Sep 23, 2025 City Council

[1. CALL TO ORDER AND CERTIFICATION OF A QUORUM]

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GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER, AND LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET A CERTIFICATION OF A QUORUM.

MAYOR, TRAVIS MELO, PRESENT, COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNNY SIMPSON.

PRESENT, COUNCIL MEMBER SEAN HOLT.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER MARK TOWNSEND.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER SCOTT SCHRADER.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER BILL SCHICK HERE.

AND COUNCIL MEMBER KEVIN EDMONDS.

HERE WE HAVE A QUORUM.

AWESOME.

THANK YOU.

UH, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE, UH, MS. DEBORAH WAL WALKERS FROM FAITH UNITED METHODIST.

SHE'S GOING TO LEAD US IN OUR INVOCATION.

UM, AND THEN I WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

SO IF EVERYONE COULD PRE PLEASE RISE.

GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU FOR THE INVITATION TO COME TONIGHT TO DO THE INVITATION FOR TONIGHT'S COUNCIL MEETING.

I'M REVEREND DERE WALTERS, AND I SERVE AS THE SENIOR PASTOR AT FAITH UNITED METHODIST CHURCH.

SO IF YOU WOULD PLEASE BOW YOUR HEADS AND PRAY ALONG WITH ME.

OH GOD.

OF JUSTICE AND PEACE.

WE GATHER TONIGHT AS STEWARDS OF THIS CITY AND TRUSTED WITH ITS CARE AND CALLED TO SERVE ITS PEOPLE.

GRANT US CLARITY OF MIND, HUMILITY OF HEART, AND COURAGE OF CONVICTION.

MAY OUR COUNCIL'S DELIBERATIONS BE GUIDED BY WISDOM, NOT EGO BY COMPASSION, NOT DIVISION.

HELP US TO LISTEN DEEPLY TO ONE ANOTHER AND TO THE VOICES OF THOSE WHOSE NEEDS ARE OFTEN UNHEARD.

LET EQUITY IN TRUTH, SHAPE OUR DECISIONS.

MAY WE REMEMBER THAT LEADERSHIP IS NOT POWER, BUT SERVICE FOR THE SON OF MAN CAME TO SERVE AND NOT TO BE SERVED.

BLESS THIS COUNCIL WITH DISCERNMENT.

LET THEIR WORK REFLECT THE DIGNITY OF EVERY RESIDENT, THE BEAUTY OF DIVERSITY, AND THE HOPE OF A SHARED FUTURE.

MAY JUSTICE ROLL DOWN LIKE WATERS AND RIGHTEOUSNESS LIKE A EVER FLOWING STREAM FOR ALL OUR GOD'S CHILDREN.

IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER, THE SON, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT.

AND WE SAY AMEN.

AMEN.

AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO, WE'LL DO IT.

OKAY.

AND, UH, PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC, WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE THE NSTITUTE, TEXAS ONE, STATE ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

AND, AND MA'AM, COULD YOU PLEASE SHARE HOW LONG Y'ALL HAVE BEEN HERE IN DICKINSON? AND THEN ALSO ANY OF Y'ALL'S EVENTS YOU GOT COMING UP, UM, OR ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE REAL QUICK ABOUT YOUR, UH, YOUR CONGREGATION AND YOUR CHURCH? YES, I WOULD LOVE TO SHARE ABOUT FAITH UNITED METHODIST CHURCH.

FAITH, UH, IS WAS MADE UP OF TWO CHURCHES, WARREN CHAPEL AND WINFIELD CHAPEL THAT GATHERED TOGETHER TO MAKE FAITH UNITED METHODIST CHURCH IN 1967.

WE ARE ALSO HAVING ONE OF OUR SIGNATURE FUNDRAISERS CALLED OUR SENSATIONAL SALADS ON OCTOBER THE 19TH AT THE WALTER HALL, PAUL PAUL PARK PAVILION ON HIGHWAY THREE.

AND WE WILL HAVE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT, A WONDERFUL AFTERNOON OF FELLOWSHIP AND JUST ENJOYING ONE ANOTHER'S COMPANY.

AND THE DONATION IS $25.

AND WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOUR SUPPORT.

AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE INVITATION TO COME AND DO THE INVITATION.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL GO WITH, UH, NUMBER THREE ANNOUNCEMENTS

[3. ANNOUNCEMENTS AND PRESENTATIONS]

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, START WITH OUR COUNCIL MEMBER CO UH, COMMENTS WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER EDMONDS.

WE'LL GO FROM LEFT TO RIGHT.

SO, UH, WHATEVER YOU GOT.

THANKS, YOU, THANK YOU GUYS, UH, FOR BEING HERE.

THERE'S A, SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE TODAY, MORE THAN USUAL, SO I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE AND THOSE ATTENDING ONLINE.

UM, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY OF, UM, UH, ATTENDING THE PARADE, THE, UH, HOMECOMING PARADE.

AND I JUST WANNA GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO OUR DICKINSON GATORS FOR THEIR FOUR AND OH START THIS SEASON AND THEIR WIN, UH, LAST WIN OVER CLEAR CREEK HIGH SCHOOL.

AND, UH, LASTLY, I'D JUST LIKE TO OFFER MY PUBLIC CONDOLENCE TO MISS, UH, LOIS MCCOY.

UH, ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS, HER HUSBAND JUST RECENTLY PASSED AWAY, AND I JUST WOULD LIKE TO OFFER MY CONDOLENCES TO HER.

THAT'S IT, MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

THANKS EVERYBODY FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE A BIG, UH, CROWD, ESPECIALLY OUR POLICE AND FIREFIGHTERS.

UH, AT THE MEETING, UH, BRIEFLY, I ATTENDED THE GALVESTON COUNTY MAYOR COUNCIL MEETING IN GALVESTON.

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UH, ATTENDED THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT NUMBER ONE MEETING ABOUT THE, UH, HUGHES LANDING PROJECT, UH, ATTENDED, UH, A MEETING WITH HANK DOOGIE IN THE COUNTY TO MEET OUR NEW ROAD AND BRIDGE SUPERVISOR, ZACH SMITH.

UH, BUT YESTERDAY I ATTENDED THE DICKINSON INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, STATE OF THE DISTRICT, UH, UH, EVENT WITH DR. REBECCA BROWN.

AND I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT DICKINSON SCHOOLS HAVE COME A LONG WAY AND THEY'VE IMPROVED, UH, ALMOST EVERY YEAR.

DICKINSON HIGH SCHOOL IS THE SECOND HIGHEST RATED HIGH SCHOOL IN GALVESTON COUNTY.

THEY MISSED BEING THE FIRST BY ONE POINT.

UM, I'M VERY PROUD OF WHAT THEY DID.

FRINGEWOOD WAS THE ONE THAT, THAT BARELY BEAT 'EM OUT.

BUT, UH, I'M VERY PROUD OF WHAT OUR DISTRICT IS DOING, AND IT MAKES ALL THE REST OF US LOOK GOOD.

THANK YOU.

WELCOME EVERYONE.

THOSE ONLINE AND THOSE HERE.

A LOT OF FAMILIAR FACES.

SO GOOD TO SEE ALL Y'ALL.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU DEAR EVERYONE THAT CAME OUT TONIGHT.

GOOD EVENING.

WELCOME EVERYBODY.

I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY EXCEPT I DO SECOND THE COMMENTS ON THE DIXON GATORS.

THEY'RE FANTASTIC.

START IN THE HIGH SCHOOL IN GENERAL.

BEEN PART OF THAT SCHOOL FOR 20 PLUS YEARS, AND I LOVE TO SEE THE CHANGE THAT ARE COMING.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.

UH, BOTH IN PERSON AND ONLINE, UH, FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS, STAFF, AND, UH, THOSE WATCHING CITIZENS.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

AND I ONLY GOT A COUPLE THINGS TO ADD.

UH, ONE, UM, MYSELF AND ACTUALLY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HOLT, WE ATTENDED, UH, COMMISSIONER DOOGIE CAMPAIGN EVENT, THE HOUSTON ASTROS GAME, WHICH, UM, WAS A SUPER AWESOME EVENT TO WHERE WE GOT TO CONNECT WITH A FEW LOCAL REPRESENTATIVES AS WELL AS SOME BUSINESS OWNERS AND SOME, UH, INFLUENTIAL PEOPLE WITHIN THE COUNTY AND HOUSTON AREA.

UM, SO THEY'RE DEFINITELY SEEING DICKINSON ON THE MAP A LOT MORE OFTEN.

UM, BUT THE MAIN THING I WANTED TO TELL LET EVERYONE KNOW IS, UH, MY MEETING WITH TXDOT THAT HAPPENED LAST WEEK ON, I THINK IT WAS TUESDAY.

UM, WE SAT IN MY OFFICE FOR ABOUT TWO AND A HALF HOURS.

THEY ACTUALLY HAD TO COME TO MY OFFICE AND NAVIGATE THOSE WONDERFUL MEETINGS.

UM, AND THEY WERE ACTUALLY VERY RECEPTIVE TO SOME OF THE CRITICISM AND OR, UM, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS AND CONCERNS THAT MYSELF, MR. CAREY AND MR. MAG ANGELINO HAD ABOUT THE, ABOUT JUST KIND OF OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH TXDOT.

UM, IT WAS A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING.

I THINK THEY CAN BOTH, UH, SECOND THAT THEY ARE LOOKING RIGHT NOW AT THE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS WE MADE TO HELP FIX OUR PROBLEM WITH THOSE MEDIANS.

UM, SO THE OTHER THING IS, IS WE'RE GETTING OUR MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT UPDATED WITH TDOT.

AND THE BIGGEST THING, I THINK THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECE TO THE PUZZLE, IS WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A LONGSTANDING MEETING BETWEEN MYSELF AND TDOT ON A REGULAR BASIS SO THAT WE'RE COMMUNICATING ON A MORE REGULAR BASIS SO WE CAN, UH, MAKE SURE OUR ROADS THAT ARE, UM, I GUESS WE SHARE ROADS, YOU KNOW, WITH TXDOT, WE NEED TO BE COMMUNICATING MORE OFTEN.

OTHER THAN THAT, UH, WE'LL GO TO THREE B, WHICH IS CITY MANAGER UPDATE.

GOOD EVENING.

I GUESS YOU CAN SEE THAT I'M NOT MR. CAREY.

YEP.

UH, HE IS, UH, HAPPILY COACHING HIS DAUGHTER'S FIRST BASEBALL GAME, WHERE, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, SHE'S BEATING UP ON ALL THE BOYS AND, UH, HE IS QUITE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

BUT HE SHOULD BE HERE JUST RUNNING A LITTLE TARDY.

AND WE HAVE A LONG AGENDA, SO I DON'T WANT TO EXTEND IT TOO MUCH WITH, UH, TOO MANY UPDATES.

I WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO TAKE THE TIME TO THANK THE DICKINSON POLICE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION AND THE, UH, AND THE SUPPORT THAT THEY GAVE US WITH THIS AMENDMENT AND THE HARD WORK TO GET THROUGH THAT AND HELP US GET THIS BUDGET PASSED.

WE WILL ABSOLUTELY BE SITTING DOWN WITH 'EM IN THE NEXT, UH, COUPLE MONTHS AND BARGAINING A NEW, UH, CONTRACT.

SO THANK YOU, UM, FOR THAT.

AND, UH, THAT'S ABOUT IT, UNLESS Y'ALL HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.

ALRIGHT.

DO WE HAVE A, UH, DEPARTMENT HEAD STATUS REPORT? WE DO.

SO I'D LIKE TO, UH, TO ASK, UH, CHIEF, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME ON UP, SIR.

OUR MAYOR AND COUNCIL, FIRST OF ALL, WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THIS PLATFORM TO RECOGNIZE SOME OF THE POSITIVE THINGS WE'RE DOING IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND TONIGHT WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE, THE PLEASURE OF RECOGNIZING ONE OF OUR CAPTAINS IN A WHOLE SQUAD A WHOLE SHIFT THAT DID SOMETHING AMA UH, AMAZING THAT IT COULD HAVE GONE A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.

BUT, UH, CAPTAIN MONTGOMERY'S GONNA TELL YOU ABOUT THAT.

I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE'RE ABOUT THREE AWAY FROM BEING FULLY STAFFED IN PATROL OR, UH, GETTING AWFULLY CLOSE TO BEING COMPLETELY STAFFED.

THAT'S QUITE AN ACCOMPLISHMENT FOR ANY POLICE DEPARTMENT NOWADAYS.

SO WE'RE CLOSE WITH THAT.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE REALLY DONE

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IN OTHER WORDS, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REALLY IMPROVE FROM TOP TO BOTTOM, ESPECIALLY ON HOW WELL WE DELIVER SERVICES AND HOW CAPABLE WE ARE TO NOT ONLY LEAD OURSELVES TO DO THE RIGHT THING, BUT LEAD OTHERS.

CAPTAIN MONTGOMERY WAS GONE FOR 10 WEEKS IN QUANTICO, VIRGINIA, ATTENDING THE FBI NATIONAL ACADEMY.

AND TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKSTORY ON THE FBI NATIONAL ACADEMY AND WHY THIS IS A BIG THING, UH, NATIONAL ACADEMY WAS FORMED IN 1935 BY J UH, J EDGAR HOOVER.

AND THE PRIMARY REASON THAT THEY STARTED IS TO TRY TO STANDARDIZE AND PROFESSIONALIZE LAW ENFORCEMENT NATIONWIDE.

THE FBI NATIONAL ACADEMY IN QUANTICO, VIRGINIA IS CONSIDERED ONE OF THE PREMIER, IF NOT THE PREMIER LAW ENFORCEMENT EXECUTIVE TRAINING PROGRAMS IN THE WORLD.

LESS THAN 1% OF ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT WORLDWIDE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND THIS COURSE, MUCH LESS SUCCESSFULLY PASS IT.

THE OBJECTIVES OF THE NATIONAL ACADEMY IS TO HAVE A PURPOSE-DRIVEN LAW ENFORCEMENT LEADERS THAT ARE AWARE OF THE MODERN TRENDS AND MODERN POLICING PRACTICES.

THAT'S WHERE WE ARE GOING IN DICKINSON.

I CAN THINK OF NO ONE BETTER THAT EXEMPLIFIES THAT DAY IN AND DAY OUT THAN CAPTAIN MONTGOMERY.

THE OTHER PERSON I REALLY WANNA RECOGNIZE TONIGHT IS KAREN MONTGOMERY, HIS WIFE, BECAUSE IT TAKES A SACRIFICE FOR ANY FAMILY MEMBER TO ALLOW THEIR LOVED ONES TO LEAVE HOME EVERY DAY, KNOWING THAT THEY MAY OR MAY NOT COME BACK IN IN SERVICE OF SOMEONE ELSE.

BUT IT ALSO TAKES A SPECIAL SPOUSE TO ALLOW THEIR LOVED ONE TO GO AWAY FOR 10 WEEKS WHERE SHE HAS TO HANDLE EVERYTHING, INCLUDING, I THINK THE, WHAT STORM CAME THROUGH THAT YOU HAD TO DEAL WITH.

SO INCLUDING STORMS THAT MIGHT RISE UP THAT SHE HAS TO DEAL WITH WHILE HE'S, HE'S PLAYING AT THE NATIONAL ACADEMY, SHE'S HAVING TO CARRY ALL THE LOAD.

SO, UH, I CAN THINK OF NO BETTER PERSON AGAIN, TO EXEMPLIFY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO CHANGE THE CULTURE AND TAKE US IN TO THE NEXT LEVEL AND LEAVE IT BETTER THAN WE FOUND IT.

AND HE CERTAINLY EXEMPLIFIES IT.

THE DAY THAT I WALKED IN, HE WAS A SERGEANT WITH DICKINSON, AND I IMMEDIATELY RECOGNIZED HIS LEADERSHIP CALIBER.

I THINK A LOT OF THAT WAS DEVELOPED WHEN HE WAS A UNITED STATES MARINE, WHERE HE HONORABLY RETIRED AS A MASTER GUNNERY SERGEANT.

MY SON BEING A MARINE SAID THAT'S LIKE A GOD IN THE MARINE CORPS, UH, THIS MARINE OVER HERE TO MY RIGHT, MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ATTEST TO THAT, BUT, UH, HE, HE MAKES ME CALL HIM, SIR ALL THE TIME.

BUT, UH, I, UH, ACTUALLY BOTH OF 'EM DO.

UH, BUT I, I CAN'T THINK OF ANYBODY MORE REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AS A CULTURE AND LEAD OUR DEPARTMENT TO GET ONTO THE NATIONAL STAGE LIKE HE JUST DID.

SO, CAPTAIN MONTGOMERY, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION OF THE FBI NATIONAL.

WHY AM I A PHOTO CAPTAIN? MONTGOMERY IS GONNA RECOGNIZE HE'S OVER OPERATIONS AND THE, THE CREW THAT HE'S ABOUT, ABOUT TO RECOGNIZE ARE DIRECTLY UNDER HIS COMMAND.

SO I THINK IT'S QUITE FITTING THAT HE RECOGNIZES THEM FOR AN OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT.

SO CAPTAIN MONTGOMERY FLOOR IS YOURS, SIR.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK, SIR.

GOOD EVENING COUNSEL.

IF I CAN, I'D ASK, UH, SERGEANT LILO.

OFFICER BLACKFORD, UM, OFFICER GARZA, DISPATCHER, CIA AND DALTON, WHERE'D HE GO? DALTON, I'LL JUST COME UP HERE IF YOU WOULD.

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YEAH, IF YOU WANT.

UM, SO BE ON BEHALF OF THE CHIEF, UH, POLICE.

I, UH, TAKE PLEASURE IN PRESENTING THIS CERTIFICATE ACCOMMODATION TO THESE GUYS.

UH, FOUR SERVICES SET FORTH IN THE FOLLOWING CITATION.

IN JULY OF THIS YEAR, AT APPROXIMATELY AT 3:00 AM IN THE MORNING, SERGEANT LILO AND OFFICER BLACKFORD WERE DISPATCHED TO A RESIDENCE.

IN REFERENCE TO SUSPICIOUS CIRCUMSTANCES, A THIRD PARTY CALLER HAD REPORTED TO A DISPATCHERS THAT HE BELIEVED HIS FATHER BELIEVED SOMEONE WAS ATTEMPTING TO STEAL A LAWNMOWER OFF THE BACK PORCH OF HIS RESIDENCE.

SERGEANT BELLOW AND OFFICER BLACKFORD DISPATCHED TO THE LOCATION, ARRIVED AT THE LOCATION AND SIMUL SIMULTANEOUSLY LEARNED THAT THE FATHER, WHO WAS THE HOMEOWNER ON SCENE WAS HARD OF HEARING.

AS THEY INVESTIGATED AROUND THE RESIDENCE, THEY ENC THEY ENCOUNTERED THE HOMEOWNER EMERGING FROM THE BACK DOOR WITH A FIREARM.

IMAGINE

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THE BACKYARD OF THE RESIDENCE WHERE THE OFFICERS ARE LOCATED IS DARK.

UH, ONCE HE, UH, RECOGNIZED HIM IN THE BACK SEAT, THEY USED EXCEPTIONAL RESTRAINT AND SOUND DECISION, AND HE IMMEDIATELY, UH, MOVED TO A POSITION OF COVER AND CONCEALMENT.

WITH THE TOTALITY OF CIRCUMSTANCES.

THEY ADDITIONALLY BEGAN MAKING VERBAL ANNOUNCEMENTS AND ATTEMPTS TO MAKE CONTACT WITH THE HOMEOWNER HIMSELF, UH, BASICALLY INFORMING HIM THAT THEY WERE THE POLICE.

HOWEVER, THE HOMEOWNER WAS UNABLE TO HEAR THEM PROPERLY OR SEE THEM IN THE DARK AND DISCHARGED HIS FIREARM AT THE OFFICERS.

GIVEN THE TOTALITY OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES, OFFICERS IMMEDIATELY RETREATED AND BEGAN TO USE ALL AVAILABLE TOOLS TO THEM.

OFFICER GARZA WAS ON ANOTHER, UH, CALL FOR SERVICE, IMMEDIATELY HEARD THE RADIO CRACK DIS, UH, SEPARATED HIMSELF FROM THAT CALL AND RESPONDED TO THE OFFICERS IN DISTRESS.

ONCE HE GOT ON SCENE, HE EVALUATED THE AREA AND TOOK UP A POSITION OF ADVANTAGE THAT WAS ABLE TO ASSIST HIS TEAM.

OFFICER BLACKFORD WAS ABLE TO FIND A POSITION OF ADVANTAGE THAT COVERED THE FRONT DOOR OF THE RESIDENCE FROM A COMPLETELY CONCEALED POSITION.

AS HE WAS THERE, HE WAS ABLE TO SEE THE ENTIRETY OF THE RESIDENCE AND WAS DISPATCHING OVER THE RADIO, TELLING OTHER OFFICERS AND SURROUNDING PERSONNEL WHAT WAS GOING ON OR OTHER RESPONDING MUTUAL AID WHAT WAS GOING ON.

SIMULTANEOUSLY, THE DISPATCHERS ARE HEARING IT BACK AT THE PD.

THE DISPATCHERS ARE ATTEMPTING COMMUNICATION WITH THE THIRD PARTY TO TELL HIM, HEY, YOU'RE FIRING UPON OFFICERS.

THIS IS NOT ANYBODY IN THE BACK.

YOU'RE FIRING UPON THE OFFICERS.

THEY WERE ATTEMPTING TO COORDINATE THE RESPONSE OF MULTIPLE AGENCIES THAT WERE RESPONDING FROM THE CALL THAT WENT OUT FOR SHOTS FIRED.

THEY WERE ALL DOING ALL OF THIS WHILE TRYING TO KEEP ABREAST OF THE COMMUNICATION, GETTING IN CONTACT, MAKING CALL NOTES, KEEPING UP WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING, AND DOCUMENTING EVERY BIT OF THAT.

UM, THAT IS NOT AN EASY TASK.

HAVING DONE THAT, THAT IS NOT AN EASY TASK.

SERGEANT BELLOW AS THE ON SCENE SUPERVISOR, QUICKLY PROCESSING ALL THE INFORMATION BEING PROVIDED TO HIM AND ENSURED THAT HE KEPT THE SCENE UNDER CONTROL WITHOUT IT ESCALATING TO A DISASTER.

FOR THE NEXT FIVE MINUTES OR SO, THEY BEGAN MAKE ANNOUNCEMENTS OVER THE PA SYSTEM IN EFFORTS TO HAVE THE HOMEOWNER EXIT THE RESIDENCE PEACEFULLY.

HE WOULD EVENTUALLY EMERGE FROM THE FRONT, AT WHICH POINT SERGEANT MALLOW, OFFICER GARZA AND OTHER SUPPORTING OFFICERS WERE ABLE TO SAFELY DETAIN THE HOMEOWNER AND COMPLETE AN INVESTIGATION.

THEIR TEAMWORK AS A COHESIVE UNIT WAS DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR PREVENTING FURTHER DISASTER, UH, OR HARM AT THIS LOCATION TO OUR CITY AND OUR RESIDENTS.

IT'S A DIRECT CREDIT TO THEIR TRAINING AND PROFESSIONALISM.

I'LL WRAP IT UP WITH THEIR ACTIONS DEMONSTRATED THEIR COMMITMENT TO OUR PUBLIC SAFETY AND TO THE PROTECTION OF OUR CITIZENS.

AND WE'RE KEEPING WITH THE HIGHEST STANDARDS OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE CITY OF DICKINSON, AND THE LAW ENFORCEMENT PROFESSION AS A WHOLE WITH ELECTRIC, ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT JOBS IS WHAT THESE TWO HAVE BEEN DOING.

I CANNOT UNDERESTIMATE OR UNDERSTATE THAT.

THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE.

THANK YOU GENTLEMEN.

I DON'T THINK WE CAN STRESS ENOUGH HOW HARD THAT IS, IS, UM, SOMETHING THAT I, UH, I KNOW ALL TOO WELL OF WHEN GUNFIRE IS GOING AND BEING ABLE TO PROCESS ALL THAT INFORMATION, THE THINGS THAT THEY DID TO NOT TURN THAT INTO A COMPLETE DISASTER IS UNREAL TO ME.

SO, UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT.

UH, AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING IS

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I WAS NOT THE MAYOR, .

I WAS, I WAS IN MY UNDERWEAR BECAUSE THERE WAS SOMEONE THAT WRECKED THEIR CAR INTO MY YARD.

AND YEAH, YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE GOATEE EITHER.

, THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME YOU AND I EVER MET.

SO THANK YOU FOR, UH, PROGRESSING LIKE THIS AND JUST SHOWING, UH, DICKIN, PUTTING DICKINSON ON A MAP ON THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SCENE.

UM, ALRIGHT.

NUMBER FOUR, PUBLIC COMMENTS.

[4. PUBLIC COMMENTS]

COMMENTS MAY BE GENERAL IN NATURE OR MAY ADDRESS A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM AND SHOULD BE DIRECTED AT THE ENTIRE COUNCIL.

NOT INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL OR STAFF.

ANY SPEAKER MAKING PERSONAL ATTACKS OR USING VULGAR OR PROFANE LANGUAGE SHALL FORFEIT HIS OR HER REMAINING TIME AND SHALL BE SEATED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE TE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.

THE CITY COUNCIL MAY NOT DELIBERATE.

UH, THE FIRST INDIVIDUAL WE HAVE IS MR. MARK MORGAN, HONORABLE MAYOR AND COUNSEL, UM, MARK MORGAN, TEXAS, DIVISION OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, UH, AS OF MONDAY, I'M THE COUNTY LIAISON OFFICER FOR GALVESTON COUNTY.

AND SO I'LL BE SHARING MY INFORMATION WITH YOUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR AND YOURSELF.

SO IF YOU NEED ANYTHING FROM ME, JUST JUST LET ME KNOW.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

I'M HERE FOR YOU, FOR YOU GUYS.

CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT.

ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP WE GOT MR. GARLAND COPELAND.

I MAYOR, COUNCIL, APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE.

UM, I REALLY AM EN ENCOURAGED BY YOUR COMMENT ABOUT THE, UH, MEETING WITH TEX DOC SOMEWHAT RELATED TO THAT.

I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY THE OTHER DAY TO TALK WITH A COUPLE OF THE CITY WORKERS, AND I MENTIONED TO THEM THAT THE BARRICADE FENCE THAT'S AROUND THE WATER STREET PROJECT WAS ENCROACHING ON THAT TRIANGLE SAFETY TRIANGLE AT THE INTERSECTION OF THE FEEDER ROAD AND WATER STREET.

AND YOU COULD NOT SEE ONCOMING TRAFFIC ON FEEDER ROAD IF YOU'RE TRYING TO TURN ON TO THE FEEDER ROAD.

AND, UH, IN THAT CONVERSATION, ONE OF THOSE GUYS KNEW ME FROM BACK WHEN WE WERE BOTH IN TEXAS CITY, I THINK.

BUT ANYWAY, I SAID Y'ALL MIGHT WANT TO CHECK ON THAT WELL, A DAY LATER BECAUSE OF THEM OR SOMEBODY ELSE THAT GOT FIXED.

AWESOME.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S ALL WE GOT FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

AND SO, NUMBER FIVE, CONSENT

[5. CONSENT AGENDA]

THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE CONSIDERED ROUTINE BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION.

THERE WILL NOT BE A SEPARATE DISCUSSION ON THESE ITEMS UNLESS A COUNCIL MEMBER REQUESTS IN WHICH EVENT, THE ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND DISCUSSED AFTER THE CONSENT AGENDA.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOVE TO APPROVE.

GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE.

GOT A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASS.

ALRIGHT, NUMBER SIX.

[6.A Conduct a public hearing concerning a request to amend the official zoning map from Auto-Centric Commercial (AC) zoning district to Urban Transition (UT) zoning district for a parcel of land of approx. ±0.459 acres. The subject property consist of one parcel (163404) and registered address is 3532 Elm Dr. and legally described as ABST 19 PERRY & AUSTIN SUR PT OF LOT 141 (3-0) DICKINSON ADDN D 25% UDI. (Community Development)]

SO, SIX SIX A CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING A REQUEST TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP FROM AUTOCENTRIC COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT TO URBAN TRANSITION ZONING DISTRICT FOR A PARCEL OF LAND OF APPROXIMATELY PLUS OR MINUS 0.459 ACRES.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY PROPERTY CONSISTS OF ONE PARCEL AND REGISTERED ADDRESS IS 3 5 3 2 ELM DRIVE, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS THAT STAFF PRESENTATION APPROVE.

IS THIS THE FIRST YOU SEEN THIS ONE? UH, YEAH, I THINK SO.

OKAY.

WHAT IS THE FIRST, THE FIRST TIME WE'RE SEEING THIS, RIGHT? NEVERMIND.

PROPERTY DONE RIGHT.

OH, OKAY.

OKAY.

THAT'S, I WAS THOUGHT IT WAS FAMILIAR.

OKAY.

SO WE ARE CONSIDERING THIS AS THE FIRST READING.

UH, THIS HAS COME IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL.

BEFORE, UH, DURING THAT MEETING, WE HAD DISCUSSED THAT, UH, THERE WAS A POSSIBLE ISSUE WITH THE POSTED NOTICE, UH, REQUIRED FOR THIS.

AH, OKAY.

UH, SO WE WENT BACK, UH, WE WENT ALL THE WAY BACK TO P AND Z.

WE REDID ALL THE NOTICE, AND THEY WENT TO P AND Z LAST WEEK, UH, FOR THIS ITEM AND THE NEXT ONE.

SO KIND OF SAME DEAL.

UH, THIS IS ON ELM, UH, CURRENTLY ZONED AS AUTOCENTRIC COMMERCIAL.

UH, THE APPLICANT HAS EXPRESSED, UH, THAT THEY WANT TO DO A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE SEEKING THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT TO URBAN TRANSITION SUBJECT PROPERTY HERE.

CURRENT PICTURES, UH, HERE IS MY INFAMOUS SIGN.

SO THIS WAS THE ISSUE LAST TIME.

UH, PUBLIC WORKS GRACIOUSLY HELPED ME OUT AND PRINTED THE GREEN STICKER YOU SEE ON THE SIGN ITSELF, UH, THAT CONTAINS THE MEETING TIME AND LOCATE, I MEAN, TIME AND DATE.

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SO WE DISCUSSED LAST TIME, UM, THAT THE APPLICANT, YOU KNOW, INITIALLY EXPRESSED THEY WANNA DO A DUPLEX DEVELOPMENT.

UH, HOWEVER, THIS IS A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR THAT WE'RE, WE'RE CHANGING THE ZONING.

UH, SO WHATEVER DEVELOPMENT GOES ON IN THIS PROPERTY, IT, IT COULD BE ANYTHING THAT'S ALLOWED IN THAT ZONING DISTRICT.

THEY'RE NOT RESTRICTED TO A DUPLEX.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE ANYTHING IN THIS ZONING DISTRICT THEY WOULD BE PERMITTED TO HAVE.

SO I HAVE THE GREEN IS THE URBAN TRANSITION, WHICH THEY'RE REQUESTING.

AND THE RED IS AUTOCENTRIC COMMERCIAL, WHICH THEY ARE CURRENTLY.

UH, SO IF YOU NOTICE, THE AUTOCENTRIC HAS BASICALLY NO, UH, RESIDENTIAL USES IN THE URBAN TRANSITION.

UH, IT DOES HAVE OPTIONS, UH, FOR A MORE DENSE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT LIKE AN APARTMENT OR MULTIPLEX, UH, OR DUPLEX.

UH, SO I DID PROVIDE THE PRINTED OUT, UH, COMMISSION REPORT, UH, ON YOUR DESK HERE THAT SHOWS PLANNING AND ZONING.

HAD A FEW COMMENTS, BUT THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AS WELL AS STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.

AND I, ALL RIGHT.

UH, DO WE HAVE, UH, APPLICANT PRESENTATION? I THINK HE PRESENTED LAST TIME, DIDN'T HE? SHE WAS HERE LAST TIME.

SHE WAS LAST HERE LAST TIME, YES.

NO APPLICANT THOUGH.

UH, I GUESS SHE'S NOT HERE TONIGHT.

I DON'T SEE HER.

I THOUGHT SHE WAS GONNA HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, WE ALSO DON'T HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS OR APPLICANT REBUTTAL.

SO WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN THE PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH THEN LEADS US TO SIX

[6.B ORDINANCE NO. XXX-2025 - Consideration and possible action to approve an ordinance to amend the official zoning map from Auto-Centric Commercial (AC) zoning district to Urban Transition (UT) zoning district for a parcel of land of approx. ±0.459 acres. The subject property consist of one parcel (163404) and registered address is 3532 Elm Dr. and legally described as ABST 19 PERRY & AUSTIN SUR PT OF LOT 141(3-0) DICKINSON ADDN D 25% UDI. (1st Reading) (Community Development)]

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY CONSISTS OF ONE PARCEL AND REGISTERED ADDRESS IS 3 5 3 2 ELM DRIVE, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS THAT FIRST READING, MOVE TO APPROVE.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

GOT A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION, COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS? YEAH, MAYOR? YES, SIR.

QUICK QUESTION OUT OF CURIOSITY, I'M ASSUMING THIS PARCEL WAS CHANGED TO AUTOCENTRIC WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE UDC? YES.

WHAT WAS IT BEFORE? UNDER THE OLD, UM, BEFORE IT WAS BEFORE THE UUDC CHANGED? I, I'M JUST CURIOUS.

I BELIEVE IT WAS JUST CON CONVENTIONAL RESIDENTIAL.

IT WAS A RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YES, SIR.

ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS? IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSED.

SIX C CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING

[6.C Conduct a public hearing concerning a request to amend the official zoning map from Auto-Centric Commercial (AC) zoning district to Neighborhood Conservation (NC) zoning district for a parcel of land of approx. ±1.336 acres. The subject property consists of one Parcel (375913) and located at the corner of Gum Dr. and FM 517 E. and legally described as: ABST 36 PAGE 3 PT OF LTS 1-3 & ALL OF 4 & 5 (1-1) BLK 6 TROPICAL GARDENS. (Community Development)]

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY CONSISTS OF ONE PARCEL AND LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF GUM DRIVE AND FM FIVE 17 EAST AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS THAT.

SO F IS THIS FIRST RE UH, SO WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7 28.

STAFF PRESENTATION.

GO AHEAD.

YES, SIR.

SO, SAME SITUATION.

UH, WE HAD BROUGHT THIS ONE TO Y'ALL BEFORE, UH, HOWEVER WE TABLED IT, UH, DUE TO INSUFFICIENT NOTICE.

UH, SO SAME DEAL.

WE, WE REDID THE NOTICE, UH, NEWSPAPER POSTING ON SITE AND MAILED TO THE RESIDENTS.

WHERE DID MY SLIDES GO? UM, SEE THE SLIDES IN THERE.

OH, THERE IT IS.

OKAY.

MOVE AROUND.

THERE WE GO.

RIGHT ON.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

SO THIS IS THE PARCEL IN QUESTION APPROXIMATELY AT GUM AND FIVE 17.

UH, IT WAS ALSO PREVIOUSLY ZONED OR RESIDENTIAL, HOWEVER, IT HAS, YOU KNOW, FM FIVE 17 FRONTAGE.

UH, SO IT WAS A FAIR ARGUMENT TO ZONE IT AS A COMMERCIAL.

UH, HOWEVER, THE PROPERTY OWNER, UH, HAS EXPRESSED THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO DO A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THIS PROPERTY.

UH, SO IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY CONFLICT WITH OUR FUTURE LAND USE PLAN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SAME DEAL.

USE OUR UPDATED SIGNS A DAY OF POSTING AND TODAY PROPERTY.

AND SAME DEAL, THE USE TABLE THAT SHOWS, UH, CURRENT USES AND THE REQUESTED USES.

SO THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION, UH, ZONING DISTRICT, THE MOST DENSE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT IT PERMITS IS A DUPLEX AND, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING.

DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL AS WELL AS STAFF RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

ALL RIGHT.

MAYBE NOT.

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OKAY.

AND THEN, UH, NO PUBLIC COMMENTS, NO APPLICANT REBUTTAL.

SO WE'LL ADJOURN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT SEVEN 30, WHICH BRINGS US TO

[6.D ORDINANCE NO. XXX-2025 - Consideration and possible action to approve an ordinance to amend the official zoning map from Auto-Centric Commercial (AC) zoning district to Neighborhood Conservation (NC) zoning district for a parcel of land of approx. ±1.336 acres. The subject property consists of one Parcel (375913) and located at the corner of Gum Dr. and FM 517 E. and legally described as: ABST 36 PAGE 3 PT OF LTS 1-3 & ALL OF 4 & 5 (1-1) BLK 6 TROPICAL GARDENS. (1st Reading) (Community Development)]

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY CONSISTS OF ONE PARCEL AND LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF GUM DRIVE AND FM FIVE 17 EAST AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS FIRST READING.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? I GOT A MOTION.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I GOT A SECOND.

UM, ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS ABOUT THIS SUBJECT? SECOND? NO COMMENTS.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

UH, ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSED.

ALL RIGHT.

SIX E

[6.E RESOLUTION XXX -2025 - Consideration and possible action to adopt a Resolution to approve the sale of an emergency access road easement to Castlerock Communities LLC. (Community Development)]

LLC.

UH, MAYOR.

YES.

AND COUNCIL, THIS ITEM WAS BACK ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE IT WAS ON LAST YEP.

UH, MEETING'S AGENDA.

AND WAS POSTPONED UNTIL THIS MEETING STAFF IS ASKING THAT THE COUNCIL POSTPONE IT.

AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE ANY MOVEMENT, UH, ON THIS ITEM.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

MOVE TO POSTPONE.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? SIX

[6.F Consideration and possible action to direct staff to initiate a text amendment to the Unified Development Code to remove all provisions regarding registration of nonconforming uses or structures. (Townsend)]

CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO INITIATE A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE TO REMOVE ALL PROVISIONS REGARDING REGISTRATION OF NON-CONFORMING USES OF STRUCTURES.

DO I, UH, I GUESS DO WE, WE DO, WE HAVE, UH, MOVE TO OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.

OKAY.

I GOT A MOTION TO OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.

SECOND.

SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

WHAT DO WE GOT? I THOUGHT WE ALREADY ADDRESSED THIS BY SAYING THAT WE WEREN'T GOING TO HAVE A TIME LIMIT ON THOSE REGISTRATION.

THIS IS TO TOTALLY ELIMINATE THE REGISTRATION.

UM, SO FROM MY, WHAT I UNDERSTOOD FROM OUR PREVIOUS CONVERSATION WAS OUR ASKED TO REGISTER HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH COMPLIANCE.

IT'S MORE OF SO THAT THEY HAVE A PAPERWORK, A PAPER TRAIL, SAYING THEY WERE GRANDFATHERED IN AT, AT THIS DATE.

SO THE REGISTRATION IS NOT SO WE CAN PUNISH PEOPLE.

IT'S SO THAT IN 10 YEARS YOU CAN SAY, I WAS CONFORMING AT ONE POINT AND NOW I'M NOT.

BUT I HAVE THIS LETTER THAT SAYS, AND JUST CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S HOW I INTERPRET IT.

IT WASN'T TO, BUT IF, IF I'M WRONG, THAT I WANT TO KNOW N NO, YOU'RE CORRECT, MAYOR.

UH, THAT IS THE, UH, POINT OF THE REGISTRATION OF THE NONCONFORMITIES SO THAT, UH, FOLKS THAT, UH, HAVE A NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURE OR USE CAN REGISTER THEM, UH, I GUESS IN THE PRESENT WHEN MEMORIES ARE FRESH AND EVIDENCE IS FRESH AND NOT HAVE TO BE PUT UPON TO MAYBE MAKE THAT CASE 10 YEARS FROM NOW WHEN AN ISSUE CROPS UP.

AND SO, I THOUGHT WE HAD ADDRESSED IT LAST TIME.

IT WAS ON THE AGENDA, BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND HAD ASKED FOR IT.

IT'S GOT MY NAME ON IT, BUT I KNOW WE'VE DISCUSSED THE UUD C MY PART WAS, UH, OKAY.

SO CHANGING SOME OF THE UUD C THE PROBLEM WITH THIS IS, IS THAT THEY, WITH THE UDC, THEY'VE ALMOST REDONE THE WHOLE TOWN.

SO ALMOST EVERYBODY IN TOWN WOULD HAVE TO COME UP AND FILL OUT A FORM THAT THEIR HOUSE IS NON-CONFORMING.

YOU WOULD HAVE ALMOST EVERYBODY IN THIS TOWN COME UP HERE AND FILL OUT A FORM TO SAY, I HAVE A NON-CONFORMING PROPERTY.

THE WAY THEY REDID THE ZONING UNDER THE UDC.

WELL, UH, THAT'S NOT, YOU CAN'T SAY THAT THAT'S CORRECT BECAUSE I CAN SAY IT'S CORRECT.

ALL, ALL OF US LIVE IN A RESIDENTIAL THAT HAVEN'T BEEN CHANGED.

I GUARANTEE YOU MINE IN YOUR AREA WHERE YOU LIVE, WHERE I WAS BORN AND RAISED MM-HMM .

ALL OF THAT WAS CHANGED.

I KNOW.

BUT IF, IF OUR CHANGED UNDER THE UDC.

SO IN ORDER FOR, IF MY PARENTS WANTED TO DO SOMETHING IN THEIR HOUSE, THEY HAVE TO PROVE THAT THEY LIVED, THAT IT WAS A RESIDENTIAL HOUSE BEFORE THE UDC WENT INTO EFFECT.

SO YOU'RE SAYING BIOS CHINTILLY IS NOT CONSIDERED RESIDENTIAL RIGHT NOW? NO.

MY PARENTS, I SAID WHERE MY PARENTS? CALIFORNIA.

IF CALIFORNIA, IF I MAY MAYOR CALIFORNIA.

WELL, I WAS RAISED ON 40TH STREET.

WELL, NO, NO.

I'M ASKING WHAT CHANGED ALL THAT, WHAT AREA WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BECAUSE, YEAH, SO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT, JUST WHEN YOU SAY THINGS LIKE EVERYBODY IN THE CITY'S GONNA HAVE TO NON-CONFORMING AND ALMOST EVERYBODY IN THE CITY.

AND WHEN YOU GO LOOK AT THE MAP OF WHAT THEY DID WITH THE UDC AND THE WAY THEY CHANGED IT FROM D NEIGHBORHOOD MM-HMM.

UH, NEIGHBORHOODS TO THIS, UH, URBAN OR WHATEVER THEY CALL IT, THAT WE'RE HAVING TO DO ALL THESE ZONING CHANGES ON NOW MM-HMM.

ALMOST EVERYBODY IN THIS TOWN.

CAN YOU PULL THE MAP UP? BUT THAT WOULD HAVE

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SO IF, SO IF I COULD ADD, I GUESS JUST A LITTLE BIT OF COLOR TO THE CONVERSATION, MAYOR, TECHNICALLY A GREAT PORTION OF THE CITY WAS CHANGED ZONING WISE, BUT THAT WAS BECAUSE THE, THE, THE NAMING STRUCTURE WE USED, UH, FOR SOME OF THOSE WAS DIFFERENT.

'CAUSE I THINK WE HAD LIKE, MULTIPLE DIFFERENT DESIGNATIONS.

AND WHEN IT WAS PRESENTED, IT WAS TO, TO NARROW IT DOWN TO LIKE, I THINK 10 OR 12 DIFFERENT DESIGNATIONS.

SO I THINK IN THAT SENSE, YES, UH, A LARGE PORTION OF THE CITY WAS CHANGED.

BUT LIKE COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND IS ALSO BRINGING UP SOME THINGS THAT WERE RESIDENTIAL WERE CHANGED TO AUTOCENTRIC OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AS WELL.

I'M, I'M NOT SAYING THAT, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, 'CAUSE I'VE, I'VE GONE THROUGH IT ALL OF THAT.

YELLOW IS, IS RESIDENTIAL.

YOU ARE IN COMPLIANCE IF YOUR HOUSE IS RESIDENTIAL.

SO IF YOU ARE IN THE YELLOW, YOU DO NOT, WHICH IS ONCE AGAIN, THE MAJORITY OF THE MAP.

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO DO ANYTHING NON-CONFORMING NOW.

SO WHEN YOU SAY THE ENTIRE OR THE MAJORITY OF THE CITY CHANGED? YES, IT DID.

BUT THEY'RE STILL CONFORMING WHAT I SAID.

THEY'RE STILL CONFORMING THOUGH.

THEY'RE NOT NON-CONFORMING.

A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE IN THIS BROWN AREA RIGHT UP HERE IN ALL THIS THAT YOU SEE, WERE RESIDENTIAL HOUSES ARE NON-CONFORMING.

NOW THEY'RE STILL RESIDENTIAL HOUSES.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT DUPLEXES, THEY'RE NOT APARTMENTS.

THEY'RE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

MM-HMM .

AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME UP HERE AND FILE SOME FORM WITH THE, THE CITY.

SO I I I I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOU COUNCIL MEMBER TOWNSEND.

I AM SAYING THAT TO SIT, MAKE A STATEMENT THAT THE ENTIRE CITY OR A LARGE MAJORITY WHEN THAT IS A SMALL PORTION OF THE CITY IS SUBJECT TO HAVE TO DO THIS.

THAT IS A, THAT IS A FALSE SENSE OF NO, I DON'T THINK IT IS.

SO HOW, SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT MY HOUSE ON, ON CAMP ALLEN ROAD, BECAUSE IT CHANGED, IT'S STILL RESIDENTIAL.

I DO NOT HAVE TO FILE A NON-CONFORMING REPORT.

IF IT'S NOT, IF IT'S CHANGED WITH THE UDC, YOU WOULD HAVE TO FILE IF YOU ARE CONFORMING, YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

I I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MENTION THAT THE NON-CONFORMING REGISTRATION IS ONLY REQUIRED FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL USES AND NON-RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES.

SO A RESIDENT IS WHAT I WAS FIXING TO SAY, WHAT IS THE N STAND FOR FOR COMMERCIAL THEN? NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION.

CONSERVATION.

NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION, WHICH MEANS ALL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL IS ALLOWED IN NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION.

CORRECT.

SO IF YOU ARE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, WE CANNOT SAY THAT YOU HAVE TO, YOU'RE OUT OF CONFORMANCE.

YES.

IT CHANGED.

YES.

THE NAME CHANGED, BUT THE CONFORMING DID NOT, SOME OF THIS OVER HERE DID.

SOME OF IT DID.

I'M TELLING YOU WHERE I WAS RAISED.

I'M TALKING THE MAJORITY.

I'M TALKING A YOU SAID THE MAJORITY OF THE CITY, A MAJORITY OF IT DID CHANGE.

THAT'S NOT, YOU SAID THE MAJORITY OF THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO PUT A REPORT IN.

WELL, IF IT CHANGED THE MAJORITY OF THE CITY, IF IT CHANGED, YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO IT.

I CAN ARGUE WITH YOU ALL NIGHT, STAY HERE TILL MIDNIGHT.

I, AND THE, THE THING IS, IS THE POINT IS THE UDC WAS NOT DONE.

RIGHT.

I I GOT THAT.

I COMPLETELY AGREE.

AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS END, OVER END.

BUT TO SAY SOMETHING THAT ALL OF US HAVE TO NOW, UM, ANSWER TO WHEN, WHEN SOMEONE IS WATCHING AND ALL THEY HEAR YOU SAY IS EVERYTHING'S CHANGED, WE ALL GOTTA FILE A REPORT.

REPORT.

I SAID A MAJORITY OF THE STUFF THAT WAS DONE IS NOW, BUT THEY WOULD NOW HAVE TO FILE THAT FORM.

YOU'LL HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING IN HERE DOING PAPERWORK, WHICH IS NOT TRUE.

WHICH THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO IT.

THAT'S THE THE THING, MY MOTHER, MY MOTHER HAS TO PROVE THAT THE HOUSE I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN WAS A HOUSE BUILT IN 1950.

SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO DO THAT IF SHE FILES THE FORM.

SO, HUH.

IF SHE FILES THE FORM, SHE'LL NEVER HAVE TO PROVE THAT.

I UNDERSTAND.

BUT SHE'S GOTTA COME UP HERE AND FILE THE FORM.

OKAY.

WE'RE MAKING PEOPLE DO THINGS THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO.

SO MAYOR.

YEP.

CAN I ASK FOR CLARIFICATION? WE, WE SAID THIS IS FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES.

MY QUESTION WOULD BE IS IF YOUR CURRENT RESIDENT IS IN A NON-COMMERCIAL OR, UH, BUSINESS ZONED AREA, DO YOU HAVE TO FILE THE CONFORMITY OR THE NON-CONFORMITY? SO IF IT IS A NON-RESIDENTIAL USE OR NON-RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE, NO, IT'S NOT REQUIRED TO BE REGISTERED.

IF YOUR RESIDENCE CURRENTLY EXISTS IN A COMMERCIALLY ZONED AREA, DO YOU HAVE TO FILE THE NON-CONFORMANCE? I THINK THAT'S YES.

YOU, WHERE IT'S NOW ZONED COMMERCIAL.

CORRECT.

AND YOU HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT IN THERE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO FILE NON-CONFORMITY FOR IT TO REMAIN A RESIDENCE.

IF YOU WERE TO SELL THAT PROPERTY AND SOMEONE WANTED TO REMODEL THAT HOUSE, THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO IT UNLESS THEY, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO FILE.

IT WOULD JUST HELP YOU IN THE LONG RUN BECAUSE IT WOULD BACK THAT CORRECT.

YOUR HOUSE WAS DAMAGED BEYOND 50.1.

THAT'S CORRECT.

SO, AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO STRESS HERE IS I WANT EVERY CITIZEN TO UNDERSTAND, WE ARE NOT REQUIRING YOU TO FILL THIS OUT.

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO DO THIS TO LIVE IN THE CITY OF DICKINSON.

IT IS TO HELP YOU OUT IN THE LONG RUN.

BECAUSE IF WE DID CHANGE THE ZONE, WE DON'T WANT, YOU HAVE TO BE IMPACTED.

NOW WITH THAT BEING SAID,

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YOU ARE CONFORMING.

SO I WANT EVERY CITIZEN TO UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT THERE IS NOTHING, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET PENALIZED.

YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET A FINE, THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO YOU.

THIS IS YOUR PREROGATIVE.

WE DO NOT HAVE TO DO THIS.

I HAVE A, I HAVE A COMMENT.

YEAH.

UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE AFFECTED DON'T LOOK ONLINE, DON'T LOOK AT A PAPER, THEY'RE NOT GONNA KNOW THEY'RE AFFECTED.

HOW DOES ONE FIND OUT THEY'RE AFFECTED? AND A LOT OF TIMES KNOW THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE TO FI FILE A NON-CONFORMING FORM SO THAT THEY GET GRANDFATHERED IN.

SO I DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE A, A CONCERN AT ALL ABOUT THE LANGUAGE OR THAT REGISTRATION OF NONCONFORMING.

I THINK THAT'S PROTECTIVE.

MY CONCERN IS THAT PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THEY HAVE TO DO THAT.

I UNDERSTAND.

SO HOW, HOW DO WE REACH THOSE PEOPLE? AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF, AND I I, I THINK EVEN THE LANGUAGE AS IT IS, IS MAKE, MAKES SENSE.

MM-HMM .

BUT HOW DO WE AS A CITY DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND MAKE SURE THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE EFFECTIVE UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE AFFECTED AND THAT THEY HAVE A REMEDY.

THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY COMMENTARY ON THE, ON THIS ENTIRE DISCUSSION.

WELL, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB.

THAT WAS NOT DONE WHEN THE UDC WAS FIRST CREATED.

I DON'T THINK THEY DID A GOOD JOB.

CORRECT.

DID ENOUGH JOB TO GET THE COMMUNICATION OUT THERE OF WHAT THE HECK WAS ACTUALLY, 'CAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

RIGHT.

IT DID THE MINIMUM, YEAH, THE MINIMUM, THE REQUIREMENT.

RIGHT.

NOT, NOT WHAT THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE, BUT THE BARE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT LEGALLY.

AND COUNCILMAN THAT IS A GREAT SUGGESTION THAT WE CAN WORK ON IN THE DOWN THE ROAD.

I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE UNDER ANY KIND OF TIME CRUNCH TO GET THAT DONE.

I MEAN, IT'S ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN SEND OUT COMMUNICATIVE TO, TO OUR CITIZENS.

YEAH.

BUT DOESN'T NECESSARILY, I THINK THAT'S A RESPONSIBILITY.

YEAH.

THERE'S NO A, A RESPONSIBILITY.

I AGREE WITH THAT.

YEAH.

THERE'S NO TIMELINE.

THERE'S NOTHING LOST.

IF WE DON'T DO IT, IT'S PROTECTIVE FOR THEM.

UM, SO I, I AGREE THAT WE COULD DO THAT.

I, I THINK THAT THAT COULD COME IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE UDC ADAPTATION OR THE ADAPTIVE CHANGES THAT WE'RE GONNA MAKE IN THE FUTURE WITH SOME OF THE ZONING.

ALL RIGHT.

WHAT OTHER, UH, ANY OTHER THINGS ABOUT THIS, UH, DEAL? YEAH, I'VE GOT ONE MORE QUESTION.

I'VE HAD, UH, I'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ON THIS WITH A FEW PEOPLE AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I WAS GIVEN WAS, UH, OR A STATEMENT SAID THAT COUNCIL COULD NOT ACT ON THAT UDC CHANGE WITHOUT THE FINAL REPORT FROM THE P AND Z AND THEY CAN'T FIND THAT THE P AND Z EVER GAVE A FINAL REPORT TO THE COUNCIL BEFORE THEY ACTED ON IT.

SO, I MEAN, CAN WE GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE RECORDS AND SEE IF WE HAD THAT JUST TO MAKE SURE IT IS LEGAL THE WAY WE DID IT? YES SIR.

OF COURSE.

WE CAN GO BACK.

THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR THE ATTORNEY AND I GUESS THE CITY MANAGER.

SO THANK YOU.

YES, SIR.

SO BY VOTING ON VOTING ON THIS TONIGHT, BECAUSE WE TABLED IT OR POSTPONED IT LAST WEEK OR TWO WEEKS AGO, WHAT ARE WE VOTING THAT WE'RE DOING? THAT'S ACTUALLY MY QUESTION.

.

WE ARE CHANGING IT FROM AUTOCENTRIC COMMERCIAL.

I NO, NO, NO.

THIS IS, NO, THIS IS THE UDC LANGUAGE.

OH, ARE WE BACK? OH YEAH, WE'RE ON THAT ONE.

I'M SO BY BAD.

WE JUST, IT'S LONG DAY MAN.

SO WHERE SIX OH LONG.

YEAH.

NONCONFORMING.

WE'RE MAKING IT MORE LENIENT FOR 'EM TO FILE THE EFFECTIVE WORK THAT THEY WANT TO FILE.

SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE, UH, REMOVING ALL PROVISIONS REGARDING REGISTRATION OF NONCONFORMING USES AND STRUCTURES.

IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE WOULD BE TAKEN AWAY A PROTECTION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE TO CITIZENS THAT COULD ACCO THAT COULD HAPPEN WHEN ALL OF US IN THIS ROOM RIGHT NOW ARE NO LONGER EMPLOYED OR, OR VOLUNTEERING HERE.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

SO 15 OR 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, IT COULD BE PROBLEMATIC AND WE MISSED THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A DATABASE THAT WOULD HELP PROTECT THEM.