMETHING IF I DIDN'T BELIEVE THAT WE COULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
UM, IT'S MY REPUTATION ON THE LINE.
I DON'T WANNA SEE ANY OF YOU GUYS AT HEB AND HAVE TO HOLD MY HEAD AND DOWN.
UM, SO THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME AND VERY SPECIAL TO ME.
SO AGAIN, OUR CORE SERVICES IS EVERYTHING.
SO WE WILL DO A LOT OF THINGS TO YOUR WEBSITE.
MOST OF IT YOU PROBABLY YOU'LL SEE, BUT A LOT OF IT YOU WON'T SEE A LOT OF KEYWORDS.
SEO SEARCHES A EO, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, IS VERY POPULAR RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS, UM, ANSWER ENGINE OPTIMIZATION.
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO CHAT GPT FOR EVERYTHING.
SO WE WILL PUT IN THINGS LIKE YOUR EVENT COMING UP, WE'LL PUT IN, UM, JUST, YOU KNOW, WHAT TO DO IN DICKINSON ON A FRIDAY NIGHT.
WE'LL PUT THOSE KINDS OF THINGS ON THE BACKEND OF YOUR WEBSITE SO WHEN PEOPLE ARE SEARCHING, CHAT, GBT, THOSE EVENTS AND STUFF POP UP.
I ALSO JUST WANNA MENTION TOO ABOUT OUR EVENTS AND CONFERENCES, BECAUSE EVENTS AND CONFERENCES ARE HALF OF WHAT CM DOES.
THE OTHER HALF IS THE DIGITAL MARKETING.
THE REASON THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU GUYS IS BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING EVENTS ON A CONSTANT BASIS.
SO US BEING ABLE TO LOOK AT YOUR EVENTS AND LOOK AT YOUR SPONSORSHIP OFFERINGS AND, AND SAY, OKAY, HOW CAN WE PROVIDE MORE ROI TO THESE COMPANIES THAT ARE SPONSORING, UM, THAT WOULD HELP BRING IN MORE SPONSORSHIP DOLLARS TO THE CITY, BUT ALSO MORE BRAND VISIBILITY TO THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF COMPANIES THAT ARE AROUND DICKINSON.
UM, AND HOW WE CONNECT PEOPLE.
THIS GOES BACK TO THE STORYTELLING AND PURPOSE.
UM, AGAIN, THIS IS THE DIFFERENTIATOR, ESPECIALLY IN 2026.
UM, PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW AND THEY WANT TO DO BUSINESS AND THEY WITH PEOPLE THEY KNOW, LIKE, AND TRUST, AND THEY WANT TO LIVE IN A COMMUNITY THAT FEELS LIKE A COMMUNITY.
AND SO THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD BRING OUT FOR DICKINSON, RIGHT? IT'S SPECIAL HERE.
YOU GUYS ARE ALL DOING THIS, UM, ON A VOLUNTEER BASIS, SEVEN O'CLOCK ON A TUESDAY NIGHT, WE WOULD BRING THAT OUT ALONG WITH MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE PRESENT AT YOUR EVENTS.
WE'RE GETTING TO KNOW PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN, UM, AROUND DICKINSON FOR A LONG, LONG TIME AND INTERVIEWING THEM AS WELL, BECAUSE WE WANNA GET TO THE HEART OF IT, RIGHT? AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT CEM IS REALLY GOOD AT, MAINLY BECAUSE, UM, CEM HAS BUILT ITS ITSELF ON ITS REPUTATION.
AND THAT'S FROM DOING THINGS BASED ON A HANDSHAKE AND THE FACT THAT OUR REPUTATION IS ON THE LINE.
I I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS WANNA WATCH THIS VIDEO OR NOT, BUT THESE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES THAT I PUT IN HERE TO SHOW YOU THE KIND OF STORYTELLING THAT WE DO.
AND SO WE CAN WATCH 'EM NOW OR YOU CAN WATCH 'EM AT YOUR LEISURE IF YOU WANT TO.
Y'ALL WANNA WATCH IT? LET'S WATCH IT.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY VENUE OR ANY TYPE OF INDUSTRY THAT WE GET INTO WHEN I STARTED EIGHT YEARS AGO.
SO WE FILMED THAT IN OUR OLD SEABROOK OFFICE, UM, RIGHT DOWN THE STREET.
AND SO WHAT WE DID IS WE HAD THE VPS FLY IN AND WE BASICALLY PUT THEM IN ONE OF THOSE DIRECTOR'S CHAIRS AND FOR A SOLID HOUR WE ASKED QUESTIONS AND GOT TO THE ROOT OF WHY THEY DID WHAT THEY DID.
'CAUSE ANYONE CAN SAY THEY'RE A COATINGS COMPANY.
ANYONE CAN SAY THAT THEY HIRE THE BEST BLASTERS, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
NONE OF THAT REALLY MATTERS ANYMORE.
AND SO WE'RE GONNA BRING THAT OUT IN EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.
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IT'S NOT, HERE'S ANOTHER VIDEO, BUT YOU GUYS CAN WATCH IT LATER.SO HERE'S SOME OF JUST THE BRANDS AND THE ASSOCIATIONS AND THINGS THAT WE SERVE.
WE'RE PART, UM, WE SERVE AS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR SOCIETY OF MAINTENANCE AND RELIABILITY PROFESSIONALS, WHICH IS A LOT OF THE MEN AND WOMEN, WOMEN WHO WORK IN THE PLANTS AROUND HERE, UM, ALONG WITH VARIOUS, UM, COMPANIES.
SOME ARE COATINGS COMPANIES, SOME ARE TANK COMPANIES, SOME ARE WELDING COMPANIES.
UM, YOU NAME IT, WE'VE COVERED IT.
HERE'S JUST SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT SOME OF OUR CLIENTS ARE SAYING.
AND THEN I WANTED TO GET INTO THIS 'CAUSE I WAS HOPING THIS WOULD BE MORE OF A CONVERSATION, BUT THIS IS THE PROPOSAL FOR THE MONTHLY RETAINER THAT I'VE PUT FORWARD.
SO I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU GUYS TO LOOK THROUGH THIS AND ASK ME ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO TO MAKE A PRETTY BIG IMPACT THIS YEAR FOR YOU GUYS.
AND I WILL SAY, I SPOKE TO CHASE THIS MORNING AND WE KIND OF WERE, UM, AND KAITLYN AS WELL.
AND WE KIND OF TALKED THROUGH LIKE WHAT THE PROCESS WOULD BE SO THAT, 'CAUSE THERE HAS TO BE A WAY FOR US TO RECEIVE THE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING.
AND SO WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, ON MONDAY MORNINGS HE HAS HIS DEPARTMENTAL MEETING.
WE WOULD EITHER BE HERE IN PERSON OR JOIN OVER THE PHONE, UM, SO THAT WE COULD HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND ALSO REPORT TO YOU GUYS ON OUR WEEKLY DELIVERABLES.
EVERY ONE OF OF MY TEAM MEMBERS IS LOCAL.
SO YOU WOULD VERY MUCH GET TO KNOW US.
SAM WOULD BE AT A LOT OF THE EVENTS, UM, THAT YOU GUYS PRODUCE.
AND WE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS KNOW US.
AND OUR GOAL IS, AND WE GET THERE PRETTY QUICKLY, IS THAT YOU LOOK AT US AS YOUR MARKETING DEPARTMENT WITHOUT THE OVERHEAD, RIGHT? SO I HAVE A GRAPHIC ARTIST, I HAVE A WEBMASTER, A VIDEOGRAPHER, AN SEO EXPERT, ALL OF THOSE ON STAFF THAT ARE ALL WORKING TO MAKE DICKINSON BIGGER AND BETTER ONLINE, UM, WITH THE COST OF BASICALLY ONE MARKETING PERSON.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM, UH, ANY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS? SO, AND I GUESS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I'VE KIND OF TOOK ON AND YOU KNOW, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THE WAY I THINK CHASE, YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT IT WOULD BE BASICALLY CHASE, YOU AND KAITLYN WOULD BE THE, THE FUNNEL TO YOU GUYS.
AND SO THE BIGGEST THING THAT I'VE SEEN SINCE I GOT INVOLVED WAS OUR, OUR, THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE, IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE, BUT IT IS SO DEEP INSIDE OF A LOT OF DIFFERENT CLICKS.
WE NEED TO GET THE THE MATERIAL OUT THERE SO OUR CITIZENS ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY CONVERSATIONS I HAVE TO HAVE OF EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID IS COMPLETELY INCORRECT BECAUSE IT'S ILLEGAL AND THAT'S NOT HOW IT ACTUALLY WORKS.
AND THEN THEY'RE LIKE, OH, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
SO PART OF THIS COULD HELP A LOT OF US GETTING INFORMATION OUT, UM, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF THAT YOU SAID YOU HAVE, WHAT, SIX OR SEVEN ON STAFF? UM, SO WHEN I LOOKED AT IT AS THE COST ANALYSIS, IT MADE A A LOT MORE SENSE.
SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO AT LEAST BRING HER, UH, UP HERE AND AT LEAST SHOW YOU WHAT SHE CAN DO AND WHAT HER TEAM CAN DO.
UH, YEAH, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, I, UM, HAVING WORKED IN MEDIA PRODUCTION, UM, THIS IS DEFINITELY NEEDED.
UH, ESPECIALLY THE, THE SEO SEARCH ENGINE OPTIMIZATION.
UH, 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW WHEN YOU SEARCH DICKINSON, USUALLY THE TV SHOW COMES UP, UH, PRIMARILY MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
AND SO TO, TO MAKE THE INFORMATION EASY FOR PEOPLE TO ACCESS WITHOUT HAVING TO GO TO THE FOURTH OR FIFTH MM-HMM
AND, AND, UH, AT THAT PRICE POINT, I, I THINK IT'S A GREAT VALUE.
SO, AND WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENT, I GUESS, PLATFORMS THAT Y'ALL ARE GONNA BE? SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT, LIKE GOOGLE SEARCH AND YOU TALK ABOUT FACEBOOK AND INSTAGRAM, IS IT ALL OF THEM? IS IT SOME OF THEM? WHICH ONES DO Y'ALL MAKE? IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE ALL OF THEM.
INCLUDING CHAT, GPT, WHICH GOES BACK TO THE A EO THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER.
SO WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COMMUNICATING ON ALL FOREFRONTS.
AND THEN AGAIN, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, GETTING THE INFORMATION OUT THERE IS ONE THING.
SO YOU CAN PUT IT OUT THERE IN A BLOG, IF YOU WILL.
NOBODY'S GONNA READ IT NOWADAYS.
YOU'VE GOT 10 TO 20 SECONDS TO CAPTURE THEIR ATTENTION.
AND THAT IS WHERE WE WOULD COME IN AND THAT'S WHERE YOU WOULD SEE US QUITE A BIT ASKING YOU WITH, WITH A CAMERA IN YOUR FACE, TRAVIS, WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT, WHAT DO
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WE WANNA GET OUT THERE? AND I ALSO BELIEVE THAT AS MUCH AS WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S, AND WE WANNA PUT AS MUCH INFORMATION OUT THERE, I ALSO THINK THERE'S SOMETHING TO BE SAID ABOUT A COMMUNITY STICKING UP FOR A COMMUNITY.RIGHT? AND THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT IS TO MAKE PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY'RE A PART OF IT.
AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT A GOOD PORTION OF WHAT WE'RE CONCENTRATING ON IS THAT THEY'RE CHOOSING TO LIVE IN DICKINSON.
AND MAKING THEM FEEL LIKE THEY'RE A PART OF SOMETHING.
'CAUSE AT, AT THE END OF THE DAY, EVERYBODY WANTS TO BELONG.
AND SO THAT'S THE BIG PART TO ME IN THIS IS, YES, WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING THE INFORMATION OUT THERE, BUT ALSO WE WANNA GIVE, BE MAKE PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY'RE A PART OF SOMETHING.
SO I, I'M VERY HEART FOCUSED, SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, BUT TO ME IT'S JUST MORE THAN BUSINESS.
ANY OTHER, UH, QUESTIONS FOR, UH, OUR GUEST? ALL? WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ALRIGHT, WELL NOW LET'S GET INTO NUMBER FOUR.
[4.PUBLIC COMMENTS]
COMMENTS.UH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE INVITED TO GIVE COMMENTS AT THIS TIME, LASTING NOT LONGER THAN THREE MINUTES.
COMMENTS MAY BE GENERAL IN NATURE OR MAY ADDRESS A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM AND SHOULD BE DIRECTED AT THE ENTIRE COUNCIL.
NOT INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL OR STAFF.
ANY SPEAKER MAKING PERSONAL ATTACKS OR USING VULGAR OR PROFANE LANGUAGE SHALL FORFEIT HIS OR HER REMAINING TIME AND SHALL BE SEATED IN COMPLIANCE WITH TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.
THE CITY COUNCIL MAY NOT DELIBERATE, DELIBERATE, UH, FOR GENERAL COMMENTS, I HAVE ONE, MR. JOE WILBURN.
JOE WILBURN LIVE RIGHT HERE IN DICKINSON, TEXAS.
I WANTED TO TOUCH ON A COUPLE OF THINGS.
THE, UH, WHETHER YOU'RE DOING A PROJECT, THE EDC OR THE DMD, WHOEVER'S DOING IT, UH, EAST END, WEST END, WHATEVER IT IS, I, I'D LIKE FOR Y'ALL TO, UH, PLEASE KEEP THE DEMOGRAPHICS IN MIND.
UH, WHEN, WHEN YOU'RE ACCEPTING, UH, PART OF IT, YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THIS TO GET THIS, THE BIG PRIZE DEMOGRAPHICS ARE REALLY HARD TO CHANGE.
AND, UH, WHATEVER YOU DECIDE THAT YOU'RE GONNA DO ON ONE END OF THE ONE END OF THE CITY THAT, UH, BRINGS IN A LOT OF WHAT YOU THINK IS GONNA BE GOOD, COULD BE A DETERRENT FOR, UH, FOR A GROCERY STORE CHAIN OR WHATEVER YOUR DEMOGRAPHICS ARE, ARE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO A CITY.
UH, I LOOK AT ALL OF IT WHENEVER I'M INVESTING AND, UH, EVERYBODY UP HERE HAS A TALENT PREACHERS AND, AND, UH, OPERATORS ON ARMS. AND EVERYBODY UP HERE HAS A TALENT.
I'VE HAD A TALENT OF, UH, BUYING THINGS THAT ARE WORTHLESS AND TURNING 'EM INTO, UH, SOMETHING THAT'S, UH, THAT'S VERY VALUABLE.
AND, UH, I CAN SEE A VISION, UH, FOR DICKINSON.
AND MAN, THE POTENTIAL IS JUST, JUST VERY, VERY GREAT.
IT'S JUST UNBELIEVABLE WHAT I THINK COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED IN JUST A VERY SHORT TIME IF, IF THE PATH WAS CHOSEN.
BUT DEMOGRAPHICS ARE HARD TO, THEY'RE HARD TO OVERCOME.
AND GETTING, GETTING A GROCERY STORE HERE IS A BIG THING FOR DICKINSON RESIDENTS.
AND, AND, UH, I THINK IT COULD BE ACHIEVED, UH, WITHIN A COUPLE OF YEARS.
BUT ANOTHER THING I WAS GONNA SAY, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I'VE BEEN HARSH ON THE EDC, I'VE, I'VE, I'VE HAD BAD TIMES WITH THE EDC.
I'VE WATCHED IT AND I HADN'T SEEN ANY RETURN, UH, IN, IN THE WHOLE ENTIRE TIME THAT, THAT, UH, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE CITY, NEVER HAS THERE BEEN A, BEEN A RETURN WITH THE EEDC.
AND IT SEEMS EVERYBODY, UH, FEELS LIKE THEY HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO SAVE IT.
AND, AND THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA COME UP WITH A, AN IDEA TO MAKE IT BETTER.
AND WHAT I'VE SEEN IN THAT IS THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF REPUTATIONS LOST.
A LOT OF GOOD MEN HAVE GONE DOWN, UH, IN, UH, IT'S JUST A, IT IS JUST A HARD THING TO OVERCOME WHEN THERE'S THAT MANY PEOPLE DIPPING INTO THE POT.
AND IF, UM, IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA PUT IT ON A BALLOT TO ABOLISH THE EDC, UH, I WOULD, I WOULD ASK IF YOU HAD AT LEAST CONSIDER A A TAKING A HALF OR A ONE EIGHTH CENT AND, AND GIVEN THE REST OF THE CITY WHILE WE'RE IN THIS BIG DOWNTURN SO WE CAN MAINTAIN THE CITY TO WHERE WE CAN PROMOTE GROWTH.
AND, UM, I'M HOPING THAT, UH, I'M HOPING THAT GOOD THINGS WILL, WILL COME FROM THAT.
BUT, UH, IF, IF YOU DON'T INVEST IN THE CITY, JUST LIKE CHASE SAID THERE, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA SET OF PROBLEMS, YOU GOTTA HAVE MONEY TO INVEST IN IT.
BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE SPENDING ABOUT 350,000 A MONTH SENDING EDC MONEY TO THE CITY AND ANOTHER 400,000 OR SO ON PAYROLL AND, AND PAPER AND ALL THAT, WHICH EQUATES TO ALMOST HALF OF WHAT THE EDC IS BRINGING IN.
AND, UH, I JUST THINK THE MONEY COULD BE BETTER SPENT, UH, RIGHT NOW IN A DOWNTURN TRYING TO GET THE CITY BACK UP.
[5.CONSENT AGENDA]
CONSENT AGENDA.THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE CONSIDERED ROUTINE BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION.
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SEPARATE DISCUSSION ON THESE ITEMS UNLESS A COUNCIL MEMBER REQUESTS IN WHICH THE EVENT WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND DISCUSSED AFTER THE CONSENT AGENDA.DO I HAVE A MOTION? VOTE TO APPROVE.
THERE NEEDS TO BE A, SO I WOULD LIKE TO PULL IT FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.
SO, FIVE A CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM CITY COUNCIL'S REGULAR MEETING HELD ON JANUARY 27TH, 2026.
THE ONLY AMENDMENT THAT I SAW WAS ON ITEM SEVEN D.
IT FAILED TO RECORD A, AN AFFIRMATIVE VOTE.
THE AFFIRMATIVE VOTE WAS NOT RECORDED.
SO MOTION, UH, SHOULD I'LL AMEN MY MOTION THEN.
'CAUSE I, I MEAN WE HAD IT ON THE FLOOR.
I'LL, I'LL AMEND MY MOTION IF SOMEBODY AMENDS THEIR SECOND.
I HEARD THREE NAMES OR THREE PEOPLE.
SIX A CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE CALLING A SPECIAL ELECTION FOR THE PURPOSE OF SUBMITTING TO THE QUALIFIED VOTERS OF THE CITY, A BALLOT PROPOSITION TO ABOLISH THE SALES AND USE TAX FOR THE CITY FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE DICKINSON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.
INCREASE THE CITY SALES AND USE TAX FOR GENERAL REVENUE.
UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL DEFER BECAUSE I THINK WE'VE GOT A NEW, UH, ORDINANCE GETTING UP FOR THAT.
SO YOU WE'RE GOING TO JUST CORRECT, WELL, IT'S TOTALLY UP TO THE COUNCIL.
WANT, ARE YOU GONNA REMOVE THIS? DO YOU WANT TO DEFER THIS ITEM TO TAKE IT UP LATER ON THE AGENDA? OR DO YOU WANT TO JUST NOT ADDRESS THIS AT ALL AND HAVE IT NOT COME UP BECAUSE THERE'S NO MOTION OFFERED? I'D LIKE TO LET IT DIE IN LACK OF A MOTION.
SO DO I HAVE A MOTION? ALL RIGHT.
MOTION OR GO AHEAD AND DIES WITH THAT.
SO WE'LL GO TO SEVEN A AND THE ONES THAT HAVE SIX A I WILL MOVE TO SEVEN A FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
SO EVERYBODY'S GONNA GET A CHANCE.
SEVEN, A CONSIDERATION, POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE CALLING A SPECIAL ELECTION FOR THE PURPOSE OF SUBMITTING TO THE QUALIFIED VOTERS OF THE CITY, A BALLOT PROPOSITION TO REDUCE THE SALES AND USE TAX FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE DICKINSON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND INCREASE THE CITY SALES AND USE TAX FOR GENERAL REVENUE.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? CAN WE SEE THE WHOLE THING ON THE BOARD? UM, I CAN, I HAVE SOME DISCUSSION BEFORE WE MAKE A MOTION.
UM, IT JUST SAYS DECREASE OR REDUCE MM-HMM
DO WE HAVE A, AN INTENDED AMOUNT? IT HAS TO BE 0.125.
IT'S THE SMALLEST WE CAN ACTUALLY GO.
SO WE'RE ALREADY, BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING, WE'RE TALKING THE SMALLEST THAT WE CAN GO, THAT'S THE SMALLEST WE CAN GO.
IT'S NOT SPECIFIED HERE AND IT HAS TO BE IN EIGHTH INCREMENTS.
SO I GUESS ACTUALLY, UM, HOW DO I SU I CAN JUST SUSPEND THE RULES AND SAY WE NEED TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR INFORMATION THAT IS PREVALENT TO THIS ITEM.
UM, IS THAT AN, THAT'S SOMETHING LIKE I'M ALLOWED TO DO? YOU, YOU, YOU CAN DO THAT.
UH, BUT YOU'LL NEED TO, I GUESS, IDENTIFY THE CLOSED SESSION EXCEPTION MM-HMM
TO, TO TOMA THAT WE WOULD BE RELYING ON TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION BECAUSE IT HAS TO FIT ONE OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, LIMITED EXCEPTIONS AND A TWO THIRDS VOTE RIGHT ON THE SUSPENSION OF THE RULES FOR THE ORDER, UH, TO SUSPEND THE RULES AND, AND, AND GO TO A CLOSED SESSION.
NOW, UH, YES SIR, WE REQUIRE TWO THIRDS VOTE, UH, NOT TWO THIRD, IT'S JUST A CIVIL MAJORITY TO SUSPEND THE RULES.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS THE INFORMATION THAT I KNOW I WAS READ IN ON, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS GOVERNING BODY BEFORE THEY MAKE ANY DECISIONS ON THIS.
I THINK WOULD, I WOULD LIKE, THAT WOULD FALL UNDER TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.087 DELIBERATION REGARDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS.
SO, SO I CAN DO THAT POTENTIALLY.
IF THERE IS A MOTION THAT IS, THAT PASSES MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES AND ORDER.
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MOTION PASSED.SO WE'RE GONNA GO INTO EXECUTIVE
[8.EXECUTIVE (CLOSED) SESSION(S) (Part 1 of 2)]
SESSION AND WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS, UH, AT 7 35.I GOTTA MAKE SURE I DON'T, ALRIGHT, WELL LET'S GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT BACK UP AT 8 0 9.
AND, UH, BEFORE WE GET INTO, UH, MOTIONS, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THESE SPECIFIC ITEM.
UM, SO THE FIRST ONE I'D LIKE TO CALL UP IS MR. CHRIS TUCKER.
WHICH ONE ARE WE LOOKING AT? UH, WELL,
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SEVEN A SIX A SEVEN A.SO YOU ALSO HAVE SEVEN A SO THAT'S WHY I GOT YOU UP HERE.
UH, I HAVE A, UH, SMALL BUSINESS, WHICH IT GETS, BY THE WAY, IT'S ONE OF THE FEW ONES THAT GETS, UH, AFFECTED THE MOST BY THE CONSTRUCTION, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT IS PROGRESS.
UM, AS A FULL DISCLOSURE, I'M ON THE EDC, IT WAS PREVIOUSLY ON THE EDC.
I'M NOT SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE EDC, I'M SPEAKING AS FOR, AS FOR MYSELF IN MY PARTICULAR CASE.
UH, THE NATURE OF MY, MY BUSINESS, THIS IS ALL SERVICES, SO IT DOESN'T AFFECT ME WHETHER THERE'S LESS OR MORE MONEY, THAT KIND OF STUFF.
SO I'VE GOT NO DOG IN THE FIGHT.
I, UM, I BELIEVE IN THE EDCI, LIKE I SAID, I WAS ON IT BEFORE, UM, CHOSE TO COME BACK BECAUSE I DO THINK WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES HERE IN DICKINSON AND THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS WE CAN DO TO MAKE THIS WORK.
IT'S GOING TO BE SOME TOUGH TIMES TO GET PAST SOME OF THE, THE THINGS THAT HAVE OCCURRED PREVIOUSLY.
UH, LONG STORY SHORT, ADC IS YOUR BEST AVENUE FOR GETTING MONEY TO FEED YOUR CITY.
IT'S BASED OFF THE SALES TAX AND SO SOME PEOPLE ARE WANTING TO USE IT IN GENERAL, UM, GENERAL ITEMS OR FOR A ROAD OR A STREET AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.
WE'RE LIMITED ON HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE, SO WE HAVE TO BE SMART ABOUT HOW WE DO IT AND WHY WE DO IT.
UM, I AGREE WITH PEOPLE THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENED EARLIER, BUT WE CANNOT CHANGE THAT.
WE JUST HAVE TO LOOK FORWARD AND WE HAVE TO BE SMART ABOUT IT AND WE DON'T, IF WE'RE GONNA INVEST HER MONEY, WE, WE NEED TO RETURN ON THE, IN THE INVESTMENT JUST LIKE ANY OTHER BUSINESS IN THE WORLD.
SO I AM FOR THE EDC, I DO NOT THINK WE SHOULD MODIFY IT AND REDUCE THE AMOUNT.
QUITE HONESTLY, THE AMOUNT THAT IS AT CURRENTLY, UH, THE CITY'S ALREADY HAD ALREADY DIVIDED THAT PREVIOUSLY, SO WE'VE ALREADY BEEN CUT DOWN, BUT THIS IS THE ONE THAT'S GONNA GENERATE THE MONEY THAT YOU NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, THE CITY.
SO AS MUCH AS I WANT A NEW STREET, AS MUCH AS I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME OTHER THINGS HAPPEN, WE DO NOT GET A RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR A NEW, A NEW ROAD.
WE DO GET IT FROM THE, FROM THE EDC WHEN WE'RE SMART, WE GO LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES AND THEY ARE OUT THERE AND WE CAN DO IT.
WE JUST HAVE TO STAY FOCUSED AND MOVE FORWARD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
UH, NEXT UP I GOT MR. DEREK CORICK.
UM, I'M CURRENTLY, UH, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE EDC, ALTHOUGH, UH, AND THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE CHRIS, I'M NOT SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE EDC.
I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MYSELF.
UM, AND SO, UH, JUST A FEW THOUGHTS I'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU.
SEVERAL YEARS AGO, UM, I ATTENDED A CAN CANDIDATE FORUM WHERE THE BUDGET WAS DISCUSSED.
AND, UM, WHAT STOOD OUT TO ME WAS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE BUDGET'S VERY THIN AND, UM, WE'RE HEAVILY RELIANT ON RESIDENTIAL TAXES AND THERE'S A DEC THERE'S A DECLINE IN, UM, IN, UH, SALES TAX REVENUE.
SO IT WAS CLEAR THAT IF WE DIDN'T GROW THE, UH, COMMERCE AND RETAIL BASE RESIDENTS WOULD CONTINUE TO CARRY MOST OF THAT TAX BURDEN.
AROUND THE SAME TIME I STARTED HEARING ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES LIKE PARKVIEW BAYOU VILLAGE, ALONG WITH OTHER EFFORTS AIMED AT ATTRACTING INVESTMENT RETAIL AND JOBS.
AND I, I FOUND THAT ENCOURAGING.
UM, I FELT LIKE DICKINSON HAD A REAL OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE TRA THE TRAJECT TRA TRAJECTORY AND STOP, UH, EXPORTING DOLLARS TO OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES.
THAT COMBINATION IS WHAT LED ME TO START ATTENDING
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EDC AND CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND EVENTUALLY TO GET INVOLVED.SINCE JOINING THE EDC, I'VE LEARNED THAT, UH, THE SALES TAX TRENDS CONTINUE TO MOVE IN THEIR OWN DIRECTION, AND IN FACT, IT'S ACCELERATING FOR ME THAT REINFORCES THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING EFFECTIVE COORDINATED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN PLACE.
I'VE ALSO LEARNED HOW LARGER DEVELOPERS AND INVESTORS EVALUATE CITIES.
THEY LOOK FOR STABILITY, ALIGNMENT, UM, AND INSTITUTIONS THAT FUNCTION AS INTENDED ACTIONS LIKE DISSOLVING AN EDC SIGNAL UNCERTAINTY AND INSTABILITY, AND MAKE IT HARDER TO ATTRACT THE SCALE OF PRIVATE INVESTMENT NEEDED TO DELIVER THE KINDS OF PROJECTS THE CITY NEEDS.
I KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT BELIEVE THE EDC HASN'T ALWAYS DONE THINGS RIGHT AND I THINK THAT'S FAIR ENOUGH, BUT ABOLISHING THE EDC DOESN'T FIX THE PAST AND IT DOESN'T CREATE A BETTER FUTURE.
REALLOCATING THE SALES TAX MAY ADDRESS THE SHORT TERM BUDGET GAP TEMPORARILY, BUT IT DOESN'T CREATE A PATH TO GROW OR REVERSAL LONG TERM, UH, REVENUE TRENDS.
ITS VALUE DEPENDS ON HOW WELL IT'S USED AND HOW CLEARLY IT'S DIRECTED IT.
IF IMPROVEMENTS ARE NEEDED AND THEY CERTAINLY ARE, THEN THE ANSWER IS TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, NOT TO DISCARD THE TOOL ALTOGETHER.
IN MY VIEW, THE BEST OUTCOME FOR DICKINSON IS ONE WHERE THE CITY COUNCIL, THE EDC AND THE MANAGEMENT DISTRICT WERE TOGETHER AS DESIGNED WITH SHARED PRIORITIES AND CONSISTENT SIGNAL THAT THE CITY'S COMMITTED TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND LONG-TERM FINANCIAL HEALTH.
I GOT INVOLVED BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN THE POTENTIAL OF, UH, DICKINSON AND I BELIEVE THE RIGHT ANSWER HERE IS TO FIX, ALIGN AND MOVE FORWARD TOGETHER.
ALRIGHT, I GOT, UH, NEXT UP IS MR. CHRIS MILLER.
MY NAME IS CHRIS MILLER MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND FELLOW RESIDENTS AT DICKINSON.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO LET ME SPEAK TONIGHT.
MAYOR IS A CITIZEN WHO DEEPLY CARES ABOUT THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY.
DICKINSON IS A COMMUNITY WITH STRONG NEIGHBORHOODS, GOOD SCHOOLS, AND STRATEGIC LOCATION IN GALVESTON COUNTY, WHAT WE LACK IS NOT POTENTIAL IT'S RESULTS.
AND NOWHERE IS THAT GAP MORE VISIBLE THAN THE PERFORMANCE OF OUR EDC.
THE CORE MISSION OF THE EDC IS SIMPLE, GROW THE LOCAL ECONOMY, EXPAND THE SALES TAX BASE, AND RECRUIT BUSINESSES THAT CREATE JOBS AND REVENUE.
YEAR AFTER YEAR, OUR CELL GROWS T LAGS BEHIND NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE SIMILAR ADVANTAGES.
WE CONTINUE TO LOSE RETAIL, DINING AND SERVICE OPPORTUNITIES NEARBY CITIES WHILE DICKINSON RESIDENTS SPEND THEIR MONEY ELSEWHERE.
THIS IS NOT JUST AN INCONVENIENCE, IT'S A STRUCTURAL FAILURE THAT AFFECTS CITY SERVICES, IT INFRASTRUCTURE AND OUR ABILITY TO KEEP OUR PROPERTY TAXES UNDER CONTROL.
TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS NOT AN ATTACK ON THE, ON THE COMMITTEE.
MANY OF THEM VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME AND CARE ABOUT THE CITY, BUT THE GOOD INTENTIONS ARE NOT THE SAME AS EFFECTIVE GOVERNANCE.
IF AN ORGANIZATION CONSISTENTLY FAILS TO DELIVER MEASURABLE OUTCOMES, IT IS REASONABLE AND NECESSARY TO QUESTION WHETHER THE STRUCTURE, LEADERSHIP AND EXPECTATIONS ARE WORKING.
SOME MAY ARGUE, ARGUE THAT DISSOLVING THE EDCS TOO DRASTIC OR THAT THE ECONOMIC CONDITIONS BEYOND ITS CONTROL OR TO BLAME.
I UNDERSTAND THAT CONCERN, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS NOT EASY AND NO COMMITTEE CAN FORCE BUSINESS TO COME TO DICKINSON, BUT THAT CANNOT BE A PERMANENT EX A PERMANENT EXCUSE FOR INACTION OR UNDER PERFORMANCE.
IF THE EDC CANNOT BE DISSOLVED, THEN IT MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FIRST.
THE CITY SHOULD ADOPT CLEAR PUBLIC PERFORMANCE METRICS SUCH AS YEAR OVER YEAR SALES, TAX GROWTH TARGETS, NUMBER OF BUSINESS LEADS PURSUED AND OR SUCCESSFUL RELOCATIONS AND EXPANSIONS OF BUSINESSES WITHIN CITY LIMITS.
SECOND BOARD MEMBERS SHOULD BE TIED TO PERFORMANCE REGULAR EVALUATIONS AND THE ABILITY FOR COUNCIL TO REPLACE UNDERPERFORMING MEMBERS MUST BE MORE THAN JUST A THEORETICAL.
THIRD, TRANSPARENCY MUST IMPROVE RESIDENTS DESERVE PLAIN LANGUAGE REPORTS EXPLAINING WHAT THE EDC IS DOING, HOW FUNDS ARE BEING SPENT, AND WHY RESULTS ARE OR ARE NOT MANIFESTING.
FINALLY, THE EDC MUST DIRECT MUST BE DIRECTED TO COMPETE AGGRESSIVELY.
OTHER CITIES ARE WINNING BUSINESS.
DICKINSON SHOULD BE ASKING WHY AND ADJUSTING ACCORDINGLY.
THIS CITY DESERVES AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY THAT PROVIDES RESULTS, NOT JUST MEETINGS, WHETHER THROUGH REFORM OR RESTRUCTURING THE STATUS QUO IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
ACCOUNTABILITY IS NOT A PUNISHMENT, IT'S STEWARDSHIP.
AND DICKINSON'S FUTURE IS TOO IMPORTANT FOR ANYTHING LESS.
I'D LIKE TO LEAD YOU WITH THE QUOTE, A SOCIETY GROWS GREAT WHEN OLD MEN PLANT OLD MEN, PLANT TREES WHO SHADE, THEY SHALL NEVER SIT.
THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY WITH A BRAND NEW BOARD TO MAKE MEASURABLE METRICS.
SO INSTEAD OF JUST TALK, WE HAVE SOMETHING TO GO TO WHERE WE CAN MEASURE SUCCESS.
IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR GROWTH AND I THINK THE CITY AND ESPECIALLY THE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD
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TAKE ACTION AND LET'S DO IT.ALRIGHT, UH, NEXT UP I GOT, UH, MR. CALLEN, UM, I DON'T WANT TO BUTCHER YOUR LAST NAME, SO WE'RE JUST GONNA CALL YOU CALLEN
I SO AS THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE EDC BOARD SAID, UM, JUST FOR, UH, CLARITY, I AM ALSO A MEMBER OF THE BOARD.
UM, HOWEVER, I'M SPEAKING AS A RESIDENT OF THE CITY.
I AM ASKING THAT YOU MAINTAIN THE EDC AS IT EXISTS CURRENTLY AND THAT THE COUNCIL INSTEAD ENGAGE MORE DEEPLY WITH THE EDC THROUGH TOWN HALLS, JOINT WORKSHOPS AND OR RETREATS TO ENSURE THE EDC MEETS THE COUNCIL'S GOALS.
THE CITY FACES REVENUE CONSTRAINTS THAT NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE CITY'S ABILITY TO MAINTAIN INFRASTRUCTURE.
WHILE THE CONCERNS ARE VALID, THE MESSAGING THAT HAS LED TO THIS PROPOSAL IS MISINFORMED.
THERE HAVE BEEN MISSTEPS OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.
HOWEVER, THE EDC IS NOW DELIVERING ON ANCHOR PROJECTS AS DISCUSSED IN THE LAST EDC STAFF UPDATE.
AND AS MANY OF US COULD SEE, DRIVING TO CITY HALL TODAY, ELS'S HEADQUARTERS IS NEARING COMPLETION.
THAT'S AN ANCHOR PROJECT THAT THERE IS PHYSICAL EVIDENCE IS BEING COMPLETED.
UH, THAT'S AN EDC PROJECT THAT IS, UH, NEARING COMPLETION.
ADDITIONALLY MENTIONED WAS PARKVIEW.
AND THAT PROJECT, WHICH IS VERY CLOSE TO BREAKING GROUND, WE WERE TOLD LAST WEEK, WILL ALSO ADD A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF VALUE TO THE TAX BASE THAT'LL BOOST BOTH CITY AND SCHOOL DISTRICT REVENUES.
NOT TO MENTION THE OTHER TAXING DISTRICTS THAT IT SITS WITHIN ALREADY.
THE PROGRESS OF THESE ANCHOR PROJECTS HAVE BEGUN TO ENCOURAGE ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT.
WE CAN SEE THIS PHYSICALLY WITH THE NEARING COMPLETION OF QUICKTRIP AND ZIEGLER'S.
I PASSED THOSE BOTH ON MY WAY HERE AS WELL.
UM, AND THERE'S ADDITIONAL WORK UNDERWAY IN THE SHOPPING CENTERS ON BOTH SIDES OF 45 TO BRING BUSINESSES IN.
AS THE LAND TO THE WEST OF DICKINSON, UH, IS DEVELOPED, WHICH WE KNOW THROUGH REPORTING IN THE DAILY NEWS, THERE'S GONNA BE ANYWHERE FROM 10, PROBABLY CLOSER TO 15,000 HOMES, AGAIN JUST TO THE WEST OF DICKINSON.
UM, DICKINSON WILL BE A NATURAL PLACE FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT TO SERVE THOSE HOMES.
KEEPING THE EDC INTACT AS IT IS, WILL ENABLE THE CITY TO VERY AGGRESSIVELY RECRUIT BUSINESSES AHEAD OF AND DURING THIS COMING LAND RUSH.
THAT'S IMPORTANT TO DO VERY AGGRESSIVELY NOW BECAUSE WHEN STATE HIGHWAY 99 THE GRAND PARKWAY COMES IN, BUSINESS WILL NATURALLY GO THERE.
SO WE HAVE TO BE AGGRESSIVE NOW TO BRING THAT TO DICKINSON.
THE PROPOSAL TO ABOLISH THE EDC PROVIDES A TEMPORARY ARTIFICIAL BOOST TO THE CITY'S FINANCES, BUT DOES NOT SOLVE THE STRUCTURAL REVENUE PROBLEM THE CITY FACES IN THE COMING DECADE.
SALES TAX REVENUE WITHIN THE CITY IS DECLINING, AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, AND HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AT LENGTH IN EDC MEETINGS RECENTLY.
SIMPLY MOVING AN ALREADY DECLINING NUMBER INTO THE GENERAL REVENUE FUND IS JUST A BANDAID SOLUTION AND IT DOES NOT SOLVE THIS PROBLEM FOR FUTURE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY AND THE FUTURE GENERATIONS THAT INHERIT THIS CITY.
THE EDC IS A VERY POWERFUL TOOL.
ELIMINATING IT WILL ONLY DEFER THE PROBLEM THAT EXISTS NOW FOR A FEW YEARS IN THE HOPE THAT THE WINDS WILL CHANGE DIRECTION.
I DON'T BELIEVE THOUGH THAT WE CAN GAMBLE THIS CITY'S FUTURE.
WE HAVE TO TAKE DECISIVE ACTION NOW TO RIGHT THE SHIP AGAIN, I IMPLORE YOU INSTEAD OF ELIMINATING THE EDC, UH, TO WORK WITH US TO ACHIEVE THE GOAL OF PHYSICAL, PHYSICAL SUSTAINABILITY FOR THE CITY AND ESTABLISH GOALS AND METRICS THAT WE CAN WORK TO AND CAN BE OBJECTIVELY MONITORED IN ORDER TO RIGHT THE SHIP.
AND THEN, UH, THE LAST ONE I HAVE FOR THIS ITEM IS KAITLYN MCMILLAN.
UM, SHE IS ACTUALLY IS, UH, STAFF FOR THE CITY, BUT I THINK SHE HAS A COUPLE, UH, WAS IT QUOTE OR MESSAGES FROM OTHER INDIVIDUALS THAT COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT? YES.
UM, MY NAME'S CAITLYN MCMILLAN, IF I HAVEN'T MET ALL OF YOU ALREADY.
I'M THE MARKETING AND COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER FOR THE DICKINSON EDC.
UM, THE FIRST STATEMENT I'M GONNA READ IS BEHALF ON LINDSEY REYES, WHO IS ONE OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS.
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GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.I SINCERELY APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO BE THERE TONIGHT IN PERSON.
I HAD A PRIOR WORK ENGAGEMENT THAT I COULD NOT MISS.
I DO WANT TO LOBBY ON BEHALF OF THE EDC, SO I HAVE ASKED CAITLYN TO GET THIS MESSAGE TO YOU ON MY BEHALF.
I KNOW THAT MY INVOLVEMENT WITH THE EDC IS VERY NEW, BUT I HAVE SEEN SOME VERY POSITIVE THINGS IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS AND I THINK THAT YOU WOULD BE DOING THE CITY OF DICKINSON A HUGE DISSERVICE IF YOU WERE TO ACT TO RESOLVE OR REDUCE EDC RESOURCES.
I HAVE OVER 21 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN LAND PLANNING IN THE GREATER HOUSTON AREA AND HAVE SPENT YEARS HELPING DEVELOPERS SELECT SITES TO DEVELOP, HELPING THEM DECIDE WHERE TO PUT THEIR COMMERCIAL AREAS VERSUS SINGLE FAMILY.
THIS ALSO INCLUDES DECIDING WHETHER A CITY WAS WORTH DEVELOPING IN.
SO I FEEL PRETTY EQUIPPED TO TALK ABOUT THESE ITEMS. I THINK THE MAYOR PUT IT BEST WHEN HE DESCRIBED THE EDC AS OUR CITY'S 401K.
WE TAKE THE TINY PORTION OF EACH SALES TAX DOLLAR AND INVEST IT IN DICKINSON'S FUTURE.
I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT TAKING THAT MONEY AND PUTTING IT INTO THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND, BUT BY DOING THAT, YOU REMOVE THE EDCS OPTION TO INVEST THAT MONEY AS NEEDED.
YOU OPEN THAT MONEY UP TO BEING SPENT IN WAYS THAT DO NOT HELP THE ECONOMIC FUTURE OF THE CITY.
AND IF WE DO NOT INVEST IN SALES TAX GENERATING BUSINESSES NOW, OUR CITY WILL HAVE NO ECONOMIC FUTURE DOING THIS WOULD REMOVE THOSE FUNDS FROM THE 401K AND PUT THEM INTO A CHECKING ACCOUNT TO BE USED FOR ANYTHING THAT MIGHT COME UP.
THERE IS CURRENTLY A LARGE DEVELOPER READY TO INVEST $450 MILLION IN OUR CITY, BUT THEY'RE WAITING UNTIL TONIGHT TO SEE HOW YOU VOTE.
IF YOU VOTE TO MOVE TOWARDS ED, THE EDCS DISSOLUTION, THEY WILL PULL THEIR INTEREST AND MOVE TO ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES THAT ARE INTERESTED IN INVESTING IN THEIR FUTURE.
NO DEVELOPER WILL INVEST IN A CITY THAT WON'T INVEST IN ITSELF AND WE WILL END UP WITH A RECURRENCE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND LOW-END RETAIL THAT WON'T ADD TO THE CITY'S SALES TAX REVENUE.
MR. FUNK HAS A VERY GOOD GRASP ON THE KIND OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD BRING HUGE ECONOMIC IMPROVEMENTS TO DICKSON.
THAT'S THE OVERALL PROJECTED, UH, PROJECT AND IS TRYING HIS HARDEST TO BRING THOSE DEVELOPMENTS HERE AND WORK WITH BAD DECISIONS MADE IN THE PAST.
BUT THE ACTIONS THIS COUNCIL TAKES TONIGHT WILL EITHER MAKE OR BREAK THOSE EFFORTS.
DON'T DISSOLVE THE EDC BASED ON PAST MEMBERS AND EMPLOYEES.
GIVE THIS NEW BOARD A CHANCE AND GIVE MR. FUNK A CHANCE TO REVITALIZE DICKINSON'S ECONOMICS.
THIS IS THE FUTURE OF OUR GREAT CITY.
HELP US MAKE THIS WRONG PAGE CITY SOMETHING OUR CHILDREN CAN BE PROUD OF.
WHEN SOMEBODY ASKS WHERE THEY'RE FROM, NOT SOMETHING THEY WILL HIDE.
THIS IS NOT A ONE TIME CONVERSATION.
YOU HAVE THE POWER TO BRING THIS TO THE TABLE AT ANY POINT IN THE FUTURE.
GIVE THE EDCA YEAR OR MORE TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO AND LET'S DISCUSS AGAIN IN 2027.
YOU HAVE THE POWER TO APPROVE OR NOT APPROVE EVERY DECISION THE EDC MAKES ANYWAY, SO WHY NOT WAIT AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO? WHAT'S THE RUSH TO MAKE THIS DECISION TONIGHT? WE HAVE A NEW BOARD WITH NEW MEMBERS THAT TRULY WANNA SEE DICKINSON THRIVE.
WE ARE PUTTING IN THE WORK AND HAVE A GREAT AND APPLICABLE KNOWLEDGE BASE THAT THE, THAT CAN ONLY HELP THE CITY.
AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING THERE IN PERSON.
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO ME AT ANY TIME WITH QUESTIONS.
DO THE RIGHT THING FOR THE CITY AND LET THE EDC PROVE THAT WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION.
ALRIGHT, THE NEXT ONE I HAVE IS FROM OUR BOARD PRESIDENT PATRICK SPIES.
DEAR MA DEAR MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF DICKINSON CITY COUNCIL, MY NAME IS PATRICK SPIES AND I CURRENTLY SERVE AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE DICKINSON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.
I'M WRITING TO RESPECTFULLY ASK THE CITY COUNCIL, ALLOW THE EDC UNDER ITS CURRENT LEADERSHIP THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE ITS WORK IN SUPPORTING AND EXPANDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITHIN OUR CITY.
I RECENTLY HAD A CONVERSATION WITH COUNCILMAN SCHRADER AND I ASKED DIRECTLY, WHAT ARE A FEW CONCERNS YOU HAVE OBSERVED WITH THE EDC? HE COMMUNICATED SEVERAL CONCERNS, INCLUDING ISSUES RELATED TO TRANSPARENCY, COMMUNICATION, AND POTENTIAL CONFLICTS OF INTEREST INVOLVING SERVICES.
AND I AGREE THAT CONCERNS OF THIS NATURE CAN ERODE TRUST WITHIN ANY COMMITTEE OR ORGANIZATION IF THEY ARE NOT ADDRESSED DIRECTLY AND OPENLY WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING, I AM ASKED, I'M ASKING FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEMONSTRATE CLEAR AND CONSISTENT COMMUNICATION AND TO OPERATE WITH FULL TRANSPARENCY MOVING FORWARD.
TRUST IS FOUNDATIONAL TO ANY RELATIONSHIP AND FOUNDATIONAL TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
RELATIONSHIPS WITH DEVELOPERS ARE CRITICAL AND OPEN, WELL-DOCUMENTED.
COMMUNICATION IS ESSENTIAL TO ENSURING THAT THOSE RELATIONSHIPS ARE PROFESSIONAL, ETHICAL, AND FREE FROM CONFLICTS OF INTEREST, TRANSPARENCY IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO PREVENT MISUNDERSTANDINGS AND TO MAINTAIN ACCOUNTABILITY.
I'M ASKING THE COUNCIL TO GIVE A CHANCE WITH FULL BUDGET TO GET THIS RIGHT AND BRING DEVELOPMENT TO OUR CITY.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS NOT AN OVERNIGHT PROCESS.
IT REQUIRES STABILITY, CONSISTENCY, AND TIME TO BUILD RELATIONSHIPS, IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES, AND CARRY INITIATIVES THROUGH TO COMPLETION.
AGAIN, I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE CITY COUNCIL TO GIVE THE EDC UNDER CURRENT LEADERSHIP, THE CHANCE TO SHOW PROGRESS, REBUILD CONFIDENCE WHERE NEEDED, AND DELIVER RESULTS THAT BENEFIT THE CITY OF DICKINSON.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, SERVICE AND CONSIDERATION.
I APPRECIATE YOUR CONTINUED DEDICATION TO OUR COMMUNITY AND LOOK
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FORWARD TO WORKING COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE CITY COUNCIL TO STRENGTHEN DICKINSON'S ECONOMIC FUTURE.ALRIGHT, THAT IS ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT I HAVE FOR THIS ITEM.
UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOVE TO APPROVE? I GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE.
DO I HAVE A SECOND, UH, LAST CALL FOR A SECOND.
DO I HAVE ANOTHER MOTION? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE SAME ITEM, SIR? YEP.
WELL, IF, IF THERE'S, WELL, IT DIDN'T FAIL IT, IT WASN'T A VOTE, SO IT IT CORRECT.
SO DO I HAVE A MOTION THAT ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE? IF NOT FOREVER WITHHOLD YOURSELF AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO SEVEN B, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION ORDERING A SPECIAL ELECTION TO BE HELD ON SATURDAY MAY 2ND, 2026 FOR THE PURPOSE OF SUBMITTING TO THE VOTERS PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENTS FOR THEIR APPROVAL.
[7.B RESOLUTION NO. XXXX-2026 - Consideration and possible action to approve a resolution ordering a Special Election to be held on Saturday, May 2, 2026, for the purpose of submitting to the voters proposed charter amendments for their approval.]
UM, AND I DO HAVE ONE, UH, INDIVIDUAL TO COME TALK AND THAT IS MS. DAWN KING.BEFORE THIS CLOSES, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SERVE ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.
YOU CHOSE A GREAT TEAM AND WE WORKED VERY WELL TOGETHER.
WE WORKED HARD TO CREATE A DURABLE DOCUMENT THAT CAN SERVE THE COMMUNITY FOR MANY YEARS.
I ALSO WANTED TO THANK MR. DO FOR CREATING AN ELEGANT AND EASY TO UNDERSTAND LANGUAGE FROM OUR, LET'S JUST SAY, ROBUST CONVERSATIONS.
IT'S EASY TO READ, BEAUTIFULLY WRITTEN, AND, UM, I'M, I'M VERY GRATEFUL TO HIM FOR HIS WORK.
ALSO, I WANNA THANK KIMBERLY WALLER FOR HER GREAT JOB ON THE MINUTES.
THAT WASN'T EASY EITHER AND SHE DID A FANTASTIC JOB FOR US AND, UM, I HOPE YOU ENJOY, UH, AND YOU LIKED OUR, UH, END PRODUCT AS MUCH AS WE DID, SO THANK YOU AGAIN.
AND THEN, SO DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR SEVEN B? CAN I, UH, MAYOR? YEP.
I MOVE TO DIVIDE THE QUESTION.
SO IN INDIVIDUAL ITEMS, BASICALLY? YEP.
IS THERE ANY WAY TO PULL UP, UH, ALL OF THEM ON THE SCREEN OF ALL THE DIFFERENT, UH, AMENDMENTS THAT WE CAN GO DOWN ITEM BY ITEM SO EVERYBODY ELSE CAN SEE IT? MR. JONES, DOES THAT REQUIRE A VOTE? YES.
A MOTION TO DIVIDE THE QUESTION.
OKAY, SO I GOT A MOTION TO DIVIDE.
ANY OPPOSED? MAYOR, I I HAD SOME, I WANTED TO DISCUSS WHO'S SECOND THAT, UH, SCOTT.
SCOTT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER SCHRADER DID.
AND, UH, WE'RE DIVIDING THE QUESTION THIS'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA INDIVIDUALLY, EACH ONE RIGHT ITEM.
JUST I GUESS FOR ROBERT'S RULE OF ORDER, HYPOTHETICALLY, IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO PUT A MOTION ON NAMING LIKE SOME OF THE ONES THAT ARE JUST CLEAN UP TO GET THEM OUT THE WAY, WOULD THAT STILL BE AN ORDER NOW THAT WE, IF WE DIVIDE THE QUESTION? UH, YES, THAT WOULD BE FINE.
BECAUSE THE DIVISION OF THE QUESTION HASN'T SPECIFIED EXACTLY HOW WE, HOW THIS QUESTION WILL BE DIVIDED UP.
SHALL THE CHARTER BE AMENDED TO LOWER THE AFFIRMATIVE VOTE REQUIREMENT FROM FIVE TO FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO DIS ANNEX TERRITORY FROM THE CITY LIMITS.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE PROPOSITIONS.
A-B-D-E-F-G-H-I-N-K-E SHALL THE CHART.
CAN YOU NARROW THIS DOWN? YEAH.
CAN YOU ZOOM OUT? WE DON'T NEED THIS BIG THERE.
IT'S SHALL THE E IS SHALL THE CHARTER? WELL, I CAN, I'LL JUST, I CAN READ IT.
THE ONES THAT YOU MOTIONED IF YOU NEED ME TO, IF Y'ALL WANT ME TO.
A IS TO LOWER THE QUORUM FROM FIVE TO FOUR.
B CLARIFIES WHAT IT MEANS TO BE COUNSEL.
UH, D CLARIFIES THE PAYMENT LANGUAGE.
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UH, MANDATES WHEN WE ELECT A MAYOR PRO TIM F UH, REMOVES THE REDUNDANT AND CONFLICTING.F AND THEN, UH, G IS, IS THE MEETINGS THE QUORUM? YEAH, THE QUORUM.
AGAIN, H IS PASSAGE OF ORDINANCE IN GENERAL.
I IS, UH, THE CITY MANAGER APPOINTED FOR AN INDEFINITE TERM STRIKE.
AND THEN KAY IS, UM, THE MUNICIPAL COURT.
BUT, UM, I, I, I, I DIDN'T MEAN TO NO, THAT'S RIGHT.
THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, CAN YOU SCROLL UP A LITTLE BIT TO ABOVE F MR. SIMPSON? I THINK, UH, FOR CLARIFICATION, A HAS TO DO WITH THIS, THIS ANNEXATION FROM FIVE TO FOUR VERSUS THE QUORUM.
YEAH, I WAS, I I JUST SAW THE STRIKE OUT OF FIVE AND WENT TO FOUR.
UM, I'LL, I'LL REMOVE A FROM MY MOTION.
AND SO WHEN YOU, UH, PROPOSITION F THAT IS JUST CONFLICTING LANGUAGE, WHAT EXACTLY IS THE LANGUAGE? YOU KNOW WHAT I WANT TO, I WANNA PULL F OKAY.
I'M, I'M, I'M, I WAS TYPING TOO FAST.
SO, B, D, E, G, H, I AND K, THOSE ARE MOSTLY ADMINISTRATIVE, UHHUH,
AND WERE JUST UPDATING WORDS AND EXPLAINING CERTAIN THINGS.
SO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE B-D-E-G-H-I AND K AS A COLLECTIVE.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? I HAVE A SECOND.
DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSIONS THROUGH THOSE ITEMS SPECIFICALLY? YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION ON D.
UH, THE PREVIOUS WORDING ON THE, UH, THE PAYMENT TO THE, OR THE STIPEND, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT TO THE COUNSEL SAID THEY SHALL BE PAID.
IS THAT LANGUAGE STILL IN THERE? HOW'S THE LANGUAGE REWRITTEN ON THAT? WHAT THEY DO IS GET RID OF THE $75 MEETING.
JUST MAKE IT A SMOOTH ONE 50 A MONTH.
YOU'RE STILL LIMITED TO $1,800 A YEAR, WHICH I DON'T EVEN THINK WE GOT THIS YEAR.
UH, BY THE IRS DUB THEY SENT TO THE HOUSE.
BUT ALL THEY DID WAS, INSTEAD OF, THEY PLAYED GAMES WITH THE WAY THEY DID THE AGENDAS, SO THEY MIGHT SAY IT'S A, THE CHARTER SET A REGULAR MEETING.
WELL, THEY WOULD PUT SPECIAL IN THERE AND THEY PLAYED WITH THE GAME SO THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO GIVE YOU THE MONEY WHAT THEY DID.
SO ALL THEY'RE DOING IS CLARIFYING.
YOU JUST GET, YOU STILL GET $75 A MEETING.
THEY JUST, NOW IT'S 150 A MONTH AND IT'S, IT'S DONE WITH, AND YOU CAN'T GET MORE THAN A HUNDRED, 1800 A YEAR.
BUT, BUT TO ADDRESS YOUR SPECIFIC QUESTION, YES.
THE WORD SHALL STILL REMAINS IN THERE.
I THINK IT MAKES IT EASIER ON FINANCE TOO.
THEY CAN JUST PUT AUTOMATIC PAYMENTS IN THERE AND NEVER HAVE TO TOUCH IT MONTHLY.
WELL, HERE'S MY CONCERN ON THAT, JUST FOR DISCUSSION.
UH, I'VE BEEN TOLD I HAVE TO TAKE THAT MONEY.
I DON'T, I DON'T TAKE THAT MONEY.
I'VE NEVER FILLED OUT THE FORM.
SO AM I VIOLATING THE CHARTER BY NOT RECEIVING THAT MONEY? THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO KNOW.
WE YOU AND SO YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT, THOUGH, TO TAKE THE MONEY AND THEN DONATE IT OR WRITE BACK WHETHER IT'S A, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE, I I'M JUST SAYING, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE VIOLATING ANYTHING.
I JUST KNOW THAT'S, I JUST DON'T WANNA BE VIOLATING THE CHARTER.
AND I KNOW THERE'S PEOPLE THAT ARE RUNNING, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THEY SAY THEY DON'T CARE TO ACCEPT THE MONEY EITHER.
I'VE TALKED TO 'EM ABOUT THAT.
SO I JUST, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THAT.
I DON'T WANT SOMEBODY TO SAY, WELL, YOU'RE VIOLATING THE CHARTER.
CAN WE CHANGE IT TO, TO MAY, IT MAY RECEIVE INSTEAD OF SHALL RECEIVE.
TO ME, WHEN YOU WORD IT LIKE THAT, IT'S SAYING IT'S MANDATORY.
AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM PUTTING THIS FOR THE VOTERS, BUT I JUST, I DON'T WANNA VIOLATE THE CHARTER AT THE SAME TIME.
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CHANGING IT TO MAY THEN KIND OF OPENS UP.AND THE NEED FOR CLARIFICATION OF WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT, WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO RECEIVE, YOU MAY RECEIVE IT, YOU KNOW, UPON REQUEST.
OR IF YOU DON'T FILE SOMETHING IN WRITING, REFUSING THE PAYMENTS, AS I KNOW HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAST.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE KIND OF TRICKY TO WORK.
CAN WE? WELL, I THINK THE SHALL COVERS ANYTHING INTO FUTURE, NOT JUST OUR SPECIFIC SITUATIONS.
SO SHALL KEEPS IT, I GUESS, VERY BROAD ACROSS, NO MATTER WHO'S ON COUNCIL.
IT DIDN'T SAY YOU'RE REQUIRED TO ACCEPT REMITTANCE.
IF IT NEVER GETS TO YOU, IT NEVER GETS TO, YOU CHOOSE TO NOT RECEIVE IT.
I DON'T THINK THAT VIOLATES THE CHARTER.
I THINK IT SUGGESTS TO CLAIM THE LANGUAGES SHALL BE ABLE TO RECEIVE.
I THINK THAT'S JUST A, I THINK IT'S A, UM, I DON'T, HONESTLY, I DON'T DON'T, THERE'S A POINT ANYBODY'S GONNA CARE ABOUT NEEDS TO CHANGE, BUT, UM, I, I, I DON'T TAKE THE STIPEND ACTUALLY DIDN'T ACTUALLY, I DID AN AFFIDAVIT SAYING I DON'T, I DON'T TAKE THE STIPEND.
I FEEL LIKE WE JUST KEEP IT AS SHALL AND THEN YOU CAN RE MINUTE IT IF YOU WANT TO, YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU NEED TO.
BUT IT, IT COVERS THE LANGUAGE ACROSS.
IF, IF SOMEONE'S NOT IN THE SAME POSITION WHERE WE DON'T, LIKE, IF I DON'T WANT IT, THEN I WANNA DECIDE THAT, UM, DON'T LET THE CITY DECIDE THAT.
BUT I, I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR US TO BE LIKE, I DON'T NEED IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS ABOUT THE, THE CURRENT MOTION, WHICH IS TO APPROVE B-D-E-G-H-I-N-K.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ALRIGHT, SO NOW WE WILL GO TO A, SHALL THE CHARTER BE AMENDED TO FOLLOW THE AFFIRMATIVE VOTE, UH, REQUIRED FROM FIVE TO FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO DIS ANNEX TERRITORY FROM THE CITY LIMITS.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? MOVE TO APPROVE.
UH, IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ABOUT THIS? I GUESS MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS IS BECAUSE WE ARE UPDATING OUR QUORUM, YOU REALLY DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO HAVE THINGS NOT ALIGNED.
IS THAT PART OF, I'M ASSUMING WHY THIS WAS CHANGED? UH, ACTUALLY NO.
UH, FIVE, FOUR OF SEVEN IS A MAJORITY MM-HMM
IN ORDER TO ENACT, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE STUFF THAT THE COUNCIL DOES.
AND SO THERE WAS JUST THE THOUGHT THAT, UH, THE DESIRE TO DIS XANAX TERRITORY SHOULDN'T REQUIRE A SUPER MAJORITY.
WHICH FIVE OF SEVEN WOULD BE, VERSUS A SIMPLE MAJORITY KEEP EVERYTHING COPACETIC.
BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT REQUIRE MORE THAN A, A, A SIMPLE MAJORITY TO GET DONE.
RIGHT? LIKE SALES TAX, I MEAN, NOT SALES TAX, PROPERTY TAX.
AND SO THERE ARE THINGS, UH, ACTUALLY THOSE ARE THE, THE, THE MAIN DIFFERENCE.
UH, ANOTHER, THE CHARTER IS THAT, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL CAN ADOPT THOSE ORDINANCES ON, UH, ONCE AND ONLY READING, BUT THERE'S NOT, UH, ADDITIONAL VOTE REQUIREMENTS ON THAT.
WHEN WE SET THE PROPERTY TAX RATE, UH, I THINK, THINK IT REQUIRES A UNANIMOUS VOTE IS WHAT YOU GUYS WANTED.
IT'S A, WELL, I'M, NOW, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING IN, IN CHARTER, BUT UNDER, I THINK IT, YEAH.
I'M NOT THINKING ABOUT THE, THE CHARTER.
I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT IN GENERAL.
I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT DO REQUIRE MORE THAN A SIMPLE MAJORITY.
WELL, WE CAN GET, WE CAN CLEAR THAT UP.
BUT WHAT ABOUT THIS ONE? SO DO WE, ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC ITEM? ALL ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
UH, D OR NO? WHAT'S THE NEXT ONE? C.
SHALL THE CHARTER BE AMENDED TO INCREASE THE LIMIT OF CONSECUTIVE YEARS OF SERVICE OF THE CITY COUNCIL FROM 10 TO 12 YEARS AND TO REDUCE THE LENGTH OF THE REQUIRED GAP BETWEEN 10 YEARS ON THE CITY COUNCIL FROM THREE TO ONE MOVE TO APPROVE? DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.
I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THIS ONE.
UM, MAINLY BECAUSE I, I, LAST TIME WE SAW IT, I THOUGHT IT SAID 11 AND A HALF.
SO ESSENTIALLY WE'RE MOVING IT FROM 10 TO 12.
SO INSTEAD OF DOING THREE TERMS, WE CAN JUST DO FOUR.
UH, WHEN THE C COUNCIL LAST SAW IT WAS, UH, IN THE ACCEPTANCE OR PRESENTATION ACCEPTANCE OF THE COMMISSION'S REPORT.
THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION, UH, IN THE PREPARATION OF THAT REPORT.
SO, UH, AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE MEETING WHERE THE COMMISSION MADE A DECISION REGARDING EITHER
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11 TO 12, UH, MY, MY NOTES AND MY RECOLLECTION HAD BEEN THAT THE COMMISSION HAD LANDED ON 12.I DRAFTED THE LANGUAGE THAT WAY AND THEN PRESENTED IT TO THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION VIA EMAIL.
I GOT EMAIL COMMENTS BACK FROM THE CHAIR AND THEN ANOTHER PERSON SAYING, OH, I THINK THAT THAT DISCUSSION LANDED ON 11, WHICH WAS NOT WHAT I RECALL, BUT NO ONE ELSE IN THE COMMISSION WEIGHED IN ON IT.
AND SO I CHANGED IT TO 11 FOR THE REPORT THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL.
AND THEN SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, UH, COUNCILMAN EDMONDS, WHO WAS ALSO ON THE COMMISSION, HE REQUESTED THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN AND REVIEWED THE RECORDINGS, UH, OF THAT MEETING AND THAT DISCUSSION AND CONFIRMED THAT IT WAS IN FACT 12, WHICH IS WHY FOR THIS RESOLUTION, I CHANGED THAT LANGUAGE BACK TO 12.
AND, UM, THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING IS IF WE'RE JUST TRYING TO ADD ANOTHER TERM, RIGHT? UM, FROM WHAT IT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME ON THE 11 RATHER THAN 12, UM, WAS BECAUSE YOU'RE ENCOURAGING PEOPLE THAT IF THEY TAKE, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, MY SITUATION AN UNEXPIRED TERM, UM, IF I'M UNEXPIRED AND I GET TO MY THIRD TERM, I CAN'T RUN ANOTHER TERM 'CAUSE IT'LL GO PAST THE 12, RIGHT? SO WE ARE NOW GOING TO, IF WE DON'T DO IT LESS THAN A TERM LENGTH, SO IF WE DON'T DO IT IN LESS THAN THREE INCREMENTS, RIGHT? ALL WE'RE DOING IS PUSHING IT DOWN THE LINE AND WE STILL HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM.
SO IF SOMEONE COMES IN HALFWAY THROUGH, LIKE I SAID, LIKE I DID, UM, I STILL CAN'T GO FARTHER, BUT NOW EVERYBODY HERE CAN RUN FOUR TERMS. NO, NO.
WE, UM, THAT WAS NOT A CONSIDERATION.
STILL STICKING TO THREE TERMS AND NOT LOOKING AT PROBABILITY, BUT POSSIBILITY.
WELL, THAT SOMEBODY, UM, THAT A PERSON RUNS FOR OFFICE AND IS ELECTED AND IS UNABLE TO SET, WOULD REQUIRE YOU TO HAVE A SPECIAL ELECTION TO FILL, UH, AN EXPIRED TERM THAT COULD POTENTIALLY RUN BEYOND 11 YEARS.
SO ALLOWING THE TIME TO GO TO 12 WOULD BE TO NOT BE ABLE TO DISQUALIFY YOU FROM RUNNING.
SO SOMEBODY FELL OFF LIKE SIX MONTHS INTO THEIR TERM, BUT, SO HERE'S, HERE'S THE QUESTION.
I GUESS THAT I'M, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT.
SO WE'RE STILL KEEPING THE LIMIT OF THREE CONSECUTIVE TERMS. YES, SIR.
SO THAT, THAT TERM THAT, AND THAT'S WHAT I, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS NOT GONE.
'CAUSE I WANTED THAT AND IT'S THREE CONSECUTIVE TERMS. FULL, FULL, FULL TERMS. PERFECT.
I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT BECAUSE IT, WHEN YOU READ IT THIS WAY WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S THE THREE TERMS, IT'S OKAY.
WELL, WE'RE JUST GOING TO FOUR TERMS. THIS IS YOU FOR AN EXAMPLE.
SO IF YOU SERVED THREE TERMS, THREE FULL TERMS, AND THEN YOU GOT TO 10 THE 10TH YEAR MM-HMM
THEN THEY COULDN'T SAY, WELL, YOU SERVED YOUR 10 YEARS, YOU GOTTA RESIGN.
YOUR LAST SIX MONTHS SENSE, OR YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO RUN.
MAKE SENSE? BUT, BECAUSE I THOUGHT THIS, YOU'LL GO BEYOND YOUR CONTINUING, I THOUGHT THIS WAS REPLACING NO.
THE THREE TERMS. SO IF THIS IS IN CONJUNCTION, I I HAVE NO QUESTIONS, NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER, SIR.
I JUST, I WANTED TO VERIFY A PARTIAL TERM LIKE YOUR SAYING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT C? AND, ALL RIGHT.
UH, SO THAT GETS US TO D-E-F-G-H.
SO POSITION, UH, PROPOSITION F SHALL THE CHARTER BE AMENDED TO REMOVE REDUNDANT AND CONFLICTING LANGUAGE REGARDING APPOINTMENT OF THE CITY SECRETARY, MUNICIPAL COURT, UH, UH, COURT CLERK AND CHIEF OF POLICE.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOVE TO APPROVE.
WHAT? WAIT, UM, I GUESS POINT INFORMATION.
UH, THAT'S THE ONE YOU STRUCK.
YOU STRUCK THAT FROM YOURS, RIGHT? I, I, MAYBE I'M LOOKING AT THE WRONG THING, BUT F HERE NEITHER THE COUNCIL NOR MEMBERS.
I WAS LOOKING AT THE, THE STRIKE THROUGHS WRONG.
OH, YOU'RE READING THE SPANISH VERSION.
SO, UM, WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE REMOVING ON THIS ONE? SO WHAT WAS CONFLICTING, WHAT WAS THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS CONFLICTING? WELL, ONE OF 'EM WAS THAT THE CITY SECRETARY COULDN'T BE PART OF THE MUNICIPAL COURT, LIKE THE OLD CHARTER.
OF THE CITY SECRETARY, MUNICIPAL COURT CLERK, AND CHIEF OF POLICE.
SO IT'S, IT'S TALKING ABOUT THE APPOINTMENT OF THOSE THREE ITEMS. AND
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SO ARE WE SAYING WE WANT TO CHANGE WHO APPOINTS THOSE THREE PIECES OF, OF, OF THOSE THREE INDIVIDUALS? UH, NONE OF THIS SECTION? NO, SIR.THIS ONE, NEITHER THE COUNCIL NOR ANY OF ITS MEMBERS SHALL DIRECT A CITY MANAGER TO APPOINT, TO APPOINT OR REMOVE OR REMOVE ANY PERSON, PERSON FROM ANY POSITION.
THAT'S THE ONLY, THE ONLY THING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THIS.
SO WE CAN'T, THIS WOULD PROHIBIT US FROM TELLING THE CITY MANAGER TO FIRE PEOPLE TO HIRE A FIRE.
UH, ANY, DO I HAVE A, DID WE ALREADY GET A MOTION? YES.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY? IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
UH, SO F-G-H-I-J CAN YOU SCROLL DOWN TO J ALL RIGHT.
SHALL THE, UH, PROPOSITION J SHALL THE CHARTER BE AMENDED TO PROVIDE? THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL APPOINT AND MAY REMOVE THE CITY SECRETARY BY THE AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OR FOUR MEMBERS AND REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT THAT THE CITY SECRETARY BE APPOINTED FOR AN INDEFINITE TERM.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? I ALSO MOVE, I'LL SECOND.
UM, SO WHAT'S THE, I GUESS, WHAT IS IT CURRENTLY, MY UNDERSTANDING, WHAT ARE WE CHANGING IT FROM TO, IT'S, I THOUGHT WE ALREADY DID APPOINT THE CITY SECRETARY.
CURRENTLY THE CITY MANAGER APPOINTS THE CITY SECRETARY AND THE CITY COUNCIL OF FIRMS. SO THIS CHANGE WOULD BE IN EFFECT TO, UH, TAKE THE CITY SECRETARY, UH, OUT FROM UNDER THE CITY MANAGER AND HAVING THE CITY SECRETARY BASICALLY BE ANOTHER COUNCIL EMPLOYEE.
THAT, THAT'S THE ESSENCE OF THIS.
SO WHAT'S THE REASON TO PUT THE CITY SECRETARY UNDER SEVEN BOSSES INSTEAD OF ONE BOSS? WHAT IT DOES IS IT RETURNS IT BACK TO THE ORIGINAL CHARTER.
WHEN THE CHARTER CHANGED IN 2020, IT, THE, THE CITY SECRETARY DID REPORT DIRECTLY TO THE COUNCIL.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THE QUESTION.
'CAUSE THEY STILL, THEY STILL WILL, THEY STILL WILL ANSWER THE CITY MANAGER EVERY, BUT THEY, BUT THEY ARE, THEY ARE HIRED.
THEY ARE HIRED AND FIRED WITH THIS BY THE COUNCIL, WHICH IS THE WAY IT WAS ALL THE WAY UP UNTIL 2020.
BUT THAT'S ALSO WHEN WE CHANGED OUR FORM OF GOVERNMENT TOO, RIGHT? YES.
SO IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING FORM OF GOVERNMENT ON TOP OF THE CHARTER CHANGE, IS THIS A, IS THAT THE REASON WHY THE CHARTER CHANGED? BECAUSE THE FORM OF GOVERNMENT CHANGED.
WE DID IT BACK IN THE SEVENTIES AND EIGHTIES AND NINETIES.
BUT IF WE CHANGED OUR COMPLETE CHARTER WHERE WE USED TO HAVE A MAYOR THAT RAN THE CITY WITH A CITY ADMINISTRATOR AND THEN COUNCIL, BUT NOW WE HAVE A CITY COUNCIL AND A MAYOR THAT DON'T RUN THIS CITY.
WE HAVE A-C-C-E-O CITY MANAGER THAT RUNS THE CITY.
WOULDN'T WE WANT THE PERSON RUNNING THE CITY BE IN CHARGE OF ALL THE EMPLOYMENT? WELL, I DO HAVE A QUESTION TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT BECAUSE YEAH.
AND I'M ASKING SO IT MAKES SENSE OF IT.
SO THE, UM, CURRENTLY THE WAY WE DO IT TODAY, IF YOU WANT AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA, A COUNCIL MEMBER GOES TO THE CITY MANAGER.
WE DON'T GO DIRECTLY TO THE CITY SECRETARY.
IT'S, UH, THE CITY MANAGER'S OBLIGATION TO PUT OUR AGENDA TOGETHER.
SO THIS, I WOULD EXPECT TO AFFECT THAT IF, IF THE CITY SECRETARY IS A DIRECT REPORT OF COUNCIL, A MEMBER OF COUNCIL GOING TO THE CITY SECRETARY TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA, I BELIEVE WOULD BE REASONABLY EXPECTED.
IF, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY THOUGH, THAT WAS A SEPARATE CHARTER ITEM.
THE, THE MAKING THE CITY MANAGER RESPONSIBLE FOR THE AGENDA VERSUS THE CITY SECRETARY WAS SEPARATE FROM WHETHER WHO THEY REPORT TO.
ACTUALLY WHAT IT DID, IT TOOK THE, IT TOOK THE AGENDA FROM THE MAYOR AND GAVE IT TO THE CITY MANAGER.
THE CITY UNDER THE OLD CHARTER.
THE MAYOR WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE AGENDA AND THE BUDGET, WHICH WE ALL KNOW HE WORKED WITH, WITH STAFF ON THAT.
THE CITY SECRETARY MAKES OUT THE AGENDA.
BUT THE CITY, THE MAYOR USED TO DO IT.
NOW IT'S IN THE CHARTER THAT THE MAYOR, UH, CITY, THE CITY MANAGER SETS THE AGENDA.
SO IF YOU WANT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA, YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE CITY MANAGER TO GET IT ON THERE.
BUT I, I GUESS WHAT I'M, WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY WAS THAT COULD BE CHANGED WITHOUT THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT.
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AFFECTS NOTHING REGARDING HOW THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING AGENDAS ARE BUILT.THAT IS A COMPLETELY SEPARATE SECTION.
THAT'S SECTION 3 0 9, I'M SORRY, 3 0 8 OF THE CHARTER.
AND THAT REMAINS UNCHANGED, WHICH IS THE AGENDA FOR THE MEETINGS OF CITY COUNCIL SHALL BE PREPARED BY THE CITY MANAGER WITH INPUT FROM THE MAYOR.
AND SO THIS CHANGE OF REPORTING STRUCTURE FOR THE CITY'S SECRETARY WOULD NOT IN ANY WAY IMPACT HOW THE AGENDA ITEMS ARE PUT ON.
SO I GUESS THAT'S MY QUESTION IS WHY ARE WE PUTTING 'EM UNDERNEATH US WHEN WE DON'T WORK WITH THEM DAY TO DAY? UH, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT JUST RUNNING A CITY, UM, LIKE LOOK AT A PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANY.
THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS HAS NO BUS BUSINESS TALKING ABOUT WHO THE C-E-O-C-F-O AND CEO HIRE FIRE AND DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.
UM, AND IF WE HAVE TO DO, NOW WE HAVE A POINT, ONE POINT OF, I GUESS ONE POINT OF CONTACT WITH OUR CITY MANAGER.
WE KNOW WHO THE INFORMATION FLOWS THROUGH.
IT'S NOT, WELL, I TOLD THE CITY MANAGER, OH, I TOLD THE CITY SECRETARY.
WE TALKED TO CHASE AND CHASE ALONE.
AND I GUESS THIS IS JUST, I GUESS, MAKING IT MORE COMPLICATED IN MY EYES.
UM, BUT ONCE AGAIN, UM, THAT'S, I'M TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OF IT.
THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OF IT BECAUSE THE CITY MAN, THE CITY SECRETARY IS THE OFFICIAL RECORD KEEPER FOR THE CITY.
THERE ARE CERTAIN FUNCTIONS THAT THEY HAVE TO DO.
AND THIS WILL TAKE ANY OF THE POLITICS OUT OF THAT.
JUST LIKE THE, UH, A LOT OF IT HELD ON THE, UH, THE, UH, WHAT, WHAT WOULD RECALL, OKAY, THERE'S A CHANCE WITH THE CITY SECRETARY ANSWERING TO THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR AND THE MAYOR PLUS THUMB ON THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR.
HE CAN WALK IN THERE AND TELL THE CITY SECRETARY WHAT, HOW TO OKAY.
OR DISOBEY THE, UH, A RECALL PETITION OR SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS THIS WILL TAKE SOME OF THE, UH, PRESSURE OFF OF THE CITY, ADMINIS CITY SECRETARY FROM BEING HELD UNDER THE CITY MANAGER ON CERTAIN THINGS.
BUT SO THEN WE'RE, WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT OUR CITY MANAGER NOT OPERATING EFFECTIVELY.
SO THEN WE JUST FIRE OUR CITY MANAGER.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A A WHAT YOU WANT DO, THAT'S A SEPARATE THING, BUT I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT IT'S A NEGATIVE.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD A RULE BASED ON SOMETHING NEGATIVE THAT POSSIBLY COULD HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE, RATHER THAN THE, THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD OPERATE.
I'M THE ONE WHO BROUGHT IT UP, AND I HOLD THE CITY SECRETARY'S POSITION AS A HIGHER, AS A HIGHER POSITION THAN MOST OF THE OTHER ONES IN THE CITY.
'CAUSE I'VE BEEN AROUND, I WAS AROUND LONG ENOUGH TO SEE WHAT THEY DID.
AND I HOLD THEM AT A LITTLE BIT HIGHER AUTHORITY BEING, THEY WERE THE OFFICIAL RECORD KEEPER OF THE CITY.
THEY USED TO BE THE HR PERSON FOR THE CITY, AND THEY HAD MORE RESPONSIBILITY THAN THEY MAY HAVE TODAY.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I HOLD THAT POSITION AND STILL HOLD THAT POSITION AS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.
ESPECIALLY SINCE I'M THE ONE WHO HAS TO CON AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, HAVING TO CONFIRM THEIR APPOINTMENT ANYWAY.
THE CITY MANAGER CAN'T APPOINT ONE.
BUT IF COUNSEL SAYS NO, THEY DON'T GET APPOINTED.
SO IT'S JUST PUTTING IT BACK UNDERNEATH THE COUNSEL.
YOU'RE THE ONES APPOINTING THEM.
ANY, YOU'RE APPOINTING THEM ANYWAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS ABOUT PROPOSITION J? ALL RIGHT.
UM, PROPOSITION K SHALL THE CHARTER BE AMENDED TO PROVIDE THE, DID WE, NO, WE DID THAT ONE ALREADY.
UH, LAST ONE IS L UH, PROPOSITION.
L SHALL THE CHARTER BE AMENDED TO PROVIDE THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY SHALL BE APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND BE, BE, MAY BE REMOVED BY THE AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF FOUR MEMBERS.
I'LL MAKE, I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR THE DISCUSSION.
DO I GOT A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
WHAT DO WE GOT? I, I MEAN, THIS LOOKS LIKE, AGAIN, TAKING SOMEBODY THAT'S REPORTING TO THE CITY MANAGER AND NOW MAKING THEM REPORT DIRECTLY TO COUNCIL.
IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT I'M COUNCIL HIRED, COUNCIL HIRED THE ATTORNEY, THE LAW FIRM, AND THE COUNCIL TOOK THE ACTION TO HIRE MM-HMM
THE BIGGEST CHANGE HERE ACTUALLY IS, UM, HAD TO DO MAYOR NUMBER OF PEOPLE TO GET RID OF HIM, I BELIEVE.
THERE, THERE WAS SOME SPECULATION THAT THIS SECTION SHOULD HAVE BEEN CHANGED, UH, ALONG WITH THE FORMER GOVERNMENT CHANGE.
'CAUSE IT STILL HAD THE OLD LANGUAGE OF IT'S THE MAYOR WHO'S GONNA NOMINATE, AND THEN THE COUNCIL GETS TO CONFIRM OR NOT.
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THAT'S THE, THE MAIN CHANGE, UH, HERE, IS THAT THE, INSTEAD OF THE MAYOR NOMINATING, IT'S JUST TO SEEK COUNCIL TAKING THE OLD, TAKING THE OLD FORM STUFF OUT AND KEEPING, KEEPING.UH, ANY QUESTIONS? OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PROPOSITION? IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
IS THERE ANYTHING IN BELOW THAT? NO.
CAN YOU SCROLL DOWN? YES, SIR.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? I SO MOVE.
I HAVE A QUESTION AS WHY ARE WE GOING TO TAKE ONE OF THE MOST POLITICAL POSITIONS IN OUR CITY AND PUT HIM UNDER A BUNCH OF POLITICIANS THAT KNOW NOTHING ABOUT POLICE FORCE? AGAIN, THIS ONE WAS ONE OF 'EM I BROUGHT UP FROM, FROM WHAT I HEARD IT FROM TM, WHEN I WAS AT TMM, AGAIN, THE SAME THING, JUST THE WAY THE CHARTER USED TO BE BEFORE THE, THE CHANGE HE ALWAYS ANSWERED TO THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR.
I MEAN, TO THE CITY COUNCIL, THEY APPOINTED HIM AND WHATEVER THEY WANNA DO WITH HIM.
BUT HE ALWAYS ANSWERED JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, THEY ANSWERED TO THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR TO DURING THE DAY FOR THE DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS OF THE CITY.
BUT THIS IS THE SAME THING AS THE CITY SECRETARY.
WELL, SO LET'S TALK ABOUT Y'ALL'S EXAMPLE EARLIER.
AND NOW I HAVE A POLICE CHIEF THAT IS RAN BY THE, BY US.
AND NOW A POLITICIAN, A GUY ON CITY COUNCIL DECIDES TO PUT HIS THUMB ON SOMEBODY TO MAKE SURE THINGS GO AWAY.
WE HAVE NO ONE TO HOLD ACCOUNTABLE.
IF, IF MR. CAREY DOES THAT, I FIRE HIM.
IF ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS DOES IT, IT'S ILLEGAL.
WELL, THE CHARTER SAYS COUNCIL CANNOT GET INTO THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATION OF THE CITY.
AND THE CHARTER ALSO SAYS, COUNCIL CANNOT GO IN AND TELL AN EMPLOYEE HOW TO, HOW TO WORK DAY TO DAY.
THERE ARE, THERE ARE PROTECTIONS IN THE CHARTER WHEN IT'S FOLLOWED.
CHARTER'S NOT ALWAYS FOLLOWED.
I KNOW AS WELL AS EVERYBODY ELSE SITTING AT THIS TABLE, THE CHARTER'S NOT ALWAYS FOLLOWED, BUT IF IT'S FOLLOWED, NO ONE OF US CAN TELL THAT THE CHIEF OR THE, THE CITY MANAGER OR ANYBODY ELSE THROUGH THE FIRE, THROUGH THE HIRING FIRE.
SO THEN WHAT? SO WE'RE ONLY THE ONES.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE NOT HIRING THEM.
THAT, SO THAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE HAVE NO BUSINESS DOING THAT YET.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING FOR OUR POLICE CHIEF.
I THINK WHAT, UH, MR. TOWNSEND IS SAYING IS THAT THERE'S CHARTER LANGUAGE THAT PREVENTS, OR THAT TELLS THE COUNCIL THEY ARE NOT TO INDIVIDUALLY TO DIRECT A COUNCIL EMPLOYEE MM-HMM
WHICH BE LIKE THE CITY MANAGER TO DO ANYTHING WITH THAT.
COUNCIL EMPLOYEE'S SUBORDINATE.
BUT THE COUNCIL EMPLOYEE BEING A COUNCIL EMPLOYEE, SUBJECT TO BEING HIRED AND FIRED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
NOW, IF YOU GO AND YOU TAKE THE POLICE CHIEF, WHICH IS CURRENTLY A COUNCIL, I'M SORRY, CURRENTLY A MANAGER EMPLOYEE.
AND SO THEREFORE HAS THAT PROTECTION OF CITY COUNCIL INDIVIDUALLY DON'T BE TELLING THAT GUY WHAT TO DO OR TELLING THE CITY MANAGER TO HIRE OR HIRE THAT GUY.
NOW YOU TAKE THAT GUY OUT AND MAKE HIM A COUNCIL EMPLOYEE.
YOU WILL SUBJECT THAT THAT EMPLOYEE WHO IS NOW A COUNCIL EMPLOYEE TO THAT DIRECTION BY SEVEN SEVEN BOXES.
SO THE EXACT THING WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID ENDED UP HAPPENING BECAUSE NOW I, AS A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER CAN GO AND JUST TELL THE POLICE CHIEF WHATEVER I WANT BECAUSE HE'S MY EMPLOYEE, NOT THE CITY MANAGER'S EMPLOYEE.
SO THAT'S, AND THAT'S WHAT MY, MY CONCERN IS, IS IT'S GREAT WHEN WE HAVE A GREAT COUNCIL WHERE WE ALL GET ALONG, BUT WE ALSO HAVE PEOPLE THAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST THAT HAVE WEAPONIZED IT.
SO, UM, WE'VE SEEN IT ALL ACROSS OUR COUNTRY.
WE'VE SEEN IT ALL OVER THE PLACE.
I THINK THAT IF, IF WE HAVE A POLICE CHIEF UNDERNEATH A POL, A BUNCH OF POLITICIANS, THAT IS NOT A GOOD THING.
WHEN YOU, YOU HAVE, UH, YOU BUILD THE RAPPORT WITH YOUR CITIZENS THAT THEY'RE WORKING, UH, ABOVE REPROACH.
I MEAN, IT WAS LIKE THAT IN THE ORIGINAL CHARTER AND IT WAS NEVER A PROBLEM.
WELL, WE, I'VE NEVER SEEN A PROBLEM.
I'VE NEVER SEEN A PROBLEM WITH IT.
I'VE NEVER SEEN A COUNCIL THAT WENT IN THERE AND MESSED WITH THE POLICE CHIEF.
THEY PROBABLY, I KNOW ONE INCIDENT WE PROBABLY PROTECTED THE POLICE CHIEF MORE THAN WE SHOULD HAVE.
THE, THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR CAME TO COUNCIL IN EXECUTIVE
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SESSIONS AND LAID OUT THE FACTS.COUNCIL PROBABLY PROTECTED THE POLICE CHIEF MORE THAN THEY SHOULD HAVE.
WELL, WELL, AND I GUESS THAT'S THE THING THAT I GUESS I, I'M WOR NOT WORRIED ABOUT.
IT'S THE THING THAT I GUESS POKES OUT IN MY HEAD THE MOST IS THE MOMENT YOU HAVE A POLICE CHIEF UNDERNEATH CITY COUNCIL, WE CANNOT HOLD ANYONE ACCOUNTABLE OTHER THAN HIM.
AND THEN US AS COUNCIL CAN TELL HIM TO DO WHATEVER WE WANT WITHOUT THE MANAGER EVER KNOWING A THING ABOUT IT.
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, OUR POLICE CHIEF, OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR? WHY AREN'T ALL OF THEM UNDERNEATH THIS UNDER US AS WELL? WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE POLICE CHIEF WHEN WE KNOW IT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST? WE HAVE TO PROTECT OUR STAFF FROM US.
AND, AND I WILL SAY, I GUESS TWO THINGS.
NUMBER ONE, I DON'T HAVE A T COLE.
SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO LET THE POLICE DO THE POLICE WORK.
UM, WHAT I WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT, AND, AND THIS WAS ALSO WHY I, I VOTED AGAINST MOVING THE CITY SECRETARY.
UM, IT CREATES A SITUATION WHERE SOMEBODY CAN COME TO SAID EMPLOYEE AND SAY, DISREGARD WHAT THE CITY MANAGER IS TRYING TO DO.
YOU'VE GOT THE VOTES TO KEEP YOUR JOB.
THERE'S NOTHING WON'T KEEP YOU FROM DOING THAT TO THE CITY MANAGER.
BUT IF THE POLICE CHIEF IS DOING SOMETHING, I KNOW A FACT.
I KNOW FOR A FACT YOU'RE IN THE CITY MANAGER'S POSITION.
AS LONG AS SHE KEPT THREE FOUR OF 'EM IN HER POCKET, SHE COULD DO WHATEVER SHE WANTED.
'CAUSE THERE WAS THREE OF 'EM.
SHE DIDN'T CARE IF THEY LIKED HER OR NOT.
BUT WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT A FORM OF, YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THAT ON ANY POSITION.
YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THAT ON ANY POSITION THAT THE COUNCIL, THAT THE COUNCIL APPOINTS OR DOESN'T APPOINT AS FAR AS THAT GOES, WHETHER NO ONE SECOND OR WHATEVER.
BUT THE ONE THING THAT WE'RE ALSO BRINGING IT UP IS IT WAS THE OLD CHARTER.
IT WAS ALSO THE OLD FORM OF GOVERNMENT WHERE WE HAD A MAYOR, UH, MAYOR OR A MAYOR COUNCIL FORM OF GOVERNMENT RATHER THAN A MANAGER COUNCIL FORM OF GOVERNMENT.
SO YOU'RE COMPARING APPLES AND ORANGES OF THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD WORK.
DON'T, AND I THINK IT SHOULD GO PERSONALLY, I THINK IT SHOULD GO BACK TO THE WAY THEY WERE CHARTER WAS ORIGINALLY WRITTEN INSTEAD OF WHAT WE HAD TODAY.
AND, AND THIS IS PART OF THE PROBLEM, IS WE'RE PUTTING OUR PERSONAL IDEAS ON IT, RATHER THAN WHAT'S THE GOOD FOR THE CITY.
SO I THINK IT, I THINK IT WAS BETTER FOR THE CITY, THE OLD, THE OLD FORMER GOVERNMENT WAS BETTER FOR THE CITY AND WHAT WE HAVE TODAY.
BUT WE'RE IN THE POSITION WE'RE IN NOW.
AND THE PEOPLE VOTED IN 2020 TO CHANGE THE GOVERNMENT, WHICH THAT'S THEIR, THEIR OPINION.
AND NOW WE'RE SAYING, BUT WE DON'T CARE WHAT THE, THE VOTERS WANT, WE WANT TO CHANGE IT.
'CAUSE MR. TOWNSEND THINKS IT'S BETTER THE OTHER WAY.
WELL, HERE'S, AND LOOK, I'VE LABORED OVER THIS SINCE WE APPROVED IT.
I TALKED TO, UH, THE FORMER CHIEF OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
HE SAYS THERE'S PRO AND CONS TO BOTH SIDES OF THIS.
IS ONE BETTER THAN THE OTHER? NO.
I TALKED TO OUR CURRENT POLICE CHIEF.
HE DOESN'T REALLY HAVE AN OPINION ON IT.
MY WHOLE SITUATION IS IF IT DOESN'T MAKE IT BETTER, THEN IF WHAT WE'RE DOING DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING SIGNIFICANTLY TO MAKE IT BETTER, SHOULD WE CONSIDER IT? WELL, WHY CHANGE IT? YEAH.
THERE'S A LOT OF THESE THAT I DIDN'T AGREE WITH MM-HMM
BUT I VOTED TO BRING THEM TO COUNCIL.
THERE'S A LOT OF THESE YOU'RE VOTING ON TONIGHT.
I'M GONNA VOTE FOR EVERY ONE OF 'EM TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT FOR THE VOTERS TO CHOOSE.
DO I AGREE WITH 'EM? NOT ALL OF THEM.
BUT THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION.
BUT I DON'T LET THAT GET IN THE WAY.
I'M LETTING ALL THE, I'M LETTING IT GO TO THE VOTERS.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE CHARTER COMMITTEE BROUGHT TO COUNCIL TO PUT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE, FOR THE, UH, THE VOTERS TO LOOK AT.
SO, YOU KNOW, SAY THAT, WELL, THAT TOWN'S OPINION EXISTS.
SOME OF THEM, SOME OF 'EM I DO, SOME OF 'EM I DON'T.
BUT I'M GONNA VOTE FOR EVERY ONE OF 'EM TONIGHT TO LET 'EM GO ON THE BALLOT BECAUSE I'M NOT LETTING MY OPINION GET IN THE WAY ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
NOW, IF JOHN Q PUBLIC COMES ASK ME AFTER A MEETING, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS? I'M GONNA TELL HIM WHETHER I LIKE IT OR NOT.
BUT HE'S THE ONE THAT'S GOTTA VOTE FOR IT.
SO, AND THEN I GUESS HERE WOULD BE THE, I GUESS THE, DO WE KNOW WHAT THE REPERCUSSIONS ARE IF THIS HAPPENS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT EMPLOYMENT? SO IF I'M IN, IF I AM A, I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT IT.
IF I'M IN, IN OUR POLICE CHIEF'S SHOES AND I HAVE SEVEN BOSSES, I CAN BE FIRED AT ANY TIME.
AS LONG AS IF FOUR OF THEM DON'T LIKE ME, I'M GONE.
IF MR. CARE WANTS TO FIRE HIM, HE HAS TO, TO DEVELOP.
CAUSE HE ACTUALLY HAS TO HAVE A REASON TO BE ABLE TO FIRE HIS EMPLOYEE.
THERE'S WRONGFUL TERMINATION, ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
WE CAN'T GET WRONGFUL TERMIN OR WE CAN'T GET SUED NECESSARILY FOR WRONGFUL TERMINATION IF WE ALL VOTE ON IT.
IF YOU FIRE SOMEBODY AND YOU VOTE ON IT,
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YOU CAN GET SUED.AND, BUT THE QUESTION IS THAT I HAVE IS WILL THIS INCREASE THE COST OF OUR POLICE CHIEF? BECAUSE EVERY COP I TALKED TO, UH, I ALSO TALKED TO OUR FORMER POLICE CHIEF.
I TALKED TO A FEW DIFFERENT POLICE OFFICERS ACROSS DIFFERENT CITIES, UM, AND ASK THEIR OPINIONS AS WELL.
'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT BEING A COP.
SO I DON'T KNOW THE INS AND OUTS OF BEING A COP.
WHAT I DO KNOW IS MR. CAREY WORKS WITH THEM EVERY DAY.
HE HAS A LOT MORE IDEA OF WHAT THE HECK THE, OUR CHIEFS SHOULD BE OPERATING ON.
SO I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE THINK AS A SEVEN BODIES, WE THINK WE CAN DO BETTER THAN HIM.
HE LITERALLY DOES THIS FOR A LIVING.
SO WE ARE A BOARD OF, UH, OF, WE ARE A BOARD OF, UH, TO BUILD ORDINANCES AND BASICALLY SET THE RULES THAT OUR CITY ABIDES BY.
WE'RE NOT, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT HOW WE'RE NOT HERE TO HIRE AND FIRE SOMEBODY.
YET NOW WE'RE TRYING TO PUT PEOPLE IN SO THAT WE HIRE AND FIRE 'EM.
IT, NONE OF IT, IT, THAT SPECIFIC PART DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.
UM, AND I AGREE WITH MR. EDMONDS OR COUNCILMAN EDMONDS IS IF WE'RE CHANGING IT AND NOTHING CHANGES, WHY ARE WE CHANGING IT FOR OTHER THAN THAT? WELL, YOU, YOU, BUT YOU'RE, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING YOU.
VOTING IN TO SEND IT TO THE PUBLIC TO LET THEM MAKE A CHOICE.
AND YOU DON'T WANT TO VOTE? NO.
BECAUSE I, I SAID I'M VOTING FOR EVERY ONE OF 'EM, EVEN THOUGH I DON'T AGREE WITH 'EM.
THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT TO SAY ON WHAT THE CHARTER REVIEW BOARD DID.
I'M JUST SAYING, I'M, I'M CONCERNED THAT WHEN WE PUT THIS OUT IN FRONT OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC, IF WE ARE HAVING THIS MUCH DIFFICULTY DOING THIS, HOW IS THE GENERAL PUBLIC GOING TO READ THIS AND COME UP WITH AN EDUCATED DECISION? I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST THROWING THINGS TO THE WIND.
I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO ARGUE ABOUT IT FOR ANOTHER 20 MINUTES.
MAYBE GO ON AND SAY YES NO, AND GO HOME.
BUT THAT'S HOW, THAT'S HOW THINGS FALL THROUGH RESPECT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WELL, IT LOOKED LIKE WE'RE GONNA GO AROUND IN A CIRCLE.
SO, UH, FOR, SO IS THAT THE, IS THAT A MOTION TO CALL THE QUESTION? IS THAT, IS THAT A MOTION TO CALL THE QUESTION? I JUST CALLED FOR THE VOTE.
NO, WE'LL, WE'LL VOTE, UH, ANY MORE, I GUESS.
SO, UH, PROPOSITION IS IT MMI LOST MY ALL RIGHT.
PROPOSITION IN SHALL THE CHARTER BE AMENDED TO REQUIRE THAT THE STATEMENT OF GROUNDS ACCOMPANYING A RECALL PETITION NEEDS TO STATE SUCH GROUNDS WITH ENOUGH SPEC SPECIFICITY? YOU ALMOST GOT THAT SPECIFICITY.
TO GIVE REASONABLE NOTICE TO THE OFFICERS OFFICER BEING CHARGED.
UH, AND TO PROVIDE A PROCEDURE FOR THE CITY SECRETARY TO REVIEW THE STATEMENT OF GROUNDS FOR ADEQUATE SPEC.
WHY? WE GOTTA PUT THAT WORD IN THERE SPECIFIC, BUT BEFORE THE PETITION BLANKS ARE APPROVED FOR CIRCULATION AND SIGNATURE WITH APPEAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
WELL, I HOPE Y'ALL GOT ALL THAT.
HEY, 20 YEAR REUNION IS THIS YEAR.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS ABOUT PROB? THAT'S GOOD.
UH, ALL, ANY, UH, COMMENTS ABOUT THIS ONE? ALL RIGHT.
O SHALL THE CHARTER BE AMENDED TO PROHIBIT THE APPOINTMENT OF ANY MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO A CITY BOARD, COMMISSION OR COMMITTEE.
THIS IS NOT TAKING AWAY FROM OUR ABILITY TO HAVE LIAISONS.
WE JUST CANNOT BE VOTING MEMBERS AND ACTUAL MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
UM, 'CAUSE WE'RE STILL TRYING TO KEEP THAT COMMUNICATION THING.
SO I WANNA MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR.
I GOT, I GOT A LEGAL QUESTION.
UM, HOW DOES THAT PLAY OUT? WHERE, UH, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO BE ON IT BY STATE LAW? IS THAT A HOME RULE THING IS NM THAT ALLOWS US TO BE, I GUESS, MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN THE STATE? UM, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE, WELL, OKAY.
SO FIRST YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE DEFINITION OR CONSTRUCT OF A CITY BOARD.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOING TO, OR, OR COMMISSION.
THAT'S GOING TO BE A BODY THAT'S CREATED, UH, BY THE CITY.
AND SO, UH, ON THOSE BODIES, THE CITY COUNCIL IS FREE TO COME UP WITH ITS RULES ON WHO CAN BE MEMBERS OR NOT OTHER BODIES THAT ARE CREATED BY STATE LAW, LIKE THE P AND Z.
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S FOR, THAT'S, THAT'S GOVERNED BY STATE LAW.
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SO I GUESS THIS IS THEN ONLY TO THOSE THAT ARE CREATED BY CITIES.I, I I, I MEAN, I'M GONNA VOTE FOR IT ACTUALLY, I WAS JUST CURIOUS, LIKE IF THERE'S ONE WHERE WE'RE SAYING NO, BUT THE STATE SAYS YES.
WHO, WHO WOULD WIN IN THAT ARGUMENT? THAT WAS, THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
THIS IS ACTUALLY DELETING THE VERBIAGE AND THE CHARTER AS IT SAYS TODAY.
EXCEPT WHERE IT SAYS, EXCEPT AS PERMITTED BY STATE LAW.
SO THIS IS DELETING THAT SENTENCE OUT OF THE CHARTER.
AND, AND I MEAN, THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING THE LEGAL QUESTION.
'CAUSE IT'S REFERENCING STATE LAW.
LET ME ASK YOU, HOW WOULD THIS AFFECTED THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE THAT WE JUST DID? BEEN PERFECT.
WE'D HAVE HAD ZERO COUNCIL PEOPLE, WE'D HAD ZERO COUNCIL PEOPLE ON THERE AND YOU WOULDN'T HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THE EC BOARD OR ANY OTHER BOARD.
HERE, HERE IS ANOTHER, I GUESS QUESTION ON THIS ONE.
JUST, I WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE MECHANISM WOULD WORK.
WHAT HAPPENS IF, LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE A MEMBER ON OUR EDC THAT WANTS TO RUN FOR COUNCIL.
DO THEY HAVE TO STEP DOWN OR THEY ONLY STEP DOWN ONCE THEY GET, THEY WIN ONCE TO GET ELECTED.
AND THAT'S, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S, THAT'S VERY CLEAR THAT YEAH, THEY DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY STEP DOWN FROM THEIR POSITION TO RUN A CAMPAIGN.
BECAUSE I DON'T WANT, LIKE I SAID, IF WE HAVE REALLY AWESOME EDC INDIVIDUALS AND THEY WANNA BE PART OF COUNCIL, I WANT THEM TO HAVE TO STEP DOWN AFTER THEY WIN.
'CAUSE IF THEY DON'T WIN, I WANT 'EM TO STILL BE THERE.
WELL, IT ACTUALLY SAYS APPOINTMENT.
SO IF THEY'RE ALREADY A MEMBER OF THE EDC, I DON'T THINK WE CAN KICK 'EM OFF THE EDC UNTIL THEY BECOME, UNTIL THEY'RE APPOINTED AS A COUNCIL MEMBER.
YOU CAN REMOVE THEM AT ANY TIME.
YOU SAID I HAVE, I HAVE ZERO ISSUES WITH HAVING MORE EYES ON OUR CITY OPERATIONS.
SO THE MORE PEOPLE WE HAVE INVOLVED WITH OUR CITY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, I THINK IT'S A FANTASTIC IDEA.
UM, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE STILL HAVE SOME SORT OF LIAISON WITH THESE BOARDS.
SO WE ALL HAVE SOME GENERAL SCOPE, BUT ANY QUESTIONS, MORE COMMENTS, CONCERNS? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
I HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL PROPOSITION THAT I'D LIKE TO CONSIDER.
UM, I'M, I'M SURE I TOUCHED ON IT AT THE, UH, CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, BUT I'M NOT SURE WE ACTUALLY GAVE IT, UH, DISCUSSION AND OR CONSIDERATION.
WE TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT AN, UH, AN AMENDMENT TO, UH, 12.12 SERVICE AGAINST SERVICE OF PROCESS AGAINST THE CITY, THAT ALL LEGAL PROCESS AGAINST THE CITY SHALL BE SERVED UPON THE CITY MANAGER RATHER THAN THE MAYOR.
SO WAS THAT, IS THAT A P OR WHAT, SIR? IS THAT A WELL, UM, SINCE WE, SINCE ONE OF THEM FAILED, IT'LL STILL PROBABLY BE AN O WELL, YEAH, I WOULDN'T STILL HAVE TO GO ON THE NEXT BELOW IT, EVEN THOUGH 'CAUSE IT'S ON THE LIST.
I IMAGINE THAT EVERYTHING ELSE MOVES THAT FORWARD.
SO IS IT GONNA BE P RIGHT NOW IT'LL BE P FOR THIS SPECIFIC TIME, BUT THEN WHENEVER IT COMES BACK, IT MIGHT BE MOVED UP.
SO PROPOSITION P UH, TO CHANGE, TO MAKE THE AMENDMENT TO CHANGE.
IF WE'RE GETTING SERVED DOCUMENT, UH, LEGAL DOCUMENTS, IT'S THAT GUY INSTEAD OF THIS GUY.
CITY MANAGER INSTEAD OF THE MAYOR.
AND I THINK THAT WAS PART OF ANOTHER THING THAT CAME FROM THE OLD CHARTER, OBVIOUSLY.
SO ANY, STILL HAVE A SECOND FOR THAT ONE.
SO WHAT HAPPENS IF THE MAYOR STILL GETS SERVED? BECAUSE I KNOW SOMETIMES WHEN SOMEBODY'S TRYING TO DO LEGAL SERVICE, THEY WILL, THEY CAN'T FIND ME.
THEY, I, I'VE SEEN SOME OF THEM LIST THE CITY MANAGER AND THEN ALL OF COUNCIL, AND I GUESS WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS IN THAT CASE JUST SUCKS TO THEM.
I THINK THAT'S, WELL, I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE CHARTER IS ONCE I DON'T HAVE THAT AUTHORITY, I CAN'T ACCEPT THOSE DOCUMENTS.
IF YOU'RE A PROCESSOR OR YOU HAVE TO SERVE PAPERWORK, YOU HAVE TO, THEY CAN SERVE YOU.
IT MIGHT NOT BE EFFECTIVE SERVICE, BUT THAT WOULD
I'M NOT ACTUALLY GONNA THROW IT AWAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PROPOSITION? ALL RIGHT.
AND I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO FINISH THIS OFF BY SAYING THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE COMMISSION, UH, THE CHARTER COMMISSION REVIEW.
I KNOW Y'ALL DID A HECK OF A LOT MORE WORK THAN WE JUST DID.
SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR EVERYTHING.
OR WE'D BE HERE TILL TWO IN THE MORNING TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT AT LEAST.
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SEVEN B OR SEVEN C[7.C RESOLUTION NO. XXXX-2026 - Consideration and possible action to approve a resolution ordering a General Election to be held on Saturday, May 2, 2026, for the purpose of electing a Mayor, City Council Position 1, Position 3, and Position 5; designating the places and manner of holding the election; providing for the posting and publication of notice for the election; providing a savings clause; providing an open meetings clause; and providing an effective date. (Administration)]
IS CONSIDERATION A POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION ORDERING A GENERAL ELECTION TO BE HELD ON SATURDAY MAY 2ND, 2026.FOR THE PURPOSE OF ELECTING A MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, POSITION ONE, POSITION THREE, AND POSITION FIVE DESIGNATING THE PLACE AND MANNER OF HOLDING THE ELECTION, PROVIDING FOR THE POSTING AND PUBLICATION OF NOTICE FOR THE ELECTION, PROVIDING A SAVINGS CLAUSE, PROVIDING AN OPEN MEETINGS CLAUSE, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
ALL IN, WE SECOND THAT EVAN, UH, SECOND BILL? YEP.
[7.D RESOLUTION NO. XXXX-2026 – Consideration and possible action to approve a Resolution of the City Council of the City Of Dickinson, Texas, approving submission of a grant application for the Crime Victim Assistance Program to the Office of the Governor of the State of Texas; Agreeing to provide matching funds for the project; authorizing the Mayor to act as the City's authorized representative in all matters pertaining to the City's participation in the program; providing for incorporation of preamble; and providing for an effective date. (Police Department)]
D UH, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF DICKINSON, TEXAS, APPROVING SUBMISSION OF A GRANT APPLICATION FOR THE CRIME VICTIM, CRIME VICTIM ASSISTANCE PROGRAM TO THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF TEXAS.AGREEING TO PROVIDE MATCHING FUNDS FOR THE PROJECT.
AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ACT AS THE CITY'S AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVE IN ALL MATTERS PERTAINING TO THE CITY'S PARTICIPATION IN THE PROGRAM, PROVIDING FOR INCORPORATION OF PREAMBLE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS ABOUT IT? YEAH.
UH, WHAT'S THE MATCHING GRANT? I MEAN, WHAT OR WHAT IS THE MATCH? I GUESS I DIDN'T SEE IT IN THE DEAL OR I MISSED IT.
FOR THE CITY, IS IT IN THE BUDGET? DO YOU KNOW? YEAH.
[7.E Discussion and possible action regarding future infrastructure, facility planning, and development of a Capital Improvement Plan. (Magliolo)]
SEVEN E DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING FUTURE INFRASTRUCTURE'S, FACILITY PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT OF A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.WE DON'T NEED A MOTION, BUT I KNOW WE HAVE A PRESENTATION, UH, OR SOME SORT OF, UH, PRESENTATION WITH THE CITY, THE DEPOT, MR. MAGNO.
I ALSO WANT TO THANK MR. HEIM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DID.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'D REALLY LIKE TO FOCUS ON IS, UM, IS TELLING, UH, MR. JIM HEIM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND EFFORT AND ENERGY THAT YOU SPENT ON, UM, PROVIDING THIS FOR US.
EACH OF YOU HAVE, UH, A COPY UP THERE.
IT WAS TOO LARGE WITH THE PHOTOGRAPHS TO EMAIL IN ADVANCE SO YOU HAVE A COPY.
SO, UH, THAT'S YOURS TO KEEP, TAKE A LOOK AT IT IF YOU'D LIKE.
UM, MANY OF THE COUNCILMEN ARE FULLY AWARE OF THE PROBLEMS THERE.
UM, I'LL, I'LL SHORTEN THIS AND MAKE IT REAL, UH, MAKE IT A LITTLE EASIER TO UNDERSTAND.
WE NEED TO SPEND ABOUT 20 GRAND ISH ON ELECTRICAL, FIRST AND FOREMOST TO MAKE IT SAFE AND THEN FIX THE AIR CONDITIONER, WHICH IS ABOUT 13.
UM, AND THEN GO ON FROM THERE WITH RESPECT TO WHAT CAN WE DO IN HOUSE AND, UH, WHAT ARE WE GONNA NEED TO OUTSOURCE.
SO, UM, I, I DO THINK THAT WE HAVE A PLAN.
I'D LIKE TO COME BACK, CIRCLE BACK TO THIS.
I DON'T WANNA TAKE UP TOO MUCH TIME TONIGHT.
UH, MAYOR, UH, IT'S ALREADY BEEN A LONG NIGHT, BUT, UH, AT LEAST YOU HAVE A COPY OF IT.
AND I HAVE A PLAN, I BELIEVE, UM, TO TRY TO GET FUNDING FOR THIS.
AND, UH, AND I'LL CATCH IT BACK UP.
UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFIC TO THE DEPOT? UM, TAKE THAT WITH YOU AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND THAT GIVES YOU A GOOD IDEA.
I KNOW THAT I KNOW THAT THE FOLKS THAT ARE USING THE DEPOT APPRECIATE YOU AS WELL.
'CAUSE IT'S THE BEGINNING OF GETTING THAT THING CORRECTED.
WE JUST GOTTA FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH MONEY WE CAN PUT INTO IT AND, AND HOW, UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO MENTION THAT, UM, MANY OF OUR FACILITIES ARE IN NEED OF IMPROVEMENTS.
AND I'D LIKE TO CIRCLE BACK TO THE LIBRARY.
I TALKED ABOUT THAT THE LAST TIME, THE LAST MEETING, UM, STAFF ALONG WITH THE CITY CONSULTANTS.
UM, OUR ENGINEERING FIRM CONDUCTED A SITE VISIT IN DECEMBER AND, UM, TO, TO KIND OF GET, ASSESS THE OVERALL CONDITION, LONG-TERM VIABILITY.
THAT'S A BIG ONE, LONG-TERM VIABILITY.
THE PURPOSE OF THE REVIEW IS TO IDENTIFY IMMEDIATE SAFETY CONCERNS AND TO EVALUATE WHETHER, UH, WE SHOULD CONTINUE INVESTMENTS IN REPAIRS, IF THAT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE OVER THE LONG-TERM.
AND SO THE FINDINGS OF THAT SUGGESTED THIS, AND THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT I WANT Y'ALL TO GET OUT OF THIS.
IT DOES NOT PRESENT AN IMMEDIATE LIFE SAFETY RISK.
OKAY? I WANNA MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR.
UM, HOWEVER, UM, THERE'S SEVERAL UNDERLYING ISSUES, UH, THE FOUNDATION MOVEMENT.
SO, UM, THE PREVIOUS FOUNDATION REPAIRS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, THAT WE SPENT A FAIR AMOUNT OF MONEY.
AND WHEN I SAY WE TEAM DICKINSON, RIGHT? NOT NECESSARILY THIS ADMINISTRATION.
UM, THE FOUNDATION REPAIRS AND FOAM
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INJECTION REPAIRS, THEY RELEVELED THE BUILDING, BUT IT DID NOT CORRECT THE UNDERLYING ISSUES, THE UNDERLYING ISSUES.WHEN THE ORIGINAL BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED, THEY USED NATIVE MATERIAL AND DID NOT USE SELECT FILL.
SO AT ANY GOOD CONSTRUCTION FOLKS UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS.
THAT CLAY MATERIAL STILL REMAINS UNDER THE FOUNDATION AND IT'S GONNA CAUSE US SOME PROBLEMS. UM, IN ADDITION, THE POOR DRAINAGE SYSTEM IN TREE ROOT INTRUSION FROM THE EXISTING OAK TREES, WHICH ARE BEAUTIFUL, THAT WE CHOSE NOT TO CUT DOWN, IS GONNA CONTINUE TO CREATE FOUNDATION MOVEMENT.
UM, THAT FOAM THAT THEY USED AS A TEMPORARY FIX.
UM, WE HAVE SOME MOISTURE AND AIR INTRUSION ISSUES AS WELL, UM, WHICH IS CREATING SOME HVAC ISSUES.
AND, UH, RIGHT NOW HVAC HAS BEEN, UM, CAUSING US PROBLEMS IN MANY OF OUR BUILDINGS.
AND SO IT'S A COMPOUNDING EFFECT.
UM, THE MOISTURE INTRUSION, THE FOUNDATION MOVEMENT, HVAC INEFFICIENCIES ARE ALL INTERCONNECTED.
THEY'RE ALL WORKING TOGETHER AND ALL CREATING PROBLEMS. UM, AND ADDRESSING ONLY ONE OF THOSE ISSUES WITHOUT RESOLVING ALL OF THEM.
UM, IT'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA RESULT IN A DURABLE OR COST EFFECTIVE SOLUTION.
SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? UM, WHILE THE BUILDING REMAINS SAFE, I WANNA GET THAT CLEAR.
OUR STAFF IS DOING A GREAT JOB.
UM, IT'S STILL SAFE FOR OCCUPANCY IN THE NEAR TERM.
UM, RIGHT NOW, UM, WITH WITH WITH THAT FINDING, UH, YOUR, YOUR STAFF DOES NOT RECOMMEND ANY CONTINUED SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL INVESTMENT INTO THAT EXISTING FACILITY.
INCREMENTAL REPAIRS, I, THESE BANDAIDS THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, PUT ON THE BUILDING ARE UNLIKELY TO RESOLVE THE ROOT CAUSE OF THE FOUNDATION AND MOISTURE ISSUES AND MAY RESULT IN ONGOING MAINTENANCE COSTS WITHOUT EXTENDING THE BUILDING'S USEFUL LIFE.
SO, UM, I THINK WE NEED TO START CONSIDERING, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION, SOME TRUE ALTERNATIVES TO MAJOR REINVESTMENT IN THAT EXISTING BUILDING AND CONSIDER LONG-TERM REPLACEMENT RELOCATION REDEVELOPMENT OPTIONS RATHER THAN PURSUING, UH, ADDITIONAL COSTLY REPAIRS FOR THAT PARTICULAR BUILDING.
AND OBVIOUSLY I KNOW THAT THIS IS, UH, NOT SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL ARE ALL GONNA SAY.
THERE'S OBVIOUSLY NEEDS TO BE MORE DISCUSSION HAD, BUT I NEED Y'ALL TO KNOW THAT THAT DISCUSSION NEEDS TO START OCCURRING NOW.
UM, BECAUSE THAT'S A, THAT'S PROBABLY FIVE YEARS AND WE NEED TO MAKE THAT, WE NEED TO START TALKING ABOUT IT NOW.
I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO SNEAK UP ON US.
SO, UM, SO THERE'S THE DEPOT, THERE'S THE LIBRARY.
THAT'S THE TWO REALLY MAIN CONCERNS.
WE HAVE OTHER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, UM, FACILITY ISSUES, BUT I DON'T WANNA HOLD THIS UP TOO LONG TONIGHT WITH THOSE SPECIFIC PROBLEMS. SO QUESTIONS, DO YOU KNOW OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD HOW MUCH MONEY WAS SPENT ON TRYING TO FIX THAT LIBRARY A COUPLE YEARS AGO? NO SIR.
I, UH, I, I'D BE LYING TO YOU IF I TOLD YOU THAT.
UH, I SPENT ANY TIME LOOKING AT HOW MUCH MONEY WE PUT INTO THAT.
WHEN, WHEN WAS IT, DO YOU KNOW THE TIME, THE DATE? 20 20 22.
IS THAT CORRECT? MR. CAREY? 2022.
COULDN'T REMEMBER FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, WE USED TWO SEPARATE COMPANIES.
ONE DID THE INTERIOR, LIKE CORRECTIVE THE, THE CRACKS AND SO FORTH.
THE OTHER ONE DID THE FOUNDATION WORK.
AND UN UNFORTUNATELY THE FOUNDATION WORK WAS, WAS A TEMPORARY FIX.
IT WAS, HEY, THIS WILL BUY Y'ALL SOME TIME.
IS, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE ADDRESSED WITH, UM, GRANTS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, I KNOW LI THE LIBRARY SPECIFICALLY, THERE IS A LOT OF STATE FED MONEY THAT COULD HELP.
I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
YEAH, I WOULD LOVE TO THINK THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY GET SOME FUNDING FOR THE FACILITY ITSELF OR THE STRUCTURE, BUT I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, BUT I'LL FIND OUT.
I, MY FIRST THOUGHT IS TO REACH OUT TO A GRANT SPECIALIST WHO, UH, HAS BEEN KIND OF WORKING WITH US AND, AND SEE IF SHE HAS ANY, UH, THOUGHTS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL? I THINK THE MAIN THING WAS TO WHEN, ONCE AGAIN, IF THIS COMES UP, RATHER THAN HAVING THIS, JUST THEM HAVING THE DISCUSSION, I'D RATHER THEM COME TELL US SO WE CAN SOMEWHAT HAVE A, A RUNWAY TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION.
NOT TRYING TO BE DOOMSDAY, REALLY NOT.
I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED SOME STRATEGIC LONG-TERM PLANNING AND THAT DISCUSSION NEEDS TO START NOW.
ALRIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE FOR, UH, SEVEN E OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE ON? ALRIGHT, MOVING ON SEVEN
[7.F Discussion and possible action on a plan to adjust or remove medians on F.M. 517 W between I-45 and F.M. 646. (Magliolo) ]
F DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A PLAN TO ADJUST OR MOVE MEDIANS ON FIVE FM FIVE 17 WEST BETWEEN I 45 AND FM FOUR, UH, 6 46.UM, I PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA ITEM.
I WANTED TO BRING IT TO EVERYONE'S ATTENTION.
I ASKED THE QUESTION TO TXDOT, UH, BASICALLY WHEN WE WERE IN OUR MEETING SAID, IF OUR CITY WANTS TO, UM, PAY FOR AND, UH, REEVALUATE THE MEDIANS AS LONG
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AS WE DO IT UNDER THEIR, UM, STANDARDS, SO THEIR BUILDING STANDARDS, IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN ENTERTAIN? UM, PARTLY BECAUSE OF THE ECONOMIC DOWNTURN THAT WE'VE TAKEN SINCE THEY'VE GONE IN.UM, THEY SAID ABSOLUTELY THEY'LL, THEY WILL DO THAT.
UM, THEY ARE NOT, BASICALLY THE REASON WHY, UH, WHY THAT CAME UP IS THEY BASICALLY SAID THERE IS NO MORE FUNDS TO BE ALLOCATED FOR THE NEXT THREE TO FOUR YEARS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT TXDOT SPECIFIC PROJECTS.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT THE IDEA OF BASICALLY CUTTING IN WHERE WE CAN ACCESS ALL OF THE BUSINESSES, ALL OF THE STREETS ALONG FIVE 17.
SO NOW OUR CITIZENS THAT LIVE ON NER OR PABST OR ROUTE OR JUST NAME THE LIST DOWN FIVE 17, THEY CAN ACTUALLY GET TO THEIR HOUSES.
UM, ALSO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, I WATCH THEM COME OUTTA MY OFFICE, RIGHT? EVERY SINGLE DAY.
THERE ARE MULTIPLE MEDIANS THAT MAKE NO SENSE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT SAFETY.
SO TDOT SAID THAT THEY WOULD LET US ENTERTAIN THAT IF WE WANTED TO.
I WANTED TO BRING IT TO THE COUNCIL'S ATTENTION TO SEE WHAT Y'ALL THOUGHT ABOUT IT.
UH, OUTTA CURIOSITY, WILL WE HAVE TO ADHERE TO SOME OF THEIR TIMELINES? 'CAUSE IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, UH, WHEN THEY WERE PUT IN, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DECIDED LIKE, I DON'T WANNA SAY ALMOST 10 YEARS AGO OR MORE.
UM, 'CAUSE I, I REMEMBER THE ONLY, I REMEMBER IN 22, UH, HEARING THAT THE LAST PUBLIC MEETING WAS PROBABLY LIKE 2017 BEFORE THEY STARTED WORK.
AND ACTUALLY, SO PART OF THE DISCUSSIONS IN THESE QUARTERLY MEETINGS, WHAT CAME ACROSS FROM IT WAS THEY DESIGNED THOSE MEETINGS MEDIANS IN LIKE 2016.
AND THEN ALL THE DEVELOPMENT WENT IN AFTER THAT THEY NEVER REDESIGNED THE MEDIANS.
AND THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE THIS REALLY CRAZY MISMANAGEMENT OF STUFF.
UM, AND I WAS LIKE, OKAY, WELL Y'ALL NEED TO FIX IT.
AND THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE TO.
SO IF WE WANT TO ENTERTAIN IT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT BETWEEN THE DMD AND THE EDC.
WE COULD, WE COULD FUND IT OUT OF THOSE PROGRAMS SPECIFICALLY MM-HMM
TO HELP FIX THAT BECAUSE OF WHAT IT'S DOING TO OUR BUSINESSES AND WHAT DOING TO, WELL THAT'S, WE, WE WOULD HAVE TO ACTUALLY GO AND BID IT OUT AND GET THAT.
DO YOU HAVE A COST ON WHAT IT WOULD TO TAKE 'EM ALL OUT? I HAVE NO, I, NO, IT GO BACK LIKE IT WOULD.
SO WOULD THAT BE US HIRING TXDOT TO REMOVE THEM? NO.
WELL WE'D BE, WE, IT'D BE A WHOLE A HUNDRED PERCENT PROJECT ON OUR OWN.
WE WOULD JUST HAVE THEM APPROVE IT SINCE IT'S THEIR ROAD.
JUST LIKE THEY DID IN COLLEGE STATION.
WHERE THE CITY PULLED UP ALL THE MEDIAN AT TX FOUR.
SO IF WE WANNA SPEND THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY TO RIP 'EM ALL OUT AND BASICALLY LAY THAT PAVEMENT BACK DOWN, THAT'S, THAT'S ON OUR PREROGATIVE.
HOWEVER, WE COULD ALSO JUST ADJUST SMALL PIECES AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO BRING IT UP TO SEE WHAT WE WANT TO FORWARD WITH OR AN IDEA.
I'M TIRED OF EVERYONE COMPLAINING ABOUT IT.
LET'S SEE IF WE CAN ACTUALLY FIX IT.
I WAS GONNA ASK IF THE MEDIANS ARE POURED ON TOP OF THE PLATE.
ARE THEY? AND I, I KNOW PART OH, THEY DID DRILL DRILL HOLES IN DRILL DOW GUARD AND POUR CONCRETE ON TOP OF IT.
SO ESSENTIALLY WE COULD JUST, YES.
YEAH, I WAS GONNA ASK FOR CLARIFICATION.
YOU SAID THAT THEY GAVE YOU PERMISSION TO EVALUATE, TO STUDY, TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO TAKE, TAKE, TAKE THEM OUT.
SO TO ACTUALLY SAY, LET'S SEE WHAT IT WOULD COST US TO DO THIS.
AND THEN WE SAY, TDOT, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO TO YOUR ROAD.
ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT? AND THEY EITHER SAY YES OR NO.
SO, BUT THAT IS NOT A DECISION FOR ME TO MAKE IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.
UM, BUT I'M GONNA AT LEAST ASK THE QUESTIONS.
'CAUSE LIKE I SAID, I HAVE TO HEAR IT FROM EVERYBODY ABOUT THOSE DANG MEDIANS.
SO I GUESS WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT COST TO DO AN EVALUATION AND STUDY, BECAUSE I'M SURE THEY'RE GONNA REQUIRE A STUDY.
SO, AND THEN THAT WOULD BE THE OTHER THING IS WE WOULD HAVE TO DO SOME DIGGING.
SO THIS IS GONNA BE ON STAFF AS WELL TO, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PULL TRAFFIC INFORMATION TO MAKE SURE WE CAN PROVE A CASE OF WHY WE NEED TO DO IT.
HOW WE, UH, HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THIS AGENDA ITEM? CAN WE JUST MAKE A, A MOTION TO, WE CAN MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, BASICALLY DIRECT STAFF.
UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, THIS WAS JUST THE FIRST TIME WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.
DO WE, WE DON'T NEED A MOTION.
DO WE EVEN NEED A MOTION? YEAH, WE DON'T EVEN NEED A MOTION.
'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN OUR BUDGET TO ADDRESS THAT WITH.
AND THAT'S ALSO WHY WE'D HAVE TO BRING UP, IT MIGHT BE A BUDGET AMENDMENT, BUT IT MIGHT BE A BUDGET AMENDMENT THROUGH DMD OR EDC MIGHT NOT BE GENERAL FUND OTHER.
IT MIGHT BE A BUDGET ITEM FOR THE NEXT PHYSICAL YEAR.
AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO RIGHT NOW.
'CAUSE THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER CAVEAT OFF OF THAT.
WE CAN'T USE OUR STREET AND MAINTENANCE FUND ANYWAYS.
IT'S, IT'S A COUNTY OR STATE RAN HIGHWAY, SO WE CAN'T TOUCH IT WITH THOSE FUNDS.
SO THERE ARE WAYS WE CAN DO IT.
I JUST WANTED TO SEE, KIND OF SEE IF WE WANTED TO GET STAFF TO KIND OF GO AND LOOK AT THOSE OPTIONS, YOU MIGHT
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SAY, GO AHEAD AND PUT TOGETHER, AT LEAST SOLICIT RFPS SO THAT YOU CAN GET SOME GENERAL IDEA OF COST.UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT SEVEN F? ALL RIGHT.
[7.G Consideration and possible action to appoint a representative(s) to the Southeast Texas Housing Finance Corporation ("SETH") for a specified term. (Administration)]
CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPOINT A REPRESENTATIVE TO THE SOUTHEAST TEXAS HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, ALSO KNOWN AS SETH, FOR A SPECIFIC TER UH, SPEC, SPEC SPECIFIED TERM MOVE TO APPOINT CHASE CAREY.GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE MR. CHASE.
CAREY? DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS ABOUT SETH? UM, ALRIGHT.
ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSED A TERM.
SO SIR, I JUST DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO COME BACK AND DO THIS AGAIN, SO I APOLOGIZE, BUT IT NEEDS TO HAVE A TERM.
SO, SO FOR HOWEVER MANY YEARS, IT'S UP TO US.
YEAH, I THINK WE DID TWO YEARS.
SETH DOESN'T CARE, BUT IT DOES NEED TO HAVE A TERM.
SO, UM, CURRENTLY, UH, MR. HOLT IS THE, UM, IS I RESIGNED.
UM, SO I'LL SPEAK TO THIS ITEM.
SO, YOU KNOW, I, UH, VOLUNTEERED FOR THIS COMMITTEE, UM, NOT KNOWING ACTUALLY WHEN THEY, UH, VOLUNTEERED.
WE JUST NEEDED SOMEBODY TO YES, SIR, TO BE PRESENT.
AND IT TURNS OUT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEIR MEETINGS IS AT 10:00 AM SO, UM, I, I, I WAS SORT OF ANTICIPATING IT'S GONNA BE SOME KIND OF EVENINGS OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING I COULD ATTEND, BUT 10:00 AM IS REALLY, REALLY DIFFICULT TO MAKE.
SO I, YOU KNOW, SO I, I COULDN'T DO A GOOD JOB REPRESENTING THE CITY THERE, SO I HAD TO, UH, RESIGN FROM THAT.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THIS CAME INTO PLAY.
SO I HAVE ALREADY OFFICIALLY SENT, SO MY QUESTION REALLY WAS ABOUT JUST, UM, FILLING AN EX AN EXISTING TERM THAT ALREADY EXISTS.
THAT, THAT I THINK THAT WILL SUFFICE FOR SETH, ASSUMING THAT THAT'S WHAT THE LANGUAGE IS THAT WE VOTE ON.
AS LONG AS THE RESOLUTION PICKS UP WHERE I LEFT OFF.
I HAVEN'T ACTUALLY BEEN TO THE FIRST MEETING, WHICH IS NEXT MONTH.
I HATE TO HAVE TO BRING THIS BACK SETH AGAIN.
YOU, SO THAT MOTION WORK OR DO WE NEED TO DO IT? MOTION? MR. MR. ATTORNEY SOUNDS LIKE THE BODY IS AGREEING THAT IT WAS JUST TO FILL AN UNEXPIRED TIME.
SO WE DON'T NEED TO, OKAY, PERFECT.
ALRIGHT, WELL THEN MOTION PASS.
UH, AND THEN I GUESS WE GOTTA GO INTO
[8. EXECUTIVE (CLOSED) SESSION(S) (Part 2 of 2)]
EXECUTIVE SESSION NOW.UH, AND WE WILL GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.071.
ALRIGHT, SO LET'S OPEN IT BACK UP AT, WHAT TIME
[9.ACTION ITEMS FROM EXECUTIVE (CLOSED) SESSION(S)]
IS IT? IT IS 9 46.AND WHERE DID MY STUFF GO? I WILL GET THERE.
UH, SO WE HAVE, WHAT IS THAT? NINE NINE A, UH, A SO ACTION ITEMS WERE NINE A.
I MOVED TO AUTHORIZE STAFF TO PROVIDE PINNACLE DEVELOPMENT, A WRITTEN DETERMINATION THAT THE CITY OF DICKINSON DECLINES TO ACT ON PINNACLE'S REQUEST THAT THE CITY ANALYZE THE PRO, PRO, UH, PROPRIETY OF TN MP'S DEMAND FOR REPAYMENT OF A CONTRIBUTION AND AID OF CONSTRUCTION.
DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MOST LIKELY NOT ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
[10.FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]
10.FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. ANYBODY GOT ANYTHING? YEP.
I'D LIKE A DISCUSSION AS TO, UH, PUTTING FORTH A PLAN TO COLLECT PAST DUE HOT TAXES FROM OUR SHORT TERM RENTALS.
ALRIGHT, SO DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION OF HOT, HOT TAX AND RENTALS.
ANYTHING ELSE? PAST DUE? WHAT'D YOU SAY PAST DUE? WELL, I JUST, COLLECTION DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PAST DUE.
I WAS GONNA SAY THE COLLECTION OF ALL HOT, UH, YEAH.
ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT WE'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT? NEXT MEETING? OBVIOUSLY IF YOU COME UP WITH SOMETHING, JUST REACH ON OVER TO, UH, MR. KERRY.
IF NOT, THEN THAT TAKES US TO NUMBER 11.