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ALRIGHT.[1. CALL TO ORDER AND CERTIFICATION OF A QUORUM]
NOT SPEAK FROM THE CHAIRS BECAUSE, OKAY.6 33 RECORD AND ACTION CERTIFICATION FORM.
OKAY, WE HAVE BRUCE HENDERSON, MARJORIE MORGAN HERE.
PHILLIP LIPOMA HERE AND WILLIAM BROWN.
WE HAVE CORRUM STAN OUR HEAVEN.
FATHER, WE JUST PRAISE YOUR NAME AND THANK YOU THAT WE CAN GATHER TOGETHER AND MAKE DECISIONS THAT AFFECT THE, AND WE JUST, UH, ASK YOU TO KEEP YOUR HAND ON ALL THOSE, UM, PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD AND SOLDIERS AND OTHERS THAT ARE MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN DO SO BY KEEPING US SAFE.
AND WE ASK THIS NEW PRECIOUS NAME BEING MATCH MINUTES AND THE FLAG IS NOT HERE.
WE WILL THINK ABOUT IT BUT WE DON'T DO IT
SO THIS TIME MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY INVITED TO GIVE COMMENTS AT THIS TIME LASTING ONE MORE THAN TWO MINUTES.
COMMENTS MAY BE NONE IN NATURE OR MAY ADDRESS THE SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM AND SHOULD BE DIRECTED AT THE ENTIRE COMMISSION.
NOT AN INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION OR STAFF.
ANY SPEAKER MAKING PERSONAL TAX OR USING BOULDER OR PROPANE LANGUAGE SHALL FORCE FIT HIS OR REMAINING TIME AND SHALL BE SEAT IF IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE
SO DO WE HAVE, OKAY, SO WE'LL WE'LL GO ON TO THE ACTUAL ITEM AND THEN HAVE IT AT THAT TIME RIGHT BASIS.
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NOW AT UH, 6 35 CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING THE REQUEST TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP FROM NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION ZONING, UH, DISTRICT TO, UH, URBAN TRANSITION UT ZONING DIS DISTRICT FOR FOUR PARCELS OF LAND, APPROXIMATELY UH, 0.19 ACRES LOCATED AT 4 4 0 4 EAST 25TH STREET.PARCEL ID 6 1 2 2 7 0 AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS PIER SUBDIVISION 2016 ABSTRACT 78 BLOCKS FIVE R ACRES 0.193 AND 0.21 ACRES LOCATED AT 4 4 1 OH EAST 25TH STREET.
AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS THE YEARS OF DIVISION 2016, ABSTRACT 78 LOT SEVEN R ACRES 0.2109 AND APPROXIMATELY, UH, PLUS OR MINUS 0.19 ACRES LOCATED AT 4 4 1 6 EAST 25TH STREET.
PARCEL ID 6 1 2 2 7 2 AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS PIERRE SUBDIVISION.
TWO 16 AFTER X 78 LOT 10 R ACRES, 0.19 AND APPROXIMATELY 0.19 ACRES LOCATED AT 4 4 2 6 EAST 25TH STREET.
AND LADY YOU DESCRIBED AS ABSTRACT 78 R PAUL SR SIR NORTH ONE 20 FEET OF UH, AND MAYBE ABANDONED RIGHT AWAY BETWEEN BLOCKS ONE NINE BETWEEN BLOCKS 1 9 5 AND 1 96 1 95.
UH, DASH ONE DASH ONE NICKEL STONE EDITION.
SO WE'LL START WITH THE STAFF PRESENTATION.
ALRIGHT, GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING.
UH, THIS IS AN APPLICATION, UH, THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FOR REZONING OF FOUR PARCELS.
UH, WHAT MIGHT STAND OUT TO Y'ALL THAT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS ZONING REQUEST IS TWO OF THESE PARCELS ARE ALREADY DEVELOPED.
UH, SO TWO ARE VACANT AND FOUR CURRENTLY HAVE A, A FOURPLEX, A MULTIPLEX BUILT ON THEM.
UH, SO THIS HAS KIND OF COME TO A HEAD 'CAUSE THE APPLICANT IS INTENDING TO DEVELOP, UH, THE TWO UNDEVELOPED LOTS THE SAME DEVELOPED.
UH, SO ONE OF THESE FULL DUPLEX WITH THE EXISTING ONE WAS BUILT BEFORE THIS AREA WAS ANNEXED BY THE CITY, SO IT WAS IN THE COUNTY.
UH, AND THEN ONE WAS BUILT AFTER IT WAS ANNEXED TO THE CITY BUT WAS STILL WITHIN VESTING PD.
UH, SO THIS TIME THE VESTING PERIOD HAS, UH, ELAPSED.
SO OUR CONVERSATION WITH THE APPLICANT WAS TO
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PROCEED WITH BUILDING MULTIPLE GIVEN REASON.PREVIOUS ZONING DID SUPPORT MULTIPLE EITHER
I DID WANNA CLARIFY THAT, UH, ALTHOUGH THE, THE APPLICANT, UH, STATES HE INTENDS TO DO THE SAME TYPE DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENT, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A ZONING CHANGE.
SO ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT IS COMMITTED, YOU KNOW, IN THE URBAN TRANSITION DISTRICT FURTHER REQUEST THE NEXT SLIDE.
AND SO THAT'S KIND WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT HERE.
UH, AN APARTMENT, A TOWNHOUSE, A MULTIPLEX DUPLEX AND OFFICIAL ATTACH HOME IS ALL PERMITTED IN THE URBAN TRANSITION DISTRICT.
SO HE'S INTENDING TO DO THE MULTIPLEX.
IT DOES HAVE SOME, UH, LIMITED USE STANDARDS.
IT'S MOSTLY BUMPER GARAGES AND PARKING.
NEXT, UH, THIS IS JUST OVERHEAD VIEW OF THE, THESE ARE TWO EXISTING, UH, THEY SEEM BE PRETTY REASONABLY MAINTAINED.
BIG SHAVE, THESE ARE A PUBLIC NOTICE SIGN THAT PLACED ON SITE.
OKAY, NEXT, THESE ARE PHOTOS PROVIDED BY THE APP.
UM, SOME THINGS THAT I PUT OF NOTE, UM, THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED IF THIS, UH, THE ZONING CHAMBER IS APPROVED AND THE MULTIPLE IS DEVELOPED, UH, IS THAT ONE THERE WOULD BE A BUFFER YARD REQUIRED ON THE LOTS THAT, THE LOTS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE URBAN REMISSION, THE I CONSERVATION THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED BY
UH, SO IT'S EITHER 15 FEET WITH A SIX FOOT DRAW OR 26 FEET WITH A FOUR FOOT EARTH BURN
IT REQUIRE ONE AND A HALF PARKING SPACES, SIX FOOT
SO THAT'S THE DEFINED A NINE BY 20 PAGE.
SO IT FOUR UNITS, THAT PARTY HAS PARKING SPACE.
THE CURRENT TAXABLE VALUE FOR THE DEVELOPED LOTS IS ROUGHLY $428,000 VERSUS $32,000 FOR THE BANK OF PROPERTY.
A BENEFITS IN CITY OF DICKSON AND THAT CENTS MM-HMM
THIS SHOULD NOT THE, UH, DETRIMENT TO SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
THE CURRENT MULTIPLEXES ARE UPKEPT IN POST DEVELOPMENT.
UH, WE WILL HAVE IMPROVED PROPERTY STANDARDS DUE TO OUR BUILDING DEVELOPMENT CODE, LANDSCAPING AND
THE 25TH STREET IS CLASSIFIED AS A LOCAL STREET AND SHOULD BE ADEQUATE TO THE PROB OF FAMILY USE ONLY FOR UNIT SHOULD NOT GENERATE, UH, MUCH ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC AND SHOULD NOT CAUSE ON CONGESTION NOISE OR TRAFFIC HAZARD.
OVERALL, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND THIS REQUEST TO AMEND THE GOING OUT FROM CONSERVATION TO URBAN COLLISION, UH, FOR THESE FOUR LIVES.
CONCLUDE MY CLARIFICATION, I YOU ASK, OF COURSE NOT, NOT AT THIS TIME, BUT YOU WILL HAVE YOUR OPPORTUNITY.
SIR, AT THIS TIME, THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE AN OFFICER TO PRESENT.
THANK AND GENTLEMEN, FIRST OF ALL, GOOD EVENING AND HAPPY MEETING HERE.
I HOPE THAT, UH, THIS ISSUE BRING EVERYBODY WHAT THEY WISH FOR.
UH, JUST GONNA GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW, EXCUSE ME, YOUR NAME AND YOUR, YOUR PERSONAL ADDRESS.
MY PERSONAL ADDRESS IS AT 1 0 1 LONG SPRING LANE, DICKSON DEXA 7 7 5 3 9.
UM, I, UH, JUST A QUICK, UH, ABOVE MYSELF.
SERVED, UH, 25 YEARS IN THE NAVY AS, UH, A PILOT.
UH, MY LAST STATION WAS IN THE CORPUS, CHRISTY, TEXAS AS AN INSTRUCTOR PILOT.
WHEN I WAS DONE, I MOVED UP HERE IN 20, IN 2004.
AND AT THAT TIME WE, I PURCHASED A, UH, TWO ACRE TRACK AND I, UH, DID ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE SPEND, YOU KNOW, THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO KIND OF GET IT, UH, SERVE IT UP.
SO ORIGINALLY I WAS GONNA BUILD NINE BUILDINGS AND, BUT WE HAD TO GO AHEAD AND PAY, UH, THE CITY TO BRING THE WATER IN THE SEWAGE FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, DUG UNDERNEATH TO COME ON THIS SIDE.
SO THAT WAS MY INTENT, UH, FROM, FROM DAY ONE TO JUST BUILD OUT AND BUILD OUT.
UNFORTUNATELY, I BUILT MY FIRST BUILDING IN 2006 WHEN IT WAS COMPLETED, IT WAS 2007.
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AND I THINK EVERYBODY IS FAMILIAR WITH WHAT HAPPENED IN 2008 HOUSING CRISIS.SO NO BANKS WAS LAYING IN FUNDING OR CASH OR ANYTHING.
SO WE WAITED AND WAITED AND THEN SEVERAL YEARS LATER HAD DEPUTY HUMANITY APPROACH ME AND SAID, HEY, WOULD YOU MIND SELLING THE FIVE LOTS ON 26TH STREET? AND I SAID, SURE.
AND SO I SAW THEY COULD HAVE ANYTHING THAT THE HOUSING WAS GONNA EVER COME BACK.
BY THE TIME WHEN I DID IT, GALVESTON COUNTY OWNED IT.
SO THEN SEVERAL YEARS LATER, IT WAS ANNEXED BY, UH, THE CITY OF DICKINSON IN 2017, WE BILLED THE SECOND ONE.
AT THAT TIME, I KNEW I WAS GONNA BUILD TWO MORE.
SO WE GOT A, UH, A NOTE FROM THE DIRECTOR AT THAT TIME SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN BE, UH, BE HONEST, AS TRAVIS HAS SAID, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE EVER TURNED DOWN THAT STREET.
I HAVE BEEN CUTTING THAT GRASS FOR THE LAST, WHAT, 20 YEARS.
YOU KNOW, I MADE SURE THAT MY, UH, TENANTS KEEP UP THE YARD.
WE DON'T LEAVE THE CRASH OUTSIDE.
WE DON'T HAVE BICYCLES OUT IN FRONT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA ENCOURAGE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'M SORRY, ENCOURAGE S AND THESES AND ALL THAT STUFF.
SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS WE HAD TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND I THINK BY BUILDING THESE TWO UNITS WILL BENEFIT, UH, THE CITY.
THE REASON WHY I BUILT IS BECAUSE EVERY MULTI UH, FAMILY UNIT AT THE TIME, AND, UH, THE CITY OF TON FOR THOSE OF 40 YEARS OLD, IT'S A BRAND NEW.
MY BILL IS RIGHT THERE, UH, UH, MASON.
SO WE KIND OF DO A, I THINK WE DO A, A GREAT JOB.
I THINK IF THIS IS APPROVED, IT WILL NOT HAVE ANY IMPACT BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY THERE.
AND IN ORDER TO GET THIS APPROVED, YOU WANTED THE CITY OF GALVESTON, UH, COUNTY OWNED IT.
I HAD TO WALK AROUND AND GO TO EVERY NEIGHBOR AND GET SIGNATURES.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, CIRCUMSTANCES HAPPENED.
WE BILLED THE SECOND ONE IN 2017, AND WHEN THAT ONE WAS DONE, I FILLED IT OUT.
MY CLIENTS BILLED, WAIT, TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS, BUT THEN EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED IN 2020.
COVID HAPPENED, SO THEN I CAN, UH, BILL.
SO ANYWAY, THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.
SORRY TO TAKE, UH, YOUR TIME, UH, UH, BUT I THINK I WILL CONTINUE TO BE A GOOD LANDLORD.
I THINK IT WILL BRING, UH, UH, VALUE TO THE PROPERTY THAT SURROUNDS IT.
AND I'VE HAD NO WITH, WITH ANYONE IN THERE.
AND MY RENTAL PRICES ARE WELL BELOW WHAT, UH, THOSE FOLKS ARE DOING.
SO IF YOU'RE GOING, UH, HIGHWAY 96, THE APARTMENTS OVER THERE, YOU CAN GET A MAYBE 800 AND 901 BEDROOM STUDIO, LIKE $1,400.
THESE ARE TWO BEDROOMS, TWO BATHS, PATIO IN THE FRONT PATIO IN THE BACK WITH ACCESS IN THE BATH FOR KIDS TO PLAN ALL THAT STUFF.
SO I'M, WELL, WELL, WELL BELOW THE MARKET.
SO I'M PROUD TO BE A MEMBER OF, UH, DICKINSON.
I HOPE, UH, YOU GUYS WILL APPROVE IT AND I'LL CONTINUE BEING THE LANDLORD, NOT A LANDLORD.
AND NOW WE WILL HEAR, WE, UH, I GUESS
YOU'LL HAVE TO SPEAK AT THE, THERE'S ACTUALLY A STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
IT'S RECORDED, SO THAT'S WHY
I LIVE ON 43 0 4 20 FIFTH STREET.
AND I BEEN THERE, WELL, I'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 1993 WHEN I, AS I WAS, UH, WENT COUNTY WHEN I MOVED IN AND OUT IN KING CITY, THESE APARTMENTS WERE TALKING ABOUT.
I USED TO WALK MY DOG BY 'EM EVERY DAY.
AND I TALKED TO LI TENANTS TO LIVE THERE AND MANY OF 'EM COMPLAINED TO ME ABOUT BACKED UP SEWERS AND THE SEWER WAS ALWAYS BACKING UP AND THEY COULDN'T, THEY COULDN'T GET IT REPRIMANDED.
AND UH, THERE'S BARELY ENOUGH PARKING SPACES THERE FOR THE TENANTS THAT ARE THERE.
AND, AND IF THEY, IF THEY HAVE NO PLACE PARKING ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, PARKING LOT IS FILLED UP.
AND THAT ONE FIFTH STREET IS A VERY NARROW STREET.
ANYWAY, WE HAVE THE SILVER VAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ON THE, ON THE STREET.
AND WHEN THE TRAFFIC, WHEN THE, WHEN THE PARENTS ARE THERE LETTING THEIR CHILDREN OUT AND PICK IN THE MORNINGS
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AND PICK THEM UP IN THE AFTERNOON.I'M SURPRISED THERE HASN'T BEEN ACCIDENTS BECAUSE THEY'RE DRIVING, THEY'RE DRIVING DOWN BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD AND IN THE CENTER OF THE ROAD, THE DRIVING THROUGH THE DITCH, THEY'RE CONSTANTLY DRIVING THROUGH MY DITCH IN THE RAINY SEASON.
AND I HAVE TO GET OUT THERE WITH A SHOVEL AND FILL UP THE RUTS IN ORDER THAT I CAN MOW IT BECAUSE COURSE THE CITY DOESN'T MOW IT.
AND IF I DON'T REPAIR THE BUCKET, THE RUTS, THEN I CAN, SO THE PROPERTY'S GONNA BE THAT MUCH MORE TRAGIC, BE THAT MUCH MORE CONGESTION.
AND, UH, I, I DON'T SEE WHERE MY PROPERTY VALUE IS GONNA GO LOOK, SO IT'LL PROBABLY GO DOWN.
THAT JUST, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
UH, NEXT, UH, YOU'LL HEAR FROM HOLLY, YOU PLEASE,
STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE.
I'M ALI K LIVE 45 20 FIFTH STREET,
AND UH, THE REASON WHY I APPEAR HERE IS BECAUSE OF THE SAME CONCERNS THAT
AND IF THE CAR PARKS ON THE STREET, IT LITERALLY MAKES IN ONE LANE.
EVERYBODY HAS WENT THROUGH THE TRAFFIC GOES WHERE THEY CAN GO AROUND YOU.
AND WHAT MAKES THIS SITUATION A LITTLE BIT GROSS IS THE SCHOOL.
WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF PARENTS WHO LINE UP TWICE A DAY, BROUGHT OFF THE CHURCH, THE WHOLE SIDE.
ONE LANE OF THAT SPEED IS COMPLETELY FILLED WITH CO FROM TEXAS AVENUE ALL THE WAY TO SEA.
I TOOK THE TRAFFIC AND IT'S LIKE OFTEN TIME I CAN'T GET OUT OF MY DRIVE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE ALREADY FRONT AND YOU HAVE TO NEGOTIATE.
SOMEBODY HAS TO BACK UP, SOMEBODY HAS TO FORWARD SO I CAN GET AWAY.
AND IF THEY NEED A CAR COMING, I HAVE NO
AND I KNOW MR. PI MET THE FIRST TIME HE CAME OVER THERE TO BUSINESS FIRST VERY NICELY.
AND I CERTAINLY DO NOT WANNA STAND ON THE WAY OF HIS PROGRESS.
BUT THE ISSUE IS THAT WE HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM, THIS CONGESTION WITH TRAFFIC, IF AT LEAST THERE WAS SOME SHOULDER OR CAUSE TO NEGOTIATE AROUND, MAYBE IT COULD WORK.
BUT THE PRESENT SITUATION UNDER THE PRESENT CIRCUMSTANCES, IT IS NOT FREE.
IT'S NOT FAIR IF THE PARENTS WANT WALK UP WITH CHILDREN, IT'S NOT FAIR TO, THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY IS NOT RELEVANT TO MR. PIERCE'S PARENTS WHO WOULD HAVE THE SAME ISSUE THAT YOUR OFFICE.
SO UNTIL SUCH TIME, UH, THE CITY CAN ADDRESS THIS S GRAPHIC ISSUE, I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IF YOU CONSIDER THE COMMUNITY'S OVERALL WELFARE AND EITHER ADDRESS WITH THE, THE PROBLEM WITH THE TWO LADY AND THE SHOULDER, OR AT LEAST FOR THE TIME BEING PULLED OFF ON THAT MOVIE, CREATING ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU ALL FOR TAKING THE TIME IN
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UH, KNOW TOM YOUNG.I LIVE AT THE 45 13 20 STREET.
SO ABOUT IN THE QUARTER OF, UH, TEXAS 25TH AND NOVEMBER 5TH.
MY CONCERN IS ANY SORT OF IMPLICATION, TRAFFIC WITH NORTH AVENUE, WELL MORE MULTIFAMILY UNIT, UH, ON THAT LITTLE MATTER STRETCH UP, ESPECIALLY IN CIRCUMSTANCE BECAUSE OF THE SCHOOL.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SOME OTHER WAY TO DEAL WITH THAT, BUT, BUT I THINK, UH, IT KEPT THAT SINGLE FAMILY HOUSED AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WOULDN'T HAVE AS MANY PEOPLE EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT THAT HUGE OF A DIFFERENCE.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST SOME CONSIDERATIONS SHOULD BE GIVEN TO THAT.
CAN I ADD ONE THING? I FORGOT TO MOVE.
THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE SPEAKING OF IN AND AROUND 25TH STREET, 22ND STREET AND 25TH STREET ARE THE ONLY MAIN ARTERIES INTO THE COMMUNITY.
THE ONLY OTHER MAIN ARTERY THAT CORRECT ME IF I'M CORRECTLY WRONG, THERE'S ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 34TH STREET.
THERE'S THE, IT'S THE ONLY OTHER ROAD THAT CUTS ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO OUR STREET IS THE ONLY ARTERY.
IT IS THE ONLY WAY FOR THEM TO GET INTO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, NO, THEY DON'T LIVE ON 25TH STREET.
THEY LIVE ON 26TH, 27TH, 28TH, 29TH, 30TH STREET.
BUT EVERYBODY THAT LIVES ON THESE STREETS HAS TO COME DOWN HIGHER.
AND THE HEAVEN FORBID THE CHILD SHOULD TRY TO WALK TO SCHOOL BECAUSE IT'S SUPPOSED BE 20 MILES AN HOUR THERE.
NOBODY IS DOING 20 MILES AN HOUR.
AND WHEN THE CARS ARE PARKED ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, LINED UP FOR BLOCKS IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL AND THERE'S PEOPLE COMING DOWN ON THE OTHER SIDE, WELL NOW THE PEOPLE COMING DOWN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION AND UP IN THEIR PROPER LANE.
WELL NOW SOMEBODY GETS A CLEAR SPOT, THEY WANNA SHOOT UP THROUGH THE MIDDLE.
WELL THEY'RE DOING IT AT 30 MILES AN HOUR, RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL, MAYBE 40 MILES AN HOUR, RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL.
WELL THEN OF THE CHILDREN AREN'T GETTING OUTTA CARS 'CAUSE THEY WAIT TILL THEY GET INTO THE LOOP.
BUT STILL, IF A CHILD, MOTHER COULDN'T TAKE 'EM TO SCHOOL AND YOU HAD TO WALK TO SCHOOL, THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS.
ALL THAT GOT THIS LITTLE NARROW ROAD.
I WON'T TAKE MORE OF Y'ALL'S TIME.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I HOPE EVERYBODY HAS A BLESSED FEED.
ALRIGHT, WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, UH, AND UH, APPLICANT REBUTTAL.
JONATHAN, PLEASE, ONCE AGAIN THANK YOU GUYS FOR TAKING, UH, THE TIME TO, TO HEAR ME OUT.
LISTEN, I UNDERSTAND HOW YOU GUYS FEEL BECAUSE WHERE I LIVED THERE WAS TWO SCHOOLS AND TWICE A DAY NEGOTIATE THE EXACT SAME THING.
THAT BEING SAID, WHEN I WAS LOOKING TO BUY THIS LOT, I NOTICED THAT SCHOOL THERE AND I WENT BY IN THE MORNING AND IN THE AFTERNOON AND THE TRAFFIC WAS JUST AS BAD.
I SPOKE TO THE CITY AT, AT THAT TIME AND ASKED, ARE THEY GOING TO IMPROVE THE STREETS? ADD ON SOME WAYS THAT PEOPLE WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME DOWN ON 25TH STREET.
AND AT THE TIME I WAS TOLD CITY PLANNING IS LOOKING INTO GETTING A REROUTE.
SO WHEN YOU COME ON 25TH STREET INSTEAD OF BLOCKING THE ROAD, THEY'RE GONNA EXTEND THIS ROAD GOING DOWN THERE.
SO I AM EMPATHETIC WITH HOW YOU GUYS FEEL, BUT THIS PROBLEM HAS EXISTED SINCE EVEN BEFORE I SHOWED UP.
AND MOST OF THE TENANTS I HAVE, THEY LEAVE FOR WORK 10 O'CLOCK, UH, IN THE MORNING AND THEY COME BACK AFTER.
SO, BUT THE TRAFFIC IS A PROBLEM.
BUT IT WAS A PROBLEM EVEN BEFORE I WAS MY FIRST OUT THERE.
THE SEWAGE ISSUE, I'VE NEVER HEARD OF THAT.
AND THE REASON WHY I KNOW THAT DOESN'T EXIST IS I'M ALSO HAD TO GO THROUGH THE SECTION EIGHT TRAINING TO HAVE ALL THIS STUFF HAPPENING.
AND IF I HAD THAT SEWAGE ISSUE, I WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN, UH, APPROVED.
THERE'S NOT A SEWAGE ISSUE IN THOSE APARTMENTS.
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THAT INFORMATION CAME FROM.UH, JUST GIVE YOU A QUICK EXAMPLE.
I WAS IN BARCELONA LAST WEEK, GOT A CALL FROM ONE OF MY TENANTS AT DEPARTMENT D SAID HIS WATER HEAT WASN'T, UH, WORKING.
AND I'M IN BARCELONA AND I CALLED MY MAINTENANCE GUY.
HE WENT OVER, TOOK CARE OF IT.
I I, I AM A GOOD LANDLORD, THE SEWAGE PROBLEM, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE EVER HEARD OF THAT.
AND IF THAT WAS AN EXISTING PROBLEM, GALLATIN COUNTY, CITY OF DICKINSON WOULD'VE BEEN ON ME.
AND TO BE A MEMBER OF SECTION EIGHT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN PLAN.
BUT WITH THE TRAFFIC, I GET IT.
AND I WOULD JUST SAY IT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE MORE IF THOSE BUILDINGS ARE BUILT BECAUSE THAT PROBLEM HAS BEEN EXISTING THERE.
SO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY
UM, ALL RIGHT, WILL, UM, REBUTTAL THAT NEEDS TO BE ANSWERED.
UH, CAN WE DO THAT TRAVIS? AFTER THE APPLICANT'S REBUTTAL? THERE IS NO MORE PUBLIC COMMENT.
SORRY, I I DID WANNA ADD SOMETHING JUST REAL QUICK, UM, THAT THAT BE RELEVANT.
DID IT, SHOULD I JOIN THE PUBLIC HEARING? THIS IS STILL FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THIS IS UH, THIS IS OUR JIS ZONING MAP.
AND SO WE DO HAVE A LAYER ON THERE THAT IS PROPOSED SIDEWALKS.
AND SO THESE ARE THE FOUR PARCELS IN QUESTION.
AND SO WE DO HAVE THIS, THIS AREA IDENTIFIED TO UH, TO INSTALL PRO UH, SIDEWALKS.
I DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE OR A FUNDING FOR THAT, BUT THAT IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED, THAT IT IS
THAT'S WHY IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOOD IDEA.
UM, ALRIGHT, I'LL ADJOURN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT SEVEN SEVEN O'CLOCK AND NOW WE'LL GO TO FOUR B CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION CONCERNING MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO AMEND THE OFFICIALS ZONING MAP FROM NEIGHBORHOODS CONSERVATION ZONING DISTRICT TO URBAN TRANSITION, UH, ZONING DISTRICT.
FOR FOUR PARCELS OF WITHIN APPROXIMATELY UH, PLUS OR MINUS 0.19 ACRES LOCATED AT 44 0 4 EAST 25TH STREET PARCEL ID 6 1 2 2 7 0 AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS SIERRA SUBDIVISION 2016 ABSTRACT 78 LOT 55 R ACRES.
UH, IS IT 0.193 AND 0.21 ACRES LOCATED AT 4 4 1 OH EAST 25TH STREET PARCEL ID 6 1 2 2 7 1 AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS PIER SUBDIVISION TWO 16 ABSTRACT 78 LOT SEVEN R ACRES 0.2109 AND APPROXIMATELY PLUS OR MINUS 0.19 ACRES LOCATED AT 4 4 1 6 EAST 25TH STREET.
PARCEL ID 6 1 2 2 7 2 AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS NEAR SUBDIVISION 2016 ABSTRACT 2078 LOT 10 R ACRES 0.193 AND APPROXIMATELY UH, 0.19 ACRES LOCATED AT 44 26 EAST 25TH STREET.
PARCEL ID 1 8 3 0 6 1 AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS ABSTRACT 78 R HALL, SIR NORTH, UH, ONE 20 FOOT, UH, FEET OF, WHAT'S IT CALLED?
UH, 1 95 DASH ZERO DASH ONE NICKEL STONE EDITION.
ALRIGHT, SO IT'S NOW OPEN FOR US.
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? BILL? DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND.
SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A VERY SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM THERE.
I REALLY QUESTION WHETHER MR.
WELL I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY BECAUSE AS VOLUNTEER PIECES ON CONTROLLER, WE GO BY THERE AT LEAST ONCE WEEK.
THE FACT, I BELIEVE I'VE SPOKEN TO MR. MC IN COMMENT ON HIS DOG AND HE THOUGHT
SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE ISSUES AROUND THE SCHOOL BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF THE ROUTE THAT WE TAKE LEAST OBVIOUSLY TO ME, SIDEWALK WOULD ALLEVIATE.
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THE PLANNING BUT CAN'T TELL US THE OTHER PROBLEM BECAUSE I SEE IT IS THE STREETS JUST TOO NARROW.IT'S OBVIOUS THE STREET, MOST OF THE STREETS AND VICTIMS TOO NARROW.
NOT JUST THAT, BUT ALMOST ALL, I CAN'T CAN'T EVEN BEGIN TO BELIEVE WHAT OR UNDERSTAND WHY THEY THEY ARE, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE AS A PLANNING, ZONING, COMMISSION PROBLEMS, MUTUAL FOLKS IN FLORIDA NIGHT, THE PROPERTY OWNER THERE, RIGHT.
VEHICLE PROPERTY, CITY OWNER COUNCIL'S GONNA APPROVE CLEAR RECOMMENDATION.
SO IT'S, IT'S OBVIOUS YOU GOT PROBLEMS OVER THERE LIKE SO MANY PLACES IN DICKON, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CLAIM COMMISSION.
AND I, I MEAN NOT I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE CONGESTION AROUND THAT SCHOOL BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I'M THERE AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK AND NOT TWICE.
UM, I MEAN THE SCHOOL
SO THAT WILL BRING UP, YEAH, THAT WOULD BRING UP THE TAX.
NOT ONLY THAT, IT BRINGS MORE PEOPLE INTO OUR CITY THAT SPENDS MORE TAX MONEY.
'CAUSE THEY USUALLY SHOP LOCAL.
SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHO THEY HAVE PEOPLE IN PARKING DOWN IN THE STREETS TO WOULD IT HELP TO WHAT PARKING SPOTS? I MEAN I DON'T KNOW IF IT 1.5 CARS OR A SIX SPOT FOR FOURPLEX.
AND I'M NOT CLOSE YOU OUT A BOX.
SO TO BE HONEST, THE TIMES THAT I'VE BEEN BY THIS DEVELOPMENT, IT'S DURING WORKING HOURS AND DURING WORKING HOURS THERE'S, THERE'S NORMALLY NOT HEARING BUT MY TICKETS, BUT AFTER HOURS TO PICK UP AND DROP OFF CHILDREN SCHOOL YEAH.
AND EVERYTHING UP IN THAT AREA.
SO WE EXPERIENCE THAT ON DOING OCCASIONS.
THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE GO THROUGH THERE ON PATROL, SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE CONDUCTION AND STUFF.
MAKE SURE PEOPLE AREN'T SPEAKING, OBVIOUSLY VOLUNTEERED BECAME
THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD PROBABLY NOT CONTRIBUTE TO THE PROBLEM, RIGHT? WOULD IT, WOULD IT HELP IN YOU SOMEBODY ADDRESS IT WITH THE SCHOOL INJECTION AS STUDENT
I WOULD THINK THAT, UM, ESSENTIALLY LET'S BE REAL, IT'S GONNA BE MAYBE 12 CARS, LIKE IS 1.5 PER PER APARTMENT.
IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA CONTRIBUTE DRASTICALLY BECAUSE THEN DEPARTMENTS AREN'T THE ISSUE AGAINST.
SO IT'S NOT, AND I THINK THE MORE ALWAYS COMES BACK TO REVENUE, THE MONEY.
BUT THAT REVENUE IS WHAT'S GONNA GET YOU ED, THAT'S GONNA GET YOU POTENTIAL RUN THE, THE DISHES TO BE COVERED AND HAVE A A WIDER STREET.
THE, THE TAXPAYER, THE TAX MONEY GETS BEEN SET.
SO IT'S LIKE, SO IT'S THE STEERING SCHOOL OR THE PEAK SCHOOL FROM WHAT, SEVEN TO FIVE TO NINE O'CLOCK.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT'S DRIVING AND MY THERE.
SO SOMETHING'S GONNA BE BUILT THERE.
SO IF IT, IF YOU, IF YOU END UP HAVING, YOU KNOW, THREE, FOUR HOUSES WITH NO ONE TO OVERSEE THEM IN THIS CASE YOU HAVE
JUST THINK OF THE BENEFIT RAISE THE COST HOUSES THERE, THEY BUILT OUT THERE, BOTH OF THEM HAVE QUITE A TWO CAR THAT, THAT THEY HAVE FOUR CARS IN APARTMENT.
REALLY REQUIRED 1.5 FOR ONE UNIT.
SAME FAMILY HOME IS, IT'S ONLY TECHNICALLY REQUIRED FOR ABOUT A NINE BY 20 PARKING AREAS.
NO MATTER HOW MANY CARS THEY ACTUALLY HAVE.
UM, IT'S ALSO PRIORITY LIVING THAT THE CURRENT ZONING WILL SUPPORT A DUPLEX.
HE BUILT DUPLEX RIGHT NOW ONCE THAT'S MEAN THREE PARKING SPACE WON
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GO BY PARKING THE STREET, IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE THAT IF THE ISSUE IS YOUNG DEALING, WELL THE PROBLEM IS SIDEWALKS IN CONGESTION CREATED BY THE SCHOOL.SO I'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITIZENS THAT THEY COME TO CITY COUNCIL AND PUT A LITTLE PRESSURE ON THEM SO THAT THOSE SIDEWALKS THAT THEY HAVE PLANNED GET IN BUILT SOON.
THAT PEOPLE PUT PRESSURE WHEN THEY, THEY TEND TO LISTEN.
THE CITY HAS A SERIOUS TRUCTURE PROBLEMS THAT ARE, YES.
SO YOU MENTIONED REROUTING FROM, OR SOMEBODY MENTIONED THREE REROUTING, SO THAT THAT 25TH DIDN'T, WAS ONE OF THE ONLY WAYS INTO THAT COMMUNITY, UH, IS THAT UNDER CONSIDERATION? UH, THAT I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT, THAT WAS PROBABLY BEFORE MY TIME WHEN THE CITY, WHEN MR. PIER EXPLAINED PART OF THAT QUESTION.
UH, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY ARGUMENT.
WELL AGAIN, CITIZENS WILL ADDRESS THE CITIZEN SAID THAT CITY COUNCIL, THAT MIGHT BE A REALLY GOOD THING TO, TO ASK FOR IS A REROUTING OUT OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD BEING THE BIGGEST DARK, YOU KNOW, THAT WHEN THE SCHOOL BUS COMES DOWN, THERE'S NO WAY YOU GET QUIET.
WE THEY TAKE UP THE WHOLE STREET.
WELL IF THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT TO GO TO THE OTHER
THAT, THAT NEEDS TO BE HELPED, YOU KNOW.
SO, UM, SO PROCEDURAL WISE, UH, I THINK WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO THAT.
CAN WE ASK THAT SOME PEOPLE WANNA SPEAK THAT DOES THAT PROCEDURE TO BE OKAY? OKAY.
WELL I, AND THIS NOT YEARS AGO WHEN THEY FIRST OPENED THAT SCHOOL, THEY MADE 25TH STREET ONE WAY CERTAIN TIMES A DAY AND DIDN'T HAVE ANY OF THESE PROBLEMS. OH.
EXCEPT THEY WERE STILL PARKED IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY'S HOUSE ALL THE WAY DOWN THE STREET.
I MEAN, I WOULD THINK IF THE SCHOOL IS BIG ENOUGH, THEY COULD ASK THEM TO LINE UP AROUND THE SCHOOL, WHETHER THEY'VE ASKED 'EM, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT IF THEY DON'T DO THAT, THEY'RE LINE UP AROUND THE SCHOOL AND IT WAS MORE THAN EIGHT CERTAIN TIMES DAY, THAT WOULD ALLEVIATE A WHOLE LOT OF TRAFFIC.
PLEASE BRING THAT UP AND, AND YOU KNOW, AT THE NEXT, UH, SESSION.
ALSO, I REALIZE HERE THAT NEEDS A TRADE OFF BETWEEN REVENUE FOR THE CITY AND ALSO CONGESTION PROBLEM.
THE CONGESTION HAS EXISTED AND WE INCREASED ENROLLMENT
SO GOING TO THE ISSUE OF THEY COULD DO SINGLE FAMILY OR DUPLEX DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SINGLE FAMILY AND A FOUR PLACE IS GOING FROM ONE TO FOUR, THAT'S ALMOST 300% MINIMUM.
AND THERE'S NO, AS FAR AS I KNOW IN THE DISAGREEMENT, HOW MANY CALLS ARE THAT? SO THERE IS A LIMITED NUMBER OF MARKETING.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY
BUT IF I HAVE REST AT MY HOUSE, I HAVE NO LIMITATION.
BUT IN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, IF IT JUST HAPPEN TO HAVE A PARTY OR, AND THEN THE WORKING HOURS DON'T NECESSARILY MEET OUT STANDARDS AND HELP PEOPLE WHEN TO GO TO WORK AND THEN NOT TO GO TO WORK.
SO THE PROBLEM WILL GET WORSE WITH ANY ADDITIONAL TALK.
LIKE MULTIFAMILY DEFINITELY WILL INCREASE THE NUMBER OF TALKS.
SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, AND THEN THERE'S A QUESTION OF PRECEDENCE.
ONCE YOU APPROVE THIS, CAN SOMEBODY ELSE NEXT DOOR WHO WANTS TO CHANGE THE CURRENT SITUATION INTO MULTIFAMILY, YOU THEN CHECK THEM WITH REQUEST SINCE WE HAVE ALREADY
SO WHERE, WHERE DOES IT STOP? WHEN DOES YOUR ABILITY, AND I REALIZE YOU NOT THE POLICE WILL KNOW THE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT, I MEAN ADVERSE CITY
BUT FROM YOUR VANTAGE POINT, YOUR AUTHORITY, WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE IN HELPING YOUR
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THINK GO AHEAD.MAYBE WE SHOULD TAKE ONE MORE COMMENT FROM MR. PETER AND YEAH, I AGREE.
UH, A COUPLE OF THINGS, UH, THAT YOU BROUGHT UP.
ANYBODY THAT CALLS US TO APPLY FOR ONE OF THOSE APARTMENT, WE SPECIFICALLY ASK THEM HOW MANY CARS YOU HAVE.
AND I SAID YOU HAVE ONE DESIGNATED, UH, PARKING SPOT.
IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE CAR, YOU HAVE TO PARK BEHIND THAT IN INDIVIDUAL.
NUMBER TWO, THEY'RE TOLD NOT TO PARK ON THE STREET.
SO I AM NOT AWARE THAT MY TENANTS ARE PARKING ON THE STREET BECAUSE THAT IS IN THE LEASE THAT THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO PARK THERE.
UH, NUMBER THREE, I THINK YOU GUYS STUDIED PERFECTLY RIGHT? AND YOU ARE THE ANSWER.
BUILDING A MULTI-PLEX, THAT'S NOT THE PROBLEM.
THE PROBLEM IS THE, I SHOULDN'T SAY IT BECAUSE I'M THE CITY OF OF DICKINSON, THEY DIDN'T PLAN THAT THAT WELL.
SO WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M SAYING IS I EVEN BEFORE I DECIDED TO BUILD THERE, SPOKE TO THEM BECAUSE I HAVE GONE OUT THERE AND THEY SAID THEY WERE GONNA DO THAT REROUTE.
YOU COME OFF OF 25TH, YOU PICK UP YOUR KIDS, YOU GO DOWN THAT LITTLE SIDE ROAD AND THEY KEEP ON GOING.
SO I, I FEEL YOU GUYS PAIN AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND IT, BUT I DIDN'T CAUSE THAT AND I'M JUST TRYING TO GET IMPROVE.
AND LASTLY, I'M GOING TO HAVE A LOT MORE ADDITIONAL PARKING NOW BECAUSE WE, WHERE THE BUILDINGS ARE NOW, I'M NOW ABLE TO GO BACK EVEN FURTHER BACK.
SO THERE'S GONNA BE MORE PARKING IN FRONT, BUT MY TENANTS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PARK ON THE STREET.
AND IF A TENANT CALLED ME AND SAID MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR IS HAVING TWO OR THREE FOLKS THERE, THEY'RE BLOCKING MY SPACE OR DOWN IN THE STREET, I DON'T CARE WHAT PART OF THE WORLD I'M IN, I CALL THEM.
SO AGAIN, I FEEL YOUR PAIN, I UNDERSTAND YOUR PAIN.
SO IF YOU GUYS WANT ME TO JOIN YOU AT THE CITY COUNCIL AND ASK THEM TO PUT SIDEWALKS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO.
UM, ANY MORE COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? OKAY, DO I HEAR A MOTION? I'M SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? A OPPOSED? OKAY.
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AGENDA ITEM.SO I'LL ENTERTAIN THE NO RIGHT, WE HAVE FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT SPECIFICALLY ON THE NEXT AGENDA.
WE CAN NOW OR UM, LEMME THINK Y'ALL HAVE, BESIDES THE FACT THAT WE'RE GONNA MEET AS A YEAH, WE'RE DOING, WE'RE DOING DISCUSSION ON THE 20TH FOR UVC.
I THOUGHT THOSE PARENTS THAT WERE DROPPING OFF WERE LINING UP ON, I THINK THAT'S KANSAS, I'M MISTAKEN SEE NO.
SO HOOK 'EM UP 21ST, COME DOWN KANSAS AND LINE UP THERE, COME THROUGH THE CIRCLE DRIVE AND THEN GO BACK OUT 25TH.
IF THEY, IF WE COULD GET THE CITY TO PUT A SIGN UP THAT SOMEONE SUGGESTED WHEN THEY COME OUT OF THAT CIRCLE DRIVE THAT THEY HAVE TO TURN RIGHT, NOT BACK TO THE LEFT TO BRING THEM BACK IN FRONT OF, UM, YOUR HOMES AND, AND MULTIPLEX THAT WOULD ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE CONGESTION, I BELIEVE.
NOW YOU CAN'T, CAN'T REALLY STOP YOU UNLESS YOU MAKE THAT A ONE WAY STREET AT CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY, WHICH, UM, COULD DO, WOULD WORK.
BUT IF, IF THEY LINED UP LIKE I BELIEVE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO ON KANSAS, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT SHE'S SUPPOSED TO DO BECAUSE WE COME THROUGH THERE A LOT OF TIMES THEY ARE LINED UP ON CANVAS.
I'M SURE THEY'RE COMING IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS TRYING TO GET THROUGH THAT CIRCLE DRIVE BECAUSE I'VE SEEN IT'S A MESS WHEN THE SCHOOL BUSES AND STUFF ARE COMING THROUGH.
I'VE SEEN THAT SET THE CONGESTION OUT THERE, BUT ALSO MAYBE GO TALK TO THE SCHOOL BOARD.
THAT'S WHERE HA HA HAS IT BEEN ONE WAY BEFORE SOMEBODY, SOMEBODY MENTIONED THAT IT HAD BEEN, IS THERE BEEN ONE WAY? IT WAS WHEN THEY, RIGHT WHEN IT WAS COUNTY, UM, BACK WHEN THERE COUNTY IT WAS ONE WAY.
AND THAT, AND YOU SAID THAT WORKED WELL, RIGHT? I'VE BEEN THROUGH THERE AFTER DROP OFF AND BEEN BEFORE CCA.
THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CONGESTION.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I'VE TAUGHT YEAH, WALKING RIGHT THERE ON THE, IN THE STREET ABOVE.
BUT YET WHEN IT, WHEN THEY'RE PICKING, DROP IT
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OFF AND PICK IT UP, IT'S, IT'S A MESS.SO MAYBE WE CAN ASK MORE ONE WAY AGAIN, IF IT ALREADY WAS ACCEPTABLE BEFORE THERE WAS ONE ITEM.
THANKS VERY MUCH EVERYONE FOR, UM, COMING TODAY.
BUT THAT'S WHY WE'RE SUGGESTING OR GOING TO THE NEXT OKAY.
CAN WE, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THERE.