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ALL RIGHT, SO LET'S

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GO AHEAD AND, UH, CALL HER ORDER AND GET A CERTIFICATION OF A QUORUM.

MAYOR TRAVIS MELO, PRESENT, COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNNY SIMPSON.

PRESENT, COUNCIL MEMBER SEAN HOLT.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER MARK TOWNSEND.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER SCOTT SCHRADER.

HERE.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER BILL SCHICK.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER KEVIN EDMONDS HERE.

AND WE HAVE A QUORUM.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

AND, UH, WE ARE GOING TO INVITE PASTOR DAVID BUCO FROM FAITH LUTHERAN, UH, TO GIVE OUR INVOCATION.

AND THEN FOLLOWING OUR INVOCATION, WE WILL, UH, DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, UH, AND THEN, UH, THE TEXAS FLAG AS WELL.

SO EVERYONE PLEASE RISE.

THANK YOU FRIENDS, EVERYONE.

HEY, I WANNA START OFF WITH A READING FROM PSALM 121.

UH, JUST TO REMIND US, UH, WHO HAS GOT US THROUGH ALL THINGS.

AND IT'S ONE OF MY FAVORITE PSALMS, SO BEAR WITH ME.

I LIFTED MY EYES TO THE HILLS.

FROM WHERE DOES MY HELP COME? MY HELP COMES FROM THE LORD WHO MADE HEAVEN AND EARTH.

HE WILL NOT LET YOUR FOOT BE MOVED.

HE WHO KEEPS YOU WILL NOT SLUMBER.

BEHOLD, HE WHO KEEPS ISRAEL WILL NEITHER SLUMBER NOR SLEEP.

THE LORD IS YOUR KEEPER.

THE LORD IS YOUR SHADE ON YOUR RIGHT HAND.

THE SUN SHALL NOT STRIKE YOU BY DAY, NOR THE MOON BY NIGHT.

THE LORD WILL KEEP YOU FROM ALL EVIL.

HE WILL KEEP YOUR LIFE.

THE LORD WILL KEEP YOU GOING OUT.

AND YOU'RE COMING IN FROM THIS TIME FORTH AND FOREVERMORE.

AMEN.

AND SO LET US PRAY.

GOOD AND GRACIOUS.

GOD, WE GIVE YOU SO MUCH.

THANKS FOR OUR SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST.

WE GIVE YOU THANKS FOR THE GIFT OF EACH OF THESE COUNCIL MEMBERS.

FOR TRAVIS AND JOHNNY, FOR SEAN AND MARK FOR SCOTT, FOR BILL, AND FOR KEVIN, FOR ALL THOSE ATTENDANCE TODAY WHO COME TO, TO, TO SHARE, UH, THEIR OPINIONS AND THOUGHTS AND WHERE THEY'RE AT, WE ASK THAT YOU GUIDE THIS MEETING AND JUST THE WORK THAT THIS COUNCIL GETS TO DO AND GUIDE, UH, THIS CITY AS WE GROW AND CARE FOR ONE ANOTHER, THAT WE GET TO LOVE AND ECHO YOUR LOVE.

EXCUSE ME, TO EVERY PERSON.

WE THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU ARE DOING IN THIS PLACE.

AND WE ASK A BLESSING ON THE WORK THAT WE GET TO DO HERE THIS NIGHT.

ALL THIS WE PRAY IN JESUS' NAME.

AMEN.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS WHEN ONE NATION, GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL, HONOR THE TEXAS TO THE TEXAS, TEXAS, ONE STATE LEADER, ONE, UH, PASTOR BUCOY.

YOU'D LIKE TO, UH,

[3. ANNOUNCEMENTS AND PRESENTATIONS]

ACTUALLY, IF YOU HAVE ANY EVENTS GOING ON, I KNOW, UM, Y'ALL ARE, UM, SUBJECT TO ARSON AND JUST RECENTLY GOT TO OPEN YOUR CHURCH, CORRECT? .

SO I'D LIKE TO JUST, IF YOU HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS REAL QUICK, ANYTHING YOU'RE DOING IN, AT YOUR CHURCH.

I KNOW Y'ALL JUST OPENED, SO IT'S, IT'S BEEN A JOURNEY.

IT'S GOOD.

BE BACK IN DICKINSON.

WE WERE GONE FOR TWO YEARS, FOUR MONTHS, NOT THAT WE'RE KEEPING TRACK AND SO GOOD TO BE BACK HERE.

ROOTS HERE.

UH, NINE 30 WORSHIP IF YOU WANNA JOIN US.

UM, YEAH, THANK Y'ALL.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALRIGHT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GO INTO OUR, UH, CITY COUNCIL COMMENT.

SO IF WE WILL, UH, START OVER HERE WITH CA UH, COUNCIL MEMBER EDMONDS, AND WE'LL GO FROM MY LEFT TO RIGHT.

UH, UH, JUST THANK YOU, UH, TO EVERYBODY THAT'S HERE TONIGHT AND EVERYBODY'S ONLINE.

UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENDANCE.

THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY HERE.

IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU, A GREAT CROWD.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE DISCUSSION.

SEPTEMBER 30TH, WENT THROUGH THE, UH, DICKINSON MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.

THEY'RE DOING GREAT THINGS OVER THERE.

UH, WENT TO THE BAY TREND MEETING, THE DRAINAGE MEETING, AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.

THAT'S, UH, GONNA BE VERY BENEFICIAL TO, UH, DICKINSON.

UH, OCTOBER 2ND WAS AN EDC MEETING.

UH, THEN I ATTENDED THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT ON OCTOBER 7TH.

WE RAN INTO GREAT CROWDS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

ANOTHER FUN EVENT.

UH, HOPE WE MAKE IT BIGGER NEXT YEAR.

I WANNA ALSO CONGRATULATE MARJORIE FOR BEING NOMINATED ONE OF THE SMALL BUSINESSES OF GALVESTON COUNTY.

THANK YOU.

WELCOME EVERYONE.

SEE A LOT OF FAMILIAR FACES OUT THERE.

UH, Y'ALL TAKE IT EASY ON US, NOT OKAY, BUT WELCOME EVERYBODY ONLINE TOO.

THANK YOU.

COOL.

I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD.

WELCOME EVERYBODY HERE AND ONLINE.

UH, WELCOME EVERYBODY.

THANKS FOR JOINING BOTH IN PERSON AND ONLINE.

GO AHEAD.

YEAH, UH, REMEMBER TO REMIND PEOPLE WE STILL HAVE SOME BOARDS THAT WE'RE FIXING TO HAVE TO PUT SOME PEOPLE ON.

SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, GO ONLINE, FILL OUT AN APPLICATION FOR THOSE, UH, FESTIVAL LIGHTS HAS STARTED.

THEY'RE WORKING AT PAUL HOPKINS PARK.

SO

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ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO VOLUNTEER ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY TO START AROUND EIGHT O EIGHT O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING OR SO, WORK TILL TWO OR THREE IN THE AFTERNOON, MAYBE FOUR.

UH, YOU CAN GO ONLINE AND, AND, UH, THEY HAVE A F THE FACEBOOK PAGE OR YOU CAN GO DOWN THERE AND VOLUNTEER AND THEY'LL BE GLAD TO HAVE YOUR HELP.

ALSO, ON THE FOURTH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAD THEIR ANNUAL, UH, A WARS BANQUET AND THEY PRESENTED THIS PLAQUE PRESENTED TO THE CITY OF DICKINSON MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND RECOGNITION, APPRECIATION, UH, FOR SUPPORTING AND SPONSORING THE DICKINSON VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT.

SO WE GOT A PLAQUE TO GIVE TO THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR TO HANG SOMEWHERE.

THAT'S IT.

ALRIGHT, AND, UH, I JUST HAVE A COUPLE THINGS.

UM, I KNOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE PLENTY OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT ALL THE ITEMS LATER ON, BUT WE HAVE, UH, WE DID NOT HAVE A DICKINSON, UH, FOOTBALL GAME LAST WEEK.

IT WAS A BI-WEEK, BUT THE DICKINSON GATOR BAND WENT TO THEIR, THEIR FIRST UIL COMPETITION.

THEY RECEIVED ALL ONES, WHICH MEANS THEY GO TO THE NEXT, THE NEXT, UH, COMPETITION.

UH, SO JUST CONGRATULATIONS TO THEM.

I KNOW THEY'VE BEEN WORKING THEIR BUTTS OFF.

UH, THE OTHER BIG ONE, UH, BLACK TIE TEXAS, UH, IS, I THINK IT'S THIS SATURDAY, RIGHT? WE'RE ALL GONNA BE ALL LOOKING SPIFFY, UH, RAISING MONEY FOR ANIMALS.

UM, ONE THING, JUST KNOW THERE IS A MARERE FOR THE DAY, SO YOU CAN COME HANG OUT WITH ME FOR, UM, A LITTLE BIT TOO LONG AND HANG OUT WITH SOME OF YOUR CITY OFFICIALS.

SO, UH, PLEASE GO BID ON THAT SO WE CAN RAISE SOME MONEY FOR, UH, THE BAYOU ANIMAL SERVICES.

OTHER THAN THAT, WE WILL GET INTO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

UH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, OH, SORRY, I APOLOGIZE IF IT'S NOT ON HERE.

WE NEED YOU TO TALK NOW.

.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

CITY MANAGER.

IT'S NOT ON THERE.

YES, SIR.

NO, IT DON'T.

IT'S TRICKY.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL CITIZENS OF OUR GREAT COMMUNITY.

UH, FIRST OFF, UH, ON A PERSONAL NOTE, I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO, UH, TO GIVE MY FATHER-IN-LAW BILL JONES SOME LOVE.

UH, MANY OF YOU KNOW, MY FATHER-IN-LAW'S BEEN STRUGGLING WITH HIS HEALTH FOR MONTHS NOW.

HOSPICE CARE WAS CALLED IN LAST WEEK.

I JUST ASK FOR YOUR THOUGHTS AND YOUR PRAYERS.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS A TOUGH TIME FOR MY WIFE, MY MOTHER-IN-LAW, BUT IF YOU'RE LISTENING, BILL, I'M THINKING OF YOU AS MANY OTHERS ARE RIGHT NOW.

REST EASY KNOWING THAT YOUR DAUGHTER AND YOUR GRANDDAUGHTER WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF.

SIR, GOD BLESS YOU.

LET'S GET INTO SOME CITY BUSINESS.

UH, FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WANT TO EXTEND MY GRATITUDE TO ALL OF OUR VOLUNTEERS, OUR BOARD MEMBERS, THOSE SERVING ON PLANNING AND ZONING, BUILDING STANDARDS COMMISSION, E-D-C-D-M-D-D-H-S-K-D-B-B-A-S-B-F-F.

THERE'S SO MANY LETTERS I'M GONNA GET MIXED UP.

SO, UH, BYE YOU FRIENDS FOREVER.

AND OBVIOUSLY OUR DICKSON VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.

NONE OF THIS WOULD BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT YOUR TIME, YOUR ENERGY, YOUR COMMITMENT TO OUR CITY.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN.

ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.

THE COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENTS, THE INCREASES FOR OUR STAFF HAD BEEN INPUT TO THE SYSTEM AND THEIR COMPLETED.

SO I WANNA THANK COUNSEL FOR APPROVING THIS 5% COLA FOR OUR STAFF DURING LAST MONTH'S BUDGET PROCESS.

A BIG THANK YOU TO SMITH SLOAN MIRANDA FOR ALL YOUR EFFORTS WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND WHILE SARAH CLEM WAS OUT ON MATERNITY LEAVE.

AND WE APPRECIATE YOU ALSO, SARAH, IF YOU'RE, UH, WATCHING, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT YOU AND THE BABY.

HOPE ALL IS WELL.

LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU IN DECEMBER.

SO, UH, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND EVENTS.

UH, OUR BELOVED HORSE THAT WE HAVE AT THE BAYOU RANCH, I'M GONNA SCREW UP THE NAME, IT'S ARU, I BELIEVE IS CURRENTLY SAFE, AND HE'S THRIVING AT THE DICKINSON BAYOU RANCH.

HE WILL SOON BE AVAILABLE FOR ADOPTION.

ALL OF HIS MEDICAL MEDICAL CARE HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND HE'S IN GOOD HEALTH.

HE'S A SWEETENED GENTLE SOUL.

HE WAS ABANDONED IN OUR CITY FOR MONTHS, POSSIBLY YEARS.

BUT THANKS TO OUR COMPASSIONATE EFFORTS OF OUR INCREDIBLE TEAM AT BASS, HE WAS RESCUED AND GIVEN A SECOND CHANCE.

UH, WE'RE ALSO GRATEFUL FOR THE BAYOU FRIENDS FOREVER, BFF, WHO IS REIMBURSING THE CITY THROUGH THE STAR PROGRAM FOR THE MEDICAL COST OF ARU.

SO THANK YOU BFF FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT.

THAT GOES RIGHT INTO THE BLACK TIE EVENT FOR THIS SATURDAY ON OCTOBER 18TH, THE BLACK TIE EVENT IN SUPPORT OF OUR ANIMAL SHELTER.

BFF IS RAISING FUNDS TO PURCHASE A GENERATOR FOR THE SHELTER.

A CRITICAL NEED GIVEN OUR LOCATION ON THE GULF COAST.

A HEARTFELT THANK YOU TO THOSE INVOLVED WITH THE BFF, INCLUDING COLIN COKER, JENNA SIMPSON, AMY ELEMENT, AMY ELLIOT, ELLIOT, ALEXIS, JOE GALVAN, AND SANDY YOUNG.

YOUR DEDICATION MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

SO THANK YOU.

I ALSO WANNA RECOGNIZE NINA BAKER AND HER AMAZING TEAM.

YOUR WORK IS CHANGING LIVES IN OUR COMMUNITY EVERY DAY.

THERE ARE COUNTLESS STORIES LIKE THE HORSES, MANY OF WHICH GO UNHEARD, BUT YOUR EFFORTS DO NOT GO UNNOTICED.

SO THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.

UH, PUBLIC WORKS AND INFRASTRUCTURE UPDATE, THE HUGHES ROAD DRAINAGE PROJECT, WE ALL LOVE, LOVE, AND WE ALL KNOW AND LOVE

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ALL THE TRAFFIC.

IT'S, UH, 43% COMPLETED.

THERE'S A LANE CLOSURE ON FM FIVE 17 EASTBOUND JUST PAST THE RAILROAD TRACKS.

UH, THE ETA MR. MAGNO, WHAT IS ONE, ONE WEEK ON EACH SIDE? NOT ONE WEEK, JUST, OKAY, SO TWO WEEKS TOTAL.

OKAY? THE TRAFFIC IS ROUGH IN THE AREA.

PLEASE BE CAREFUL.

TAKE YOUR TIME, BE PATIENT, BE KIND.

WE HAVE NUMEROUS, WE HAD NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE RAILROAD IN THAT, THAT AREA.

SO WE, UH, WE'RE TAKING CARE OF IT NOW.

SO THIS PAST COUPLE WEEKS, WE HAD SOME UN UNSCHEDULED OUTAGES.

UH, THE WATER LINE WAS RUPTURED AND A POWER LINE WAS HIT BY A DUMP TRUCK.

THESE WERE NOT PLANNED FOR.

LET ME BE CLEAR.

IF THERE IS A SCHEDULED OUTAGE, YOU WILL BE NOTIFIED AT LEAST 48 HOURS BEFORE AN OUTAGE TAKES PLACE.

I CAN PROMISE YOU THAT WE WILL NEVER JUST CUT THE UTILITIES OR, UH, UH, LET THE LIGHTS GO OUT WITHOUT NOTIFYING YOU.

I CAN PROMISE YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE ACCIDENTS THAT OCCUR ON EVERY JOB SITE.

THIS WASN'T AN ACCIDENT.

BUT THE THAT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED, MR. MAGNO HAS ADDRESSED IT WITH THEM.

TRUST ME, THEY, THEY, THEY KNOW WE ARE, WE ARE NOT HAPPY.

BUT, UH, EVERY ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION HAS BEEN ADDRESSED AND RESOLVED.

YOU KNOW, THIS PROJECT IS A MASSIVE STRAIN ON OUR TIME AND OUR RESOURCES.

SO THANK YOU MR. MAGDALENO, FOR YOUR EFFORTS GOING INTO FAITH LUTHERAN CHURCH, THE BIRCH DRIVE IMPROVEMENTS.

SO RECENTLY, A CITIZEN BROUGHT IT TO MY ATTENTION AND I'D LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO CLARIFY IT FOR EVERYONE HERE.

AS YOU MAY RECALL, MAYOR, YOU SPOKE ABOUT IT AND HE SPOKE ABOUT IT EARLIER.

THE CHURCH WAS TRAGICALLY SET ON FIRE BY A ARSONIST AROUND TWO YEARS AGO.

SINCE THEN, WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE CHURCH LEADERSHIP, MR. RUBECK, THROUGHOUT THE REMODELING, PLANNING, REVIEW, PROCESSING, CONSTRUCTION, DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO SUPPORT THE CHURCH AND THE COMMUNITY.

SO DECADES AGO, WHEN THE CHURCH WAS CONSTRUCTED, IT WAS CONSTRUCTED RIGHT ALONG OUR RIGHT OF WAY, RIGHT ON OUR PROPERTY.

SO THE PARKING LOT WHERE EVERYONE, WHERE THEY PARK ON THE SIDE OF BIRCH STREET IS THE CITY'S PROPERTY.

A COUPLE OF OUR CITIZENS WENT BY TAKING PICTURES AND THEY SAY, LOOK, Y'ALL ARE FIXING THEIR DRIVEWAY.

Y'ALL ARE FIXING THEIR PARKING LOT.

AND THAT IS NOT THE CASE AT A CITY PROPERTY.

THERE'S A DRAINAGE PIPE THAT RUNS RIGHT BELOW IT THAT FEEDS INTO FIVE 17.

I TOLD THE CHURCH ELDERS AND THE LEADERSHIP THAT, HEY, ONCE Y'ALL GET CLOSER TO FINISHING THE REMODEL, THAT WE WILL REPLACE THE DRAINAGE PIPE AND WE WILL RESET THE PARKING CITY PROPERTY.

SO THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE ARE SEEING.

THEY THINK THAT WE'RE IMPROVING THEIR PARKING LOT JUST TO DO THEM A FAVOR.

TECHNICALLY, IT'S CITY RIGHT AWAY, BUT THAT'S THE LEAST WE CAN DO TO SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, ONE OF OUR CHURCHES AND, AND WHO'S VITAL IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO HAD A ARSON, A VICTIM OF ARSON.

SO, UH, PLEASE, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A CHURCH TO WORSHIP ON SUNDAYS, GO CHECK OUT THE NEWLY REMODELED FAITH LUTHERAN CHURCH.

.

ALRIGHT, SO, UH, THANK YOU COUNSEL FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT AND COLLABORATION AS WE APPROACH THE END OF THE YEAR.

OUR FOCUS REMAINS ON FINISHING STRONG BUILDING UPON THE FOUNDATION WE'VE LAID AND CONTINUING TO TO MOVE OUR CITY FORWARD.

PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO REACH OUT FOR ANY QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, IDEAS, REQUESTS.

I APPRECIATE YOUR PARTNERSHIP AND COMMITMENT TO OUR CITY THAT INCLUDE.

THAT CONCLUDES THE CITY MANAGER'S UPDATE.

MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

AND WE GOT, UH, I KNOW WE HAVE AT LEAST ONE FOR CALL UP T BEARSON.

YEAH, THERE IS CHIEF BEARSON.

COME ON UP.

ALRIGHT.

YEP.

SO, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, AS YOU KNOW, SERGEANT TRENTHAM HAS, UH, LEFT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND JOINED THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

AND I THINK IT'S QUITE FITTING TO, UH, PRESENT HIM A TOKEN OF OUR APPRECIATION FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE INSCRIPTION ON THE AWARD THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO PROVIDE HIM.

STATES PROUDLY PRESENTED TO SERGEANT GREG TRAUM IN RECOGNITION OF 25 YEARS OF DISTINGUISHED SERVICE TO THE DICKINSON POLICE DEPARTMENT AND AN UNWAVERING DEDICATION TO THE SAFETY AND WELLBEING OF THE CITIZENS AND THE COMMUNITY.

YOUR PROFESSIONALISM, YOUR INTEGRITY, AND THE COMMITMENT TO DUTY HAVE LEFT A LEFT, A LEGACY OF SERVICE AND HONOR.

SO IT'S OUR HONOR COMMISSIONED BY THE DEPARTMENT.

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DO WE HAVE ANY MORE, UH, DEPARTMENT HEADS? OKAY.

ALRIGHT, NOW WE'LL GO ON

[4. PUBLIC COMMENTS]

AND MOVE TO NUMBER FOUR.

PUBLIC COMMENTS.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE INVITED TO GIVE COMMENTS AT THIS TIME, LASTING NOT LONGER THAN THREE MINUTES.

COMMENTS MAY BE GENERAL IN NATURE OR MAY ADDRESS A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM AND SHOULD BE DIRECTED AT THE ENTIRE COUNCIL, NOT INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL OR STAFF.

ANY SPEAKER, UH, ANY SPEAKER MAKING PERSONAL ATTACKS OR USING VULGAR OR PROFANE LANGUAGE SHALL FORFEIT HIS OR HER REMAINING TIME AND SHALL BE SEATED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.

THE CITY COUNCIL MAY NOT DELIBERATE.

UM, ALRIGHT, SO FOR THE GENERAL COMMENTS WE HAVE MS. ANN BRAGG.

GOOD EVENING COUNSEL.

IT'S, IT'S A GREAT PLEASURE TO COME AND TALK TO YOU.

UH, I AM A PAST PRESIDENT OF THE WE AND WISH GARDEN CLUB AND THE WE AND WISH CORPORATION.

THE WE AND WISH CORPORATION WAS THE ENTITY THAT WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR BUILDING AND REPAIRING THE RAILROAD, THE DICKINSON AND LEAGUE CITY RAILROAD DEPOTS, WHICH WE CALL THE RAILROAD MUSEUM CENTER IN, JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORY.

IN 1969 WITH 185 MEMBERS, THE GARDEN CLUB VOTED TO TAKE THE DICKINSON RAILROAD DEPOT AND MAKE IT A RAILROAD MUSEUM.

WE HAD 185 MEMBERS LATER, THE LEAGUE, CITY DEPOT BECAME AVAILABLE.

AND IT WAS THEN OBVIOUS TO US THAT WE HAD NOT PLANNED A PLACE FOR OFFICES TO MANAGE THE MUSEUM.

AND WITH THE LARGE SIZE OF THE LEAGUE, CITY DEPOT, IT WOULD BE A GREAT COMMUNITY CENTER.

SO THE CLUB VOTED TO ACCEPT THE LEAGUE CITY, UH, DEPOT.

SO WITH THE GRANT FROM THE MOODY FOUNDATION AND MONEY THAT THE GARDEN CLUB HAD RAISED WITH THEIR, UH, TOUR, CHRISTMAS TOUR OF HOMES, WE STARTED DOING THE REPAIRS.

WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE MEETING ROOM READY WITH THE LEAGUE CITY DEPOT, BECAUSE WE DID A LOT OF THE WORK OURSELVES.

WE PAINTED, WE STOOD ON LADDERS AND WE DID A LOT OF THE WORK OURSELVES, AND WE WERE PROUD OF THAT.

WE ALSO STARTED THE WORK WITH, UH, WITH THE DICKINSON MUSEUM.

WE WANTED TO MAKE IT LIKE IT WAS IN THE BEGINNING.

SO THAT TOOK A LOT OF ADDITIONAL EFFORT IN RESEARCH.

BUT AS THE YEARS WENT ON AND WE HAD NOT ACCOMPLISHED OUR GOAL AT THE DICKINSON RAILROAD AS, UH, DEPOT AS A MUSEUM, WE AT THAT STAGE HAD ONLY 40 MEMBERS IN OUR CLUB.

AND WE REALIZED WE DIDN'T HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO EARN ENOUGH MONEY TO FINISH WHAT WE WANTED.

SO THE DECISION WAS MADE TO GIVE IT TO THE CITY.

AND AT THAT TIME, THE AGREEMENT WAS THAT THE CLUB WOULD ALWAYS HAVE A PLACE TO MEET FREE IN THE LEAGUE.

CITY DEPOT, THE CITY WITH THE HELP OF OUR GARDEN CLUB MEMBERS APPLIED FOR A GRANT AND RECEIVED A GRANT FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS, WHICH ENABLED THE DICKINSON DEPOT TO BE COMPLETED AND TO OPEN AS A RAIL ROAD MUSEUM.

AND SO REALLY THE CITY HAD NOT SPENT MUCH MONEY AT ALL TO GET THE DEPOT IN ITS ORIGINAL SHAPE, OPENED AND RUNNING.

AND Y'ALL, THE DICKINSON DEPOT AND LEE CITY DEPOT ARE SUCH A PRIDE TO OUR COMMUNITY.

IT'S SOMETHING NOT EVERY LITTLE SMALL TOWN.

WE'RE A SMALL TOWN.

WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF, UH, THINGS TO REALLY TALK ABOUT, BUT THE RAILROAD MUSEUM CENTER HAS DONE A LOT FOR OUR TOWN.

AND, UH, YOU JUST NEED SOME CLOSING REMARKS.

I'LL LET YOU

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FINISH UP.

IT GOT, WE GOT THREE MINUTES.

THE CITY, WITH THE HELP OF THE GARDEN APPLIED, WE APPLIED FOR THE GRANT AND GOT IT.

BUT RECENTLY WE WERE TOLD WE CANNOT MEET IN THE LEAGUE CITY DEPOT BECAUSE IT'S BEEN CONDEMNED, BECAUSE THE AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM ISN'T WORKING.

SOME HANDRAILS ARE MISSING AND FLEAS ARE UNDER THE BUILDING.

WELL, Y'ALL, THOSE ARE NOT MAJOR REPAIRS.

WE CAN DO THAT AND WE CAN KEEP OUR LEAGUE CITY DEPOT OPEN BECAUSE WE NEED IT.

DICKINSON NEEDS A PLACE FOR CLUBS TO MEET FOR SOCIAL ACTIVITIES, AND WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER PLACE LIKE THAT.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

PLEASE, PLEASE KEEP IT FOR US.

SO IF ANYONE ELSE THAT IS ALSO IN THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, UH, TO TALK ABOUT SEVEN H, WE'RE I'M MOVING IT TO THE FRONT OF THE LINE.

SO IF YOU WANT TO, IF YOU'RE GOING, IF YOU'RE IN GENERAL COMMENTS AND YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THE SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM, SO WE CAN ACTUALLY, I'M SORRY, I DID SIGN UP ON THE GENERAL.

THAT'S FINE.

YOU CAN IF I HAVE.

THAT'S FINE.

UH, AND YOUR NAME IS JOAN.

OKAY.

YOU'RE WELL, YOU'RE, YOU ARE NEXT UP.

OKAY.

SO COME ON UP AND I HAVE OTHER THINGS TO TALK ABOUT TOO.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, SO MY NAME IS JOAN MELROSE.

I'M THE DIRECTOR OF DICKINSON HISTORICAL SOCIETY.

GOOD EVENING TO YOU ALL.

UM, YES.

UM, I LIVE AT 27 16 FROST WOOD CIRCLE IN DICKINSON.

UM, SO FIRST I WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO REESE ACROSS AMERICA AGAIN, BOTH AT THE HISTORICALLY BLACK MAGNOLIA CEMETERY AND THE CITY CEMETERY ON DECEMBER 13TH.

THIS IS TO RECOGNIZE ALL THE VETERANS THAT WE'RE BURYING IN THOSE GRAVEYARDS.

UM, IT'S A VERY NICE EVENT.

I KNOW BILL HAS COME BACK IN, COME IN THE PAST, THE ROTC FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL PARTICIPATE AS WELL AS THE SCOUTS.

UM, SO THAT IS DECEMBER 13TH.

IF YOU WANNA DONATE A WREATH, THEY COST $17 GO GO OUR WEBSITE.

THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION WAS, WE'RE HAVING A POTTERY SHOW AND, UM, SALE ON NOVEMBER 14TH.

WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE IT AT THE DEPOT.

I THINK WE'RE ALL THE REPAIRS WE CAN KIND OF MANAGE THE PEOPLE.

BUT, UM, WE SUPPORT THE LOCAL POTTERY GUILD, THE SALT GRASS GUILD MADE HERE IN DICKINSON.

SO, UM, AND THAT'S ALWAYS A FUN EVENT.

NOVEMBER 14TH IS FOR THAT.

AND THEN I DID WANNA THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE HERE IN THE CITY.

YOU KNOW, VOLUNTEERS REALLY MAKE THIS CITY RUN, AND I LIKE THAT.

I LIKE THAT.

BUT, UM, DUE TO SOME HEALTH PROBLEMS THAT I'VE HAD, UM, I'VE BEEN OUT OF THE LOOP.

SO I HEARD THIS RUMOR THAT THE CITY WANTED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH THE DEPOT OR MAYBE EVEN STOP MAIN MAINTAINING IT.

AND, YOU KNOW, THIS JUST BREAKS MY HEART.

UM, I JUST, I, I AGREE AT THIS POINT THAT THE DEPOT IS NOT REACHING ITS POTENTIAL.

UM, I THINK MORE CAN BE DONE.

I THINK WE NEED A PLAN TO KIND OF TAKE CARE OF IT.

UM, AND I'M WILLING TO HELP OUT AND I KNOW MY MEMBERS OF MY HISTORICAL SOCIETY ARE WILLING TO HELP OUT TOO.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

CAN I GIVE IN THREE MINUTES? ABSOLUTELY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND THEN THE OTHER ONE I HAVE IN GENERAL COMMENTS IS, UH, MS. MARY DUMBBELL.

THANK YOU.

AND GOOD EVENING.

UH, MY NAME IS MARY DUNBAR.

I LIVE AT 27 0 1 COLONIAL DRIVE IN DICKINSON.

AND I'VE BEEN AFFILIATED WITH THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY SINCE IT WAS ORIGINATED BACK WHEN WE GOT THE, THE, UH, THE BUILDINGS FROM THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY GAVE THEM TO THE CITY.

THAT KIND OF IS HOW THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY GOT STARTED BACK THEN.

UM, WE HAVE USED THE, UH, FACILITY OUT THERE UP UNTIL COVID WITH MANY DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES.

WE'VE HAD, UM, FUN RUNS OUT THERE.

WE'VE HAD ART, ART SHOWS, WE'VE HAD, UH, POTTERY SHOWS, WE'VE HAD SEED SOAPS, ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE.

WE'VE TAKEN KIDS THROUGH THE MUSEUM FROM THE SCHOOL.

WE'VE WORKED WITH THE FIFTH GRADE, UH, TEACHERS THAT TEACH TEXAS HISTORY.

SO OUR KIDS LEARN ABOUT THEIR CITY'S HISTORY AND, UH, WE ARE PRETTY ACTIVE.

THE THING THAT I'D LIKE TO TALK TO WITH JOAN SAID IF THERE IS A WAY THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO OPERATE

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AS A RAILROAD COMMUNITY CENTER AND MUSEUM, I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT WE GIVE SOME THOUGHT TO HOW WE CAN FUND IT IN THE FUTURE.

I THINK THIS IS ONE THING THAT WAS LEFT OUT WHEN WE FIRST STARTED, AND WHEN I SAY WE, I MEAN EVERYBODY IN THE CITY.

WE THOUGHT WE, THE MONEY WOULD JUST BE THERE.

IF, HOWEVER IT ISN'T.

SO WE NEED TO PUT, CONSIDER PUTTING AN ORDINANCE IN OUR BOOKS ABOUT A HISTORY PRESERVATION FUND AS A LINE ITEM IN THE CITY'S BUDGET AND HOW MONEY CAN BE GIVEN TO IT AND USED FROM IT.

AND I'LL BE GLAD TO HELP ANYBODY WITH A COMMITTEE TO FROM THE CITY AND FROM THE ORGANIZATIONS TO TALK ABOUT THIS IN THE FUTURE.

AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, SO I WILL GO TO, UM,

[5. CONSENT AGENDA]

NUMBER FIVE CONSENT AGENDA.

THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE CONSIDERED ROUTINE BY THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION.

THERE WILL NOT BE A SEPARATE DISCUSSION, UH, ON THESE ITEMS UNLESS A COUNCIL MEMBER REQUESTS IN WHICH EVENT THE ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND DISCUSSED AFTER THE CONSENT AGENDA.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? SHALL VOTE SECOND? I GOT A MOTION.

I GOT A SECOND.

UH, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSED.

ALL RIGHT.

SO CAN I ASK ONE QUESTION ON THAT? I DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANT PULL IT, BUT YEP.

WHAT ABOUT THE, UH, THE GETTING THE FOUR POLICE CARS, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE ONE FOR EMS THAT WAS IN THE BUDGET? WE GETTING THAT NOW OR LATER? I I CAN ANSWER THAT.

I CAN ANSWER THAT.

GO AHEAD MR. MA.

I, I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S APPROPRIATE TO ANSWER AT THIS TIME, BUT I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE ASKING AND THAT THAT MONEY WAS USED FOR TWO ACTUALLY, MR. ROBBINS, WOULD YOU COME UP HERE? NEVERMIND.

THAT'S FOR THE I KNOW WHAT IT WAS.

NEVERMIND.

NEVERMIND.

OKAY, SO NOW'S NOT THE RIGHT TIME.

YEAH, YEAH.

BUT THERE IS AN EXPLANATION FOR THAT MONEY.

AND IT WAS APPROVED EDS OR THE MODEL.

YES SIR.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT, SO LET'S GO TO SIX OLD

[6.A ORDINANCE NO. XXXX-2025 - Consideration and possible action to approve an ordinance to amend the official zoning map from Auto-Centric Commercial (AC) zoning district to Urban Transition (UT) zoning district for a parcel of land of approx. ±0.459 acres. The subject property consist of one parcel (163404) and registered address is 3532 Elm Dr. (2nd Reading) (Community Development)]

BUSINESS SIX A CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP FOR AUTOCENTRIC COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT TO URBAN TRANSITION ZONING DISTRICT FOR A PARCEL OF LAND OF APPROXIMATELY PLUS OR MINUS 0.459 ACRES.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY PROPERTY CONSISTS OF ONE PARCEL AND REGISTERED ADDRESS IS 3 5 3 2 ELM DRIVE.

SECOND READING.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

ANY COMMENTS, CONCERNS? IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSED.

SIX B CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE

[6.B ORDINANCE NO. XXXX-2025 - Consideration and possible action to approve an ordinance to amend the official zoning map from Auto-Centric Commercial (AC) zoning district to Neighborhood Conservation (NC) zoning district for a parcel of land of approx. ±1.336 acres. The subject property consists of one Parcel (375913) and located at the corner of Gum Dr. and FM 517 E. (2nd Reading) (Community Development)]

ACTION TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP FOR AUTOCENTRIC COMMERCIAL, UH, ZONING DISTRICT TO NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION ZONING DISTRICT FOR A PARCEL OF LAND OF APPROXIMATELY PLUS OR MINUS 1.336 ACRES.

SUBJECT PROPERTY CONSISTS OF ONE PARCEL AND LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF GUM DRIVE AND FM FIVE 17 E.

SECOND READING.

APPROVE THAT.

A MOTION TO APPROVE.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? GOT A SECOND.

UH, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSED.

ALRIGHT, SO GETTING INTO NEW BUSINESS, WE

[7.H Discussion and possible action concerning an Administrative Service Agreement with the users of Dickinson Historic Rail Road Depot (Schick) ]

ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO TAKE SEVEN H AND WE ARE GONNA MOVE IT TO THE TOP.

UM, 'CAUSE I KNOW SOME OF YOU HAVE MUCH BETTER THINGS TO DO THAN HANG OUT WITH ME ALL NIGHT.

UM, SO SEVEN H DISCUSSION, UH, AND POSSIBLE ACTION CONCERNING AN ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH THE USERS OF DICKINSON, HISTORICAL RAILROAD DEPOT.

I ASKED, I WAS, I KNOW, UH, MR. SCHICK AND MYSELF BOTH ASKED FOR THIS TO BE ON THIS AGENDA.

I WANT EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND I HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF CLOSING DOWN THE, THE RAILROAD DEPOT.

I HAVE NO INTENTIONS PERSONALLY, RIGHT? SO THE REASON WHY I ASK, SO LET, LET ME WAIT A SECOND BEFORE YOU START CHEERING.

HOLD ON.

, YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE LIKE EVERYTHING I HAVE TO SAY .

UM, THE, THE THING I WANTED TO KNOW IS WHAT IS IT THAT OUR CITIZENS VALUE? BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN, WHEN WE LOOK AT A GOVERNMENT ENTITY, UM, YES, WE MAKE THE DECISIONS, BUT REALISTICALLY, I CAN'T MAKE DECISIONS IF I DON'T KNOW WHAT MY CITIZENS WANT WITH IT.

THIS IS TOO TOUCHY OF A SUBJECT FOR US TO A SEVEN AS A COLLECTIVE TO JUST, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.

SO WE ARE GOING BACK TO THE BASICS AND SAYING, I WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.

THIS IS NOT THE INTENTIONS.

BUT I ALSO HAVE QUESTIONS.

FOR INSTANCE, WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR ALL OF THIS? THAT IS THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR EVERYONE THAT DECIDES TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT WITH, 'CAUSE I'M ABOUT TO OPEN IT UP FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

WHO IS GOING TO PAY FOR IT? BECAUSE REMEMBER, WE HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF, WE HAVE A FINITE AMOUNT OF TAX PAYING DOLLARS.

AND I ABSOLUTELY HAVE MY OWN PLAN.

ONCE AGAIN, MY DAD

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ALWAYS TOLD ME, DO NOT COME TO THE PARTY WITHOUT A SOLUTION IF YOU'RE GONNA COMPLAIN ABOUT SOMETHING.

SO I HAVE A SOLUTION.

BUT IF WE'RE DOING IT AT THE CITY, THEN THAT'S A PROBLEM, RIGHT? IF WE HAVE A HISTORICAL SOCIETY, WE HAVE THESE NONPROFITS THAT COULD HELP DO IT.

SO WE COULD POTENTIALLY PARTNER TOGETHER.

I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE BEST SOLUTION WITH COUNCIL'S OPINION, YOUR GUYS' OPINION.

'CAUSE I ACTUALLY WENT THERE THIS MORNING AND I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY WE HAVE A VERY, VERY GOOD OPPORTUNITY.

HOWEVER, IT MIGHT NOT BE EXACTLY HOW IT IS TODAY IS I GUESS THE THING THAT IT KEEPING OPEN MIND GOING INTO IT.

SO PUBLIC COMMENTS, WE HAVE A LOT OF 'EM.

SO LET'S, UH, WE GOT CINDY, UH, MISS CINDY DEL PALMERO, PALERMO, GOD BLESS.

I'M SO SORRY.

GOOD EVENING.

I'M CINDY D PALERMO.

AND UH, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME ADDRESS YOU ALL THIS EVENING.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T REMEMBER MUCH FROM MY CHILDHOOD, BUT ONE THING I DO REMEMBER WAS THE TIRELESS WORK.

MY MOTHER, THE LAKE GWEN NUGENT, UM, PUT INTO SAVING THE DICKINSON RAILROAD DEPOT, HER, ALONG WITH JOANNE STANSFIELD.

AND THE REST OF THE WE AND WISH GARDEN CLUB WENT OVER AND BEYOND TO SEE THIS PROJECT THROUGH, BACK IN 1965, THE DEPOT WAS SET FOR BEING DEMOLISHED AND THE GARDEN CLUB ASKED IF THEY COULD PLEASE HAVE IT, AND THEY SAID, YES, YOU CAN HAVE IT AS LONG AS YOU MOVE IT.

SO THE LADIES WENT TO WORK AND RECEIVED A DONATION FROM THE NERS FOR THE HALF ACRE THAT THE DEPOT SITS ON TODAY.

AND THEN CAME THE PART OF MOVING THIS DEPOT.

AND THESE LADIES TOOK THIS PROJECT ON, AND I CAN REMEMBER COUNTLESS HOURS OF MY MOM ON THE PHONE AND LADIES IN OUR KITCHEN TALKING ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND THE LOVE AND PASSION THAT THEY HAD FOR IT, FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND TO PRESERVE THE HISTORY OF OUR COMMUNITY.

I REMEMBER WATCHING THE DEPOT COME DOWN THE ROAD AS A CHILD AND REACH ITS DESTINATION, WHICH WAS NO EASY FEAT.

AND I ALSO REMEMBER WHEN MY MOM GOT A CALL FROM LEAGUE CITY OFFERING THE, THE LEAGUE CITY DEPOT TO THE CLUB.

AND AGAIN, MEMBERS WENT TO WORK AND GOT IT DONE.

AT THIS POINT, THE LADIES HAD TO RAISE THE MONEY TO RENOVATE IT IN WHICH THEY DID WITH THE HELP OF THE COMMUNITY.

A GRANT FOR $25,000 WAS, WAS GRANTED TO THEM, ALONG WITH A $2,500 MATCHED DONATION FROM, UM, THE KEPPNER GROUP AND THE CLUB'S SUCCESS, UH, WAS THE CLUB'S SUCCESS WAS TO PRESERVE THE HISTORY OF DICKINSON AND CREATE A COMMUNITY CENTER AND A GARDEN CENTER FOR THE WHEATON WISH GARDEN CLUB.

AND I'M JUST ASKING Y'ALL TODAY TO NOT LET THE WORK, THE PASSION, THE DEDICATION AND SUCCESS OF THESE WOMEN BACK IN 1966, ALL THE WHOLE, WHOLE HARD WORK THAT THEY DID GO TO WASTE.

UH, WE NEED TO PRESERVE THE HISTORY OF DICKINSON AND RECOGNIZE THE HEROIC SUCCESSES THAT THESE LADIES CONTRIBUTED TO OUR COMMUNITY.

AND WE HAVE TWO OF THE LADIES WITH US TODAY, UM, MILDRED AND HELEN, THAT ACTUALLY, UH, WITNESSED ALL THIS AND THEIR, UM, THEIR PASSION FOR IT AS WELL.

AND SO I JUST ASK THAT YOU KEEP THAT IN MIND.

I ALSO HAVE, AS FAR AS THE WAY FUNDING HAPPENED BACK THEN IS I HAVE A NEWSPAPER HERE AND IT TALKED ABOUT ALL THE BUSINESSES WISHING THE WE AND WISH GARDEN CLUB LUCK IN, UM, GETTING THE MONEY THAT THEY NEEDED TO RENOVATE, UM, THE MUSEUM.

AND SO I'M GOING TO, UM, TO SAY THAT MRS. DUNBAR'S RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL I BACK THAT.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

I KNOW WE NEED A SOLUTION, BUT I'M ASKING YOU THIS EVENING TO PLEASE PRESERVE THE RAILROAD MUSEUM.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, NEXT I HAVE MISS, UM, JULIE, UM, MASTERS.

MASTERS.

OH, MASTERS .

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S HOW IT'S ACTUALLY SPELLED, BUT UM, WE'LL CALL IT THAT.

I HAVE TERRIBLE HANDWRITING.

I ADMIT IT.

WELL, YEAH.

SO YOU'VE HEARD FROM THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY.

UH, SO NOW YOU'LL HEAR FROM KEITH DICKINSON BEAUTIFUL.

WHO OFFICES AT

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THE DEPOT AS WELL.

I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORY 'CAUSE I THINK THERE'S SOME OF YOU UP HERE THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE IN THE CITY.

SO BEAR WITH ME AS I READ THIS.

UM, KEEP DICKINSON BEAUTIFUL.

WAS FARMED IN 1987 AT THE SUGGESTION OF A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT HAD ATTENDED A TML CONFERENCE WHERE HE HEARD ABOUT AND SPOKE TO THE KEEP TEXAS BEAUTIFUL STAFF.

HE APPROACHED SEVERAL COMMUNITY MEMBERS WITH THE IDEA OF STARTING AN AFFILIATE TO HELP CLEAN UP DICKINSON AND THEY GOT TO WORK.

ONE OF THOSE MEMBERS WAS MISS MARY AUGH.

KDB APPLIED FOR A 5 0 1 C3 STATUS IN 1989 AND INCORPORATED IN 1990.

I WANNA READ YOU FROM ONE OF THEIR RECORDS.

FROM 1989, UH, THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT PARTNERSHIP.

OUR CITY DOES NOT HAVE A PUBLIC WORKS OR HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

THE MAYOR, CITY ADMINISTRATORS, SEVERAL MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL AND CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ARE ON THE BOARD OR ARE MEMBERS OF DICKINSON.

BEAUTIFUL.

DICKINSON BEAUTIFUL IS A LINE ITEM ON THE CITY BUDGET.

THE CITY PROVIDES SIGNS FOR HIGHWAY AND SCHOOL AND ADOPT A SPOT GROUPS.

THEY PROVIDE SECRETARIAL SUPPORT, OFFICE SUPPLIES AND EQUIPMENT, AND A MEETING ROOM FOR KEEP DICKINSON BEAUTIFUL ACTIVITIES.

AND THEY CONTINUE TO DO SO.

I JOINED THE BOARD OF KDB IN 1999.

THEIR MEETINGS WERE HELD HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND WELL IN THE OLD CITY HALL.

AND WE HAD AN OFFICE IN CITY HALL ALONG WITH THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY.

I SERVED AS PRESIDENT IN 2001 AND WAS HIRED AS THEIR EXECUTIVE COORDINATOR IN 2003.

THE DECADES OF SUPPORT BY THE CITY HAS SHOWN THIS ORGANIZATION AND NUMEROUS OTHER DICKINSON NONPROFITS THAT THEIR EFFORTS WERE VERY MUCH APPRECIATED BY THE LEADERS AND ADMINISTRATORS OF THE CITY.

I HAVE BEEN ASKED BY SOME WHAT HAS KDB DONE FOR THE CITY? KDB HAS BROUGHT APPROXIMATELY $1.5 MILLION IN GRANTS FOR PROJECTS TO THE COMMUNITY.

HERE ARE SOME OF OUR LARGER ONES.

THE GCAA, WHICH IS THE GOVERNOR'S COMMUNITY ACHIEVEMENT AWARD IS A TXDOT FUNDED LANDSCAPE AWARD.

IT'S OFFERED TO ALL KEEP TEXAS BEAUTIFUL AFFILIATES THAT APPLY AND WIN 10 AWARDS ARE GIVEN.

EACH YEAR AMOUNT IS BASED ON POPULATION.

NO ORGANIZATION IS ELIGIBLE TO WIN, BUT EVERY SO MANY YEARS, THE TWO AWARDS KDB WON WAS 19 93, 19 96, OR $65,000 EACH.

SO DIGGING SOME BEAUTIFUL COMBINE, THE WINNINGS USE THE AWARD TO HAVE THE CRATE MYRTLE PLANTER BOXES BUILT AT ALL THE BIO CROSSINGS AS WELL AS THE ENTRY SIGN ON HIGHWAY THREE NEAR 20TH STREET.

THE CITY HAS NEVER HELPED WITH MAINTAINING THOSE BOXES EXCEPT TO CHANGE THE BATTERIES IN THE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS. BUT THAT STOPPED WHEN PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR KELIS GEORGE RETIRED FROM THE CITY SOME 10 YEARS AGO.

OH, SORRY, JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO THEY DID PRUNE THE, UH, CRATE MYRTLES WAY, WAY BACK.

I CALL THAT CRE MURDER, BUT THEY LOOK, LOOK GREAT.

SO ALL IS FORGIVEN.

UH, WE WON THE GCAA AGAIN IN 2003, 2007, 11 15, 19 AND 23.

THE AWARDS ARE FOR $180,000 EACH FOR LANDSCAPE PROJECTS.

2003, IT WAS USED IN 2005.

THE GRANT WAS USED TO BUILD AND INSTALL THE TXDOT AND DICKINSON SIGN OF LANDSCAPING AT THE CVS AT 45 AND THE SHELL STATION AND THE TREES AND SHRUBS ON THE FREEWAY SLOPES AT THE I 45 OVERPASS.

THE 2000, UH, GRANT WOULD JUST NEED A CLOSING.

WE'RE AT LITTLE PAST THREE MINUTES.

YOU GOTTA HEAR ME.

OH, I, THE, THE PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE THREE MINUTES.

I THINK THIS ONE YOU GET LONGER.

NO, I'M SORRY, BUT WE'RE NOT DOING THAT.

.

WE HAVE TO GET READY TO HAUL ME OUT HERE.

ALL RIGHT.

2000, THE 2000 RE WAS USED IN 2009.

NO, EXCUSE ME.

SO PLEASE, IF THERE'S NO WAY YOU'RE GONNA, YOU CAN COME IN HERE AND TRY AND TELL ME THAT YOU'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING WITHOUT ME GETTING THE COUNCIL TO ALLOW TO EXTEND YOU USED TO BE THE MAYOR, YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S PROTOCOLS.

SO WE, WE HAVE THIS BECAUSE OF REELS AND I SAID WE NEED CLOSING STATEMENTS.

AND YOU JUST TOLD ME TO EXTEND IT.

I'M ASKING YOU TO EXTEND IT AND, AND I HAVE TO GET THE, AND I, I ALLOWED OTHER PEOPLE TO, I EXTENDED AND I HAVE TO GET THE VOTE, MA'AM.

AND THEN I WILL LET YOU.

RIGHT.

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS IT.

CAN I ALL IN FAVOR FIRST I MADE THE MOTION.

YES.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THANK YOU.

SO IN 2007, THE GRANT WAS USED IN 2009, TDO PLANTED THE TREES AND THE L LANDSCAPING AT THE NEW CITY HALL COMPLEX.

2011 TDOT BUILT AND INSTALLED THE DICKINSON SIGN AT GUM BAYOU AND STREET TREES FRONTING MOUNT CARMEL BAPTIST CHURCH IN MOORE'S EDITION ALONG FIVE 17 AT PAUL HOPKINS PARK IN THE FRONT OF ZIEGLER'S THAT ARE NO LONGER THERE IN 20 15, 20 19, 20 23, THE AWARDS HAVE NOT BEEN ACCESSED AS WE ARE

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WAITING TO COMBINE THEM FOR A LANDSCAPE PROJECT TO BEAUTIFY THE I 45 AND FM FIVE 17.

WHEN CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETED, THE CITY WILL OF COURSE BE SHOWN THE PLANS, HAVE COMMENTS AND APPROVE THAT PLAN.

BEFORE WE COMMENCE WITH CONSTRUCTION.

IN 2012, WE WERE AWARDED AN SEP GRANT FROM THE TCEQ FOR $54,479 TO DO A BIO CLEANUP IN DE SNAGGING.

THE BUDGET WENT OVER BY $10,000.

I REACHED OUT FOR ASSISTANCE FROM THE GALVESTON COUNTY, DD ONE AND DD TWO WITHOUT SUCCESS, AND THE MANAGEMENT DISTRICT STEPPED UP TO RECOVER TO COVER THE REMAINING COST.

WE RECEIVED $25,000 GRANT FROM DOW TO ASK AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE COUNTY PUTTING THE PLAYGROUND IN PAUL HOPKINS PARK.

WE WERE APPROACHED BY HGAC IN PARTNERING WITH THE CITY.

RECEIVED TWO HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE GRANTS, OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS EACH TO HOST COUNTYWIDE COLLECTION AT THE GULF GREYHOUND PARK.

WE HAVE RECEIVED NUMEROUS SMALLER GRANTS FOR A VARIETY OF PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.

IN PARTNERSHIP WITH HGAC AND THE TEXAS CONSERVATION FUND AND PUBLIC WORKS, WE HOST A HUGE ANNUAL BAYOU AND COMMUNITY CLEANUP THAT HOSTS BETWEEN 100 AND 300 VOLUNTEERS, REMOVING 440,000 POUNDS OF TRASH AND DEBRIS FROM PERSONAL PROPERTY STREET RIGHT AWAY AND DICKINSON BAYOU.

CURRENTLY WE HAVE RECEIVED A $30,000 GRANT TO PUT A HUNDRED TREES BACK IN DICKINSON AND HOST A CELEBRATION OF WHICH YOU ALL ARE INVITED, LOOKING FOR VOLUNTEERS TO HELP PLANT.

WE HOPE SOME OF THESE IN THE AUDIENCE WILL VOLUNTEER TO HELP US PLANT THESE 100 TREES ON NOVEMBER 8TH.

AND ALL ARE WELCOME TO CELEBRATE WITH US AFTER THE PLANTING WITH LUNCH AND MUSIC AT THE DEPOT.

WE STEPPED UP TO ORGANIZE THE CITY'S 200TH ANNIVERSARY WITH HELP FOR MANY OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM.

AND MR. SCHICK ON THE DIOCESE, KDB BOARD MEMBERS, OPTIMIST CLUB MEMBERS LANDSCAPE, THE DEPOT.

ALONG FM FIVE 17, WE INITIATE ADOPT A BOX, ADOPT A STREET, ADOPT A VALUE PROGRAMS, MANY OF WHICH ARE ADOPTED BY LOCAL YOUTHS.

AND A SIDE NOTE, WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR MORE ADOPTEES.

WE PUT THE RAIN GARDEN IN AT THE LIBRARY, WHICH WAS REMOVED LAST YEAR.

WE GOT A GRANT REPLACING A HUGE DEAD OAK TREE AT THE GAZEBO WITH SMILE AND OWL CARVED FROM THE TRUNK OF THE DEAD TREE.

WE PLANTED TWO TREES THERE, LANDSCAPED THE GAZEBO NUMEROUS TIMES THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, WHICH AGAIN, IS IN NEED OF THE SAME THING.

MOST RECENTLY, THE KDB BOARD MEMBERS AND VOLUNTEERS LANDSCAPED THE FRONT ENTRANCE OF THE DEPOT LEADING INTO THE COMMUNITY ROOM AND OFFICES OVER A YEAR AGO.

CITY STAFF TOLD US THAT THERE COULD BE NO MORE RENTALS AT THE DEPOT OR ANYTHING OTHER THAN OUR MEETINGS, UH, DUE TO THE ROTTEN WOOD STAIRS, RAMPS AND HANDRAILS.

SO WE TOOK THE INITIATIVE TO GET THOSE REPAIRS TAKEN CARE OF.

THANKS TO $10,500 IN FUNDING ASSISTANCE FROM THE EDC, WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE THE 11,500 REPAIRS TO THE RAMP STAIRS, HANDRAILS IN THE CEILING IN THE MUSEUM THAT WAS DAMAGE DAMAGED BY THE LEAK FROM THE AC.

SO NOW THE CITY CAN OPEN THE COMMUNITY ROOM AND THE MUSEUM AGAIN TO VISITORS COMMUNITY GROUP MEETINGS AND EVENTS AND RENTALS AND JUSTIFICATION OF ALLOWING LOCAL NONPROFITS TO USE THE FACILITY AND COMMUNITY ROOM AT NO CHARGE AND HOST EVENTS ECONOMICALLY BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY.

FOOD AND BEVERAGES, MUSIC ARE PROVIDED BY LOCAL BUSINESSES AND WHEN NECESSARY, THE DPD IS HIRED AS EXTRA JOB FOR SECURITY.

I HAVE PERSONALLY BEEN CLEANING TOILETS, EMPTYING TRASH CANS, VACUUMING, MOPPING FLOORS, DUSTING AND WIPING SURFACES, AND PULLING, PULLING WEEDS ALONG WITH MY TREASURE.

MARY YOUNG.

THE CITY HAS BEEN SAVING ON HOUSEKEEPING AT THE DEPOT FOR AT LEAST TWO YEARS.

THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT KDB HAS INITIATED IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT THERE ARE MANY, MANY OTHER PROJECTS THAT HAVE HELPED CLEAN AND BEAUTIFY THE CITY OVER THE PAST 38 YEARS.

SO NOW YOU HAVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON KEEP TAKING SOME BEAUTIFUL, LET'S GET TO WHY WE ARE HERE.

THE CITY HAS ANNUALLY REIMBURSED A PORTION OF KDB EXPENSES FOR MANY YEARS, UP TO $7,500 ANNUALLY WITH THE LAST ADMINISTRATION UPPING IT TO 8,500, WHICH HAS BEEN EXTREMELY HELPFUL IN HELPING US DO WHAT WE DO AS WELL AS GENEROUS AND VERY, VERY MUCH APPRECIATED.

IF YOU FEEL THE NEED TO STOP THE EXPENSE REIMBURSEMENT CONTRIBUTION TO OUR EFFORTS, I ASK THAT YOU DO THAT BEFORE HOLDING US RESPONSIBLE FOR RENTING OFFICE SPACE OR PAYING UTILITIES OR INSURANCE OR MAINTENANCE OF THIS PUBLIC FACILITY.

I WANT YOU TO SEE WHAT I SEE THAT MANY IN THIS ROOM TONIGHT.

SEE ALSO THAT THIS FACILITY IS A HUGE ASSET TO THIS COMMUNITY.

NO LESS IMPORTANT THAN THE LIBRARY OR ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT OF THE CITY.

WE GIVE THANKS TO THOSE THAT TOOK THE INITIATIVE, INITIATIVE AND PERSEVERED TO PURSUE THIS PRECIOUS PIECE OF OUR HISTORY THAT MANY, MANY YEARS AGO.

FOR KDB, THE DEPOT IS FOR TOURISM, FOR QUALITY OF LIFE, A PLACE TO MEET AND WORK WITH OUR YOUTH, FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS TOWARD A CLEANER, MORE BEAUTIFUL DICKINSON.

AND TO LEARN TO SHARE, CELEBRATE, AND PRESERVE OUR HISTORY AS GALVESTON COUNTY'S OLDEST MAINLAND SETTLEMENT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND IF I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL

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DO MY BEST.

ABSOLUTELY.

UH, WHO ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS TO GET US STARTED AS AN OPINION OR AN OFFER ABOUT FUNDING? UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT COSTS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR UTILITIES ARE OUT THERE.

UM, LAST YEAR WAS WHAT, 45,000, 40,000? SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE ANNUALLY.

THAT'S WHAT WE, THAT'S WHAT WE HAD EXPEDITE OR TAKEN OUT LAST YEAR OR WAS THAT I'M NOT, I NOT NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.

YEAR'S BUDGET.

I'M SURE MAYOR, I'D HAVE TO LOOK.

OKAY.

I CAN PULL IT UP.

SO MAYOR, I'LL, I'LL START ON THIS.

YEP.

UH, JUST TO PROVIDE SOME CLARITY TO EVERYBODY, NOBODY WANTS TO SHUT DOWN THE DEPOT.

NOBODY WANTS TO KICK ANYONE OUT OF THE DEPOT WHEN IT COMES TO A FACILITY, A CITY FACILITY THAT IS NOT CRITICAL TO THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS OF A CITY.

I AM SEEKING GUIDANCE FROM CITY COUNCIL FOR ITS FUTURE USE AND INVESTMENT.

THAT IS WHAT EVERY CITY EXPECTS OF THEIR CITY MANAGER.

THIS IS A CITY FACILITY.

I'M ASKING FOR GUIDANCE FROM YOU.

MY BOSSES.

I WORK AT THE PLEASURE OF THIS COUNCIL.

MAY, MAY I ASK YOU FOR GO.

YES MA'AM.

PLEASE GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU.

UM, PREVIOUSLY THE EDC OFFICE OUT THERE, AND IT WAS IN THEIR BUDGET THAT THEY MAINTAINED IT AND TOOK CARE OF THE EXPENSES OUT THERE.

TO ME THAT MAKES SENSE THAT IT FALLS UNDER THEIR BUDGET BECAUSE IT IS FOR TOURISM.

IT IS A MUSEUM, IT IS A PLACE TO HOLD EVENTS, WEDDINGS, BRIDAL SHOWERS, BABY SHOWERS.

TO ME THAT FALLS UNDER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE WILL ACTUALLY PAY TO RENT THAT FACILITY.

UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THAT'S JUST, SO WE'RE SAYING MOVE IT TO THE EDC, HAVE THE EDC FUND, IT, THE, THE EXPENSE.

RIGHT? AND THEN Y'ALL'S NONPROFITS WORK OUT OF THERE AT THE EDCS EXPENSE.

IS THAT CORRECT? I MEAN, WE DON'T WORK OUT THERE AT THEIR EXPENSE.

THEY COVER THE UTILITIES SO WELL THAT, THAT'S AN EXPENSE.

SO THEREFORE WE PAY THE EXPENSE SO Y'ALL CAN OPERATE OUT OF THERE.

CORRECT.

SO, BUT WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE TO OPERATE OUT OF THERE.

OKAY.

WE DO IT ALSO TO MAN THE FACILITY.

SO IT'S NOT SITTING THERE VACANT AND YOU KNOW, SO THE QUESTION I HAVE IS, SO YOU, YOU TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF GRANTS, EXCUSE AGAIN, ME, I AM A HUNDRED PERCENT ALL FOR THE DEPOT.

I WENT THERE TODAY, WENT AND WENT ALL THROUGH THE, THE ALL THE FACILITIES.

MY QUESTION FOR EVERYTHING IS, UM, WE, HOW CAN WE JUSTIFY ALLOWING NON-PROFITS TO WORK FOR FREE? RIGHT? SO ONCE AGAIN, WE DON'T, WE DON'T CHARGE YOU RENT.

I WOULDN'T CONSIDER 1.5 MILLION FOR FREE.

SO WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS HOW MUCH OF THAT WENT TO THE CITY AND THEN HOW MUCH WENT TO THE TREES? AND DON'T GET ME WRONG, I BELIEVE IN THE, THE THINGS OF THE GRANTS.

BUT IF THAT'S MONEY TO GO TO PLANT TREES, THAT IS NOT A, A, A MONETARY BENEFIT TO THE CITY BY ANY WAY.

RIGHT.

SO THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BENEFIT.

THERE'S, THERE'S MULTIPLE TYPES.

ONCE AGAIN, LET ME, LEMME CLEAR THIS UP.

THERE'S DIFFERENT TYPES OF BENEFIT.

THERE'S MONETARY, WHICH IS MONEY.

THEN THERE IS ALSO THE OTHER SIDE OF IT, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT OUR HISTORICAL ROOTS, THE, THE, THE, UM, NATURE MAKING SURE WE CONTROL THE HABITAT SO OUR, OUR LITTLE CRITTERS DON'T DIE.

I GET THAT.

I A HUNDRED PERCENT GET THAT.

WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS THERE IS MULTIPLE NONPROFITS HERE RIGHT.

THAT WOULD LOVE TO USE OUR FACILITIES.

AND THEN WE ALSO NEED AN A SA AGREEMENT THAT SAYS THIS IS WHAT Y'ALL ARE OBLIGATED TO DO.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE OBLIGATED TO DO.

RIGHT.

SO FOR INSTANCE, TXDOT ROADS, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S NOT OUR ROAD, WE STILL HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE MAINTENANCE OF IT, RIGHT.

BECAUSE WE'RE ABLE TO USE THEIR ROAD.

ABSOLUTELY.

SO THE SAME THING IS WOULDN'T A NONPROFIT THAT IS USING THE FACILITY AND UTILIZING THE POWER, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE NOT THERE, THE POWER DOESN'T EXIST.

ONCE AGAIN, I AM JUST PLAYING DEVIL'S ADVOCATE TO ASK QUESTIONS BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE RECORDED.

SO EVERYONE KNOWS WE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS.

I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO THINK THAT I'M HERE TRYING TO KICK YOU GUYS OUT.

I HAVE AN IDEA THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MEET WITH YOU GUYS AT SOME POINT ON HOW TO MONETIZE IT TO FIT THAT BILL.

HOWEVER, IT WOULD COEXIST WITH YOU GUYS BEING THERE AND THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE AN A SA AGREEMENT SO THAT WE KNOW WHOSE OBLIGATIONS ARE WHAT.

RIGHT? SO TO HELP PAY FOR THAT BILL SO WE CAN JUSTIFY YOU GUYS HELPING US OUT AT THAT FACILITY.

RIGHT NOW, THIS IS A 40 TO $50,000 DETRIMENT TO OUR CITY.

WHEN EVERYONE'S COMPLAINING ABOUT OUR ROADS IN OUR DITCHES, THEY'RE GONNA BE A, IT'S GONNA BE A REALLY HARD THING FOR US AT THIS COUNCIL RIGHT? TO SAY, LET'S THROW $50,000 AT THIS.

ONCE AGAIN, NOT MY BELIEFS.

WHAT PEOPLE ARE TELLING ME THAT THAT'S AN ISSUE WHEN WE COULD USE THAT MONEY FOR SOMETHING ELSE,

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IS, WHAT DO I TELL THEM? THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.

I'M ASKING HELP.

HOW DO I TELL THEM THAT THIS IS VALUABLE? RATHER THAN JUST SAYING, YOU GOTTA BELIEVE ME.

IT'S VALUABLE.

IF THE CITY HAD SOMEONE THAT WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR RENTING OUT THE FACILITY, YOU'VE, YOU'VE GENERATED AN INCOME NOW.

MM-HMM .

I DON'T, I CAN'T EVEN GUESSTIMATE WHAT, WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

I KNOW THEY RENTED IT OUT IN THE PAST AND MADE A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY.

POSSIBLY.

PROBABLY.

SO THAT'S, I I BUILT A SMALL BUSINESS PROPOSAL FOR IT AND HAVE THE REVENUE PROJECTIONS AND ALL THAT.

SO, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE KIND OF WANTING TO DISCUSS, AND I WANT EVERYONE TO HEAR THAT IS WE ARE TRYING TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO SOMEHOW MONETIZE IT, TO BREAK EVEN WITH IT.

RIGHT.

BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW BY JUST THROWING MONEY AT IT IS, IS IT'S A, A HORRIBLE DECISION TO DO ON THE BUSINESS SIDE OF IT.

ONCE AGAIN, DIFFERENT SITUATION.

I'LL GO BACK TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT TREES BEAUTIFICATION, THE CLEANLINESS OF THE CITY DOES CONTRIBUTE TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

MAYOR, MAY I CONTINUE? YEP, GO AHEAD.

OKAY.

SO, UH, FOR CONTEXT, THE LIBRARY'S HVAC SYSTEM FAILED AT THE SAME TIME AS THE HVAC SYSTEM AT THE DEPOT.

SO, YOU KNOW, AS YOU RECALL DURING THE PREVIOUS BUDGET DISCUSSIONS, WE MADE SIGNIFICANT CUTS TO OUR BUDGET.

OBVIOUSLY I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THESE CONSTRAINTS, IT WOULD BE FOOLISH OF ME TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE REPAIRS WITHOUT CLEAR DIRECTION FROM MY BOSSES.

I'M NOT TRYING TO HURT ANYBODY'S FEELINGS, KICK ANYONE OUT.

I'M TRYING TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE CITY AND BY MY BOSSES.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

YES, SIR.

UM, WITH WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED, TRAVIS, GIVEN THE CURRENT KIND OF DILAPIDATED CONDITION, WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO BRING THAT BUILDING TO CODE TO MAKE IT RENTABLE? I, DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN IDEA? I'VE BEEN ASKING IF YOU GOT IT, PLEASE.

YEP.

THE BILLING ISN'T AS IN BAD SHAPE AS EVERYBODY BELIEVES IT IS.

THE, THE, UH, REPAIR WAS MADE TO THE CEILINGS IN THE MUSEUM, BUT FROM THE AC LEAK, UM, IT, THE COMMUNITY ROOM IS FINE.

IT, IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN FINE.

WE DIDN'T, WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING TO IT.

IT'S FINE NOW.

THE RAMPS AND HANDRAILS, EVERYTHING'S BEEN REPAIRED.

MY ONLY, UH, TWO ISSUES THAT I STILL SEE IS THE BUILDING WOULD PROBABLY BE POWER WASHED OR SOMETHING.

BUT THE, IT'S SETTLING IN THE WEST CORNER OF THE WEST SIDE OF THE MUSEUM.

SO THE DOORS, UM, DON'T SHUT.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY SETTLING? SINKING THE FOUNDATION OR THE CORNER OF THE BUILDING.

AND I, I, I HAVEN'T NEVER LOOKED UNDER THERE.

'CAUSE THERE'S THIS BRICK FACADE THERE.

I THINK IT MIGHT BE ON PIERS, SO I THINK IT COULD BE LIFTED.

UM, AND THEN THE APPEARANCE OF THE MUSEUM DOORS, THE PAINT IS CRACKLING AND PEELING OFF.

OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S FINE.

UH, BY THE WAY, THE A HUNDRED TREES I'M PLANTING AND THE CELEBRATION ON NOVEMBER 8TH, UNLESS YOU TELL ME I CAN'T HAVE IT OUT THERE.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CELEBRATION OUT THERE.

THE PUBLIC HAS INVITED ALL THE PEOPLE THAT PARTICIPATE, THEY GET LUNCH AND LIVE MUSIC.

I WOULDN'T LET THEM IN IF IT WAS NOT SAFE.

THE STAIR STAIRCASES, ALL THAT, ALL THAT'S BEEN REPAIRED, THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES ARE FINE.

UH, SAFE.

SO THE, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE RUMOR THAT IT WAS CONDEMNED GOT OUT, BUT IT'S NEVER BEEN.

SO, LIKE I SAID, I WALKED THROUGH THE WHOLE THING TODAY.

I DID NOT SEE A WHOLE LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH IT.

MINE IS NOT THE BUILDING ITSELF.

MINE IS JUST, WE GOTTA FIGURE OUT A PLAN SO THAT WE AREN'T JUST THROWING MONEY, LIKE THROWING THE EDC MONEY AND Y'ALL'S MONEY DOWN THE DRAIN WITHOUT A, A LONG TERM SUSTAINABLE PLAN.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WITH AND THE, THE REPAIRS I MENTIONED, I DID APPLY FOR A GRANT TO EVEN DO THE YEP.

I ALWAYS TRY TO APPLY FOR A GRANT BEFORE I EVER COME TO THE CITY OR THE EDC OR THE MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.

CHASE, UH, MR K, YOU GOT ANY MORE TO GO AS WELL? I KNOW I KEEP LOOKING.

NO, I JUST HAVE ONE LAST SENTENCE.

YEP.

UH, , I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO MAKE THE N NECESSARY REPAIRS TO THIS DEPOT, BUT AT THE COUNCIL'S DISCRETION, THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU.

THANK.

PERFECT.

ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ANY COMMENTS? YES, I FIGURE WE GOT PLENTY OF THEM.

EXCELLENT.

UH, UH, MISS DUNBAR, COME ON UP.

MS. DUNBAR IS TURNING BLUE.

.

YOU'RE GOOD.

SORRY.

I I HOW MANY MORE PEOPLE SIGNED TO SPEAK? THAT'S IT.

THAT'S IT.

WE'RE DONE THE TEST THERE FOR NINE YEARS AND I APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICES.

UM, I WANTED TO TELL YOU WHERE WE SAVED YOU MONEY.

IF WE WEREN'T IN THAT BUILDING

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EVERY DAY FOR FOUR HOURS, TAKING PHONE CALLS AND WELCOMING PEOPLE.

THEY DO COME, MAYBE NOT ALL AT ONCE.

VISITORS COME.

IT, IT WAS MEANT TO BE A VISITOR CENTER OR WELCOME CENTER.

UH, IF THE CITY HAD TO PUT A PERSON, AN EMPLOYEE OUT THERE, A MARKETING PERSON WITH MM-HMM .

EXPERTISE AND HOW TO MARKET HER CITY, IT WOULD COST YOU AN AN EMPLOYMENT SALARY OF OVER $90,000 A YEAR.

SO YOU HAVE SAVED THAT MUCH MONEY FOR THE TIME WE HAVE BEEN THERE AND WE HAVE PAID A PART-TIME VOLUNTEER MONEY TO SIT THERE AND DO THAT FOR THE CITY.

'CAUSE YOU KNOW, IT'S OUR HISTORY AND WE LOVE IT AND HISTORY TELLS THE STORY.

WE DON'T WANT OUR STORY TO BE THAT.

UH, WELL WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THIS ANYMORE.

WE DO KNOW HOW TO DO THIS.

AND I THINK, LIKE YOU SAY, IF WE CAN SIT DOWN AND, AND DISCUSS HOW WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT COME OUT, I THINK WE CAN CERTAINLY COME TO AN AGREEMENT OF SOME SORT AND I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

ABSOLUTELY.

SO, AND ALL I ASK, UM, WITH THE FUTURE CONVERSATION, JUST ON MY, ON MY BEHALF, RIGHT? I CAN ONLY TALK FOR MYSELF, IS PLEASE JUST KEEP AN OPEN MIND IS ALL I'M ASKING.

UM, I COME FROM A WORLD OF, OF FINANCE, SO I THINK A VERY CERTAIN WAY TO, WHEREAS THIS IS WHY I VALUE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE COME UP AND TALKED BECAUSE YOU THINK VERY DIFFERENTLY THAN ME.

SO I'M NOT, I I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND.

I CAN'T, I DON'T, I CAN'T THINK LIKE THAT.

RIGHT? SO I APPRECIATE YOUR OPINIONS.

WHAT OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE COMMENTS ABOUT THIS? YES, MAYOR.

OH, GO AHEAD.

GO.

I JUST WANT CLARIFICATION.

THERE IS NO ROOF FOR THAT SUGGEST CONDEMNATION OF THIS BUILDING.

NO, SIR.

ALRIGHT.

AND IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU CAN HAVE SOMEBODY PUT TOGETHER A, UH, COST TO ACTUALLY, UH, MAKE THE NECESSARY REPAIRS TO, UM, REPAIR THE BUILDING, TO MAKE THE REPAIRS TO THE BUILDING SO THAT COUNSEL CAN MAKE EDUCATED DECISIONS ON WHERE TO APPLY THOSE DOLLARS? I, YES SIR.

THE AC STILL OUT OVER THERE, CORRECT? IT'S AROUND 13,000 I BELIEVE.

MR. MAGNO? YES, SIR.

CAN I, CAN I ALSO MAKE A A, A RECOMMENDATION ALONG WITH THAT? IT'S GONNA COST MONEY TO HAVE THAT DONE, OF COURSE.

BUT I WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND THE REASON WHY WE, UH, WE SPEND MONEY INSTEAD OF JUST HAVING OUR FACILITIES GUYS LOOK AT IT AND GIVE IT A, WELL, IF THIS WAS MY HOME, THIS IS WHAT I WOULD DO IS THAT THERE'S SOME FOUNDATION ISSUES.

PART OF THE REASON WE HAD TO REPLACE ALL THAT WOOD OUT THERE IS IT'S SITTING AND STANDING WATER.

AND SO, UH, WE, WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA FIX THE DRAINAGE ISSUES UNDERNEATH THAT FACILITY AS WELL.

SO THERE'S SOME, IT'S A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED THAN JUST THROWING NEW WOOD ON IT.

THE NEW WOOD LOOKS PRETTY AND I'M GLAD IT'S THERE AND I'M GLAD NO ONE'S GONNA FALL THROUGH, BUT THEY PROBABLY WILL IN FIVE YEARS AND THAT WOULDN'T BE THE BEST UTILIZATION OF THE MONEY THAT SHE'S PUT INTO IT.

SO, OKAY, GO AHEAD.

SO THAT'S GONNA COST SOME MONEY.

SO THE ANSWER IS YES, WE CAN DO THAT, BUT IT'S GONNA COST SOME MONEY TO GET THAT ESTIMATE TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA COST TO REPAIR.

WOULD IT BE ACCEPTABLE TO PUT MANY SPLITS IN THOSE BUILDINGS? IT WOULD.

I, I'VE ABSOLUTELY LOOKED INTO THAT.

I'VE HAD THAT SUGGESTED TO ME A FEW TIMES AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WE HAVEN'T PULLED THE TRIGGER ON THE AIR CONDITIONER.

IT'S JUST ONE OF MANY FACTORS WHY WE HAVEN'T THROWN ANY MONEY AT IT RIGHT NOW.

ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY.

COUNCIL MEMBER SHAKE, I KNOW YOU GOT, FIRST OF ALL, LET ME, UH, LET ME MAKE SURE THAT THESE GROUPS THAT ARE OCCUPY THE BUILDING RIGHT NOW, Y'ALL DO HAVE VALUE TO THE CITY AND, UH, APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK TO GET US TO THIS POINT AND WE'RE GONNA FIGURE OUT HOW TO, UH, SAVE THE BUILDING AND IMPROVE IT AND MAKE IT A COMMUNITY, UH, FOCAL POINT AGAIN, LIKE IT DESERVES TO BE.

AND WE MAY ALL HAVE TO MEET AND HASH THIS THING OUT.

I KNOW WE HAVE SOME HOT TAX MONEY, WHICH IS PERFECT FOR THIS SORT OF THING.

IT TO INCREASE TOURISM.

THE EDC COULD PROBABLY CONTRIBUTE A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE WILL FIND A WAY TO FIX IT UP AND MAKE IT SOMETHING WE'RE PROUD OF, OF AGAIN.

ALRIGHT, ANYONE ELSE? YOU SIR? YEAH, I WAS, I WAS JUST CURIOUS.

UM, LIKE THE, THE AGENDA ITEM SAYS ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICE AGREEMENT AND MY UNDERSTANDING OF ASAS ARE LEASE AGREEMENT.

IT NEEDS TO BE A LEASE AGREEMENT.

OKAY.

YEAH, BECAUSE I, I WAS GONNA SAY THE, THE ASAS I KNOW ABOUT OUR MANAGEMENT DISTRICT YEAH.

WITH THE CITY AND EDC AND THAT'S WHERE THEY, IT, IT MAY SAY ASS A 'CAUSE I MENTIONED THAT IN A PREVIOUS MEETING BY LEGAL TERMS, I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT LEASE AGREEMENT.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

BUT OKAY.

THAT, THAT, THAT'S HELPFUL.

I WAS JUST, I WAS CURIOUS WHEN I SAW

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THAT, 'CAUSE I DIDN'T, FROM MY LAST TIME WE VOTED ON A SA, THERE WAS SOME TERMS, I'M THINKING ABOUT THIS MUCH TO PAY FOR THE LAWYER AND STAFF AND ET CETERA.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN, IF WE'RE LEGALLY ALLOWED TO IS THAT THIS COUNSEL, UH, BASICALLY INSTRUCTS UH, THE STAFF TO ACTUALLY GO OUT, GET A QUOTE FOR THE LEGITIMATE, UM, COST OF REPAIRS.

COST OF REPAIRS, NOT, NOT PATCHES.

HOW DO WE GET THIS TO FULLY FUNCTIONING? I CAN ACTUALLY MONETIZE THIS THING.

THAT'S THE DOLLAR THAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW.

UM, SO IF WE COULD, UH, I MEAN I WOULD LIKE TO, I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT.

I CAN'T OBVIOUSLY MOTION FOR THAT, BUT YEAH, WE DON'T NEED A MOTION FOR THAT.

OKAY.

WE DON'T NEED A MOTION.

SHOULD WE? WE CAN ALL AGREE.

I DO HAVE ONE QUICK, HOW MUCH ARE WE, HOW MUCH ARE WE LEASING IT OUT FOR? MEETINGS AND STUFF TO USE THE MEETING ROOM.

SO THEY HAVE NOT, THEY HAVEN'T DONE IT A WHILE.

THE PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER STOPPED THAT.

SO DOES ANYONE HERE THAT'S STILL ON STAFF KNOW? I, UH, HOLD ON.

I, I HAVE THE NUMBER.

I LOOKED IT UP TODAY.

IT'S STILL ON OUR WEBSITE.

UM, YOU JUST HAVE TO SEARCH FOR IT A CERTAIN WAY.

I WAS DOING SOME RESEARCH TODAY ON IT.

IF I HAD SERVICE.

MAYOR, DO YOU MIND IF I MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THIS? I, I, GO AHEAD.

I FILLED A PROBABLY 20 TO 30 PHONE CALLS AND HAVE BEEN THE BEARER OF BAD NEWS, AND UNFORTUNATELY MY NAME'S ATTACHED TO THAT.

AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT I GET MY, UH, POSITION IN THIS, UM, KIND OF ON THE RECORD AND JUST WANNA LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT I WAS HIRED, UM, BY YOU GUYS TO PROVIDE ADMINISTRATIVE AND OPERATIONAL SUPPORT FOR THE CITY MANAGER AND HIS ROLE IN MY POSITION, AND ULTIMATELY FOR OUR CITIZENS.

AND, UH, AS SUCH, THE CURRENT BUDGET AND THE FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY IS ONE OF SIGNIFICANT IMPORTANCE AND SOMETHING THAT FALLS ON MY SHOULDERS AS WELL.

AND SO I COULD NOT IN GOOD FAITH, RECOMMEND ANY MORE EXPENDITURES AFTER SEEING HOW MUCH MONEY IS BEING SPENT ON THAT PLACE WITHOUT ANY GUIDANCE FROM THIS BODY AND FROM OUR CITIZENS ALIKE.

YES, I AGREE THAT THE DEPOT'S A NICE PLACE.

YES, I AGREE THAT THESE GROUPS HAVE DONE A LOT OF GOOD THINGS FOR OUR CITY, BUT THAT DOESN'T ANSWER THE OTHER 22,000 PEOPLE IN THE POPULATION THAT WOULD ASK ME WHY I'M SPENDING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON THAT PARTICULAR FACILITY.

SO I COULDN'T RECOMMEND ANY MORE MONEY.

AND I THINK IT'S FAIR THAT WE BRING THAT UP AND TALK ABOUT IT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANNA SAY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS 'CAUSE WE KNOW WHAT THE COST IS.

I DO.

I I THINK I, I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT THERE'S A RECORD THAT WOULD, WOULD SHOW THAT THERE'S BEEN THAT MUCH MONEY SPENT ON THIS AND, AND UNFORTUNATELY THE, THE $1.5 MILLION, I'M JUST DOING SOME QUICK MATH OVER 35 YEARS IS WHAT, $45,000 A YEAR.

AND SO I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT THAT'S BAD.

I'M JUST THINKING WE NEED TO DO BETTER THAN THAT OR COME UP WITH A BETTER PLAN TO MONETIZE IT OR FIGURE OUT HOW TO, HOW, HOW TO CREATE SOME REVENUE OR SOME SUPPORT FOR IT.

THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU, MATT.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YEAH, I'VE GOT ONE THING.

I MEAN, WE'VE GOT TO LOOK THE FINANCES, I UNDERSTAND THAT AND, AND I LOVE THE RAILROADS DEPOTS, BUT MAYBE IT'S TIME WE LOOKED AT RESTORING IT WITH SOME DIFFERENT MATERIALS ON THE OUTSIDE.

I WALKED OVER THERE THE OTHER DAY AFTER THE REPAIRS WERE DONE.

AND I LOOK AT SOME OF THE WOOD, AND YOU CAN STICK A PENCIL RIGHT THROUGH SOME OF THAT WOOD THERE.

AND, AND I KNOW THE DRAINAGE IS AN ISSUE, BUT, YOU KNOW, OUR JOB RIGHT NOW IS TO SEE WHAT IT'S GONNA COST.

AND NOT ONLY NOW, BUT IN THE YEARS GOING FORWARD.

AND, AND MAYBE IT'S TIME TO STRIP IT ALL OFF AND PUT HARDNEY ON THERE, PUT INSULATION.

I DON'T KNOW.

I KNOW THE, UH, THE AC AND HEATING IS HORRIBLE IN THERE.

WINTERTIME, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA FREEZE IN THERE AND SUMMERTIME YOU'RE GONNA BURN UP.

'CAUSE I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY INSULATION IN THERE AT ALL.

CORRECT.

I MEAN, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL THAT.

AND, AND I'M SORRY.

YEAH, I WANNA RESTORE EVERYTHING WE CAN TOO, BUT, UH, MAYBE WE NEED TO TAKE A DIFFERENT APPROACH AND, AND HAVE SOMEBODY WHO KNOWS ABOUT THOSE BUILDINGS AND WHAT CAN BE DONE WITH IT, WHERE WE CAN MAKE A REPAIR THAT'S GONNA LAST 30 OR 40 YEARS INSTEAD OF HAVING THAT ROTTEN WOOD ALL THE TIME UP THERE.

I DON'T KNOW.

SO AND SO TEXT STANDARDS HAD TO BE JUST, JUST THE WAY IT WAS.

SO THEY WON'T LET YOU, THAT'S GONE NOW.

I THINK.

SO HERE'S, HERE'S SOME, UH, FEE SCHEDULES.

SO, UH, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, THREE HOUR EVENTS, $150, UH, PER EVENT DURING THE WEEKEND IS 500 FOR THE DICKINSON DEPOT.

SO THEY, THEY USED TO DO PRETTY WELL, I GUESS.

I MEAN, THOSE ARE PROBABLY OLDER NUMBERS, BUT WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS, IS WE CAN GET BACK TO THIS.

WE JUST HAVE TO SEE WHAT THE REAL NUMBERS ARE.

SO THE SAME THING.

WE CAN, UH, UH, SOMEWHAT HAVE A DECENT, ONCE AGAIN, ROI, I KNOW I TALK ABOUT RETURN ON INVESTMENT A LOT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT.

UM, BECAUSE THIS IS ALSO COMMUNITY MONEY, RIGHT? SO THIS IS NOT JUST MINE IS THIS IS EVERY TAXPAYER THAT SITS HERE IN THIS CITY.

UM, SO I'M GLAD WE'RE AT LEAST HAVING THE RIGHT CONVERSATIONS SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND.

'CAUSE ONCE AGAIN, I'VE LIVED HERE MY WHOLE LIFE EXCEPT FOR THE EIGHT YEARS I WAS GONE AND YESTERDAY WAS THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER BEEN IN THERE.

SO, UM, SHAME ON YOU, .

WELL, WELL, SO HERE'S, HERE'S MY QUESTION IS, IS

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WHY IS THAT SHAME ON ME.

I MEAN, NO, I MEAN THAT'S A, THAT'S A VALID QUESTION THOUGH, RIGHT? SO THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM IS, YOU KNOW, I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 30 YEARS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M ALMOST 38 NOW.

UM, SO, AND I'VE NEVER BEEN THERE BECAUSE I'VE NEVER BEEN ATTRACTED TO GO THERE.

SO REMEMBER, WHEN WE HAVE A BUSINESS, BUSINESS DON'T, DON'T, AREN'T SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE THEY HAVE A GOOD IDEA, IT'S BECAUSE THEY'VE ATTRACTED SOMEONE TO COME AND BUY IT.

SO IF YOU HAVE AN ATTRACTION, WHICH WE DO HAVE A BEAUTIFUL ATTRACTION, WE HAVE TO FIND TO GET MORE FOOT TRAFFIC THERE IS WHAT I'M GETTING AT.

BECAUSE WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING IS JUST NOT IT.

SO IF WE HAVE A GOOD PRODUCT AND IT'S WELL THOUGHT OUT, THEN PEOPLE WILL COME.

RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST, I I THINK THAT'S A BETTER QUESTION TO ANSWER, RIGHT? IS WHY HAVE I NOT GONE? THAT'S FINE.

YOU HAVE A MARKETING PERSON.

NO, AND, AND, UM, I AGREE WITH YOU.

I, I'M, I'M SAYING THAT THAT'S, THAT'S THE, UH, HIGHLIGHT OF THE ISSUE, RIGHT? SO, UM, ALRIGHT, SO CAN WE, DOES EVERYONE, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS ON COUNCIL FOR ANYONE TO, SO THAT WE DON'T FEEL BAD? TRAVIS, I GREW UP HERE TOO AND NEVER STEPPED FOOT IN THERE UNTIL I WORKED HERE.

SO YOU'RE GOOD, .

THANK YOU.

YES.

I HAVE QUESTIONS.

NO, SAY MORE ABOUT US THAN OTHER PEOPLE.

YEAH.

BUT, BUT ALRIGHT.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, IF, UH, EVERYONE'S GOODMAN COUNCILMAN HOLT HAD A YEP.

COUNCILMAN HOLT, LET'S GO.

I WAS JUST, I SAID I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE QUESTIONS.

I I'M JUST KIDDING.

.

YEAH, WE DON'T NEED A MOTION.

ALRIGHT.

WE DON'T NEED A MOTION.

LET'S MOVE ON TO THE, UH, NEXT SUBJECT.

I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR THEIR INPUT.

THIS IS WHAT I WILL ALWAYS ENCOURAGE IS HEAR SOMEONE ELSE'S THOUGHTS, UM, TO HELP GUIDE US.

UH, ALL

[7.A RESOLUTION XXX-2025 - Consideration and possible action to approve a Resolution of the City of Dickinson, Texas, granting Gonzalez Arnold J & Crystal, an extension of ninety (90) days for the temporary use permit issued by the City of Dickinson authorizing disaster-related temporary housing on a 0.32 acre tract of land located at 3708 Misty Cove Ct. (Community Development)]

RIGHT, NEXT UP WE HAVE SEVEN A CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF DICKINSON, TEXAS GRANTING GONZALEZ ARNOLD J AND CRYSTAL, AN EXTENSION OF 90 DAYS FOR THE TEMPORARY USE PERMIT ISSUED BY THE CITY OF DICKINSON AUTHORIZED AUTHORIZING DISASTER RELATED TEMPORARY HOUSING ON A 0.32 ACRE TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 3 7 0 8 MISTY COVE COURT.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE.

GOT A MOTION? DO I GOT A SECOND? SECOND.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, WHAT YOU GOT FOR US? YES.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

SO THIS, UH, IS IN REFERENCE TO A SECTION FROM THE UDC THAT ALLOWS RVS TO BE USED AS DISASTER RELATED TEMPORARY HOUSING.

UH, IT ALLOWS ADMINISTRATIVELY TO APPROVE A 90 DAY TEMPORARY USE PERMIT.

UH, WHICH STAFF HAS DONE, UH, THE APPLICANT, UH, IN THIS CASE, SHE HAS REQUESTED AN EXTENSION, UH, OF THAT.

AND SO THE UDC ALLOWS AN EXTENSION OF UP TO 90 DAYS TO BE GRANTED BY A CITY COUNCIL AFTER THE INITIAL 90 DAYS HAS EXPIRED.

IS THIS THE PROPERTY IN BRIAR GLEN THAT GOT HIT BY THE TORNADO? YES.

AT THE CUL-DE-SAC DOWN THERE AT, AT THE END CO.

YEAH.

OKAY.

MISTY COVE? YES, SIR.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL, UH, TRAVIS? HAS THERE BEEN ANY SUBSTANTIAL PROGRESS? UH, SO I DID RECEIVE A PERMIT APPLICATION FOR THIS ADDRESS, HOWEVER, IT WAS INCOMPLETE.

UH, I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE THOSE, UH, ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTS.

I BELIEVE THEY'RE WAITING ON ENGINEERED DRAWINGS TO BE COMPLETED AT THIS TIME.

OKAY.

SOUNDS GOOD.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I, I DO BELIEVE THAT, UH, THE HOMEOWNER IS HERE IF Y'ALL HAVE QUESTIONS FOR HER.

OKAY.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO.

ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE HOMEOWNER OR CAN WE VOTE ON THIS THING? CRYSTAL, WHAT'S YOUR REALISTIC, WE ALREADY GRANTED IT.

OKAY, GO AHEAD.

WHAT, WHAT'S YOUR REALISTIC TIMELINE OF BEING ABLE TO INITIATE CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY SO THAT YOU CAN START MOVING FORWARD? SO, AND GETTING RESOLUTION, AND THEN HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT'LL REALLY TAKE YOU? SO, AFTER I SPOKE AT THE LAST MEETING ABOUT THE DIFFICULTIES IN OBTAINING THE RESIDENTIAL PERMIT, WE ACTUALLY HIRED A CONTRACTOR WHO TRIED FOR EIGHT WEEKS TO GET A PERMIT.

UM, HE COULD NOT GET, UM, HE TOLD US THAT HE HAD FILLED OUT THE PAPERWORK TO BECOME A CONTRACTOR FOR THE CITY OF DICKINSON.

THEY SAID HIS NAME WAS SIMILAR TO ANOTHER CONTRACTOR, SO IT HAD TO BE AN INVESTIGATION TO MAKE SURE HE WAS A LIT CON, LEGIT CONTRACTOR.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TRUE THAT IS.

THAT'S JUST WHAT HE TOLD ME.

UM, HE SAID AFTER EIGHT WEEKS WITH NOT BEING ABLE TO GET ANYTHING, HE JUST, HE WALKED AWAY.

HE DIDN'T WANNA DEAL WITH IT ANYMORE.

AT THAT TIME.

WE FILLED OUT THE PERMIT, WE WERE TOLD WE COULD PULL THE PERMIT, UM, WHICH WE DID.

WE WERE TOLD AT THAT TIME, A FEW DAYS LATER THAT WE WOULD NEED STRUCTURAL ENGINEER DRAWINGS.

SO WE APPLIED FOR THOSE.

UH, THIS THURSDAY WILL BE THREE WEEKS.

THEY SAID IT COULD TAKE FOUR TO SIX WEEKS, SO WE SHOULD HAVE THOSE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

WE'VE HIRED MIKE WITH BILL, MARK CONSTRUCTION AND HE SAID ONCE HE HAS THOSE DRAWINGS, HE CAN HAVE ALL THE OTHER REQUIRED PAPERWORK AND HE COULD IMMEDIATELY START WORK ONCE THE PERMIT WAS APPROVED.

TRAVIS,

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CAN YOU ADD SOME CONTEXT TO OR CLARIFICATION TO SOME OF THAT? UH, I CAN SPEAK TO WHAT I KNOW AND, UH, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I HAVE NOT SPOKEN WITH A CONTRACTOR THAT WAS ATTEMPTING TO GET A PERMIT.

UH, MY INITIAL CONVERSATION WAS THAT WE NEEDED A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER'S EVALUATION OF THIS PROPERTY, AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS BEEN DONE.

HOWEVER, I HAVE NOT SEEN THE REPORT.

I JUST SIMPLY TALKED TO THE ENGINEER THAT DID THE REPORT.

I EMAILED YOU THOSE, NOT THE ENGINEERING REPORT.

OKAY.

I GUESS QUICK QUESTION.

NO.

SO, YEAH, LET, SO HERE, HOW ABOUT THIS? UM, SO WITH THIS ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSED.

SO YOU GOT THE 90 DAYS, YOU BE JUST FINE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

SUPER EASY.

UH, ALL RIGHT.

SEVEN C.

SO SEVEN

[7.C Consideration and possible action to proclaim April 2026 as Fair Housing Month. (Administration)]

B GOT PULLED, SEVEN C CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO PROCLAIM APRIL, 2026 AS FAIR HOUSING MONTH MOVE TO APPROVE.

THANK I.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

UH, SEVEN D

[7.D Consideration and possible action to reschedule or cancel the City Council meeting on Oct 28th. (Admin)]

CONSIDERATION, POSSIBLE ACTION TO RESCHEDULE OR CANCEL THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON OCTOBER 28TH.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOTION APPROVE.

ALL RIGHT.

ARE WE GOING CANCEL OR ARE WE, WAIT, WE WANT TO CANCEL.

UH, SO I NEED A SECOND TO TALK ABOUT IT, RIGHT? SO CAN WE, I THOUGHT THE MOTION, WE HAVE TO CANCEL ONE POST UPON THE OTHER.

WE SCHEDULE THE MOTION TO CANCEL SO WE CAN RESCHEDULE.

WE DON'T HAVE TO CANCEL.

UM, IF WE WANTED TO MOVE IT ONE DAY, WE CAN DO IT AS ONE.

NO, LIKE MOVE IT TO THE DATE.

SO CAN WE HAVE A MOTION TO RESCHEDULE THE MEETING FOR OCTOBER X? YEP.

YES.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RESCHEDULE THE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING FOR OCTOBER 27TH AT 7:00 PM THAT THE DAY BEFORE? YES, SIR.

ALRIGHT, THAT'S THE MONDAY BEFORE, UH, TO CLARIFY EVERYONE, IT'S THE MONDAY BEFORE THE, THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, AS WELL AS ALSO YOU SAID IT WAS OCTOBER 27TH, CORRECT? MM-HMM .

THAT'S A MONDAY.

ALL RIGHT.

AND DO I HAVE A SECOND? WE GOT A SECOND.

UM, AND JUST FOR EVERYONE'S CLARIFICATION, THIS IS BECAUSE MANY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITY STAFF WILL BE GOING TO TML, CORRECT.

SO THEY NEED TO BE TRAVELING AND BE ABLE TO BE THERE, I THINK BY WEDNESDAY MORNING.

CORRECT? THE EVENT STARTS WEDNESDAY MORNING STARTS WEDNESDAY.

SO WE'RE GONNA DO IT THAT DAY.

SO WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE THE SO MEETING IN NOVEMBER BECAUSE CORRECT.

IT FALLS ON THE CITY HOLIDAY.

HOW CAN WE DO NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER ALONG WITH THIS? UH, OR DOES IT, CAN, CAN WE, CAN SOMEBODY MAKE A MOTION TO DO NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER AS WELL TO HOST IT? I AGENDA, LET'S, WE'LL HAVE THE OCTOBER DATE TO, WE'LL, WE'LL MOVE IT ON THE OCTOBER ONE.

THAT'S FINE.

ALL ALL, WE'RE DOING IT.

JUST MAKE IT AND CANCEL THE LAST MEETING FOR NOVEMBER, DECEMBER.

SO WE ONLY DO THIS IN ONE VOTE AND NOT HAVE TO DO FIVE OF THAT .

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, IF THAT'S THE CASE, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

70

[7.E Resolution XXX-2025 - Consideration and possible action to approve a Resolution of the City of Dickinson approving assignment of Private Activity Bond Authority to Texas Department of Housing and Community Affairs; and containing other provisions relating to the subject. (Admin)]

CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF DICKINSON APPROVING ASSIGNMENT OF PRIVATE ACTIVITY BOND AUTHORITY TO TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS, AND CONTAINING OTHER PROVISIONS RELATING TO THE SUBJECT.

SO, MS. MAG, YOU THIS ONE, I PUT, I PUT THOSE TWO DOCUMENTS UP THERE AND I APOLOGIZE.

I SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE AGENDA PACKET.

THE ACTUAL READING FOR THE, UM, SPECIFIC LANGUAGE IS IN THERE, UM, IS IN YOUR PACKET.

BUT THESE ARE TWO REFRESHERS ON SETH.

THIS, UH, COUNCIL APPROVED, UM, THE CITY OF DICKINSON PARTICIPATING IN SETH, UH, I THINK IN JULY OR SOMETIME JUNE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IF Y'ALL RECALL.

THIS IS KIND OF A REFRESHER OF WHAT SETH IS.

AND SO, UH, IF YOU JUST WANNA TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR, UH, AT YOUR TWO PAGES THERE.

IT'S ESSENTIALLY, UH, WHAT SETH IS ABOUT.

THAT'S A, UH, PRIVATE HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION.

UM, AND IT'S HELPING LOW TO MODERATE INCOME, UH, UH, FAMILIES OBTAIN, UH, MORTGAGES, ESSENTIALLY.

IT DOES OPEN US UP FOR SOME GRANTS FOR THE CITY, FOR OUR RESIDENTS AS WELL.

UM, I, I THINK TO SPEAK WITH RESPECT TO THE ACTUAL ACTION Y'ALL ARE TAKING, I'D RATHER NIM KIND OF EXPLAIN THAT, WHAT EXACTLY THAT IS THAT WE'RE DOING.

BUT, UH, WE, BUT BECAUSE WE'RE PARTICIPATING IN SETH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THESE COME ACROSS OUR TABLE, UH, YOU KNOW, EVERY OTHER MONTH PROBABLY.

SO ANY ONE OF THE CITIES WITHIN SETH, IF THEY GO OUT FOR BONDS OR THEY RECEIVE FUNDS, THEY HAVE TO NOTIFY ALL OF THE AGENCIES WITHIN THEIR, UH, WITHIN THEIR GROUP.

THEY'RE BASICALLY NOTIFYING US THAT ONE OF THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES WITHIN THEIR GROUP IS GOING OUT FOR A BOND, I BELIEVE, OR, OR SOME TYPE OF FINANCING.

THEY'RE JUST LETTING US KNOW THAT SOMEONE ELSE IS GOING OUT FOR FINANCING.

THEY HAVE TO BY LAW, BASICALLY.

SO, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS.

WE, WE, WE, WE PRESENT IT TO YOU GUYS BECAUSE WE ARE A PARTICIPATING MEMBER OF SETH.

BUT SHOULD YOU CHOOSE, UH, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, NIM, SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO TAKE NO ACTION OR, UH, OR DENY IT? I DON'T THINK IT WOULD HAVE ANY EFFECT.

WELL, COUNSEL HAS THE DISCRETION TO DENY, BUT

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UH, THEY, THEY DO SEEK APPROVAL.

THIS IN NO WAY THAT THE ISSUANCE OF THESE MONTHS IN NO WAY, UM, I GUESS IMPLICATES DICKINSON.

MM-HMM.

YOU KNOW, UH, SO IT'S JUST, UH, AN APPROVAL BECAUSE DICKINSON IS ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THIS ORGANIZATION.

I WAS CONTACTED BY BUDDY OF MINE I USED TO WORK WITH, HE'S APPOINTED TO THE SETH BOARD BY ONE OF THE LOCAL CITIES.

AND HE WAS TELLING ME THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD ANYBODY FROM DICKINSON ON THAT SETH DEAL FOR A COUPLE YEARS.

YEAH.

YES.

UH, Y'ALL ARE SAYING YES.

I'M ASSUMING THAT'S A TRUE STATEMENT.

SO IS THERE A POSITION ON THAT SETH BOARD? YEAH.

THE, THE OR CYNTHIA OF DICKINSON? YES.

THE PREVIOUS MEMBER WAS ACTUALLY ANDREA GREER AND SHE PASSED AWAY.

AND I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE NAMED ANYBODY SINCE THEN.

I ONLY KNOW 'CAUSE SHE WAS A MEMBER OF FAITH.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

SETH REACHED OUT TO US TO PARTICIPATE AGAIN, AND WE GOT THEM ON THE AGENDA AND THEY CAME HERE, MADE A PRESENTATION, AND IT WAS ACCEPTED AS A PARTICIPATING MEMBER.

I DO NOT RECALL THEM ASKING OR HAVE NOT YET RECEIVED ANY KIND OF REQUEST TO PROVIDE A MEMBER OF THE BOARD.

BUT I WILL SEEK CLARIFICATION FOR YOU TOMORROW.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS, YEAH, I DON'T RECALL THAT EITHER.

THEY, EACH CITY THAT'S IN IT HAS A REPRESENTATIVE MM-HMM .

AND HE WAS TELLING ME WE HAVEN'T HAD ONE FOR A COUPLE YEARS.

SO IF WE'RE, THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE.

I'LL SEE CLARIFICATION A REPRESENTATIVE, BUT THEN WE PROBABLY NEED TO PUT SOMEBODY ON THAT BOARD.

SO, COUNCILMAN, UH, AROUND MARCH, APRIL, WHEN RIGHT AFTER, UH, I WAS APPOINTED, THE GENTLEMAN REACHED OUT TO US SAYING, HEY, I WOULD LIKE TO, HE TRYING TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE CITY OF DICKINSON, WOULD LOVE TO COME SPEAK TO COUNCIL.

SO, AND HE WAS SAYING HE HADN'T, UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER.

WHAT'S THE GENTLEMAN'S NAME? MR. MAGNO.

DO YOU REMEMBER MR. WILLIAMS OR MR. ROBINSON? MAYBE.

BUT I, NO, HE CAME AND SPOKE TO THE CITY FOR, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MANY YEARS.

AND, UH, AND HE WAS VERY EXCITED TO SPEAK TO US AND COME AND SPEAK TO Y'ALL.

I JUST DON'T REMEMBER THEM ASKING FOR A, UH, A REPRESENTATIVE THOUGH.

HOLD ON.

SO THE GENTLEMAN'S NAME RON WILLIAMS. RON, THE GENTLEMAN'S NAME IS RON WILLIAMS. AND HE, UH, I'LL GIVE YOU HIS TITLE.

HE'S TELLING ME THAT WE'RE DO A REPRESENTATIVE ON THERE AND WE DON'T HAVE ONE.

HAVEN'T HAD, SO IF WE, IF WE'RE DUE ON, WE NEED TO PUT SOMEBODY ON IT.

'CAUSE THERE'S SOME GRANTS OUT THERE THAT WE CAN GIVE FOR OUR CITY, WE WILL FIND SINCE SISTER DEGREE PASSED AWAY IN JUNE OF 2022.

OKAY.

UM, AND I, I, I REMEMBER, LIKE I SAID, I WAS PASTOR IN FAITH, UMC AND PEOPLE FROM SETH ACTUALLY CAME TO HER, UH, FUNERAL TO, TO GIVE HER A PROCLAMATION AND EVERYTHING.

AND, AND WHEN THE PERSON CAME TO GIVE A PRESENTATION, HE MENTIONED HER AS WELL.

BUT YEAH, WE'VE NOT HAD REPRESENTATION SINCE 22.

I WILL SEEK CLARIFICATION AS WE SPEAK.

ANTICIPATE AN ANSWER PROBABLY TOMORROW, WHENEVER HE GETS IN THE OFFICE.

RON WILLIAMS IS THE EXECUTIVE.

WE NEED SOMEBODY, WE, IF WE DO FIND OUT WE NEED TO APPOINT SOMEBODY, WE NEED TO GET IT ON AGENDA.

WE'LL GET IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA.

THE NEXT AGENDA.

YES, SIR.

SO NO ACTION ON THIS ONE, RIGHT? NO.

WELL, THIS IS, IS UP TO COUNCIL, BUT WHAT THEY'RE SEEKING IS THE CITY OF DICKINSON'S APPROVAL FOR THEM TO ISSUE THOSE BONDS.

WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF ASSIGNING, IT'S NOT A PUBLIC OR PRIVATE ACTIVITY BOND AUTHORITY.

WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THAT? IF WE'RE ASSIGNING IT, IF WE'RE NOT ENCUMBERED BY ANY MADE BECAUSE WE'RE A MEMBER.

SO IT'S KIND.

SO, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, UM, IS, IS THIS SIMILAR LIKE A PROXY VOTE? IF YOU'RE A SHAREHOLDER OF A COMPANY, THEY'RE GONNA ASK EVERYBODY THAT'S A SHAREHOLDER YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO ANSWER.

IT'S JUST IDEAL FOR YOU TO ANSWER.

UM, IS THAT KIND OF THIS SCENARIO? IT'S, IT'S SIMILAR, YES, SIR.

BECAUSE OUR NO IS NOT GONNA STOP IT, IS WHAT I'M GETTING AT, RIGHT? IT JUST IS GONNA, BUT YEAH, I, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

ALRIGHT, I THINK WE ARE, WE HAVE A MOTION TO PROVE AND A SECOND, RIGHT? I'M TRYING TO, OR NO? NO.

ALRIGHT.

GOT A MOTION.

SECOND FOR, GOT A SECOND.

ALRIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

UH, MOTION PASS.

SO, SEVEN

[7.F Consideration and possible action to appoint board members to the Dickinson Economic Development Corporation. (DEDC)]

F CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPOINT BOARD MEMBERS TO THE DICKINSON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

MATT SAER, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS.

OKAY.

DUE TO THE FACT THAT EVERY YEAR YOU, EITHER EVERY YEAR, ONE YEAR GETS FOUR MEMBERS AND ONE YEAR GETS THREE MEMBERS.

THE RECORDS ARE SO MESSED UP THAT THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR, UH, CITY SECRETARY CANNOT FIND OUT WHO IS SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE BOARDS BECAUSE THEY APPOINTED PEOPLE, BUT THEY THINK THEY APPOINTED THEM FOR TWO YEARS WHEN THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE FINISHING SOMEBODY'S TERM.

MM-HMM .

SO WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE DUE ON THIS BOARD THAT NEED TO BE EITHER REPLACED REPOINTED OR SOMETHING, BRING IT BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING WITH EVERYBODY'S NAME AND WHO'S

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FILED APPLICATION THAT WANTS TO BE ON THESE BOARDS.

AND THAT WAY WE CAN DO IT ONE TIME AND MAKE HIS JOB EASY.

ALRIGHT.

GOT A MOTION TO SUSPEND.

GOT A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSED.

UH, ALL RIGHT.

UM, SO WE DID NO CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE

[7.G Consideration and possible action to direct staff to initiate an amendment to the City’s Unified Development Code and/or zoning map to allow certain additional residential use on some properties currently zoned Urban Transition. (Community Development)]

ACTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO INITIATE AN AMENDMENT TO THE CITY'S UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AND OR ZONING MAP TO ALLOW CERTAIN ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL USE ON SOME PROPERTIES CURRENTLY ZONED URBAN TRANSITION.

SHOULD WE ALSO MOVE THIS POSTPONE? YEAH, POSTPONE IT.

WE'RE GONNA WORK THIS OUT WITH .

WE'RE GONNA WORK THIS WITH P AND Z SINCE THE PREVIOUS, UM, DO WE REALLY NEED TO DO ANYTHING WITH THIS ONE? OR LET'S DO WE, YOU, I DON'T THINK SO.

BUT WHAT, WHAT WERE YOU PROPOSING, IF YOU DON'T MIND ME ASKING? SO, THE REASON, UH, I PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR TODAY IS, IS DUE TO KIND OF A TIME CRUNCH, UH, WE'RE GETTING APPLICATIONS TO CHANGE ZONING, UH, A LOT OF THEM FOR THE URBAN TRANSITION ZONING DISTRICT.

UH, AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF 'EM COMING UP ON THE NEXT, ON THE COMING P AND Z MEETINGS.

UH, AND THE REASON I, UH, I'M LOOKING FOR DIRECTION ON IT, IS TO APPROVE THE UPCOMING ZONE CHANGE REQUESTS.

IT, IT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA MAKE THE ZONING MAP LOOK MESSY.

IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE SPOT ZONING IN CERTAIN AREAS AND, AND, UM, JUST LOOKING FOR A CLEANER WAY TO DO IT, RATHER IF THAT'S, UH, WHAT ADDITIONAL USE.

SO, SO USE, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR, SO LEMME JUST MAKE SURE I'M, UH, I GET WHAT YOU'RE ASKING TO DO.

SO, AND TELL ME IF I'M WRONG, YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT TO WHERE ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL CAN BE ALLOWED IN URBAN TRANSITION, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO CHANGE THE ZONE.

WE CAN ALLOW FOR THE RESIDENTS TO BE IN THERE.

CORRECT.

BUT, BUT NOT BY, RIGHT.

ACTUALLY, I, UH, WORKED WITH TRAVIS ON COMING UP WITH A SUGGESTION.

SO THE CHALLENGE THAT TRAVIS, UH, SPEAKS TO IS THAT A LOT OF PROPERTIES WERE REZONED WITH THE UDC ADOPTION TO THIS ZONE THAT WE CALL URBAN TRANSITION.

UH, THIS ZONE ALLOWS FOR RESIDENTIAL USES, BUT ONLY IN HIGHER DENSITY CLASSIFICATIONS, UH, DOES NOT ALLOW FOR SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED.

UH, RESIDENTIAL USES DOES NOT ALLOW FOR THAT.

BY, BY, RIGHT? CORRECT.

OKAY.

AND SO, UH, SOME FOLKS THAT, UH, I THINK THEY BOUGHT PROPERTY AND THEY WANNA BUILD IN ORDER TO BUILD SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, THAT MEANS THAT THEY HAVE TO ASK FOR A REZONING AWAY FROM URBAN TRANSITION.

SO IF THE COUNCIL WERE TO DO THAT AND GRANT THAT, THEN WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS, YOU'LL SEE ON OUR ZONING MAP ALL THESE AREAS THAT ARE CONTIGUOUS, THAT ARE URBAN TRANSITION.

YOU'LL START SEEING LIKE HOLES POP UP WHERE IT'S NOW NO LONGER UT YOU KNOW, ZONING, BUT RATHER A, YOU KNOW, ZONING THAT ALLOWS FOR THE, UH, THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

AND IN, IN ZONING PARLANCE, YOU KNOW, YOU START LOOKING LIKE YOU'RE DOING WHAT'S CALLED SPOT ZONING.

'CAUSE ZONING IS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE SOMEWHAT PURSUANT TO A, A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER.

A A COMP PLAN IS NOT LIKE WRITTEN IN STONE, LIKE ALL YOUR ZONING DISTRICTS HAVE TO PERFECTLY MATCH THAT, BUT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A GUIDE.

OKAY.

SO IF YOU START, UH, PUNCHING HOLES INTO THAT MAP THAT IS SHOWN IN YOUR COMP PLAN, THEN YOU START TO KIND OF UNDERMINE THE WHOLE THEORY OF ZONING.

SO, AND SO THE, THE IDEA THAT I HAD WAS, WELL, INSTEAD OF HAVING IT BE BE A ZONING MAP, CHANGE A CHANGE TO A DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICT, MAKE IT A TEXT AMENDMENT WHERE YOU CHANGE THE DESCRIPTION OF THE UT ZONING DISTRICT.

AND INSTEAD OF ALLOWING SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED USE BY RIGHT, WHICH, IF YOU DO THAT, THEN IT KIND OF MESSES UP THE WHOLE THEORY BEHIND, UH, URBAN TRANSITION ZONING AS WELL, BUT RATHER ALLOWING IT BY WHAT IS CALLED A SPECIAL EXCEPTION.

SO A SPECIAL EXCEPTION IS SOMETHING THAT IS, UH, NOT ALLOWED BY, RIGHT.

BUT IT'S PROVIDED FOR IN THE ORDINANCE, IT JUST REQUIRES AN ADDITIONAL APPROVAL.

SO THAT WOULD GO TO THE, THE P AND Z AND THEN TO THE COUNCIL FOR FINAL APPROVAL.

AND YOU CAN SET IN THAT TEXT AMENDMENT CRITERIA, WHAT YOU WOULD LOOK AT TO GRANT, SUCH SPECIAL EXCEPTION.

BUT THAT WOULD THEN KIND OF THREAD THE NEEDLE ON THE ONE HAND, ALLOW YOU TO KEEP IT AS UT ZONING, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND ALSO ALLOW FOR SINGLE FAMILY DETACH RESIDENTIAL USE.

BUT JUST WITH THAT ADDITIONAL APPROVAL BY WAY OF SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS.

IS THERE A THRESHOLD IN TERMS OF HOW MANY TIMES YOU CAN USE THAT IN A CERTAIN, UH, NO SIR ZONE? UH, NO.

NO.

I THINK PROBABLY TO EXPAND ON THAT A LITTLE BIT, THE UDC REFERS TO IT AS CONDITIONAL USE OR LIMITED USE.

UH, SO CONDITIONAL USE, IT HAS TO COME TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL AND LIMITED USE IS ABLE TO BE APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY.

UH, SO THE BENEFIT TO THAT IS, IS THERE'S NO, UH, HUMAN FEELINGS ABOUT IT.

IF IT'S LIMITED USE, WE SET THE STANDARDS, THEY MEET IT, THEY GET APPROVED, THERE'S NO DELAY.

UH, IF YOU WANT TO GO THE CONDITIONAL USE WAY WHERE COUNSEL HAS THE AUTHORITY, UH, THEN THE, THE CONDITIONS

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CAN BE WHATEVER COUNSEL DECIDES AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO TO COUNSEL, UH, FOR THAT APPROVAL.

SO JUST SO I'M CLEAR, IS STAFF ASKING US TO PULL THIS? OR IS THERE SOMETHING THEY'RE ASKING THAT WE CAN DO TO CLEAR THIS? WHAT, WHAT STAFF IS ASKING THE COUNCIL TO DO? BECAUSE THE CITY CAN UNILATERALLY INITIATE ZONING AND A ZONING CHANGE TO SEE ZONING ORDINANCE.

BUT BECAUSE HERE, STAFF DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THE COUNCIL MIGHT WANT TO ENTERTAIN.

AND SO THEREFORE THIS AGENDA ITEM WHERE WE LAY OUT WHAT THE, UH, I GUESS THE ISSUE IS RIGHT NOW, OKAY.

WHAT THE CHALLENGE WE HAVE AND THEN LEAVE IT UP TO THE COUNCIL TO MAKE A MOTION, TAKE A VOTE TO DIRECT STAFF AS TO WHAT THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO DO.

DO Y'ALL WANT US TO INITIATE A TEXT AMENDMENT THAT ALLOWS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL BUY RIGHT, ANYWHERE IN UT OR DO YOU WANNA DO IT BY CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, A CP OR BY SPECIAL ? THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE, IF WE DO THIS, DOES THIS MAKE IT EASIER AND MORE, UH, ADAPTABLE TO OUR CURRENT RESIDENTS THAT WANT TO LIVE WHERE THEY WANNA LIVE AND MAKE THIS IS MAKING OUR CITIZENS' LIVES EASIER OR HARDER? THAT'S THE QUESTION I HAVE.

IT WOULD CERTAINLY BE MAKING IT EASIER THEN THAT'S THEN I'M ALL FOR IT.

RIGHT.

SO WHEN, WHATEVER WE'RE DOING, IF IT'S MAKING THEIR LIVES EASIER SO WE CAN MAKE, LET THEM LIVE THEIR LIVES AND US STAY OUTTA THEIR BUSINESS, THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO DO.

SO LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION.

AFTER WE JUST HAD A, A JOINT MEETING AND THEN THEY AGREED TO TAKE THIS ON, WOULD IT BE BETTER JUST TO POSTPONE THIS, PRESENT IT TO THE PLANNING ZONING AND IF THEY LIKE IT, BRING IT BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING? TWO WEEKS AIN'T GOING TO KILL US.

WELL, THAT, THAT WAS KINDA MY QUESTION.

IT JUST KIND OF GENERICALLY SAYS, INITIATE AN AMENDMENT.

LIKE WHEN ARE WE GONNA KNOW THE WORDING OF THE AMENDMENT OR HOW IT'S AMENDED? LIKE, WILL THAT BE AT THE NEXT MEETING? YEAH.

AND, AND I GUESS A, A FOLLOW UP QUESTION TO THAT, IT SOUNDED LIKE, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, TRAVIS WAS TRYING TO GET THIS ON, 'CAUSE WE HAVE FOUR IN THE PIPELINE THAT THIS MIGHT CURE.

YEAH.

THEY, THAT'S, THEY KIND OF NEED AN ANSWER, BUT I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT I'M ANSWERING , BUT HAD, RIGHT.

SO, BUT HAVE THEY EVEN GONE TO P AND Z YET? AREN'T THEY SUPPOSED TO GO THIS MONTH? RIGHT.

SO THE, THE PROPERTIES IN QUESTION WOULD GO THIS MONTH FOR ZONING MAP AMENDMENTS.

UH, AND ADDITIONALLY, ANY TEXT AMENDMENTS AND ZONING CHANGES WOULD GO TO P AND Z FIRST.

ALSO, THIS IS LITERALLY JUST TO DIRECT US WHETHER WE WANNA GO CHANGING THE ZONING OR CHANGING THE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.

YEAH.

SO IF I'M CORRECT, IF WE, IF WE INITIATE THIS AMENDMENT, THEN THEY MAY NOT HAVE TO GO TO P AND Z AT ALL BECAUSE RIGHT.

SO I MEAN, THEY'RE GET SOME WORDING SPECIAL EXCEPTION.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING WITH THE ZONING AS IT IS, IS THAT RIGHT? THEY'RE ON THE AGENDA ALREADY FOR THE ZONING MEETING THIS MONTH.

UH, SO I WOULD TAKE THE DIRECTION FROM THIS MEETING AND, AND PUT IT INTO THAT MEETING WHETHER WE WANNA TABLE IT OR HOW WE WANNA PROCEED WITH THAT.

THIS IS GONNA BE A ORDINANCE CHANGE, RIGHT? CORRECT.

YES SIR.

IT BE SO IT'S READING ANYWAY, CORRECT? CORRECT.

IT'LL BE A CHANGE ATTACHED.

IT'S NOT, YEAH.

IT'S NOT GETTING CHANGED.

YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE THE, YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE THE WORDING TONIGHT.

I, I MY RECOMMENDATION TAKE IT TO B AND Z.

WELL, AND, AND THAT WAS NOT THE INTENT.

THE INTENT IS FOR THE GUIDANCE COUNCIL TO DIRECT US TO EVEN DRAFT THAT.

I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

WE'RE NOT APPROVING ANYTHING'S.

Y'ALL WANNA KNOW WHICH ROUTE, SO CORRECT.

WE AGREE WITH THE PROCESS.

YES.

GOT IT.

GO WITH THE EASIEST, THE EASIEST ONES.

WHAT I, THE ONE THAT ALLOWS OUR CITIZENS, ONCE AGAIN, I GO BACK TO WHAT I SAID EARLIER IS THE MOST FREEDOM, RIGHT? SO AS PERMISSIVE AS POSSIBLE AND AS RESTRICTIVE WHEN NECESSARY MM-HMM .

RIGHT? SO IF WE CAN ALLOW OUR CITIZENS AND OUR BUSINESS OWNERS TO CONDUCT BUSINESS THE WAY THEY NEED TO DO IT, THAT'S WHAT I PREFER.

HOWEVER, WE LIVE IN A WORLD OF RULES.

AS LONG AS WE FOLLOW THE RULES, WE'RE GOOD.

WE JUST GOTTA MAKE SURE OUR RULES ARE GOOD.

I AGREE.

SO, ALRIGHT.

WHICH WAY ARE WE DIRECTING Y'ALL? I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR.

ARE WE CHANGING THE ALLOWABLE IN URBAN TRANSITION? ARE WE ALLOWING STAFF TO SIT THERE AND MAKE CHANGES INDIVIDUALLY? WELL, THAT'S GONNA BE DETERMINED BY HOW THE COUNCIL CHOOSES TO MAKE ITS MOTION.

SO WE HAVEN'T MOTIONED YET, IS WHATEVER WE DECIDE AND VOTE ON THE, THE TWO REASONABLE CHOICES THAT I WOULD PRESENT ARE CHANGE THE ZONING CITY INITIATE, CHANGE THE ZONING OF THIS CERTAIN AREA AND THAT WOULD HELP THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE OR DO THE TEXT AMENDMENT AND, AND DECIDE WHAT WE REALLY WANT IN URBAN TRANSITION.

AND THAT WILL BE A LONG-TERM FIX.

SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA HATE WHAT I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS.

I WOULD ACTUALLY, BUT WE WOULD BE CHANGING THE ALLOWABLE USES IN URBAN TRANSITION.

CORRECT.

THAT WOULD BE THE MOST PERMANENT WAY TO DO THIS.

SO JUST TO, TO KIND OF ADD, I I THINK YOU SHOULD ACTUALLY GO TALK TO P AND Z FIRST.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

ASK THEM BECAUSE WE LITERALLY JUST TOLD THEM TO GO DO THAT JOB.

SO WHICHEVER ROUTE THEY EXPLAIN TO THEM WHAT THE, THAT EXACTLY WHAT Y'ALL EXPLAINED TO US AND THEN I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY.

'CAUSE ONCE AGAIN, I CANNOT CONFIDENTLY TELL YOU WHICH ROUTE IS THE BEST.

I THINK TAKING THE EASY WAY, THE EASIEST ONE.

THAT'S LONG TERM EASIEST.

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YES.

BUT IT'D BE KIND OF HARD AFTER YOU JUST LET THEM WALK OUT THE DOOR AND SAID, SO GO DO THIS.

THIS WAS A TERRIBLE TIME TO BRING THIS ITEM TO YOU.

YEAH.

SO THAT'S WHY WHENEVER WE FIRST WALKED UP, I SAID, NO, WE CAN TABLE THIS.

'CAUSE I THOUGHT THIS WAS RELATED TO INSTRUCTIONS FROM THE WORKSHOP, SO THAT'S FINE.

YEAH.

I MOVE.

I I THINK IT WOULD BE DISRESPECTFUL TO THEM IF WE MAKE MOTIONS WITHOUT PLANNING ZONING.

ALL WE GOT A MOTION TO POSTPONE.

DO I GOT A SECOND? SECOND.

GOT A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? BEAUTIFUL.

ALRIGHT.

MOTION PASSED.

UM, ALRIGHT, NEXT ONE

[7.I Consideration and possible action to cast a vote for the Texas Municipal League (TML) Region 14 Director Election. (Council)]

IS CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO CAST A VOTE FOR THE, UH, TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE REGION 14 DIRECTOR ELECTION.

UM, THIS IS SOMETHING I GUESS WE ALL HAVE TO AGREE ON.

UM, NOMINATE SALLY BRANSON, THE INCUMBENT SECOND.

GOT A SECOND.

UM, ANY QUESTIONS? WHO MAY TO WHO SECONDED? UH, COUNCIL, I SECONDED.

COUNCIL MEMBER MONDS BRANCH.

SHE'S THE CURRENT ONE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

FRIENDSWOOD FRIENDSWOOD.

I KNOW.

UM, I TALKED TO HER AS WELL AS I TALKED TO, UH, MAYOR FOREMAN AND MAYOR FOREMAN HAD NOTHING BUT AMAZING THINGS TO SAY.

SO YEAH, I'VE WORKED WITH HER ON HGAC TOO.

SHE'S A PAST CHAIR OF THE COUNCIL, SO MM-HMM .

OKAY.

SO, ALL RIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSED.

SEVEN J.

CONSIDERATION

[7.J RESOLUTION XXX -2025 - Consideration and possible action to adopt a Resolution to approve the sale of an emergency access road easement to Castlerock Communities LLC. (Community Development)]

AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE THE SALE OF AN EMERGENCY ACCESS ROAD EASEMENT TO CASTLE ROCK COMMUNITIES LLC.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? CAN WE GET A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES? SO TAKE THIS UP AFTER CLOSED SESSION? YES.

WE CAN, UH, SUSPEND THE RULE.

SO I GOT A MOTION TO, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO, I MAKE A MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

MOTION PASS.

LET'S GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

WE'LL CLOSE

[8. EXECUTIVE (CLOSED) SESSION(S)]

IT DOWN AT 8 32.

MY, ALRIGHT, WE'LL GO

[9. ACTION ITEMS FROM EXECUTIVE (CLOSED) SESSION(S)]

AHEAD AND, UH, OPEN IT BACK UP AT 9 59.

UH, WHICH BRINGS US TO NINE A, UM, CONSIDERATION, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING A MATTER WHICH THE DUTY OF THE ATTORNEY TO THE, UH, NO ACTION.

OH, WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS ONE.

SO NINE A, WE SCRATCH IT.

NINE B, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, LEASE, OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY.

UM, I, AND WE CAN NOW GET TO SEVEN J.

THAT WAS THE ITEM.

THAT WAS, UH, OKAY.

THAT'S THE ONLY ONE WE NEED.

UH, ITEM RIGHT? UH, UNDER NINE B? YES, SIR.

THAT'S CORRECT.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE HAVE SEVEN J, WHICH IS CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE THE SALE OF AN EMERGENCY ACCESS ROAD EASEMENT TO CASTLE ROCK COMMUNITIES.

LLC.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOTION? C CAN WE STATE THE DETAILS? A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, A MOTION TO APPROVE, SORRY.

THE SALE AT THE PURCHASE PRICE OF YEAH, THE SALE THAT I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SALE OF THAT LAND TO THE DEVELOPER OF CASTLE ROCK COMMUNITIES FOR THE AMOUNT OF 40,000.

SORRY.

OKAY.

DO I HAVE TO SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT ALL IN.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS ABOUT IT? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? NO.

AYE.

UH, MOTION PASSED.

ALL.

WHO VOTED NO.

UH, WE GOT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER EDMUNDS AND COUNCIL MEMBER SCHICK.

ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN, UH, NINE C, UH, CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT EVALUATION, REASSIGNMENT, UH, OR DUTIES OF THE, OF A PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE TO WIT CITY MANAGER.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

REMEMBER HOW I'M SUPPOSED TO, WHAT I'M, UH, TO DIRECT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO YOU TO DIRECT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT WITH CHASE CAREY AND BRING IT BACK AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

I SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASS.

ALL RIGHT, NUMBER

[10. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS]

10, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. AND ANYBODY GOT ANYTHING? MAYOR, CAN WE, UM, CAN WE THINK ABOUT ADDING THE, UH, USE OF FIREWORKS ON THE NEXT AGENDA, PLEASE? SO THE FIREWORKS ORDINANCE IS, WE'D LIKE TO CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION FOR THE FIREWORKS ORDINANCE.

YES, I LIKE IT TOO.

ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL ADD THAT ONE FOR THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

THAT'LL BE A FUN ONE.

YEP.

UH, ANYTHING, ANYBODY ELSE, ANY OTHER IDEAS? YEAH.

UM, IT'LL BE THE TWO YEAR ANNIVERSARY IN DECEMBER OF HIRING THE CITY ATTORNEY.

SO WE NEED TO AN EVALUATION, EVALUATE HIM.

YEP.

SO IF HAVE THAT ON THE NEXT ONE, UM, MS IF WE CAN, UH, MS. MIRANDA TO SEND OUT EVALUATIONS AGAIN FOR THE YES SIR.

CITY, UH, ATTORNEY SO WE CAN GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF.

WHAT ABOUT THE EDC APPOINTMENTS? UH, THAT'S ALL THAT, TO ADD THAT TO THE ALL, EVERYBODY, WE CAN ALL IN ONE, ONE SWING IN ALL THE, UH, APPLICATIONS WE HAVE.

YES SIR.

AND THE SETH REPRESENTATION.

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YEAH, I WAS ABOUT TO MENTION THAT TOO.

IF, IF, IF WE HEAR BACK FROM THEM.

OKAY.

I SENT AN EMAIL ALREADY SO SHE GET A RESPONSE.

WE DON'T HAVE NOTHING ON IB, RIGHT? NO, I THINK THAT WAS NOTHING ON IB.

NO, SIR.

UH, WELL WE DID, IT WAS THE, UH, DAN BLANCO.

WE WENT BACK UP TO SEVEN J.

ALRIGHT.

IF THAT'S NO IS ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENT ITEMS, IF NOT, THAT IS ADJOURNMENT.