Oct 27, 2025 City Council

ALL RIGHT, SO

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[1. CALL TO ORDER AND CERTIFICATION OF A QUORUM]

IT IS SEVEN 10, UM, AND WE WILL GO AHEAD AND GET A CERTIFICATION OF A QUORUM.

MAYOR, TRAVIS MELO HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNNY SIMPSON.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER SEAN HOLT.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER MARK TOWNSEND.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER SCOTT SCHRADER.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER BILL SCHICK HERE.

AND COUNCIL MEMBER KEVIN EDMONDS HERE.

AND WE HAVE A QUORUM AND, UM, BECAUSE OF THE TIMING, COUNCIL MEMBER SCHICK, DID WE HAVE, UH, SOMEONE SIGNED UP FOR TODAY? ALRIGHT, SO IF, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER SIMPSON, IF YOU COULD LEAVE US IN AN INVOCATION AND THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND KNOCK OUT THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AFTER THAT.

SO EVERYONE, PLEASE RISE.

LET US PRAY.

OH LORD, OUR GOD, HOW EXCELLENT IS YOUR NAME FROM THE RISING OF THE SUN TO THE GOING DOWN TO THE SAME.

YOUR NAME IS GREAT AND GREATLY TO BE PRAISED.

WE GIVE YOU THANKS FOR EVERY GOOD AND PERFECT GIFT THAT COMES FROM ABOVE.

WE ASK YOUR BLESSING UPON THIS MEETING.

UH, THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING IN PERSON, THOSE WHO ARE ONLINE, THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY, UH, THIS COUNTY, THIS STATE, AND THIS GREAT NATION.

CONTINUE TO KEEP US UNDER YOUR PROTECTING CARE.

AND CHRIST'S NAME WE PRAY.

AMEN.

AMEN.

I LEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO UNITED STATES OF AMERICA REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE, ONE NATION UNDER ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.

HONOR THE FLAG TO THE ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AN INDIVIDUAL.

[3. ANNOUNCEMENTS AND PRESENTATIONS]

SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START WITH, UH, CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER EDMONDS, AND WE'LL GO FROM MY LEFT TO RIGHT.

UH, THANK YOU GUYS FOR, UH, BEING HERE TONIGHT.

AND, UH, THOSE WHO ARE ATTENDING ONLINE AT OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING, I MEANT TO, UM, OFFER CONDOLENCES TO THE MACKEY FAMILY, UH, FROM THE LOSS OF MR. MACKEY.

UH, SO, UH, PLEASE KEEP THEIR, YOUR, UH, THAT FAMILY IN YOUR PRAYERS.

AND, UM, GO GATORS.

UH, THEY'VE DONE WELL.

UH, THAT'S IT, MAYOR.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH FOR SHOWING UP TONIGHT.

I KNOW IT'S GONNA BE A LONG MEETING.

UH, UH, BRIEFLY, I ATTENDED THE BAYOU ANIMAL, UH, BLACK TIE GALA.

IT WAS A HUGE SUCCESS.

WE DID VERY WELL ON THERE.

UH, ATTENDED THE ROTARY, UH, CLEANUP ON FIVE 17.

IF Y'ALL WILL NOTICE THAT FIVE 17 FROM SPRUCE ALL THE WAY TO MARAIS, ALL THE TRASH HAS BEEN PICKED UP.

UH, CONGRATULATIONS ON THE DICKINSON FOOTBALL EIGHT AND OH TEAM.

UH, FIRST IN DISTRICT 32ND IN THE STATE.

I'M VERY PROUD.

OUR BAND, OUR CHEERLEADERS, OUR DRILL TEAM, AND ALL THE PARENTS, UH, DESERVE THIS WIN.

UH, WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY HALLOWEEN, UH, BE CAREFUL OF THE KIDDOS RUNNING AROUND.

THANK YOU.

WELCOME EVERYONE.

THOSE HERE ONLINE.

SORRY WE'RE A LITTLE BIT LATE, BUT WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN GET IT GOING.

THANKS.

MM-HMM .

HELLO EVERYBODY THAT'S HERE.

UH, AGAIN, FESTIVAL LIGHTS MENTIONED THEM.

THEY ARE DOWN THERE AT THE PARK WORKING ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS, SO IF YOU GOT SOME FREE TIME, FEEL LIKE VOLUNTEERING, THEY NEED HELP SETTING UP DECORATIONS, WORKING ON THE LIGHTS.

UH, LAST THURSDAY NIGHT, THEY HELD A, UH, MEETING AT, UH, LAKE CITY CIVIC CENTER ON THE 99 ON THE SOUTH END.

THAT RUNS FROM SIX, UH, 45 ALL THE WAY TO 35 AND DOWN AROUND TO ABOUT 1462 ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

THEY'RE GETTING READY TO START THAT OFF IN THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS.

ALSO, ON THAT SLIDE, THEY HAD A PRESENTATION, BUT THEY SAID THE DATE IS WRONG, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CORRECT DATE, BUT THE DATE THEY SHOWED WAS FOR DECEMBER OF 27, I BELIEVE IT WAS TO START THE WIDENING PROJECT OF FIVE 17 FROM I 45 TO 35.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TRUE DATE IS.

THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO UPDATE THE SLIDE.

SO IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SEE THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS GIVEN LAST THURSDAY NIGHT, I BELIEVE LEAGUE CITY HAS IT ON THEIR WEBSITE.

SO YOU CAN WATCH THE PRESENTATION ON THE 99 CORRIDOR PROJECT.

IT'S, UH, AND, UH, THERE'LL BE A COUPLE FLYOVERS ON 45 FROM OUR SIDE OF, UH, 6 46 GOING TO, TO 6 46.

AND ALSO FROM 6 46 GOING TO I 45 NORTH.

SO IT'D BE SOME INTERESTING VIEWING TO SIT THERE AND WATCH THAT PROJECT, WHAT THEY'RE FIXING TO DO OVER THERE.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY HERE AND ONLINE.

UH, I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE SOME OF MY COUNCILMAN'S COMMENTS ON DICKINSON.

GATORS, UH, I'LL BE ON THE SILENCES THIS FRIDAY, HALLOWEEN.

IF NO ONE ELSE HAS ANY PLANS OR LITTLE KIDS COME JOIN US.

IT'LL BE A GREAT GAME, GREAT SPECIAL GROUP OF KIDS THIS YEAR.

UM, THANK YOU.

YEAH, I'LL REITERATE IT.

SO, GOOD EVENING

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GLAD TO SEE YOU ALL HERE.

THANK YOU, MAN.

HOW'S IT GOING? EVERYONE? UH, EVERYONE ONLINE AS WELL AS HERE TONIGHT.

UM, JUST WANTED TO, ONCE AGAIN, I WAS ALSO AT THE, UH, BLACK TIE TEXAS BAYOU ANIMAL SERVICES, UM, I GUESS CELEBRATION.

UM, ENDED UP GOING HOME WITH A DOG THAT NIGHT.

SO, UH, MY WIFE CONVINCED ME TO BRING DOG NAMED BENNETT.

HE IS PART OF THE FAMILY ALREADY.

SO, UH, GIVE YOU A LITTLE UPDATE ON THAT ONE.

UM, ALSO TO SECOND WITH THE DICKINSON SPORTS.

UH, THERE'S ALSO, UM, THE DICKINSON BAND TONIGHT IS ACTUALLY AT THEIR AREA COMPETITION.

UM, I JUST GOT UPDATE.

MY SON IS ON IN THE BAND.

UM, THEY PLAY TONIGHT AT NINE 15 TONIGHT TO SEE IF THEY CAN, UH, MAKE IT TO THE STATE COMPETITION NEXT WEEK.

SO, UH, EVERYONE, UH, KEEP 'EM IN YOUR THOUGHTS.

UM, I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THEY WILL KILL IT IN THEIR COMPETITION.

SO, UM, OTHER THAN THAT, UH, CITY MANAGER, WHAT YOU GOT FOR US? YES, SIR.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

COUNCIL, CITIZENS OF OUR GREAT COMMUNITY.

UH, FIRST I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO HAS, UH, REACHED OUT TO ME ABOUT MY FATHER-IN-LAW.

YOUR SUPPORT MEANS A LOT.

THESE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS HAVE BEEN CHALLENGING FOR MY FAMILY IN MANY WAYS.

YOU KNOW, MY FATHER-IN-LAW'S IN VERY POOR HEALTH, AND HE WILL DIE ANY DAY NOW.

SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTS AND YOUR PRAYERS.

UH, WE, UH, WE, WE FEEL THE LOVE FROM OUR COMMUNITY.

SO, THANK YOU.

UH, THIS WEEK IS, UH, A TML CONFERENCE.

MYSELF, MR. MAGNO AND A FEW OF OUR COUNCILMEN WILL BE ATTENDING IN FORT WORTH.

UH, CURRENTLY I DO PLAN ON ATTENDING, BUT IF HE PASSES AWAY, I WILL LEAVE THE CONFERENCE AND RETURN HOME.

SO, SPEAKING OF CONFERENCES, JUST SO MANY OF Y'ALL KNOW, AS WE SPOKE OF DURING BUDGET WORKSHOPS, WE HAVE CUT OUT UNNECESSARY TRAVEL TRAINING, REDUCING WASTE, THE ICMA CONFERENCE THAT CITY MANAGER'S BEEN GOING TO FOREVER HERE.

WE DID NOT ATTEND.

IT WAS THIS WEEK IN FLORIDA.

WE ARE NOT THERE, OBVIOUSLY.

SO, UH, I DO HAVE AN UPDATE ON ANOTHER SOMBER NOTE ABOUT JOHN VALLE.

MANY OF YOU KNOW JOHN, A RETIRED FIREFIGHTER FROM GALVESTON, DCP AAA MEMBER, DMD BOARD MEMBER.

HE CALLED ME LAST WEEK TO SHARE ME THAT, UH, HE TO SHARE.

AND THIS IS PUBLIC, THAT HE'S, UH, BATTLING A SEVERE FORM OF CANCER AND IT, AND IT IS SEVERE.

I ASK THAT YOU KEEP JOHN, HIS FAMILY AND YOUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS.

JOHN, IF YOU'RE LISTENING, JUST KNOW THAT, PRAYING FOR YOU AND WE'RE HERE TO HELP YOU.

GOD BLESS YOU, MAN.

UH, HUGHES ROAD DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT.

WE'RE CURRENTLY 46% COMPLETE MAKING PROGRESS.

THE LANE CLOSURES FIVE 17 AT NICHOLS, THAT CREATED ALL THE BACKUP.

THE TRAFFIC HERE, IT'S NOW COMPLETE AND IT'S OPEN.

UH, WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON GETTING MCADAMS, THE INGRESS AND EGRESS DRIVEWAYS COMPLETED DURING THE HOLIDAYS.

I TOLD THE ISD THAT WE WILL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO GET THIS COMPLETED AS WE DID HUGHES ROAD ELEMENTARY DURING THE SUMMER.

UH, THAT'S ALL THE UPDATES I HAVE.

MR. MAGNO WILL DO THE DEPARTMENTAL UPDATE.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

WE ON.

OKAY.

UM, THANK YOU, SIR.

SO, UH, JUST TO CLARIFY, OUR HUGHES ROAD PROJECT, OUR EASTBOUND TRAVEL LANES ARE OPEN, ARE GONNA REMAIN OPEN, BUT THE WESTBOUND, WE ARE STILL GONNA HAVE TO SHUT THAT OUTSIDE LANE, THAT RIGHT LANE WHEN WE DO SOME WORK HERE.

UH, NEXT COUPLE DAYS WHEN WE DO THAT, WE'LL COMMUNICATE THAT TO EVERYBODY.

UM, WITH RESPECT TO THE DEPOT, I'D LIKE TO ADD DEPOT.

SO, UM, I, I'M SITTING ON THE AIR CONDITIONER ESTIMATE, IT'S 11,500.

SO, UH, GIVEN THE DIRECTION TO, UH, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, WE CAN, UM, I UNDERSTAND MR. SCHICK, YOURSELF AND SOME OTHERS HAVE LOOKED AT THE DRAINAGE.

SOMETIME NOT NEXT WEEK, BUT THE WEEK AFTER, WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN ENGINEER COME OUT, LOOK AT IT, MEET WITH US, AND FIND OUT WHAT IS IT THAT YOU WANT TO PAY ME TO TELL YOU.

AND SO ESSENTIALLY WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR THIS VISIT.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE THEM COME OUT AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND, HEY, WE HAVE A DRAINAGE PROBLEM.

HOW SEVERE IS IT? DOES THIS NEED US TO PAY YOU TO TELL US HOW BAD THIS IS AND WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED? OR IS THIS MINIMAL? AND THEN WE GET THAT COST, WE'LL COMPARE IT TO WHAT WE THINK WE CAN DO, AND WE'LL START WORKING ON SOME DRAINAGE, UM, WITH THAT.

UM, LET'S SEE.

UH, I GUESS WE'RE GOING TO GET A DEHUMIDIFIER IN THERE.

IS THAT CORRECT, MR. SH TO START ONE RUNNING RIGHT.

RUNNING RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

WONDERFUL.

OKAY.

SO I GUESS THERE'S A, WE HAVE A SECOND ONE THAT'S MISSING IN ACTION THAT I WAS EVEN UNAWARE THAT THE CITY OWNED.

SO IF WE CAN TRACK IT DOWN.

GREAT.

COUNCILMAN RINER HAS VOLUNTEERED TO LOOK, HE PERSONALLY OWNS GO IN THERE.

E EVEN, EVEN BETTER.

WONDERFUL.

SO GIVE, IF MR. CAREY TELLS ME TO PULL THE TRIGGER SOMETIME SOON, WE WILL, UH, WE'LL GET THE AIR CONDITIONER FIXED.

IF WE NEED TO HOLD ONTO THAT MONEY, UM, FOR A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, THEN, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST STANDING BY FOR TASK DIRECTION.

DO YOU HAVE ANY, ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY.

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SO

[4. PUBLIC COMMENTS]

NUMBER FOUR.

PUBLIC COMMENTS.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE INVITED TO GIVE COMMENTS AT THIS TIME, LASTING NOT LONGER THAN THREE MINUTES.

COMMENTS? COMMENTS MAY BE GENERAL IN NATURE OR MAY ADDRESS A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM AND SHOULD BE DIRECTED AT THE ENTIRE COUNCIL.

NOT INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL OR STAFF.

ANY SPEAKER MAKING PERSONAL ATTACKS OR USING VULGAR OR PROFANE LANGUAGE SHALL FORFEIT HIS OR HER REMAINING TIME AND SHALL BE SEATED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.

THE CITY COUNCIL MAY NOT DELIBERATE.

AND THE FIRST ONE UP, I GOT MR. UH, ED SCHROEDER.

YES, SIR.

ED, HELLO.

I'M ED SCHROEDER.

I LIVE AT 1991 ST.

EDMONDS CROSSING IN DICKINSON.

UH, LAST TUESDAY NIGHT I ATTENDED THE, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING HELD IN HERE.

THE TOPIC WAS THE SANCTUARY SECTION TWO PRELIMINARY PLAT.

AND IN THAT MEETING, THE FIRST THING THAT HAPPENED IS THE, UH, HEAD OF THE COMMITTEE STATED THAT WIN OR LOSE, GOOD OR BAD, WHATEVER HAPPENED, CITY COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE THE ACTIONS TAKEN THAT NIGHT.

SO WE WENT TO PUBLIC TESTIMONY AND THERE WAS, THE ROOM WAS, THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE, AND IT WENT ON FOR A LONG TIME, OVER AN HOUR.

AND THE MAIN TOPIC OF DISCUSSION WITH THE CONCERNS ABOUT THIS NEW SUBDIVISION DRAINAGE RETENTION POND HAS TO RUN INTO OUR CURRENT RETENTION POND FOR IT TO BE APPROVED.

AND LIKE MY HOUSE AND OTHER HOUSES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, ST.

EDMONDS GREEN FLOODED DURING, UH, A RECENT EVENT.

AND WE DON'T NEED 42 MORE HOUSES IN OUR SUB TO CONNECT TO OUR DRAINAGE POND TO ADD TO THE, TO THE PROBLEMS. BUT WHAT HAS ME HERE TONIGHT IS THAT AFTER A LENGTHY PUBLIC TESTIMONY, AND THEN THE COMMITTEE STARTED TALKING AMONGST THEMSELVES AND THERE WERE AT LEAST THREE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION THAT HAD SOME MAJOR QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.

A GENTLEMAN FROM THE CITY OF DICKINSON GOT UP AND INFORMED THE PLANNING CHAIRMAN THAT THIS AGENDA ITEM WAS AT THE STATUTORY LIMIT OF TIME TO DISCUSS.

THERE COULD BE NO MORE MOVING IT DOWN THE ROAD OR LATER OR ANY OF THAT.

PLUS IT HAD TO BE APPROVED BECAUSE IN HIS OPINION, ALL THE LEGAL CHECKS WERE DONE.

AND THE COMMITTEE PEOPLE, SOME OF 'EM EXPRESSED QUITE A BIT OF SHOCK TO HEAR THAT.

BUT ONCE THEY HEARD THAT ALL DISCUSSION ENDED, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY, AYE, IT VOTED YES.

SO WHAT HAPPENED IS WE, THE CITY OF DICKINSON, PAID TO HAVE SIGNS PUT UP ON BEST ROAD.

THEY PAID TO HAVE MAILINGS SENT OUT.

THEY HAD THIS LONG MEETING ONLY TO BE TOLD THAT WHAT THE COMMISSION DID.

THEY, THEY HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO VOTE YES FOR THIS BECAUSE THE TIME LIMIT WAS UP THAT DAY.

IN FACT, IT'S GONNA RUN OUT IN FOUR HOURS, YOU KNOW, AT MIDNIGHT.

SO THEY HAD TO, DESPITE WHAT THE PUBLIC SAID, IRRELEVANT, THERE WAS NO TIME TO CONSIDER ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.

AND THERE WAS NO TIME FOR THE COMMISSION MEMBERS TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN VOTE YES.

AND THEN WE ALL WENT OUR WAY.

THEN TODAY I FOUND OUT THAT THE INFORMATION WAS TOLD THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD LATER VOTE YAY OR NAY ON.

THIS IS INCORRECT THAT THE PLANNING COMMU PEOPLE HAVE THE SOLE VOTE ON IT AND IT DOESN'T COME BEFORE Y'ALL.

SO MY ONLY MY CONCERN HERE IS THAT THIS WHOLE PROCESS WAS JUST A SHAM.

JUST NEED YOUR, UH, CLOSING COMMENTS AND THEN OKAY.

THREE MINUTES.

BUT I'M GONNA LET YOU CLOSE OUT.

I MEAN, I JUST, I JUST FEEL LIKE THE WHOLE THING WAS FOR SOME BUREAUCRAT TO CHECK OFF THE BOXES.

DID WE PUT UP SIGNS? YES.

DO WE DO MAILINGS? YES.

DO WE HAVE A PUBLIC TESTIMONY? YES.

BUT IT WAS ALL IRRELEVANT.

THE MEETING COULD HAVE JUST HAD THE MINUTES POSTED.

SHOW UP AND WATCH 'EM VOTE.

YES.

'CAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY OPTION THAT THEY HAVE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO, UM, I'M GONNA, THE ONLY REASON I'M GONNA COMMENT ON IT IS 'CAUSE I ACTUALLY MET WITH A LOT OF YOUR NEIGHBORS.

UM, I THINK THURSDAY NIGHT AT HUGH AND JEFF'S, UH, THEY REACHED OUT TO ME, WANTED TO SIT DOWN WITH ME AND KIND OF WENT OVER THE WHOLE PROCESS.

UM, THAT MEETING, THEY CANNOT TURN DIRT UNTIL THEY DO ALL OF THOSE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES, UNTIL THEY DO ALL OF THE FLOODING STUDIES.

THEY CANNOT TURN A SINGLE BIT OF DIRT UNTIL THEY DO THOSE THINGS.

SO THAT MEETING WAS TO SAY, YOU ARE LEGALLY ALLOWED TO PUT HOUSES HERE.

THAT WAS IT.

THEY CANNOT ACTUALLY PUT REAL HOUSES, REAL STREETS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT UNTIL THAT IS APPROVED IN THE PLAT.

RIGHT.

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YOU CAN CONSTRUCT WHATEVER YOU WANT.

THEY, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF PROCESSES.

AND I VERIFIED THAT WITH MR. BEFORE I TOLD ANY OF THE CITIZENS.

HE'S THE ONE THAT IN INSTRUCTED ME ON THIS.

UM, SO I CAN PROMISE YOU THAT THERE WILL BE MORE MEETINGS IN THE FUTURE FOR THAT PROJECT.

WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU LETTING ME KNOW THAT.

I DON'T WANT YOU TO GO HOME THINKING THAT THAT CONVERSATION DIDN'T HAPPEN.

BUT BECAUSE THERE IS A CHECKLIST AND IF THOSE DEVELOPERS HIT THOSE CHECKLISTS, YES SIR.

TECHNICALLY THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD.

BUT THAT, THAT, THAT'S AT THE VERY BEGINNING STAGES OF THAT PROGRESS.

WELL, MY ONLY, MY ONLY GRIPE IS THAT IT LOOKED LIKE THE PROCESS WAS SUCH THAT IT WAS ALL JUST FOR SHOW.

'CAUSE THE COMMENTS MEANT NOTHING.

AND THE OPINION OF THE VOTING MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THAT WAS NOT, I, I WATCHED IT.

'CAUSE I WOULDN'T GET, I DIDN'T GET TO BE HERE THAT NIGHT.

SO I COMPLETELY AGREE IT DIDN'T LOOK GREAT.

RIGHT.

AND MAY, UM, BUT I WANT, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I SHARED THAT INFORMATION.

'CAUSE I, I ASKED MR. CAREY MYSELF, I WAS LIKE, IS THIS REALLY THE WAY IT GOES? AND HE, HE CORRECTED ME.

IF YOU WATCHED IT, YOU'RE TOUGHER THAN ME BECAUSE IT WAS JUST, YOU'RE GOOD TO, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS THOUGH.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, VERIFY.

APPRECIATE YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IF I CAN CLARIFY A LITTLE BIT REGARDING YEP.

THAT PLATTING APPROVAL AND MAYBE, UH, HOPEFULLY CLEAR UP SOME CONFUSION.

ABSOLUTELY.

AS PART OF THE GENTLEMAN, SO PLATTING APPROVAL, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL HAS DELEGATED TO THE P AND Z MM-HMM .

AND UNDER STATE LAW, A PLAT IS THE VERY FIRST THING THAT YOU HAVE TO DO.

YOU HAVE TO FILE THAT PLAT.

IT SHOWS THE NEW LOT LINES WHEN YOU'RE CARVING UP A PIECE OF LAND IN ORDER TO GET THAT PLAT APPROVED.

NOW, PLAT APPROVAL, THE TERM THAT'S USED FOR IT IS MINISTERIAL.

OKAY? MINISTERIAL MEANING THERE IS NO DISCRETION WHATSOEVER IN THE DECISION TO APPROVE THAT PLA IF A PLAT IS FILED AND THAT PLAT COMPLIES WITH ALL OF THE STATE LAW REQUIREMENTS IN THE CHAPTER TWO 12 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, IT COMPLIES WITH ALL OF OUR PLAT REQUIREMENTS IN OUR UDC.

THERE IS NO POWER TO SAY NO.

AND THE TIMELINE THAT THE GENTLEMAN SPEAKS TO, I GUESS, THAT HE WAS, UH, TOLD ABOUT IS THE WHAT IN THE PLANNING WORLD.

IT'S CALLED THE SHOT CLOCK.

WHEN A PLAT IS FILED, THE P AND Z HAS 30 DAYS DURING WHICH TO DENY IT.

OTHERWISE, IT IS DEEMED APPROVED AUTOMATICALLY UNDER STATE LAW BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN, IT IS MINISTERIAL.

SO IF THE P AND Z OR STAFF IDENTIFIED DEFICIENCIES WITH THE PLAQUE, THEN WE WOULD RAISE THAT, THAT THE, THE P AND C WOULD VOTE DOWN BASED ON THOSE DEFICIENCIES, BUT NOT BASED ON WE DON'T LIKE THIS DEVELOPMENT.

YEP.

WE DON'T THINK IT'S WRONG FOR THE PLACE.

NONE OF THOSE CONSIDERATIONS PLAY INTO IT OR CAN PLAY INTO IT IN THIS MINISTERIAL.

THE ONLY REASON WHY I BROUGHT IT UP, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE EV ALL THE CITIZENS HERE KNOW THAT THIS COUNCIL, MR. CAREY AND HIS STAFF ARE GOING TO PROTECT THESE CITIZENS FROM ANY DEVELOPER THAT WANTS TO DO ANYTHING IN THIS CITY.

SO THIS COUNCIL UP HERE, I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THE CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH THEM AND MR. CAREY AND HIS STAFF, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THEY FOLLOW OUR RULES.

UM, NOW WITH THAT BEING SAID, MR. DAVID FLOYD, COME ON UP.

DAVID FLOYD 7 0 1 OLD OAK OLD OAK DRIVE IN DICKINSON.

I WAS GOING TO SEND THIS THING WORKING.

YES SIR.

I WAS GONNA SEND A LETTER, BUT SINCE I WAS UP HERE ANYWAY, I'LL GO AHEAD AND TELL YOU TO YOUR FACE.

UH, WE HAD OUR NATIONAL NIGHT OUT IN THE SUBDIVISION THE OTHER DAY, OR WHENEVER IT WAS, AND, UH, HAD A BIG TURNOUT FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

POLICE DEPARTMENT DIDN'T SEE A SINGLE ELECTED OFFICIAL THERE.

THANKS FOR THAT.

I GUESS WE DIDN'T HAVE TO BUY YOU FOOD.

AT ANY RATE, I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT'S HAPPENED IN OUR SUBDIVISION.

I'M, I'M, UH, THE PRESIDENT OF THE SHERWOOD FOREST WEST, HOA AND HAVE BEEN FOR YEARS, AND I'D LIKE TO GIVE THAT JOB TO SOMEBODY ELSE.

BUT, UM, WE'VE HAD THREE INCIDENTS IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS OF PEOPLE, UH, COMING TO PEOPLE'S HOMES AT NIGHT OR EARLY IN THE MORNING.

WE HAD ONE WAS A YOUNG KID SHOWED UP ON SOMEBODY'S DOORSTEP LATE AT NIGHT, GOT CAUGHT BY HIS CAMERA AND HE JUST RAN THE KID AWAY AND NO BIG DEAL THERE.

THE SECOND ONE WAS A POOR LADY, AN OLDER LADY THAT WAS DISTRAUGHT.

SHE CAME UP TO A, A RESIDENCE DINING ROOM WINDOW.

IT WAS AFTER DARK KNOCKED ON THEIR WINDOW.

SHE WAS OBVIOUSLY CONFUSED, LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY ELSE, LOOKING FOR HER FRIEND OR WHATEVER.

THE, THE THIRD ONE, A YOUNG LADY ABOUT, APPEARED TO BE ABOUT 23 OR 24, SHOWED UP ON, UH, A RESIDENCE DOORSTEP BEFORE DAYLIGHT.

UH, THIS GUY GETS UP ABOUT FOUR O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.

HE HAD JUST GOTTEN UP AND SHE SHOWED UP ON HIS DOORSTEP, RANG HIS DOORBELL, AND NEEDED HELP, WANTED SOMETHING.

HE TALKED HER DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

ALL THESE THINGS WORKED OUT FINE.

BUT MY BOARD WANTED ME TO LET YOU KNOW AND, UH, SEND OUR THANKS TO THE POLICE

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THEY CAME OUT IN THOSE TWO INSTANCES AND THE NEIGHBORS WERE ALL, OF COURSE, WERE NEIGHBORS, WERE ALL AROUND AND EVERYTHING.

THEY SAID, THESE POLICEMEN, THESE POLICE OFFICERS SHOWED REALLY COMPASSION RESTRAINT, DID WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO IN A VERY NICE MANNER.

AND THEY WANTED TO LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT SINCE THE CHIEF IS ALREADY HERE, I DON'T HAVE TO WRITE A LETTER.

SO I'LL JUST, UH, LET THAT LET YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT IS, UH, DID ANYONE, UH, SHOW UP AND NOT GET TO SIGN UP FOR THE, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS, I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME UP.

IF NOT, WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT ONE, WHICH IS CONSENT AGENDA.

[5. CONSENT AGENDA]

THERE WILL NOT BE A SEPARATE DISCUSSION, UH, ON THESE ITEMS UNLESS A COUNCIL MEMBER REQUESTS.

IN WHICH EVENT, THE ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND DISCUSSED AFTER THE CONSENT AGENDA.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND.

GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASS.

ALRIGHT, NUMBER SIX, OLD

[6.A ORDINANCE NO. XXX- 2025 - Consideration and possible action to approve an ordinance of the City of Dickinson, Texas, to amend Chapter 7, Fire Prevention and Protection, of the City of Dickinson Code of Ordinances, by amending Section 7-60, entitled “Sale, use and possession of fireworks”; providing a severability clause, a repealer clause, and an effective date. (Edmonds/Shrader)]

A CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DICKINSON, TEXAS TO AMEND CHAPTER SEVEN, FIRE PREVENTION AND PROTECTION OF THE CITY OF DICKINSON.

CODE OF ORDINANCE BY AMENDING SECTION SEVEN DASH SIX ZERO ENTITLED, SALE USE AND POSSESSION OF FIREWORKS PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, A REPEAL CLAUSE, AND EFFECTIVE DATE.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOVE TO APPROVE.

GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? DO WE HAVE DISCUSSION? YEAH, WE JUST NEED A SECOND FOR AT LEAST FOR DISCUSSION.

WE GOT A SECOND.

SECOND.

ALRIGHT, GOT A SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

WHAT DO WE GOT? UM, MAYOR, I THINK, UH, THE LAST TIME WE SPOKE ABOUT THE FIREWORKS, UM, ONE OF OUR BIGGEST HURDLES WAS SALE.

YES.

PLACEMENT AND ZONING.

SO IT IS MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE MOVE ALL PROVISIONS OF SALE OUT OF THE ORDINANCE AT THIS TIME.

AND I THINK THE SCHEDULE WE HAD, UH, HASHED OUT WAS, UH, SUFFICIENT, UH, FOR OPERAT, UH, FOR HOLDING ONTO IT.

ANOTHER THING I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IS THAT WE STILL CONTINUED NOT TO ADVERSELY AFFECT SOMEBODY WHO STILL POSSESSED A FIREWORK AFTER THE DATE OF AUTHORIZED USE.

AND I THINK THAT'S ALL THE ISSUES I HAD.

OKAY.

SO I I PERSONALLY, LIKE ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE NEVER GONNA STOP EVERYONE FROM IF THEY WANNA POP FIREWORKS, PEOPLE ARE GONNA POP FIREWORKS.

UH, THE ONE MAIN REASON I GUESS WHY I WAS AGAINST THE SAILING, SO THIS IS WHY I'M, YOU KNOW, LET'S DO, IS WE DON'T HAVE A CODE FOR TEMPORARY STRUCTURES.

SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT SALE OF FIREWORKS, I WOULD BE A HECK OF A LOT MORE ENTICED IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IN A, LET'S SAY A, UH, BRICK AND MORTAR S BRICK AND MORTAR SHOP WHERE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A WAREHOUSE WHERE THEY'RE SELLING AT WHOLESALE.

I'M ALL FAIR GAME FOR THAT.

THE PROBLEM, I GUESS I, WHEN EV WHEN IT WAS FIRST PER, UH, PRESENTED, MY BIGGEST WAS CONCERN WAS I DON'T WANT TEMPORARY STRUCTURES ALL OVER MY CITY OR ALL OVER OUR CITY.

RIGHT? SORRY TO SAY THAT, BUT THAT, THAT WAS MY BIGGEST CONCERN.

SO, UM, YEAH.

ANY OTHER, SO ARE YOU TAKING, ARE YOU, ARE YOU ASKING TO TAKE OUT SECTION THREE, THE $150 PERMIT AND ALL THAT UNDER THE CONSIST? YES, SIR.

WE CAN COME BACK LATER AT ANOTHER TIME TO DISCUSS SALE WHEN WE GET OUT, WHEN WE CAN FIGURE OUT ZONING AND ALL THAT STUFF, WHEN IT COULD BE APPLICABLE.

BUT I THINK IS IT JUST A USE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW WITH TAKING OUT THE SALE? YOU'RE JUST TAKING OUT THE SALE PROVISION? AND ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT THE SAME EFFECTIVE DATES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME, WHICH IS BASICALLY LIKE A 24 HOUR PERIOD? WHAT I, YEAH, I GUESS I, REMIND ME WHAT THE EFFECT, I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER.

I'M TRYING TO REMIND EVERYBODY , WHAT, WHAT THAT FINAL PERMUTATION WAS.

I THINK ON JULY 4TH, IT'S TILL 11:00 PM AND I THINK ON, UH, NEW YEAR'S, IT'S TILL 1:00 AM THE FOLLOWING DAY ON JANUARY 1ST.

BUT SEE, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU LOOK AT C NUMBER ONE IS FROM 9:00 AM ON JULY THE FOURTH TILL 1:00 AM ON JULY THE FIFTH.

I THINK WE HAD CHANGED THAT THOUGH.

WELL, IT'S NOT CHANGED BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN ORDINANCE.

SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THE CHANGE TO 11:00 PM YES, SIR.

YEAH.

YEAH.

EXCUSE ME.

DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT Y'ALL.

.

THEN ON SECTION TWO IT SAYS FROM 9:00 AM ON DECEMBER 31ST TILL 1:00 AM ON JANUARY 1ST.

SO THAT MEANS THAT ONCE IT'S ONE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, YOU CAN'T POP 'EM THE REST OF THE DAY ON JANUARY 1ST OR ON NEW YEAR'S DAY, ACCORDING TO THIS BY BEING LEGAL.

IS THAT THE TIMES WE WON? BECAUSE WE KNOW THEY POP 'EM FOR A WHOLE WEEK.

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SO DO YOU WANT TO, UM, DO YOU WANT TO PROPOSE ADDING AN ADDITIONAL DAY FOR JANUARY 1ST, UH, IN A TIMELINE TO, IF YOU LET IT GO TO 1159, YOU CAN POP 'EM ALL DAY ON JANUARY 1ST AND ON 4TH OF JULY.

THIS IS WHAT IS WHAT I'M ASKING.

I THINK I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE HOURS.

THE HOURS DON'T MAKE ANY SENSE.

WELL, UM, DECEMBER 31ST TO JANUARY 1ST, THE FIREWORKS TYPICALLY GO GO OFF AT MIDNIGHT.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT THE IDEA IS TO KEEP THEM FROM GOING OFF AT 4:00 AM IN THE MORNING, UH, IN, IN THE SUBDIVISION.

SO I, I THINK TILL ONE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING IS ACCEPTABLE.

AND IF YOU WANT TO EXTEND ANOTHER TIME BEYOND THAT ON JANUARY 1ST, YOU CAN, I'M A FIREMAN.

I'M NOT VOTING FOR IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

SO IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME.

I'M JUST GIVING Y'ALL AN OPTION.

I'M LETTING Y'ALL LOOK AT IT.

THE FIREMEN AND ME FOR 47 YEARS SAYS THEY'RE DANGEROUS TO BURNING HOUSES DOWN, EVEN THOUGH I LOVE POPPING 'EM NOW.

I POPPED, I'M GONNA SURGEON AND PEOPLE BLOW THEIR FINGERS OFF, BUT I'M STILL VOTING FOR IT.

YEAH, I GET IT.

I GUESS FIRST FOOT.

WOW.

UM, FOR CLARITY, THIS KIND IS UP HERE BECAUSE THE PUBLIC JUST A NON-BINDING REFERENDUM TO BRING IT.

I THINK IT'S MORE OF WE CAN PUT ANY, UH, UH, WE CAN PUT ANY ITEM IN THOSE.

THAT'S WHAT OUR, I THINK, CURRENT SITUATION IS.

I WAS CLICKING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN EACH ONE AND I WAS LIKE, OKAY, WHICH ONE ARE WE? YEAH, THERE'S COMMUNICATIONS.

SO FOR CLARITY, LET'S TAKE 4TH OF JULY.

YEP.

WHAT ARE THE TIMES ON 4TH OF JULY? THAT'S, I NEED TO WRITE THAT, THAT OUT.

4TH OF JULY AS IT IS IN HERE, IS FROM 9:00 AM TILL 1:00 AM ON JULY THE FIFTH.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I MAKE IT, I MADE THE RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE THAT TO 11:00 PM SO, BUT ON JULY 4TH, ON JULY 4TH, SO THE, I GUESS THE ONE THING I'M, I'M KIND OF HEARING, AND I, I ACTUALLY AM KIND OF FOR THIS SIDE OF IT IS IF WE DID THIS IN A TIER FASHION, IF WE SAY WE WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA ALLOW IT, BUT WE RESTRICT IT ON JUST ONE DAY AND THEN WE'RE LIKE, ALL RIGHT, THIS IS WORKING, LET'S EXPAND OFF OF THAT.

OR IS IT, IS THIS SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA SET IT AND NEVER TOUCH IT AGAIN? I GUESS THAT'S THE QUESTION I'M, I'M ASKING, UM, IS THIS, DO WE WANT TO RESTRICT IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, STILL ALLOW TO POP ON THOSE DAYS, UM, AS WELL AS THEN EXPAND IT YEARS TO COME? I THINK PROSPECTIVELY YOU CAN EX YOU MIGHT LOOK TO EXPAND IT AT ANY TIME.

YEAH, YEAH.

ACCOUNTS MIGHT DECIDE WHAT THEY DECIDE.

BUT I, I THINK FOR NOW GETTING SOMETHING ON PAPER AND I MEAN, I PERSONALLY, SOMEONE WHO LIKES TO DO FIREWORKS OR PARTIES, I THINK HAVING THAT ONE DAY WINDOW 24 HOURS OR LESS IS AT LEAST A REASONABLE, UM, NEGOTIATION.

LIKE, YOU KNOW, TO COMPROMISE.

SO THERE'S PEOPLE THAT WANNA DO 'EM ALL THE TIME FOR A WEEK, BUT, YOU KNOW, I I THINK TO CON, YOU KNOW, CONCEDE A LITTLE BIT AND HAVE A 24 HOUR WINDOW OR LESS 20 HOUR WINDOW, UM, IT, IT SEEMS TO BE AT LEAST A REASONABLE TRADE OFF IN MY OPINION.

BUT OKAY.

I THINK THE POINT OF BRINGING IT UP WAS YOU'RE ALLOWED TO POP 'EM ON THE 4TH OF JULY ALL DAY ON THE 4TH OF JULY FROM NINE O'CLOCK TILL ONE O'CLOCK THAT NIGHT.

MM-HMM .

MM-HMM BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT THEY DID FOR DECEMBER 31ST, YOU'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO POP 'EM ON NEW YEAR'S EVE AND AT ONE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.

THAT'S IT.

YOU CAN'T POP 'EM AT ALL ON JULY THE FIRST.

THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT UP THE TIME DIFFERENCE ON THAT.

AND I THINK WE PROBABLY OUGHT TO EXPAND THAT TO ALLOW POPPING ON NEW YEAR'S DAY TO A REASONABLE HOUR.

SO ON NEW YEAR'S DAY, LET 'EM GO AHEAD AND GET IT OUTTA THEIR SYSTEM.

YEAH.

BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S GOTTA GO WORK ON THE SECOND ANYWAY.

UNLESS IT'S YEAH.

BUT NO ONE DOES FIREWORKS DURING THE DAY THOUGH.

WE BE TALKING ABOUT NEW YEAR'S DAY EVENING.

YEAH, YOU CAN CHANGE 11 O'CLOCK.

SO HOW ABOUT JUST DO 48 HOURS TOTAL? THAT'S UP.

YEAH.

I MEAN MORE IS OKAY WITH ME.

IT'S UP TO YOU.

MAYBE 10:00 PM ON, UH, NEW YEAR'S DAY.

'CAUSE MOST PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE WORKING ON.

WELL, I, I THINK JUST TO KIND OF REITERATE, I THINK, YOU KNOW, AND KEVIN AND I HAD TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT BEFORE, BUT THE RATIONALE FOR KIND OF MOVING IT TO BOTH FOUR MIDNIGHT ON THE FOURTH IS THAT THAT'S NOT EVERYBODY'S HOLIDAY.

LIKE NEW YEAR'S EVE AND NEW YEAR'S DAY SEEMS TO, YOU KNOW, TECHNICALLY IS, AND THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO WORK ON JULY 5TH.

SO MOVING THAT TIMELINE, AND OF COURSE I DON'T CARE IF WE MOVE IT LATER, BUT THE RATIONALE TO MOVING IT TO 11:00 PM ON THE JULY 4TH WAS JUST IN RESPECT TO THOSE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO ACTUALLY GET UP AND WORK ON JULY 5TH.

I'M ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE.

I GET UP AT 4:00 AM THE NEXT DAY USUALLY.

I'M USUALLY ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE.

UM, HOWEVER, I RESPECT

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SO I THINK THAT WAS A DIFFERENCE.

AND, AND WE CAN MAKE IT UNIFORM.

WE CAN MAKE THE SAME DAYS FOR EACH TIME TO MAKE IT NOT SO CONFUSING FOR EVERYBODY.

THAT'S TOTALLY FINE.

BUT I THINK THAT WAS THE RATIONALE WHY THOSE HOURS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ON THOSE DAYS.

'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT EXACTLY THE SAME KIND OF HOLIDAY.

YEP.

I WOULD RECOMMEND KEEPING IT AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE FOR INTERPRETATION BECAUSE YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU PUT A FLYER OUT, IT'S JUST MUCH EASIER TO SAY THESE ARE THE TIMES.

RIGHT.

AND IT'S VERY EASY TO DIGEST.

WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE THINGS OVERLY COMPLICATED THAT, THAT IT'S FIREWORKS.

SO I JUST LOOKED AT THE DIFFERENCE IN THE DATES AND, AND THE TIMING AND WHAT THE HOLIDAY IS.

OKAY.

I MEAN, UNLESS IT'S A WEEKEND, EVERYBODY HAS TO GO TO WORK ON JULY THE FIFTH.

UNLESS IT'S A WEEKEND, EVERYBODY'S GOTTA GO TO WORK ON JANUARY 2ND.

ANYWAY.

THERE'S REALLY NO DIFFERENCE ON EITHER HOLIDAYS THE NEXT DAY.

YOU GOTTA GO TO WORK ANYWAY UNLESS IT'S A HOLIDAY A WEEKEND.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THE START TIME IS FINE AT 9:00 AM YEP.

GUESS THE QUESTION'S GONNA BE THE END TIME.

ARE WE TALKING 9:00 PM 10:00 PM 11:00 PM SO WHAT IF WE DID 9:00 AM SO THEN I THINK 4TH OF JULY IS A NO BRAINER.

WE, WE KEEP IT AT 11 O'CLOCK.

THAT'S NOT A CELEBRATE AT MIDNIGHT SITUATION.

BUT IF WE'RE GONNA DO THIS, LET'S MAKE COMMON SENSE OF IT.

RIGHT.

SO WHAT IF WE DID NINE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, JUST LIKE NINE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING ON 4TH OF JULY? MM-HMM .

ON JANUARY 31ST, OR SORRY, DECEMBER 31ST AND GO TILL MIDNIGHT JANUARY ONE.

WELL, CAN WE HAVE THE SAME END TIME? YEAH, THAT'S FINE.

JANUARY ONE AS WE DO ON JULY 4TH.

11 O'CLOCK.

YEAH.

SO WE'LL DO 11 O'CLOCK.

YEP.

SAME 9:00 AM START.

PERFECT.

AND SAME WHATEVER TIME IN NINE AND 11.

IT'S JUST TWO DAYS INSTEAD OF IN ONE DAY.

OKAY.

YEAH.

BUT DO YOU WANNA PUSH THAT TO MIDNIGHT FOR THOSE DAYS? WELL, NO, 11 TO, OH WAIT, I MEAN, I DON'T CARE.

I'M SAYING THIS IS Y'ALL'S DAY.

I, YEAH.

I PERSONALLY AM NOT, UH, COMES ABOUT POP FIREWORKS, BUT I KNOW DANG WELL THAT IT'S GONNA HAPPEN WHETHER I LIKE IT OR NOT.

RIGHT.

SO I'M, BUT I THINK I'M MARK.

YEAH, I THINK WE'RE LOOKING FOR SIMPLICITY.

YEP.

I MEAN, PROBABLY MIDNIGHT'S, YOU KNOW, THE MOST SIMPLE WAY TO GO BECAUSE THAT COVERS FOURTH END NINE TO MIDNIGHT.

UM, AND THEN UP TO, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT WAS ON THE FIRST 10 OR 11.

OKAY.

THAT MAKES SENSE.

WHICHEVER THE TWO, THEY JUST NEED TO MIRROR EACH OTHER.

WE, UM, WE'RE DOING 11 ON JULY, DOWN FORTH, THEN WE CAN DO 11 O'CLOCK ON, ON NEW YEAR'S DAY.

IT'S THE SAME.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, WHATEVER IT IS.

9 11, 9 12.

I DON'T PERSONALLY, I JUST WANT IT TO BE THE SAME.

SO I AGREE.

COUNCILMAN, ED, ADMINISTRATOR, DO Y'ALL WANT TO KIND OF WRITE THAT DOWN AND CLEAN IT UP SO THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING? OR DO WE NEED TO, WE JUST NEED MOTION.

I VOTE ON IT WITH THIS SLOPPY CONVERSATION.

.

NO, AS LONG AS I GET SOMEWHAT CLEAR DIRECTION, I CAN COME BACK WITH A DRAFT.

NOW IN MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE COUNCIL IS OTHERWISE OKAY.

WITH THE OTHER PROVISIONS THAT, UH, APPEARED IN THE PREVIOUS DRAFT OF THIS ORDINANCE.

YES.

THAT WE'RE JUST CHANGING THE, THE TIMES OF POSSESSION AND USE MM-HMM .

AND WE'RE TAKING OUT ALL REFERENCE TO SALES REQUIRE.

YEAH.

THE ELIGIBILITY OF SALE.

CORRECT.

ALL OF THREE.

OKAY.

SO 9:00 AM TO 11:00 PM 11:00 PM JUST MAKE IT MIDNIGHT TO MAKE IT SIMPLE.

ARE WE CLEAR? I'M NOT CLEAR 'CAUSE I'M HEARING 11 AND I'M HEARING MIDNIGHT.

I THINK THE CONSENSUS IS MIDNIGHT TO MAKE IT SIMPLE.

'CAUSE NEW YEAR'S EVE IS GONNA BE MIDNIGHT.

I THINK WE WANNA MAKE IT CONSISTENT.

WE SHOULD PROBABLY JUST DO 9:00 AM TO MIDNIGHT.

OKAY.

AND, AND JUST SO Y'ALL WILL KNOW WHEN I DRAFT IT, I WANNA DRAFT IT AS 11:59 PM YEAH.

PERFECT.

JUST SO THERE'S NO CONFUSION REGARDING, HEY, WHAT DATE IS THAT REFERRING TO? PERFECT.

ALRIGHT.

YOU'RE GONNA BRING IT BACK TO US THE NEXT MEETING.

UH, ABSOLUTELY SIR.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS THEN.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? SECOND.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

MOTION PASS.

SIX B.

WE'RE GONNA

[6.B Consideration and possible action to appoint board members to the Dickinson Economic Development Corporation. (DEDC) Matt Sabatier Angela Schaub Brian Beck Callen Hadja Christopher Tucker David Floyd Jo Muse Justin Leal Lindsay Reyes Taylor Humphrey]

SO, OR TABLED ONE OF THE TWO.

I'M NOT STILL SURE WHICH ONE IT IS.

UM, SEVEN.

[7.A RESOLUTION XXX-2025 - Consideration and possible action to approve a resolution authorizing the City Manager to enter into a future contract for the purchase of electricity. (Admin)]

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UH, SO THIS APPROVAL WILL ALLOW ME TO MOVE FORWARD, UH, SIGNING A CONTRACT FOR ELECTRICAL RATES.

UH, I, I, YOU KNOW, AS MANY OF US KNOW, THE, THESE RATES FLUCTUATE DAILY, SO TIMING IS, UH, CRITICAL.

AS I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE, WE'VE BEEN CONDUCTING, UH, COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF ALL CONTRACTS, HEALTH INSURANCE, ELECTRICITY, OUR CONTRACTORS, OUR GEN, OUR ENGINEERS, ANY VENDOR DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY OF BIGOTS.

WE HAVE BEEN REVIEWING THESE CONTRACTS, UH, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.

OUR GOAL IS SIMPLE TO WORK WITH THOSE WHO OFFER THE BEST SERVICE AND VALUE TO OUR COMMUNITY.

THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE'VE DISCOVERED THAT NOT ALL OF OUR CURRENT PROVIDERS ARE MEETING THAT STANDARD.

AND THAT MUST CHANGE.

SO, UH, ONE OF THESE COMPANIES THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH IS A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY.

IT'S A SPECIALIST THAT WAS, UH, UH, WAS INTRODUCED TO ME BY MR. KININ DOC AS SOME LIKE TO REFER TO HIM THROUGH OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT.

.

UH, THEY'VE

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HE IS, UH, MR. KININ HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS HELP TO US AND I WANT TO THANK HIM, UH, FOR HIS ASSISTANCE.

BUT THIS CONTRACT WILL LET US, ALLOW ME TO MOVE FORWARD UPDATING OUR ELECTRICAL RATES, UH, THAT'S STRATEGIC AND FOCUSED ON THE FUTURE.

SO, ALL RIGHT.

DO I, UH, HAVE A MOVE TO APPROVE? SECOND MOTION TO APPROVE.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? UM, DO I HAVE ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS FROM ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS? UH, I NOTICE IT ENDS ON THE 2026 DECEMBER.

IS THAT A CORRECT DATE? THEY GIVE YOU A YEAR, THE CURRENT CONTRACT, BUT WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS CHANGING THE BROKER RIGHT NOW.

I CAN CHANGE OUR BROKER TO, UH, UH, WE HAVE TCAP.

THIS IS FIVE BY ENERGY, UH, ENERGY BY FIVE.

I'M SORRY.

AND THEY, AND THEY WORK WITH SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

ANYTHING.

I'M GOING TO SET UP THE BROKER RIGHT NOW TO CHANGE THE RATES IN THE FUTURE.

YES, THERE ARE.

TO WORK ON A FUTURE CONTRACT FOR, HOLD ON.

25.

DID YOU SAY 25 OR 26? 26.

OUR, OUR CONTRACT ENDS AT THE END OF DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR.

OKAY.

THIS SAYS 26TH.

THAT WOULD BE THE NEW CONTRACT THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING.

THE BROKER.

OUR CONTRACT WITH TCAP ENDS, UH, THIS YEAR, JANUARY 31ST, 2025.

THAT'S A CONTRACT THAT I'M GOING TO SIGN WITH THE NEW BROKER THAT'S GOING TO LOOK INTO OUR RATES.

YOU ARE CORRECT.

THE CURRENT WITHA, OUR CURRENT PROVIDER IS AT THE END OF 26TH.

OKAY.

THAT WILL GIVE US A YEAR, BUT IT WILL GIVE ME THE CHANGE FOR OUR BROKER NOW TO LOOK INTO THE FUTURE TO CHANGE THESE RATES.

MAKE SURE? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

NO, NO, NO.

YOU'RE RIGHT, SIR.

YEAH, I DON'T, IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME, BUT I JUST READ 26.

SO WE GOT TO YES, SIR.

BASICALLY 'CAUSE YOU'RE GETTING A BROKER, BUT WE'RE GOOD FOR ANOTHER YEAR.

YES, SIR.

CORRECT.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSED.

SEVEN B

[7.B Consideration and possible action to designate a representative(s) to the Southeast Texas Housing Finance Corporation ("SETH"). (Admin)]

MOVE TO APPROVE.

OH, WELL YOU NEED A NOMINATION.

HUH? WE NEED A NOMINATION.

SO, UH, OKAY.

DO I HAVE A NOMINATION? IS THIS THE ONE THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD A REPRESENTATIVE FOR QUITE SOME TIME, CORRECT? YES.

YES, SIR.

THAT'S CORRECT.

AND THEY ALSO TOLD US TO JUST MAKE OUR OWN DECISION ON TERM LIMIT.

WE, WE WILL TELL THEM.

SO THAT'S, THEY, THEY WANT THAT PARTICIPATION.

SO IF YOU WANNA DO A ONE YEAR, TWO YEAR, OR THREE YEAR TERM, YOU COULD DO A FOUR YEAR.

I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE.

DOES IT HAVE TO BE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL? I DON'T THINK SO.

OUR, OUR LAST ONE WAS NOT, AND I THINK, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, QUARTERLY, BUT THEY ALSO HAD TRAININGS AND CONFERENCES AND, AND THINGS THAT THEY MET AS REQUIRED OR AS NEEDED, RATHER.

YEAH, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, BUT I CAN RESEARCH IT REAL QUICK.

I MIGHT BE, I MIGHT HAVE IT IN MY EMAIL.

HAVE WE, HAVE WE HAD ANYBODY HAD INTEREST IN THIS POSITION? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF, BUT I THINK WHAT HAPPENED AT THE LAST MEETING, IT GOT BROUGHT UP TO ME BY FRIEND OF MINE IN SANTA FE.

TO ME, THE ONLY SIMPSON, MR. SIM'S THE ONLY ONE THAT, THAT KNOWS ANYBODY THAT'S EVER BEEN HONEST.

NO, NO.

I WASN'T ON IT.

ONE OF THE CHURCH.

NO, I SAID YOU HE KNEW.

WHO KNOWS ONE'S EVER BEEN ON IT? I MEAN, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANYBODY ON THERE.

IF YOU'RE INTERESTED AND YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE DEAL'S ON, WE CAN POSTPONE THIS FOR ONE MORE MONTH IF YOU'RE INTERESTED TO FIND OUT ALL THAT.

I MEAN, IF WE, IF WE NEED ALL THAT, IF WE NEED REPRESENTATION AND THERE'S NO ONE ELSE.

I MEAN, I THINK THEY WOULD LIKE IT IF WE SENT REPRESENTATION, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY NOT NECESSARY.

ALRIGHT.

I'LL SUBMIT MY NAME.

WOULD YOU DO IT? YES.

THAT'S WHAT I ASKED ABOUT.

I CAN'T DO, CAN'T DO WEEKLY.

I MAKE A MOTION.

MOTION TO APPOINT COUNCILMAN HOLT.

SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR? OH, JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.

GOT IT.

UM, I'M LOOKING.

I SEE MONTHLY AGENDAS.

I THOUGHT IT WAS QUARTERLY LAST TIME I HAD TALKED TO SISTER G DR IN THE, YEAH, I'M JUST KIDDING.

.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, IF THAT'S THE CASE, NO.

ARE WE GOOD? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSED.

SEVEN C.

CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO, TO APPROVE.

WE'LL NEED SEVEN C I'M SORRY, WE, WE DON'T NEED SEVEN C.

ALRIGHT, POOL SEVEN C, SEVEN D

[7.D Consideration and possible action to reschedule or cancel City Council meetings during the months of November and December 2025. (Admin)]

WE NEED TO CANCEL, UH, THIS, THE LAST MEETING IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER, BUT WE NEED TO MOVE THE FIRST MEETING IN NOVEMBER BECAUSE THAT'S A HOLIDAY FOR THE EMPLOYEES.

SO THE 11TH IS, UH, VETERAN'S DAY, RIGHT? YES.

YEAH.

SO WE WANT TO DO MONDAY NIGHT AGAIN LIKE WE DID THIS MONTH, OR I'M SORRY, WHAT DAY? WHAT DAY? WE TALKING ABOUT THE FROM MOVE IT FROM THE 11 MONDAY NIGHT NIGHT'S, A HOLIDAY FROM MAINE.