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          ROLLING. 
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COLIN COKER 
          [1. CALL TO ORDER AND CERTIFICATION OF A QUORUM]
HERE. 
          MATT SABOTEUR HERE. 
          WALTER WILSON. 
          I'M HERE. 
          DEREK CORICK. 
          HERE. 
          CLINTON WILLIAMS. ISRAEL GARCIA HERE. 
          PATRICK'S FEES. 
          HERE WE HAVE CORUM. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          OKAY. 
          MATT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO, UH, DO THE INDICATION AND KICK US OFF WITH THE PLEDGE? YES. 
          DEAR LORD, PLEASE BLESS US OVER THIS MEETING AND GUIDE OUR MINDS AND MAKE, HAVE US MAKE THE RIGHT CALLS. 
          AMEN TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          OKAY. 
          GOOD EVENING EVERYONE 
          [3. STAFF UPDATE]
AT THIS, AT THIS TIME I WOULD REQUEST, UH, KICK US OFF WITH A STAFF UPDATE. 
          CAN YOU GO, UH, GO BACK ONE TO OUR MISSION? SO I JUST WANTED TO, UH, POINT OUT THIS MISSION STATEMENT THAT WE HAD WORKED ON LAST, LAST THURSDAY. 
          UM, MISSION STATEMENT FOR THE EDC BEING TO INCREASE YOUR REVENUE FOR THE CITY AND INCREASE PROPERTY VALUES ACROSS THE CITY. 
          AND IF THERE'S, THAT'S NOT SET IN STONE. 
          SO IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY FEEDBACK, WANNA SHARE, SEND IT ON ANOTHER, YEAH. 
          JUST SLOW, SLOW DOWN. 
          AND SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME. 
          TO INCREASE REVENUE FOR THE CITY. 
          AND THIS, THIS IS OUR MISSION. 
          IT'S OUR MISSION. 
          OKAY. 
          MISSION STATEMENT TO INCREASE REVENUE FOR THE CITY AND INCREASE PROPERTY VALUES ACROSS THE CITY. 
          AND ALSO HELP CREATE PRIMARY JOBS. 
          AND THAT IS PART OF IT AS WELL. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT SHORT. 
          SHORT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          WE HAVE NO, UH, WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO NUMBER FIVE. 
          THE CONSENT AGENDA, THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE CONSIDERED, REACHED MORE, MORE STAFF UPDATES. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          I THOUGHT YOU WERE DONE. 
          I WAS BACKING UP TO THE MISSION STATEMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          , THIS IS THE, THE STAFF UPDATES. 
          THIS IS A, A NEW FORMAT. 
          AGAIN, WE, WE WERE MEETING ABOUT, UM, OUR, OUR MEETING FORMAT LAST THURSDAY, SO WE'RE GONNA TRY TO DRY RUN THIS IT THERE, THERE, IT'S BEEN VERY BUSY, SO THERE'S QUITE A LOT. 
          UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT IS I DID ATTEND THE TEXAS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT LEADERSHIP CONFERENCE. 
          UH, THAT WAS MAJORITY OF LEGISLATIVE UPDATES. 
          NOTHING SUPER NEW AROUND THE THREE EIGHTIES, RIGHT? OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA GO AWAY AT SOME POINT, RIGHT? IT, IT CONTINUES TO BE A FIGHT. 
          UH, A LOT OF THE SESSIONS WERE AROUND SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE SEE ACROSS THE STATE, AROUND OUR WATER DISTRIBUTION AND INFRASTRUCTURE, AS WELL AS OUR POWER AND, AND ELECTRIC IN INFRASTRUCTURES. 
          UH, THE FIRST TIME, WHAT WAS INTERESTING FOR THE FIRST TIME, I HEARD CAUTION, UM, REGARDING THINGS AROUND THE, UH, THE BITCOIN MINING CENTERS AND THE AMOUNT OF POWER, UM, AND, AND, AND RESOURCES THAT THOSE, THOSE TYPES OF FACILITIES ARE, ARE USING, UM, AND CAUSING A DRAIN, UH, IN CERTAIN AREAS ACROSS THE STATE. 
          UM, ANOTHER THING, UH, THAT I FOUND OPTIMAL THAT, UM, IT WAS TWC GRANT OPPORTUNITIES. 
          UM, I HAPPENED TO BE SITTING WITH SOMEBODY FROM THE TWC. 
          UM, HE REPORTED TO ME THAT THEY GIVE UPWARDS OF $30 MILLION THAT THEY RETURN TO THE STATE, UH, VIA UNUSED GRANTS. 
          THESE GRANTS GO TO EDCS ACROSS THE STATE, ALTHOUGH WE DON'T ACTUALLY RECEIVE THE FUNDS. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE SORT OF A VESSEL, IF YOU WILL, FOR THESE FUNDS TO GO TO THE ISD, UH, AS WELL AS FOR, IN OUR CASE, UM, COLLEGE OF THE MAINLAND. 
          UM, SO TALKED WITH HIM ABOUT, UM, GETTING CONNECTED WITH OUR REGIONAL REP AND LOOKING AT SOME OF THE, UM, UH, PROGRAMS WITH, WITH DICKINSON, ISD AND COLLEGE OF THE MAINLAND. 
          UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SPECIFICALLY KIND OF CAME UP WAS AROUND THE CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION CENTER. 
          ONCE THAT'S BUILT, UM, THERE ARE PROGRAMS OR GRANT OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH US THAT, UM, COULD MAYBE, UH, PROVIDE A LOT OF, OF THE, UM, UM, FURNITURE AND FIXTURES AND EQUIPMENT FOR, FOR THE, FOR THAT EFFORT. 
          SO, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'RE GONNA FOLLOW UP WITH THEM AND DIG INTO THAT A LITTLE DEEPER. 
          ALRIGHT, EXCELLENT. 
          UM, BUDGET, UH, BUDGET REVIEW. 
          UH, IT'S BUDGET SEASON. 
          UM, SO I'VE BEEN, UH, BEFORE YOU GO YES, SIR. 
          WHAT DO YOU NEED A POINT OF CONTACT FROM THE ISDY? 
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YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE'S YOUR MAN RIGHT THERE. 
          OH, I, I CAN GET YOU A POINT OF CONTACT. 
          HOW ABOUT THAT? I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT MAYBE YOU COULD . 
          UM, SO, UM, IT IS BUDGET SEASON. 
          SO WE, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, LOOKING AT OUR BUDGET, UM, REALLY GOING THROUGH IT, TRYING TO FOCUS ON MAKING KIND OF PRUDENT DECISIONS, UM, BUDGET REDUCTIONS WHERE IT MADE SENSE. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD A BUDGET LINE ITEM FOR A PARTICULAR PROGRAM AND, AND WE DIDN'T USE ALL OF IT OR, OR DIDN'T USE MUCH OF IT, IT MADE SENSE TO, TO REDUCE THOSE. 
          UM, THERE WILL BE A BUDGET. 
          YOU HAVE THE BUDGETS WITH YOU TONIGHT. 
          I KNOW THERE'S AN, AN AGENDA ITEM, SO IT WON'T GO TOO MUCH INTO THIS, BUT, UM, THERE IS A BUDGET WORKSHOP SLATED FOR LATER THIS MONTH. 
          UM, KROGER BACKFILL TENANTS. 
          JUST AN UPDATE ON THAT. 
          UM, WE CONTINUE TO GET CONTACTED BY MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA, UM, HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER SO FAR. 
          SOME OF THE PO POTENTIAL TENANTS THAT, THAT HAVE NOT WORKED OUT. 
          FEEDBACK GIVEN WAS TECH WORK ON 45. 
          UM, NEIGHBORING BUSINESS PRESENTS AN ISSUE FOR CERTAIN TYPE OF TENANTS THAT, THAT MIGHT WANT TO, THAT, THAT COULD HAVE POTENTIALLY MOVED IN THERE. 
          UH, ONE POTENTIAL TENANT DID WANT A FAIRLY LARGE INCENTIVE. 
          UH, THIS BODY NEVER HEARD TO IT. 
          'CAUSE THE ROI SIMPLY DID NOT MAKE SENSE TO GIVE A A A, WHAT THEY WANTED WAS A SEVEN FIGURE CASH INCENTIVE FOR A BUSINESS THAT WAS GONNA GENERATE 15 TO $20,000 IN, IN, IN SALES TAX REVENUE. 
          SO, I, I, I, I MADE THE EXECUTIVE DECISION TO NOT BRING THAT FORWARD. 
          UM, THIS MORNING I WAS WITH, UH, LEAGUE CITY REGIONAL, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SESSION. 
          SO THIS IS PART OF THEIR STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          UH, WE HAD DIS DISCUSSIONS WITH HERDA AT BAY. 
          A, UH, MEMBERS OF SANTA FE, TEXAS CITY, KEA, AS WELL AS AREA DEVELOPERS WERE THERE. 
          UH, IT WAS, I'M NOT GONNA GO NOTE FOR NOTE, BUT VALUABLE FEEDBACK WAS GIVEN BY A LOT OF THE DEVELOPERS, UH, AND HERDA REGARDING SORT OF THE REGIONAL CITIES ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES AND SORT OF WHAT SOME OF THESE ENTITIES FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN, THE FEEDBACK THAT THEY'VE GOTTEN, UH, REGARDING OUR, OUR AREA INCENTIVES AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS. . 
          UH, SO, UM, QUITE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, CONSIDER THE SOURCE. 
          IT IS THE DEVELOPERS, RIGHT? UM, I THINK THERE ARE SOME FAIR POINTS OF ONE THAT WE DON'T USE THE INCENTIVES ENOUGH THAT THEY'RE NOT HEAVY ENOUGH. 
          AND WHEN I SAY THEY'RE NOT HEAVY ENOUGH, THEY, THEY DID CAVEAT THAT WITH NOT HEAVY ENOUGH CONSIDERING OUR THEME OF FLOODPLAIN ISSUES, RIGHT? SO, SO THE AMOUNT THAT YOU NEED TO BUILD UP AND PUT INTO A SITE IS A CHALLENGE FOR THE DEVELOPERS VERSUS THE INCENTIVE PACKAGES THAT THAT, THAT ARE OFFERED IN RETURN, UH, TO, TO KIND OF BOTTOM LINE. 
          AND THERE WERE SOME, UH, THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS, YOU KNOW, THAT I THINK WERE GEARED TOWARDS CERTAIN CITIES. 
          UM, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT WAS THE, A BROAD, UM, FEEDBACK THAT WAS APPLICABLE TO EVERYBODY IN ATTENDANCE. 
          WAS THERE ANY, UM, WERE, WERE THERE ANY COMMENTS THAT WERE FROM EITHER THE REAL ESTATE COMMUNITY OR THE DEVELOPERS ON WHAT, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT CITIES CAN DO TO HELP? UH, YES. 
          THERE, THERE, THERE WAS, UH, THAT'S ACTUALLY, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS, AND, AND IT SORT OF DOVETAILED ON, UH, I ATTENDED, UH, AN EVENT WITH, WITH COSTAR LAST, LAST WEEK AS WELL. 
          UM, IT WAS HAVING THE LAND READY. 
          UM, SO FOR US, I THINK THE WAY THAT WE'VE DONE IT IS JUST ASSEMBLING THE VARIOUS PARCELS TO GET THE ONE BIG LANDMASS PUT TOGETHER. 
          UM, SOME OTHERS HAVE TAKEN THAT A STEP FURTHER. 
          THEY ACTUALLY, UH, SHARED IN FAIRLY DECENT DETAIL HOW, UM, SOME OTHER AREAS, UH, AROUND HOUSTON HAVE ACTUALLY MADE SITES, PAT, WHAT THEY CALL PAD READY FOR A DEVELOPER, MEANING THEY HAVE PRED DUG THE DETENTION, RIGHT? SO THE DETENTION REQUIREMENTS FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, AMAZON OR WHOEVER'S GONNA COME IN, IT'S ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF. 
          UH, THEY'VE ALREADY RUN THE UTILITIES FOR THE SITES. 
          THEY'VE, THEY'VE MAPPED OUT ALL THOSE SITES. 
          THEY'VE DONE THE RE PLATTING, UM, AND REALLY TRULY MADE THEM, AS THEY CALLED IT, PAD READY. 
          SO ANY DEVELOPER COULD COME IN AND JUST DROP THEIR BUILDING. 
          UM, SO FOR US, THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING. 
          I MEAN, I'M SURE YOU KNOW, THE CITIES THAT THEY, THEY USE AS AN EXAMPLE, HAD A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF, UH, OF FINANCIAL RESOURCES TO, TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          UM, SO THIS WAS SORT OF A, A, A VERY GRAND VISION. 
          UM, SO WHAT, WHAT I WILL BE LOOKING TO DO IS TAKE ALL 
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THE, THE EXAMPLES THAT I HEARD AND WATER THEM DOWN INTO SOLUTIONS AND PACKAGES THAT THAT MIGHT BE, THAT ARE REALISTIC FOR DICKINSON, RIGHT? AND, AND THINGS THAT WE COULD DO. 
          YOU KNOW, WE ARE NOT GONNA, YOU KNOW, TAKE ON $30 MILLION OF DEBT TO TRY TO MAKE EVERY PIECE OF PROPERTY DEVELOPER READY, LIKE, LIKE SOMEONE ELSE DID. 
          BUT HOW DO WE TAKE THAT INFORMATION, DISTILL IT DOWN INTO, TO REALISTIC PACKAGES FOR OUR AREA? ? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THAT WAS REALLY WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK IS JUST HOW, HOW CAN WE GET THAT DOWN TO SOME, SOME LESSONS LEARNED AND PRACTICAL THINGS WE CAN DO OURSELVES? YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD INITIATIVE. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, ELS UPDATE. 
          SO, UH, WE'VE BEEN HELPING TO FINALIZE THE PERMITS, WORK THROUGH ALL THE REMAINING ISSUES WITH OUR PERMITTING DEPARTMENT, WITH WIC, UH, WITH WICKED. 
          UM, UM, FINALLY GOT THE PERMITS FINALIZED LAST THURSDAY, FORMALLY ISSUED TODAY, UH, ELS IMMEDIATELY TO BEGIN WORK ON THE SITE. 
          THEY HAVE GOT THEIR, THEIR PLUMBING FOLKS, AND THEY'RE GONNA START PUTTING STUFF IN THE GROUND TOMORROW MORNING. 
          UM, SO GETTING THIS, THIS BACK ON TRACK, UM, THIS IS THE FIRST OF TWO PERMITS. 
          THE NEXT PERMIT WILL BE THEIR TENANT FINISH OUT PERMIT. 
          UM, BUT HOPEFULLY SOME OF YOU HAVE, HAVE, HAVE DRIVEN BY, YOU'VE SEEN AN ADDITIONAL WALL COME DOWN, YOU'VE SEEN SOME PAINT ON, ON, ON, ON, UH, SOME, SOME PAINT GO UP. 
          UM, YOU'RE GONNA START TO SEE A LOT MORE ACTION. 
          UM, THE ONE THING THAT SCOTT CAUTIONED ME ON, IF WE DO SEE A DELAY, HE IS CONCERNED JUST ABOUT STEEL PACKAGES, UM, LAGGING, UH, AS FAR AS THEIR DELIVERY TIMES. 
          BUT HE'S GOT EVERYTHING ORDERED. 
          HE'S GOT ALL, ALL OF HIS SUBS ARE SELECTED AND THEY'RE GETTING MOBILIZED. 
          THAT'S GREAT NEWS. 
          ANY, ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. 
          UH, WATER STREET PARKING GARAGE. 
          SO, LINCO HELD THE PRECONSTRUCTION. 
          I'M SORRY, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE PRIOR SLIDE? CAN YOU STATE FOR THE RECORD, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE PICTURES THAT ARE BEING SEEN HERE? MM-HMM . 
          WHAT DOES SCOTT PLAN FOR THAT BUILDING? UM, UH, AS FAR, I MEAN, I, I, HE'S GONNA PUT NEW WALL, A NEW, NEW FACADE. 
          YOU MEAN LIKE, ACROSS ALL THIS ACTIVITIES? IS HE GONNA OH, THIS PART. 
          BUILD A RESTAURANT? YEAH. 
          SORRY, THIS PARTICULAR, SORRY, THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING. 
          THIS IS GONNA BE THE HEADQUARTERS BUILDING. 
          UM, SO, SO THIS, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, UH, WAS THE FORMER GYMNASIUM, RIGHT? THIS WILL ACTUALLY BE A TWO STORY, UH, OFFICE BUILDING. 
          UM, SO HE'S, AND HOW MANY EMPLOYEES DOES HE PLAN ON BRINGING? UH, I BELIEVE THE FIRST WAVE IS 23 TO 25, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY. 
          AND THOSE WILL ALL BE ON THE FIRST FLOOR. 
          UH, THE SECOND STORY, UM, IS INITIALLY GONNA BE USED FOR STORAGE, UH, AND THEN FUTURE GROWTH. 
          UH, SO, UM, I KNOW HE PLAN, HE HAS PLANS, UH, I BELIEVE IT'S IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS TO FIVE OR SIX YEARS TO BE UP TO 35. 
          I, I BELIEVE IS THE NUMBER STICKING IN MY HEAD. 
          UM, BUT HE HAS ACTUALLY GOT, I BELIEVE HE'S GOT GROWTH AVAILABLE FOR LIKE 40, 45. 
          UM, SO HE'S, HE DEFINITELY PLANS TO BE HERE LONG. 
          LIKE THIS IS HIS KIND OF FOREVER HOME FOR THE ORGANIZATION. 
          UH, AND HE'S BUILDING IT OUT NOW FOR THE GROWTH THAT HE REASONABLY THINKS HE CAN HAVE IN THE, IN THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, 10, 15, 20 YEARS. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, SO, UH, UH, FLINTCO HELD THEIR PRECONSTRUCTION MEETING ON THURSDAY, ALONG WITH ALL THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CITY, THE EDA. 
          UM, WE HAVE A, UH, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE HAVE A AUGUST 1ST CONSTRUCTION START DATE. 
          UH, I HAVE A FOLLOW UP MEETING WITH OUR GRANT ADMINISTRATORS, FLINTCO, KIMLEY HORN AND KIMLEY HORN, UH, THIS WEDNESDAY TO START LOOKING AT ALL THE, ALL THE PLANS, SPECIFICALLY EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA START ORDERING ALL THE MATERIALS AND ALL THAT. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA START GOING THROUGH MATERIAL REVIEW, AND THEY'RE GONNA START ISSUING THE PACKAGES AND BUYING ALL THE MATERIALS. 
          WE'VE GOT A GOOD, UH, AREA FOR LAY DOWN. 
          SO PRE-ORDERING AND PRE-ORDERING THESE AS MUCH, AS MUCH, SORRY, PRE-ORDERING, AS MUCH MATERIAL AS WE CAN NOW WILL BE MORE COST EFFECTIVE FOR THE PROJECT. 
          SO THAT'S THE NEXT STEPS ON THAT. 
          SO VERY EXCITED TO GET THAT FINALLY UP AND OFF THE GROUND. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, ALLIANCE RESIDENTIAL, I MET WITH THESE FOLKS, UM, LAST FRIDAY. 
          UM, THEY ARE THE, UM, THE MULTI-FAMILY PIECE OF THE PARKVIEW DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS BRAD ELMORE'S PROJECT. 
          CAN YOU, CAN YOU BACK UP A LITTLE BIT AND TALK IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ABOUT THAT DEVELOPMENT, SPECIFICALLY WHERE IT'S LOCATED? SURE. 
          MIXED USE, REAL RETAIL, THE MULTIFAMILY, THE PARK 
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ON THE WATER. 
          SO THIS, THIS IS THE, UH, PART OF THIS IS, IS THE OLD SEARS BUILDING ON, ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN, RIGHT OFF OF FIVE 17. 
          UM, THIS RUNS UP 6 46. 
          THE RESIDENTIAL PIECE IS SORT OF BEHIND THE, THE WALGREENS. 
          UM, UM, SO THAT IS A, A MULTI-USE FACILITY. 
          UM, THAT WILL BE A DETENTION POND IN THE BACK THAT WILL BE TREE LINED. 
          IT'S ABOUT ROUGHLY FIVE ACRES. 
          SO WALKING TRAIL THAT WILL BE ACCESSIBLE TO, TO THE PUBLIC. 
          UM, UH, IT'S 300 PLUS RESIDENTIAL UNITS, HIGHER END, UM, LUXURY APARTMENT STYLE. 
          SO TARGET, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE, WHEN YOU'VE ALL HEARD ME SORT OF TALK ABOUT THE, THE NUMBERS OF DICKINSON, UM, THE INCOME LEVELS THAT ARE TARGETED TO BE ABLE TO, TO RENT HERE IS GONNA BE 110,000. 
          SO THAT'S STARTING TO PUSH UP OUR, OUR MEDIAN INCOME NUMBERS FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE, AS WELL AS HELP CURRENTLY IS WHAT RENT AROUND 9 1 9 180 9,000. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UM, A AS WELL AS PUSH OUR POPULATION NUMBER UP. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE MAGIC 25,000 NUMBER. 
          SO WITH THE NUMBER OF UNITS HERE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD REASONABLY EXPECT, YOU KNOW, POPULATION INCREASE OF 700 IN THE 700 RANGE. 
          THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CRITICISM THAT HAS BEEN STATED ABOUT THE EC FOR LACK OF, UH, THINGS HAPPENING, IF YOU WILL. 
          CAN YOU, CAN YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, WHY, WHY THIS PROJECT HAS TAKEN SO LONG? OH, YEAH. 
          UM, SO ONE OF THE FOLKS THAT, THAT WAS THERE, UM, UH, WITH ALLIANCE ON ON FRIDAY WAS THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. 
          UH, AND THEY CLEARLY OUTLINED, UM, THAT, THAT THE DELAY WAS, WAS STRICTLY BASED ON THE INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENT. 
          AND THEN IT WASN'T UNTIL THE INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENT WAS GETTING BACK IN LINE, UM, THAT THE PROJECT, UH, MADE SENSE FOR THEM TO MOVE FORWARD ON. 
          IT WAS, AND AGAIN, ALLIANCE IS THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT PART OF THAT MULTIFAMILY PIECE. 
          SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE BUYING THAT PIECE FROM BRAD. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN THEY ARE BUILDING. 
          SO, SO THEY ARE A VERY LARGE CORPORATION ACROSS, ACROSS THE US. 
          UM, AND THEY ARE BUILDING THIS FACILITY AND WILL OWN AND MANAGE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO IT, IT, ALL THE DOLLARS GOING INTO THIS PART OF THE PROJECT IS THIS ORGANIZATION. 
          SO THAT'S AN INTERESTING PIECE. 
          SO HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF A A, A PROJECT THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME. 
          IT STARTED EVEN BEFORE, UM, I BECAME ACTIVE IN THE EDC. 
          SO THIS IS FOUR OR FIVE YEARS, UH, PRIOR. 
          UM, AND IT'S TAKEN QUITE SOME TIME TO COME TO FRUITION. 
          UM, A BIG PIECE, IF I CAN RECALL, THE DELAY ALSO WAS TDOT YES. 
          THE TT. 
          UM, AND, AND IN TALKING WITH THEM, THAT WAS, THAT WAS MORE ON BRAD'S PART OF THE RETAIL, UH, FRONTAGE. 
          UM, AND THAT IS STILL STILL ONGOING. 
          UM, SO HE, AND PART OF THAT, PART OF THAT WAS TO GET A LIGHT PUT IN AT THE CORNER OF BASE GUY AND FIVE 17. 
          CORRECT. 
          THE TRAFFIC LIGHT, THE TURN LANE, THE DESIGN FOR THE TURN LANE. 
          UM, SO THAT HAS GOOD 'CAUSE THAT'S, THERE'S, THERE'S A STREET TO, UM, THAT DOES AFFECT THIS PART OF IT, UM, THAT, THAT WILL ACCESS THIS PARTICULAR, UH, DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. 
          SO ONE MAY, ONE MAY ASK A QUESTION, WHY HAVEN'T THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO, TO AT LEAST START A PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT? WHY DOES IT, YOU KNOW, HAVE TO WAIT ON, LET'S SAY THE MULTIFAMILY PIECE. 
          WHY CAN'T THE MIXED USE MIXED USE RETAIL ON THAT FRONT UP ON FIVE 17? WHY COULDN'T THAT HAPPEN EARLY? BIG PART OF THAT IS, BUT THAT, THAT IS THE TDOT THAT'S THE TDOT ISSUE ELEMENT TO IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, BUT THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF A DEVELOPER WHO'S HAD A BROAD APPROACH ON MULTIFAMILY. 
          THERE'S ALSO A PARK THAT'S PLANNED TO BE BUILT DOWN ON THE WATER. 
          MM-HMM . 
          ON DICKINSON BAYOU, A NATURE TRAIL, A SECOND ENTRANCE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS BASICALLY DEADLOCKED INTO ONE ENTRANCE FROM A A FAILED. 
          THEY'RE ACTUALLY GONNA DO A STREET OKAY. 
          TO, FROM THAT NEIGHBORHOOD STRAIGHT OUT TO 6 46. 
          BUT THE MAIN REASON DRIVING WHY THE MIXED USE RETAIL COULDN'T HAVE BEEN STARTED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. 
          NOT ONLY HAS THE INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENT BEEN DIFFICULT TO JUSTIFY, THERE'S TDOT ISSUES WITH REGARDS TO PUTTING A LIGHT THERE FIRST TO MAKE SURE THAT HE KNOWS HOW TO DEVELOP THE MIX, USE RETAIL AND THE ENTRY IN, IN THERE ACCORDINGLY. 
          CORRECT. 
          CORRECT. 
          I, I WOULD, I WOULD MAYBE EVEN TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF A STEP FURTHER, UH, UH, UM, AND, AND SAY THERE'S ALSO A LITTLE BIT OF A CHICKEN AND EGG, RIGHT? SO THE RETAIL SIDE WANTS THE PEOPLE, RIGHT. 
          THEY WANT THE PEOPLE THERE, UM, TO REALLY GET THE, GET THE RETAIL SIDE, THE APARTMENTS, THE APARTMENT. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, GETTING BACK TO THE DRAW, AND I'LL MENTION THIS BECAUSE A LITTLE BIT LATER ON, WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THIS, RIGHT. 
          BUT THIS, THIS HAS BEEN A COMPLEX, UH, DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT'S A, IT'S A REALLY GOOD ONE. 
          'CAUSE IT'S GOT ALL THE 
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ELEMENTS THAT MAKE A SUCCESSFUL IMPACT ON THE CITY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THAT'S NOT A BRAGGING POINT. 
          THAT IS JUST A, A STATED FACT. 
          IF YOU ARE IN THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND YOU HAVE MIXED USE RETAIL, YOU HAVE AN ASPECT OF YOUR DEVELOPMENT THAT GIVES BACK TO THE COMMUNITY WITH WALKING TRAILS AND PARKS. 
          UM, YOU'RE ABLE TO INFLUENCE TXDOT TO PUT A, A LIGHT MM-HMM . 
          ENTERING INTO YOUR FACILITY, IF YOU WILL. 
          UH, AND MULTIFAMILY UPWARDS OF 300 RESIDENTS WITH A HIGHER INCOME LEVEL THAN OUR AVERAGE INCOME LEVEL IN OUR CITY. 
          SO IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THOSE PIECES, YES, IT'S TAKEN SOME TIME. 
          UM, BUT IT'S A VERY GOOD PROJECT IN THOSE EITHER LISTENING OR THAT HAVE COMMENTS AFTERWARDS. 
          I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU IF YOU HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS TO PLEASE REACH OUT TO ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS OR DAVID, UM, UH, AND WE CAN ANSWER THOSE ACCORDINGLY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO IN, IN THAT, IN YOUR DISCUSSION THOUGH, SO, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THESE ARE A LIST OF, OF, OF THINGS, RIGHT? SOME, SOME HELP WITH PERMITTING THE TREE PLAN QUESTIONS ON DETENTION. 
          UM, BUT SO, SO WHAT'S THE ACTUAL STATUS OF IT? ARE THEY, ARE THEY GETTING READY TO, SO THEY'RE, RIGHT NOW, THEIR MAIN, HONESTLY THEIR MAIN HANGUP RIGHT NOW, UM, WE ARE STILL LOOKING FOR, HOPING FOR A GROUND BREAK IN THE FALL. 
          UM, THEY ARE GONNA CONNECT ME WITH SOME OF THEIR CONSTRUCTION SIDE PEOPLE, BUT THE MAIN DESIGN HANGUP RIGHT NOW IS ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THE TREE PLANT. 
          UM, SO THAT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY SEEM, YOU KNOW, VERY UPFRONT, UH, ABOUT AT THE STATE. 
          YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT'S PRETTY DIFFICULT TO ACHIEVE THIS. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE RIGHT TREE COUNTS. 
          UM, THEY MAY BE, THEY'RE GONNA, THEY, THEY WERE ASKING FOR POTENTIALLY A VARIANCE OR WHAT THAT WE, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT WITH THEM. 
          SO ACTUALLY, CAN, CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT TREE COUNT MEANS? SO, UM, IT'S, IT'S THE, THE NUMBER OF THE, OF TREES LOCATED ON, ON THE SITE, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK A FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL REQUIREMENT AROUND THIS. 
          LIKE, WE WANT TO KEEP OUR AREA GREEN CLEAN OXYGEN, YOU KNOW, VERY ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY. 
          IT'S AROUND THE BAYOU, RIGHT? WE WANT TO KEEP THAT, THAT NATURE FEEL THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          UM, AND THAT'S NOT THE EDC, THAT'S THE CITY. 
          THAT'S THE CITY, CORRECT? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT PLAN, UM, AND, AND THAT'S ALSO PART OF THE, THE NEW UDC, RIGHT? SO THIS PROPERTY WAS PURCHASED BEFORE THAT AS WELL. 
          UM, SO LOOKING AT HOW DO, HOW DO WE FIND A SOLUTION FOR THIS? UH, AS IT STANDS NOW, ONE OF THEIR CHALLENGES IS, WELL, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE TO ADHERE IT, ADHERE TO THIS, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, ONE, IT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA HURT THE, THE OUTLOOK OF THE PROJECT, POSSIBLY THE AMENITIES OF THE PROJECT, RIGHT? SO WE'RE GONNA LOSE PROPERTY VALUES FROM THE CITY PERSPECTIVE, RIGHT? 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAYBE GET, GET RID OF A BUILDING. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND TO SIMPLIFY THIS WHOLE THING IS THAT IN ORDER TO BUILD A PROPERTY FOR 300 RESIDENTS, YOU GOTTA TAKE DOWN SOME TREES. 
          GOT. 
          AND SO THE QUESTION IS, HOW ARE YOU GONNA REPLACE THOSE TREES? HOW DO YOU REPLACE THOSE TREES TO THE EXTENT, SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME CREATIVE WAYS AND SOME OTHER PROJECTS TO MAYBE SORT OF OFFSET FROM A HOLISTIC CITY VANTAGE POINT, BUT THERE COULD BE SOME AT SOME POINT WHERE THEY APPROACH THE CITY AND ASK FOR A VARIANCE. 
          VERY LIKELY, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, MONTEREY HOUSE, UH, MONTEREY, LITTLE MEXICO, UM, FOR THOSE THAT THAT DON'T KNOW, UH, MONTEREY WENT INTO BANKRUPTCY. 
          THEY WERE PUR PURCHASED BY CASINO HOSPITALITY. 
          UM, WE HAD BEEN TALKING WITH CASINO HOSPITALITY. 
          THEY WERE LOOKING AT, UM, WAYS TO USE A DMD INCENTIVE THAT HAD BEEN GIVEN TO THE, THE PER THE, THE FRANCHISEE. 
          UM, I RECEIVED A CALL, UH, AS WE WERE RESEARCHING THIS. 
          UM, I THOUGHT I'D GIVEN THEM GOOD NEWS. 
          UH, RECEIVED A CALL THURSDAY EVENING SAYING THAT THEY'RE CLOSING THE DOORS, PERIOD, THAT THEY HAVE DECIDED TO JUST SHUTTER THE SHUTTER, THE RESTAURANT. 
          UM, THEY CITED DECLINING SALES AND SOME OTHER CHALLENGES, UH, THOSE CHALLENGES SPECIFY WERE FACADE BUILDING ISSUES, UH, AS WELL AS LEASE DEMANDS OF, OF THE LANDLORD AT THAT PARTICULAR SITE. 
          UM, THAT'S THE BAD NEWS. 
          UM, THE GOOD NEWS WITH THEM IS HAVING BEEN ABLE TO SPEAK WITH THEM FOR A WEEK OR TWO BEFORE THIS HAPPENING, UM, THEY ARE ACTUALLY BRINGING THEIR EXECUTIVE TEAM DOWN TO MEET WITH ME ON WEDNESDAY. 
          UM, THEY WANNA TALK ABOUT OTHER SITES AND, UM, FOR A DIFFERENT CHAIN OF RESTAURANTS THAT THEY HAVE. 
          SO, UH, SOUNDS TO ME LIKE IT'S MORE LIKE A QDOBA 
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OR CHIPOTLE TYPE SETUP. 
          UM, AND THEY WANT TO, THEY WANNA SCOUT SOME LOCATIONS. 
          UM, UM, SO SOME BRAD ELMORE'S LOCATION AS AN EXAMPLE, UH, THEY WANNA LOOK AT OUR DOWNTOWN LOCATIONS HERE. 
          UM, SOME OF THE ELS PROPERTIES, UH, AND THEN I'M GONNA TAKE THEM OUT TO THE EAST SIDE, UM, ON, ON TWO POTENTIAL PROJECTS OUT THERE. 
          UM, SO THEY ARE, THE GOOD NEWS, THEY, THEY WERE BULLISH ON, ON DICKINSON IN GENERAL. 
          THEY, THEY DO WANT TO HAVE A STORE HERE, UM, UH, ENOUGH TO SEND THEIR ENTOURAGE DOWN. 
          SO, UH, I BELIEVE THE ONE GENTLEMAN I KNOW IS COMING. 
          I BELIEVE HE'S BASED OUTTA NEW JERSEY, SO, OKAY. 
          AND THE, WE DID HAVE AN AGREEMENT. 
          THE EDC DID HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH MARJORIE, THE OWNER, UH, THE EDCS AGREEMENT IS ON GATORS. 
          UM, THE DMD HAD AN AGREEMENT FOR MONTEREY LOW MEXICO. 
          UM, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS NONE OF THAT MONEY HAS BEEN ACCESSED TO DATE. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO THIS, THIS GOT ME THINKING ABOUT KIND OF SOME RESTAURANT TRENDS IN GENERAL. 
          UM, SO I WENT IN, UM, TO, UH, ONE OF THE SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE HERE JUST TO LOOK SPECIFICALLY AT, AT OUR, UM, AT, AT OUR RESTAURANTS. 
          AND THESE ARE, ARE TYPICALLY YOUR SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS. 
          SO THIS IS OUR RETAIL FOOD SECTOR TREND. 
          UH, I JUST WANNA POINT OUT THAT THAT IS A, A VERY CLEAR, DECLINING LINE. 
          UM, A LOT OF THE BUSINESSES CITE THAT CURRENT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. 
          IN FACT, I BELIEVE OUR, OUR BOARD PRESIDENT SHARED SOME FEEDBACK WITH ME THAT HE RECEIVED LAST WEEK, UH, HAVING DINNER AT A RESTAURANT HERE. 
          UM, WHICH HONESTLY, WHAT SHE, WHAT THAT OWNER TOLD YOU FALLS RIGHT IN LINE WITH THE, THE, THE, WHAT THE DAD IS TELLING US AS WELL. 
          UM, YEAH, I MEAN, I'LL, I'LL STATE THAT. 
          I WENT TO, UH, TJ REED'S, UM, HAD DINNER THERE LAST NIGHT. 
          UM, IT'S A GREAT RESTAURANT. 
          DAVE ACTUALLY COMBINED ANOTHER RESTAURANT THAT WAS IN THE SAME CENTER CALLED FLIPPERS. 
          SO IT'S TJ REED FLIPPERS. 
          UM, GREAT OWNER, ACTIVE, ALWAYS HAS GREAT WEIGHT STAFF, UH, HIRES, YOU KNOW, UM, YOUNG, YOUNG, SHARP, YOU KNOW, YOUTHFUL, UM, WEIGHT STAFF. 
          ALWAYS ANXIOUS TO, TO HELP. 
          BUT I GOT THERE AT FIVE 30 AND THERE WASN'T A SINGLE CAR IN THE PARKING LOT, WHICH WAS SURPRISING. 
          UM, 'CAUSE THEY DO HAVE A GREAT PRODUCT. 
          UM, AND THEN WHEN I ASKED THE OWNER, I SAID, HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE THINGS GOING? I WAS KIND OF SURPRISED. 
          SHE SAID, THEIR BUSINESS IS DOWN 60%. 
          AND SHE SAID, UH, THEIR FIR THEY NOTICED THE FIRST DECLINE WHEN THE MEDIANS WERE PUT IN. 
          NOW, I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT I, I BUY THAT A WHOLE BUNCH 'CAUSE IT, IT, IT, IT'S EASY TO TURN INTO THE, THE CENTER. 
          UM, BUT SHE SAID THE, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, WHEN IT STARTED ON I 45 THERE AT THE BRIDGE, SHE SAID, THAT'S REALLY CAUSED A LOT OF PEOPLE TO STAY AWAY FROM THAT. 
          MM-HMM. 
          UM, AND THEREFORE, IF YOU STAY AWAY FROM IT, YOU'RE NOT COMING OFF AND TURNING LEFT AND GOING TO THE WEST PART OF THE TOWN. 
          SO IT'S AFFECTED HER. 
          UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT SHE'S DOING IS SHE STARTED, UM, HER SON STARTED A SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGN FOR BRUNCH THAT THEY STARTED SERVING ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS FROM 11 TO TWO. 
          SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO HELP SUPPORT THESE LOCAL BUSINESSES. 
          LOS RAMIRO, WHICH IS ALSO A MEXICAN RESTAURANT IN THAT SAME CENTER, IS ALWAYS PACKED EVERY NIGHT. 
          AND THEIR BUSINESS IS ALSO OFF. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S 60% TO THE DEGREE THAT TJ REED'S GROUP IS. 
          UM, BUT IT IS, THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG IMPACT ON A RESTAURANT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          HAVING 60% OF YOUR SALES DOWN. 
          HUGE. 
          YEAH. 
          DAVID, SO BASED OFF OF THE DATA, RIGHT, THAT IT DOESN'T LIE, CAN YOU GO BACK AND EXTRAPOLATE FROM THE DATA WHAT MILESTONES, WHAT INCIDENTS, WHAT EVENTS OCCURRED? BECAUSE YOU SEE A SIGNIFICANT DROP BETWEEN APPEARS NOVEMBER, DECEMBER OF 24 AND JANUARY OF FEBRUARY OF 25, AND THEN A SHARP DECLINE BETWEEN FEBRUARY AND APRIL. 
          SO I WOULD PROBABLY ENCOURAGE THE STAFF TO LOOK AT THAT AND FIND OUT WHAT IS GOING ON THAT IS CAUSING THAT, AND IS THERE A DOMINO EFFECT, WHETHER IT'S MEDIANS, WHETHER IT'S ECONOMY, WHETHER IT'S KROGER CLOSING, WHO KNOWS WHAT IS IT? SO I WOULD, I WOULD POINT OUT THAT, UM, THERE WAS ADMINISTRATION, ADMINISTRATION CHANGE IN JANUARY, UH, AND YOU SEE A SHARP DECLINE, RIGHT? WHEN THE TARIFFS WERE FIRST BEING IMPLEMENTED. 
          AND, AND THAT HAS BEEN ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS SIMPLY IMPACTED SMALL BUSINESSES. 
          PEOPLE WORRIED, TIGHTENING 
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THEIR POCKETBOOK, NOT GOING OUT AS MUCH PEOPLE. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN IT'S JUST, IT'S BEEN A TREND. 
          UM, I THINK IT, IT, IT SCREAMS ON THIS CHART, BUT YOU HEAR ABOUT IT IN OTHER BUSINESSES AS WELL. 
          UM, BUT IF YOU ALSO OR STATE OR LOCAL, YES, SIR. 
          THAT IS DICK. 
          THAT IS THE CITY OF DICKINSON. 
          THAT'S THE CITY OF DICKINSON. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT THE COST OF, OF GOODS IN, IN A RESTAURANT TOO, THE PRICE OF EVERYTHING THAT, UH, LIKE A HAMBURGER'S A GOOD EXAMPLE, UH, OF WHAT IT WAS COSTING BACK IN 23 AND WHAT IT COST NOW FOR THE SAME HAMBURGER. 
          UH, AND I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF INFLATION. 
          BUT I MEAN, IT'S LIKE THE PRICE OF BEEF IS A GOOD EXAMPLE, HAS NOT REALLY CAME DOWN. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN STEADILY AT, AT A, A STEADY PACE. 
          AND I'M, I'M USING THAT AS A, AS AN EXAMPLE. 
          THE THING ABOUT, UH, THE MONTEREY HOUSE, I THINK ONE OF THE HARDEST THINGS ON THE MONTEREY HOUSE IS THE FACT THAT THE EXIT TO DICKINSON, YOU KNOW, IS SO FAR DOWN THE ROAD. 
          AND THEN WHEN YOU FINALLY GET TO DICKINSON AND EXIT, YOU'RE PAST MONTEREY HOUSE. 
          SO I BELIEVE THAT HAS AN IM IMPACT ON THAT, ON THOSE BUSINESSES AT FIVE 17 AT THE FREEWAY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          YOU KNOW, SO, I MEAN, I THINK HE CAN, I THINK HE DID A LOT OF THINGS, BUT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, A LOT OF BUSINESSES ARE OFF. 
          I'M, I'M TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW, THE, UM, THE, UM, FOLKS FOR MONTEREY HOUSE, UM, TOLD ME THAT THEIR, THAT THAT RESTAURANT USED TO BE PRE HARVEY ONE, 1.3 TO 1.5 EVERY YEAR, LIKE CLOCKWORK. 
          YEAH. 
          THEY'RE SHUTTERING IT NOW IN THE 650,000 RANGE. 
          THAT WAS ALSO BEFORE THEY STARTED TEARING UP THAT OVERPASS AND STUFF AND SHUT THOSE EXITS DOWN RIGHT THERE. 
          CORRECT. 
          CORRECT. 
          YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY, I MEAN, I, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS ABSOLUTELY ON THE MARK. 
          ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT? SO, ROLLING OUTTA THAT, THAT, THAT THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE JUST SAW, UM, KIND OF TALKING WITH, WITH KAITLYN ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT, THAT WE CAN DO? UM, I ACTUALLY, I THINK COUNCILMAN SCHICK MIGHT HAVE SOME, SOME INPUT ON THIS AS WELL FOR US. 
          BUT, UM, SO TO COMBAT SOME OF THIS LOSS, WE WANNA START REACHING OUT TO SOME OF THE, THESE RESTAURANTS. 
          WE HAD TRIED TO REACH OUT SORT OF THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA, THROUGH THE INTERNET, THROUGH EMAILS THAT, THAT WE FOUND. 
          I THINK WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO START WALKING IN, UH, TO SOME OF THESE FOLKS AND, AND GETTING THEIR INFORMATION. 
          I THINK TJ RES IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW WE CAN HELP PROMOTE THEIR BRUNCHES, RIGHT? UM, USE OUR SOCIAL MEDIA BOOST, OUR SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS, UM, RESHARE IT FROM THE CITY WEBSITES, FROM OUR ANIMAL SHELTER WEBSITES, FROM OUR LIBRARY, UM, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES THAT HAVE VERY LARGE LOCAL FOLLOWINGS. 
          UM, SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO TO GET OUT AND TRY TO HELP SOME OF THESE BUSINESSES, UM, BE PROMOTED. 
          YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING FROM PROMOTING, YOU KNOW, SHOP LOCALLY, YOU KNOW, UM, EAT LOCALLY, UM, GET THE WORD OUT ON THEIR SPECIALS. 
          UM, SO THAT BROADER, UM, I'M GONNA HAND IT OVER TO KAITLYN. 
          'CAUSE THE BROADER EFFORT, UH, WAS SOMETHING THAT SHE WAS WORKING ON WITH GOTMAN, UH, SCHICK, WHO'S IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT, UM, UH, AROUND THE BUSINESS NETWORK CONCEPT. 
          UM, SO THE BUSINESS NETWORK CONCEPT THAT COUNCILMAN SCHICK AND I, UH, CAME UP WITH WAS TO BASICALLY HAVE, UM, A PACKET THAT I WOULD SEND OUT TO EACH INDIVIDUAL BUSINESS IN TOWN, UM, WHETHER IT BE A RESTAURANT, A SERVICE-BASED BUSINESS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          UM, AND THEY, IT WOULD ASK THEM QUESTIONS KIND OF ABOUT, UM, WHAT THEIR GOALS ARE, UM, IN TERMS OF GROWTH AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          AND, UM, THEY WOULD ANSWER, RETURN IT TO ME, AND THEN I WOULD WORK WITH THEM TO MAKE A PLAN, SO LIKE A SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGN PLAN, UM, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          AND THEY WOULD GET, UM, LIKE A LITTLE DICKINSON BUSINESS NETWORK OR DICKINSON EDC BUSINESS NETWORK STICKER. 
          UM, SO NOT REALLY LIKE A CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, BUT KIND OF THE SAME IDEA. 
          UM, AND COUNCILMAN SCH AND I ACTUALLY WENT AROUND TO A COUPLE BUSINESSES, UM, I DON'T KNOW, THREE MONTHS AGO, MAYBE 4, 3 4. 
          UM, AND KIND OF TALKED ABOUT IT TOGETHER. 
          SO THAT WAS, THAT'S THE BROADER EFFORT, UM, THAT THIS ENCOMPASSES AND AT ZERO COST TO THE YEP. 
          ENTREPRENEURS COMPLETELY FREE. 
          I WONDER IF THERE'S A WAY WE COULD DO MORE OF A, LIKE A, A COMMUNITY SURVEY, LIKE A, AMONGST THE DICKINSON RESIDENTS TO SAY, TO REALLY KIND OF TRY TO QUANTIFY WHAT, WHAT THE PROBLEM IS BECAUSE, UM, IF WE CAN GET SOME FEEDBACK THAT SAYS, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE. 
          WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT JOB, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THIS STUFF IS AND WE'RE PULLING BACK OR IT'S JUST INCONVENIENT AND WE CAN'T GET THERE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THAT STUFF IS. 
          BUT IF THERE'S A WAY WE COULD START TO GET SOME DIRECT FEEDBACK SO WE CAN MAKE SURE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, REALLY TARGETING THE, THE ACTUAL PROBLEM MM-HMM . 
          THAT WOULD, THAT, THAT, THAT COULD BE USEFUL. 
          I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD DO IT, BUT VERY 
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GOOD IDEA. 
          YEAH, I THINK THAT'D BE GREAT TO GET SOME FEEDBACK. 
          I, I, I THINK WE DO HAVE ENOUGH FOLKS, UH, AS FAR AS THE ANECDOTES. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT THAT'S CERTAINLY A CHALLENGE, BUT GETTING SOME OF, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S THE, HEY, IT'S JUST TOO EXPENSIVE OR, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT THIS OR YEAH. 
          TJS DOWN 60%, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S A LOT. 
          THAT'S DEFINITIVE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO NOW THAT IS A LOT. 
          SEE IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHY LITTLE RAMIREZ IS, IS APPARENTLY THE, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE COMING IN ISN'T, IS ROUGHLY THE SAME, BUT THE REVENUE APPEARS TO BE DOWN. 
          UH, I DON'T KNOW, I DUNNO WHAT THE STORY IS WITH GATORS, BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE IF WE CAN START TO KIND OF, AND, AND IF IT'S AN AREA OF TOWN, LIKE, LIKE THAT'S A, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT A, THOSE PLACES AREN'T FAR FROM EACH OTHER. 
          SO MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING SPECIFIC ABOUT THAT AREA OF TOWN THAT'S DOING IT. 
          MAYBE IT'S AN ECONOMIC PROBLEM. 
          WE JUST, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE REALLY, I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK HISTORICALLY AT THE DATA, THOSE RESTAURANTS WERE ALL DOING PRETTY WELL. 
          LET'S, LET'S WALK DOWN THIS PATH FOR A MINUTE. 
          SO THE IDEA'S A GOOD IDEA. 
          HOW WOULD YOU GO ABOUT GETTING INPUT FROM A SURVEY TO, TO EITHER DICKINSON RESIDENTS OR PEOPLE WHO SHOP IN SPORT DICKINSON RESTAURANTS? UH, IT'D BE DIFFICULT TO, TO MAP OUT THE FOLKS THAT SHOP HERE, RIGHT? UM, WE COULD CERTAINLY PUSH IT OUT, PROBABLY SOCIAL MEDIA THROUGH THE CITY, YOU KNOW, OURS AND THE CITIES, AND TRY TO SOLICIT FEEDBACK. 
          WE'VE DONE THIS A COUPLE TIMES. 
          HOW MUCH RESPONSE DO WE, UH, WAIT, WHAT COULD BE KIND OF GOING BACK TO THE NETWORK IDEA, THE, THE BUSINESSES COULD ACTUALLY HELP SPONSOR THE SURVEY AND, YOU KNOW, DO A RAFFLE OR A DRAWING FOR PEOPLE WHO ANSWER THE SURVEY AND, YOU KNOW, SEND IT OUT MASS MAIL TO EVERYBODY AND THEY CAN GO ONLINE AND WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE SPOT FOR 'EM TO GO, LIKE A GIFT CARD TO MARAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          I MEAN, I, I I, I, I THINK WE NEED TO GET THE NETWORK GOING BECAUSE I THINK THE BUSINESSES WILL WANT TO KNOW. 
          YEAH. 
          TO YOUR POINT, THEY MIGHT HELP PROMOTE THE SURVEY. 
          RIGHT? CAN I, I'D LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING. 
          IN HEALTHCARE, WE HAVE A CAMPAIGN CALLED STOP THE BLEED, AND IT'S ESSENTIALLY PUT A TOURNIQUET ON STOP THAT BLEEDING, RIGHT? MM-HMM . 
          I AM NEW TO A LOT OF CITY GOVERNANCE, YOU KNOW, OTHER GOVERNANCE, BUT CITY GOVERNANCE AND DEDC AND ALL OF THIS IS STILL SOMETHING I'M LEARNING. 
          WHAT CAN THE EDC DO TO HELP STOP THE BLEED TO SMALL BUSINESSES? WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE LARGE CORPORATIONS THAT HAVE YET TO COME, PROBABLY ON THEIR WAY, BUT YET TO COME MM-HMM . 
          AND IF SMALL BUSINESSES ARE THE BACKBONE OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THEY ARE A TAX BASE FOR US, WHAT CAN WE DO BEYOND THE BUSINESS NETWORK? WHICH I THINK IS A FANTASTIC IDEA, BY THE WAY. 
          I REALLY DO. 
          BUT WHAT CAN WE DO AS AN EDC TO HELP STOP THE BLEED? WELL, WE'RE OVER 20,000. 
          SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, CITIES EDCS UNDER 20 WOULD, COULD JUST POTENTIALLY GIVE GRANTS TO HELP KEEP THEM AFLOAT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE. 
          EVEN IF WE WERE TO COME UP WITH, WELL, WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU A BRIDGE LOAN OR, OR, OR LOANS TO SOME OF THESE BUSINESSES BECAUSE WHO'S TO SAY WHETHER IT'S AN ECONOMIC PROBLEM, A SHORT TERM ECONOMIC PROBLEM, OR A FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM WITH THAT PARTICULAR BUSINESS, A QUALITY PRODUCT? YEAH. 
          SO, UM, SO I, I THINK SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO ARE, ARE, LIKE, SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE LATER ON IS, IS HELP IMPROVE, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S AN ACCESSIBILITY ISSUE TO A SITE, WE'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO PROJECTS AND HELP THE ACCESSIBILITY TO THAT SITE. 
          UM, IF IT'S, UM, UM, JUST KIND OF GETTING THE WORD OUT, HELPING TO PROMOTE THEIR SPECIALS AND THEIR, AND THEIR, THEIR BUSINESSES. 
          WE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN LEVERAGE OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS AND, AND OUR MARKETING CAPABILITIES, UM, UH, TO PUSH THAT FORWARD. 
          YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS WHERE THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, LIKE AN INFRASTRUCTURE OR LIKE, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE NOT GETTING, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE WIFI AT OUR SITE 'CAUSE IT DOESN'T RUN DOWN THERE. 
          WELL THEN THAT'S AN INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEM THAT WE COULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT. 
          SO IT SORT OF, KIND OF DEPENDS ON WHAT THE, HERE'S AN IDEA. 
          UM, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW, SINCE DICKINSON DOES NOT HAVE A CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, A LOT OF RETENTION EFFORTS DO FALL BACK ON EDC THAT TO ASSIST. 
          UM, BUT INSTEAD OF FORGET LOAN GRANTS, THINGS THAT ARE SLIPPERY SLOPES, NOT, NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD REALLY NORMALLY DO, BUT WHAT ABOUT ASSISTANCE WITH ADVERTISING? SO FOR EXAMPLE, NORTHBOUND TRAFFIC ON I 45, YOU GOTTA GET OFF ON DICKINSON PRETTY EARLY. 
          THERE'S A BILLBOARD ON THE RIGHT. 
          IT'S A RIGHT HAND READER COMING NORTHBOUND RIGHT BEFORE YOU GET OFF DICKINSON. 
          KIND OF LIKE BETWEEN THE BUCKY'S EXIT AND DICKINSON THAT'S RIGHT THERE. 
          IT'S A BIG ONE. 
          MM-HMM . 
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KEVIN EDMONDS I THINK USED IT TO CAMPAIGN ON WHAT ABOUT COORDINATING ALL THE RESTAURANTS? FOR EXAMPLE, GATORS DO A COORDINATED EVENT, UH, UH, DEAL WHERE YOU HAD GATORS, YOU HAD TJ REED'S FLIPPERS AND LOS RAMIREZ, FOR EXAMPLE. 
          YOU DO A THREE MONTH LEASE ON A BILLBOARD IF YOU CAN FIND THAT IT'S AVAILABLE AND YOU SAY EXIT NOW. 
          TJ REEDS GATORS MM-HMM . 
          WE'VE GOT YOU COVERED FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR NEXT MEAL EXIT NOW KIND OF THING. 
          THAT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT WOULD BE SMART MONEY SPENT TO DO SOME ADVERTISING. 
          YEP. 
          NAME SPECIFIC DRIVE TRAFFIC TO GET OFF WHERE YOU NEED 'EM TO GET OFF. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND THAT COULD BE, THAT COULD BE A TEST CASE. 
          SO LET'S SAY WE ALLOCATE, I DON'T KNOW, WHATEVER DOLLAR AMOUNT TOWARDS THAT CAMPAIGN FOR A THREE MONTH PERIOD MM-HMM . 
          TEST THE RESULTS, SEE HOW IT DOES, SEE IF IT MAKES AN IMPACT. 
          AND IT, IT HELPS FROM A LEARNING PERSPECTIVE IF WE CAN IMPLEMENT THOSE TYPE OF SCENARIOS IN THE FUTURE. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK, AND THE OTHER THING IS, WHAT WE CAN DO IS ENCOURAGE IF, IF IT IS FINANCIALLY, UH, BENEFICIAL AND THEY'RE IN A FINANCIAL POSITION TO DO THIS, MAYBE EVEN DURING A CAMPAIGN, CALL IT THREE MONTHS, 90 DAYS, WHATEVER YOU WANNA DO IT FOR RESIDENTS THAT COME IN TO THOSE BUSINESSES ARE OFFERED A A PERCENT OFF THAT COULD HELP DRIVE MORE REVENUE IN. 
          YOU COULD EVEN HAVE A DISCOUNT CODE ON THE BILLBOARD AND IF THEY USE IT ON THE BILLBOARD, YOU KNOW, SO WHILE I AGREE TRACTION, IT'S, IT WOULD BE MUCH BENEFICIAL TO GIVE THEM SOME DOLLARS AND SAY, HEY, HERE'S A LIFELINE. 
          YOU KNOW, HAVE AT IT. 
          WE ALSO DON'T KNOW THE PRODUCT. 
          WE DON'T KNOW THE CUSTOMER SERVICE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          WE DON'T KNOW THE INTERNAL INFRASTRUCTURE CHALLENGES THAT THEY ARE FACING. 
          BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS BE A PROMOTER OF BUSINESS MM-HMM . 
          AND ENSURE THAT OUR MISSION IS SOMETHING WE ARE ACTUALLY PUSHING AND SUPPORTING AS WELL. 
          WHAT'S KIND OF SURPRISING IS EVEN WHEN DICKINSON GETS BACKED UP, YOU KNOW, AT ON AT THE EXIT COMING NORTHBOUND AND YOU WANNA TURN LEFT, YOU GOTTA BE CAREFUL. 
          'CAUSE YOU ALWAYS GOTTA GET IN THE LEFT LANE IF YOU TURN LEFT, BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH IT SAYS YOU CAN TURN LEFT FROM BOTH OF THEM, THE PEOPLE IN THE LEFT LANE GO STRAIGHT ALL THE TIME. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THEY'RE, IT'S TERRIBLE. 
          RIGHT. 
          ALL THE TIME. 
          YEP. 
          BUT IF YOU, I'M IN IT EVERY NIGHT COMING HOME FROM LAMAR. 
          IF YOU PUT A, IF YOU PUT A STOP CLOCK ON IT FROM THE TIME I GET BACKED UP IN TRAFFIC, LET'S SAY IT'S TWO CYCLES ON THE RED LIGHT MM-HMM . 
          THE TIME IT TAKES ME FROM THE STOP POSITION TO CYCLE LIGHTS TO TURN LEFT AND GET TO TJ REEDS, WHICH IS THE FARTHEST ONE, LOS RAMIREZ. 
          MM-HMM. 
          IT'S LESS THAN THREE MINUTES. 
          MM. 
          SO YOU COULD HAVE A CATCHY PHRASE ON THE BILLBOARD THAT SAYS YOUR NEXT MEAL'S WITHIN THREE MINUTES. 
          MM-HMM. 
          WHICH REALLY TAKES AWAY THE THOUGHT PROCESS OF, OH, I DON'T WANNA GET IN THAT TRAFFIC. 
          IT'S GONNA TAKE FOREVER. 
          MEAN, THIS COULD BE A REALLY, UH, A GOOD CREATIVE WAY TO, TO DO A, A TEST BASIS, UM, ON, ON HOW WE CAN EFFECTIVELY, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT BUSINESSES. 
          YEP. 
          WE, WE, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT, AND AND MENTIONED LIKE TRYING TO MAYBE ORGANIZE, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE HOUSTON RESTAURANTS WEEK, LIKE A DICKINSON RESTAURANTS WEEK. 
          HAVE Y'ALL HEARD OF THE BAY AREA FOOD LOVERS FOOD? YES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I WAS THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING. 
          BILL, YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY. 
          WELL, UH, ADVERTISEMENT HELPS ON THESE. 
          MOST OF THESE SMALL FAMILY RESTAURANTS DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY FOR ADVERTISING. 
          THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO ADVERTISE. 
          OBVIOUSLY, IF WE COULD HELP THEM ADVERTISE AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO A COUPON, FIND OUT WHAT THEIR SLOWEST DAY OF THE WEEK IS AND ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GO TO WHATEVER, UH, YOU KNOW, RESTAURANT IT MIGHT BE AND, UH, AND COVER THAT. 
          BUT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT BILLBOARD IS VERY EXPENSIVE. 
          WELL, THAT'S JUST AN IDEA. 
          YEAH. 
          I KNOW. 
          IT COULD BE. 
          IT COULD BE ANY NUMBER. 
          I DO HAVE AN IDEA FOR THAT. 
          AND I THINK YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS AT, AT A CONFERENCE ONE TIME. 
          UH, WHAT LEAGUE CITY HAS, WHAT WEBSTER HAS, THEY HAVE THESE PORTABLE BILLBOARDS THAT YOU CAN DO GRAPHICS ON IT AND YOU CAN ADVERTISE WHATEVER THEY USE IT ON A LOT OF THEIR NON-PROFITS. 
          WE COULD GET ONE OF THOSE THINGS, MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO A RESTAURANT ON TUESDAY AND ADVERTISE TJ RE TJ DON'T FORGET ABOUT TJ RES TUESDAY NIGHT SPECIAL. 
          YOU KNOW, HALF OFF BEER, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THEY WANT TO ADVERTISE ON THERE. 
          THAT IMPRINTS THE BRAIN ON MONDAY THAT HEY, WE, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE A PLACE TO GO ON TUESDAY, BUT ONE OF THE BIGGEST THING, WE ARE ALL SITTING HERE, IT DOESN'T COST US ANYTHING TO, WITH OUR OWN SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM TO PROMOTE THOSE BUSINESSES. 
          I MAKE A POINT WHEN I GO INTO ANY DICKINSON RESTAURANT, GALEN AND I ALWAYS POST, BUT HEY, HAD A GREAT HAMBURGER AT, YOU KNOW, 
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WHATEVER HAD PIZZA AT GEO'S, TRIED THEIR NEW, AND THEN YOU ALWAYS GIVE THEM SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. 
          THEIR BARBECUE PIZZA AT GIOS WAS FABULOUS. 
          WELL, WE GOT TO TALKING ABOUT THAT. 
          SO I CALLED THE GEO'S MANAGER TWO DAYS LATER AND HE GOES, YEAH, MAN, ALL OF A SUDDEN WE GOT PEOPLE COMING HERE AND ORDERING BARBECUE PIZZA. 
          WE DON'T KNOW WHAT CAUSED IT. 
          WELL, I KNOW JUST THE FACT THAT WE MENTIONED IT CAUSED PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT IT. 
          YOU'RE AN INFLUENCER. 
          THAT BILLBOARD IDEA, PUTTING IT ON THE STREET CORNERS, YOU KNOW, WHILE YOU'RE SITTING THERE WAITING IN TRAFFIC, HAVE IT UP THERE FLASHING SOMETHING COMING. 
          YOU KNOW, TJ RES TUESDAY NIGHT SPECIALS UP THERE, IMPRINTS IN THE BRAIN AND THOSE, HOW MUCH DID THOSE COST? THOSE ARE ABOUT $20,000 PERFECTLY LEGAL FOR THE EDC TO INVEST IN THAT. 
          PLUS IT COULD BE USED AROUND TOWN FOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, NON-PROFITS TO ADVERTISE UPCOMING EVENTS THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE. 
          BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING RELATIVELY INEXPENSIVE THAT THE EDC COULD DO. 
          WHEN WE, WHEN KAITLYN AND I WENT AROUND TO THESE BUSINESSES, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM. 
          WE WALKED IN THE DOOR. 
          THE OWNERS WERE A LITTLE HESITANT TO BEGIN WITH, BUT THEN AFTER THEY FOUND OUT WE WERE INTERESTED IN THEIR BUSINESS, THEY STARTED TALKING. 
          AND UH, IT WAS VERY EASY TO ASK THEM, WHAT DO YOU THINK THE HOLDUP IS ON YOUR BUSINESS? WHAT IS YOUR BIGGEST OBSTACLE? THE GUY FROM, WHAT WAS THE WATER PLACE? HE WAS CALLED WATER BOY. 
          YEAH. 
          HOLD US ALL TIME. 
          GOT IT. 
          WELL, I, I DON'T THINK PEOPLE ARE SEEING MY SIGNS AS THEY DRIVE BY OUT THERE. 
          WELL, I'LL BE HONEST, I'VE DRIVEN BY HIS PLACE FOR A YEAR. 
          YOU TALKING ABOUT THE ALKALINE PLACE? YEAH. 
          AND NEVER SAW IT. 
          CAITLYN KNEW ABOUT IT. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW SHE KNEW ABOUT IT. 
          'CAUSE I DRIVE BY IT ALL THE TIME. 
          I I THOUGHT IT WAS A BATTERY FIRST BATTERY. 
          I DID TELL YOU A LONG TIME AGO. 
          YEAH. 
          SO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          AND IT TOOK US, WHAT, MAYBE WE WERE THERE 30 MINUTES MAYBE. 
          YEAH. 
          2030. 
          GOT TO KNOW THE OWNER GAVE 'EM OUR CARDS AND EVERYTHING SAID, WHAT CAN WE DO TO DRIVE PEOPLE TO YOUR BUSINESS? AND THEY WERE ALL FOR THAT DEAL. 
          SO SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS SOME PERSONAL VISITS TO THESE BUSINESSES AND JUST ASK THAT QUESTION. 
          HOW CAN WE DRIVE BUSINESS TO YOU? LEAGUE CITY HAS THIS PROGRAM WHERE THEY ARE DRIVING BUSINESSES VIA, UH, THE FOOD DELIVERY SERVICES. 
          THEY'RE ADVERTISING. 
          UBER EATS IN LEAGUE CITY AND THEY GIVE THEM THE WHOLE LIST OF THE RESTAURANTS IN LEAGUE CITY THAT ON TUESDAY NIGHT YOU GET 20% OFF OF THE CHINESE FOOD OR WHATEVER. 
          THAT WOULD BE SIMPLE FOR US TO DO. 
          CAITLYN'S QUITE CAPABLE OF DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          CAITLIN, YOU GOT THIS PROJECT? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT A GIRL. 
          SO, UH, ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, EVERYBODY CAN HELP ON THIS DEAL. 
          SHE'S DEVELOPING A QUESTIONNAIRE TO FILL OUT ON THERE WHAT KIND OF INFORMATION WE NEED. 
          AND THAT WAY WE CAN, IF THEY'RE A LEGITIMATE DICKINSON BUSINESS, WE CAN PROMOTE THEM WITH OUR HEART. 
          AND THEN ONCE DERRICK GOES AND EATS THERE, HE PUBLISHES, HEY, I HAD A GREAT, YOU KNOW, BARBECUE PIZZA AT CHI'S. 
          ALL OF HIS FRIENDS ARE THINKING, WELL, WHERE AM I GONNA EAT TOMORROW? AND THAT PUTS IT IN THEIR HEAD. 
          I'M REALLY EXCITED. 
          WHAT ABOUT IS, I DIDN'T REALIZE GEO'S HAD BARBECUE PIZZA. 
          NOW I'M, I'M EVERY FRIDAY I'M, I'M, I'M IN. 
          I'M GONNA TELL YOU WHAT, IT, IT REALLY SHOCKED ME. 
          I, I, I KIND OF WAS, I WENT THERE WITH THE, ONE OF MY BEST FRIENDS AND, AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING DOWN, WE EAT THERE ALL THE TIME. 
          WE ARE LOOKING UP DOWN THE MENU AND I WENT, WHAT THE HECK IS THIS? YOU KNOW, BRISKET ON PIZZA WITH DILL PICKLES. 
          SEE, I'VE BEEN GOING THERE SO LONG. 
          I DIDN'T EVEN LOOK AT THE MENU ANYMORE. 
          I GOTTA START LOOKING AT THE MENU . 
          EXACTLY. 
          YEAH. 
          IF I GET BEYOND LASAGNA AND PIZZA, I'M, I'M LOST IN THERE. 
          BUT ANYWAY, THOSE ARE, HE TOLD THE GUY IN THE BARBECUE PLACE. 
          YEAH. 
          BARBECUE. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S WHY HE HAS YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, LET'S, ANYWAY, THOSE SIMPLE IDEAS OF JUST TALKING TO PEOPLE SOMETIMES HELPS. 
          WANNA SWITCH GEARS JUST A LITTLE BIT. 
          YEAH. 
          BROADER EFFORT. 
          THIS LAST BULLET POINT, DO YOU HAVE A, DO YOU PLAN LIKE A, A MEETING OR TOWN HALL EVENT, OR WHAT DO YOU, HOW DO YOU PROMOTING THAT TO KING? I THINK THAT'S A PERSONAL VISIT TO THE BUSINESS AND FIND OUT WHAT WE, WHAT THEY THINK WE COULD DO TO HELP. 
          AND WE CAN OFFER THEM, HEY, WE'LL PUBLICIZE A COUPON, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, UH, SPORTS LITTLE LEAGUE, WHATEVER TEAM, CAN YOU BRING YOUR LITTLE LEAGUE TEAM IN HERE AFTER PRACTICE, WE'LL GIVE YOU 10% OFF. 
          OR THE DRINKS ARE FREE, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE. 
          YOU KNOW, KAILYN, THAT, THAT MIGHT BE AN INTERESTING WAY FOR US TO START THE CAMPAIGN IS TO GET THAT, YOU KNOW, THE LIST OF ALL THE BUSINESSES KIND OF ITEM UP, CREATE A, YOU KNOW, A TEAM OF, YOU KNOW WHAT LIKE 2, 2, 2, 2, UM, BOARD 
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MEMBERS. 
          YOU BILL AND, UM, JUST LIKE, AND JUST CON DIVIDE AND CONQUER. 
          GO ASK THE SAME BASIC QUESTIONS BUT KIND OF COVER OFF EVERYBODY BECAUSE THAT'LL HELP US ALL EDUCATE OURSELVES MM-HMM . 
          AS WELL. 
          AND, AND, AND KIND OF START TO KIND OF START TO BUILD THE NETWORK. 
          SOMETHING, SOMETHING LIKE THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTING. 
          I HAVE A LIST OF EVERY BUSINESSES, SO MAYBE WE CAN START DIVIDING IT UP AND KIND OF, NOT ASSIGNING, BUT PEOPLE CAN KIND OF SIGN UP TO GO AND WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL PUT A DEFINED TIME LINE WHEN WE ALL WANT TO HAVE THIS COMPLETE BUY. 
          WE'LL COME BACK WITH THE FEEDBACK AND THEN THAT COULD HELP INFORM OUR PLAN. 
          AND THEN IF WE COULD, AND THEN IF WE COULD DO SOME COMMUNITY SURVEYS AS WELL, JUST TO KIND OF GET, YOU KNOW, FEEDBACK FROM THE CUSTOMERS MM-HMM . 
          UM, IT COULD BE, COULD BE HELPFUL. 
          THE, UH, THE OTHER THING THAT I HAD A, A BUSINESS OWNER TALK TO ME ABOUT, HE SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'RE A BRICK AND MORTAR STORE AND NOW THE TOWN IS STARTING TO GET COVERED UP WITH FOOD TRUCKS. 
          THAT'S SIPHONING AWAY OUR LOW END CUSTOMER. 
          BUT THAT'S STILL A REAL DEAL. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CHART INCLUDED THE FOOD TRUCKS. 
          THAT CHART DID NOT. 
          NO SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND THEY'RE SIPHONING AWAY A GOOD AMOUNT OF MONEY. 
          WELL, PART, PART OF THAT, WHY THAT CHART ALSO DOES NOT, OR WOULD NOT CAPTURE THE FOOD TRUCKS, IS IT IS VERY DIFFICULT SINCE FOOD TRUCKS ARE, ARE TYPICAL, MOST OF THEM ARE MOBILE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO TRACK AND COLLECT THOSE SALES TAX. 
          WELL IF, UH, IF DICKINSON HAD A FOOD LICENSE FOR A MOBILE FOOD TRUCK, ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS, THE VERY FIRST LINE ITEM IS THAT THEIR BUSINESS MUST BE REGISTERED IN DICKINSON. 
          AND I SUSPECT YOU CAN GO TO ALL THOSE FOOD TRUCKS AND THEY'RE OUT OF WHATEVER CITY THEY'RE OUT OF AND THAT'S WHERE THE TAXES ARE BEING PAID. 
          AND SOME OF 'EM ARE AN ALL CASH BUSINESS, WHICH MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO TRACE THE SALES TAX. 
          BUT WE GOTTA START SOMEWHERE. 
          I MEAN, WE CAN EVEN PROMOTE THE LOCAL FOOD TRUCK IF YOU WANT. 
          SURE, SURE. 
          AS LONG AS THEY ARE REGISTERED BUSINESS IN DICKINSON, TEXAS WHERE WE GET THE TAX REVENUE. 
          I MEAN, WE STILL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SOME OF OUR LONG STANDING BUSINESSES IN DICKINSON THAT HAVE BEEN COLLECTING SALES TAX FOR GENERATIONS ARE STILL REGISTERED IN ANOTHER CITY. 
          AND THAT'S WHY I CANNOT EAT AT SHIPLEY'S DONUTS BECAUSE THEY'RE REGISTERED OUTTA LEAGUE CITY. 
          SO ALL THAT SALES TAX FROM SHIPLEY'S GOES TO THEIR LEAGUE CITY LOCATION. 
          YEAH. 
          ANYWAY, IT'S AN EASY DEAL. 
          IT'LL BE A FUN DEAL. 
          YOU'LL GET TO MEET SOME BUSINESS OWNERS AND, UH, KINLIN AND I ENJOYED IT. 
          WE COULD HAVE SPENT DAYS DOING THE THING. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU BILL. 
          DAVE NEXT. 
          ALRIGHT, UM, JUST THE LAST TWO ITEMS, I PROMISE. 
          UM, KIND OF CONFIDENTIAL ONE. 
          UM, THIS WAS A DEVELOPER THAT HAS PUT A PROPERTY BACK ON THE MARKET DUE TO THE FINANCIALS NOT WORKING. 
          UH, THIS IS, UH, WAS A KIND OF SMALLER MULTI-USE SITE. 
          UM, SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT THEY CITED, UH, THEY HAD A QSR PAD, UM, THAT THEY HAD BEEN UNABLE TO SELL OR GET A TENANT FOR DUE TO THE FEEDBACK THAT THEY'VE GOTTEN. 
          UM, A LACK OF DRAW TO THE AREA. 
          THEY SAID THEY CONTACTED EVERY QSR FROM, YOU KNOW, MCDONALD'S ON DOWN THE LINE, UH, AND JUST COULD NOT GET ANY, ANY INTEREST IN THAT SITE WHATSOEVER. 
          UM, I DID SPEAK WITH THEM ABOUT SOME OF, SOME OF OUR PLANS THAT SEEMED TO MAYBE CHANGE THE GENTLEMAN'S MIND A LITTLE BIT. 
          UH, SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT HE HAD REQUESTED WAS A, A VARIANCE ON THE RESIDENTIAL PIECE. 
          UM, HE PURCHASED THE LAND UNDER ONE SET OF BUILDING STANDARDS, UH, WHICH HAVE NOW CHANGED SINCE THE UDC CAME IN. 
          UH, AND NOT BEING ABLE TO HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF DENSITY ON THE SITE ON THE RESIDENTIAL SITE, SIMPLY THE, THE MATH SIMPLY DOES NOT WORK FOR THEM. 
          UM, AND THEN PART OF THAT IS THEY REQUESTED ASSISTANCE WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE AS HE POINTED OUT. 
          UM, HE NEEDS TO PUT A MILLION DOLLARS INTO THE RETAIL PAD SITE BEFORE HE EVEN POURS A PAD OF CONCRETE. 
          UM, MILLION DOLLARS NEEDS TO GO IN THE GROUND. 
          THAT'S BOTH ON HIS RETAIL SITE. 
          AND PART OF WHY THE CHANGE IN DENSITY ON THE RESIDENTIAL SITE, THE MATH NO LONGER WORKS 'CAUSE OF EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO GO INTO THE GROUND TO BUILD OUR SITES UP. 
          UM, SO I AM IN DISCUSSIONS WITH HIM. 
          I DID CONFIRM HE TRULY DOES HAVE THE LAND, THE PROPERTY IS FOR SALE. 
          UH, I CONFIRMED THAT. 
          UM, SO HE, HE IS ABSOLUTELY TELLING THE TRUTH. 
          I TOLD HIM I WAS GONNA WORK ON LOOK AT TAKING A, A, A LOOK AT AT THE VARIANCE CHANGES. 
          UM, 
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AND THEN, UH, HE SENT ME SOME OF HIS INFORMATION. 
          SO I WILL LOOK AT A POTENTIAL, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, INFRA SOME TYPE OF IN INFRASTRUCTURE INCENTIVE OR SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO. 
          UM, SO OBVIOUSLY THAT ALL OF THAT WILL COME BACK TO THIS, THIS BODY. 
          UH, I NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT JUST TO MAKE SURE IT'S, BUT IF YOU'RE SAYING IT'S A MILLION BUCKS TO PREP THE SITE AND HE DOESN'T HAVE THE BUSINESS HE THOUGHT HE WAS GONNA HAVE. 
          WHAT, WHAT, LIKE, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WOULD WE DO TO TO TO CHANGE THAT? SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE ARE INCENTIVES THAT WE CAN GIVE FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AND THINGS, THINGS THAT WE GOING, BUT, BUT IF HE DOESN'T HAVE THE BUSINESS TO SUPPORT IT LIKE THAT, THAT'S THE PROBLEM. 
          RIGHT. 
          HE IS NOT GONNA HAVE THE REVENUE. 
          WELL, THERE THERE'S MORE. 
          IT'S A MULTIPURPOSE SITE. 
          SO, SO THE, THE QS R IS JUST UNABLE TO GET ANYBODY TO COME IN THERE. 
          THAT'S NOT A SITE ISSUE OR CONSTRUCTION OF THE SITE ISSUE. 
          THAT'S A DRAW ISSUE. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT'S A BUSINESS PROBLEM. 
          THAT THAT'S A LIKE, HEY, UH, WE'RE NOT GONNA PUT A RESTAURANT THERE BECAUSE WHO'S GONNA COME. 
          RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          THAT'S DEREK'S POINT IS NO, REGARDLESS OF WHAT EDZ MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO, IF THE DRAW IS A PROBLEM, THAT'S SOMETHING WE, THAT'S, WE COULDN'T CORRECT THAT. 
          SO, UM, BUT THAT, THAT'S ALSO, HE'S NOT, HE'S, HE'S NOT, HE HASN'T PUT THE RESIDENTIAL IN EITHER. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THERE'S A RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT TOO. 
          SO AGAIN, HE'S AT THE CHICKEN AND THE EGG. 
          WELL, I CAN'T PUT THE RESIDENTIAL IN RIGHT. 
          THAT WOULD OBVIOUSLY GO RIGHT TO THAT RESTAURANT, UH, BECAUSE I CAN'T GET THE RIGHT DENSITY 'CAUSE I GOTTA PUT SO MUCH MONEY IN THE GROUND. 
          SO HE'S JUST CAUGHT IN A, IN A CYCLE. 
          SO, UM, SO WE'VE HAD ONE MEETING. 
          HE ACTUALLY DID SEND ME THE INFORMATION OVER THIS MORNING. 
          SO I GOTTA START PARCELING THROUGH IT AND JUST LOOK AT, DOES, DO THE NUMBERS MAKE SENSE? IS THAT PROJECT WORTH IT? UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT TYPE, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO, WHAT'S THE CURRENT PROPERTY TAX? WHAT WOULD BE THE NEW PROPERTY TAX? WHAT MAKES SENSE? UM, AS FAR AS AN INCENTIVE GOES. 
          SO THAT'S THE, THIS IS MORE OF A VERY EARLY ON. 
          UM, SO JUST, JUST INFORMING THE BOARD THAT, THAT THIS IS GOING ON. 
          YOU'LL, IS THIS PART OF A NAMED PROJECT? THIS IS NOT PART OF A NAMED PROJECT. 
          NO. 
          NEXT ONE. 
          IT DID. 
          LAST ONE, UH, CONFIDENTIAL TWO. 
          UM, WE'VE BEEN CONTACTED BY A COMPANY STATING THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS SOME INCENTIVES. 
          UM, UH, THE, THE, THEY WANT TO CREATE A, A PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT. 
          UM, THIS IS, SORRY, THIS SAYS NEED IS BASED ON A UNDER WELL NEED IS BASED ON UNDERPERFORMANCE OF THE CURRENT LOCATIONS. 
          THEY REQUIRE AN NDA. 
          UH, OUR ATTORNEY HAS REVIEWED THE NDA FOR ME. 
          WE HAVE SEVERAL CHANGES WHICH WE HAVE SENT BACK TO THEM. 
          UM, AGAIN, THIS IS GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT SAYING, OKAY, WHAT IS YOUR NEED? WHAT IS THE, THE, THE PROBLEM THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SOLVE HERE? UM, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S SIMPLY AN UNDERPERFORMANCE OF THE BUSINESS, I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN NECESSARILY HELP YOU THERE. 
          UM, ESPECIALLY LOOKING AT SOME OF THE NUMBERS. 
          SO, UM, AGAIN, THIS RIGHT NOW IS CONFIDENTIAL. 
          I JUST WANTED TO KEEP THE, THE BOARD INFORMED THAT THERE IS, UH, A BUSINESS THAT IS STATING THAT THEY VERY WELL MAY EXIT DICKINSON. 
          UM, AND, YOU KNOW, UN UNLIKE KROGER'S, AT LEAST THEY ARE BRINGING US TO THE TABLE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS, SIR? ALRIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          THIS TIME WE'LL MOVE 
          [5. CONSENT AGENDA]
ON TO NUMBER FIVE, THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE CONSIDERED ROUTINE BY THE DICKINSON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION. 
          THERE WILL NOT BE A SEPARATE DISCUSSION ON THESE ITEMS UNLESS REQUESTED BY A BOARD MEMBER. 
          IN WHICH EVENT, THE ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND DISCUSSED AFTER THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          FIVE A, IT'S CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE MAY, 2025 DEDC FINANCIAL AND INVESTMENT REPORT. 
          FIVE B CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE MAY, 2025 DEDC ACCOUNT STATEMENT FOR TEXAS FIRST BANK AND TEXAS POOL FIVE C CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE JUNE, 2025 MONTHLY ADMINISTRATION SERVICE FEE, TRANSFER REQUEST, AND FIVE D CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE TWO JUNE, 2025 PAYROLL TRANSFER REQUEST. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY MOTIONS ON THE FLOOR? MOVE TO APPROVE. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY MATT. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. 
          SECOND BY WALTER WILSON. 
          ANY DISCUSSION ON ANY OF THESE TOPICS? NO DISCUSSION. 
          WE'LL TAKE IT TO A VOTE. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          ANY NAYS? MOTION PASSES. 
          WE'LL MOVE ON TO 
          [6. OLD BUSINESS]
SECTION SIX, OLD BUSINESS SIX, A CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO AMEND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH WELLNESS FIRST MEDICAL CLINIC. 
          DAVE, YOU WANT TO GIVE A JUST A QUICK, UM, BRIEF ON WHAT TRANSPIRED AT COUNCIL, 
          [01:00:01]
UH, AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO TO APPEAL? UH, CERTAINLY, UM, THIS WAS, UM, VOTED ON AND APPROVED AT, AT OUR LAST BOARD MEETING, UH, AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. 
          THERE WAS A CITY COUNCILMAN, UM, THAT REQUESTED TO TABLE THIS ITEM, UH, ESSENTIALLY WANTING THE, UM, BUSINESS OWNER WHO, WHO DOES OWN THE PROPERTY TO BE A PERSONAL GUARANTOR AS PART OF THIS AGREEMENT, IN ADDITION TO THE BUSINESS, IN ADDITION TO THE BUSINESS. 
          YES. 
          UM, TYPICALLY WE DO NOT ASK FOR THAT. 
          THE, THE, THE LOAN IS GIVEN IS MADE WITH THE BUSINESS. 
          UH, AND THIS, THIS CITY COUNCIL MEMBER REQUESTED THIS, THIS AMENDMENT, UM, UH, WITH THIS PERSON AS A, AS A, AS A PERSONAL GUARANTOR, UH, WE DID TALK TO THE, TO THE PROPERTY OWNER SLASH BUSINESS OWNER. 
          AND, AND SHE, SHE WAS IN AGREEMENT. 
          SHE FEELS THAT HER BUSINESS NEEDS THIS ACCESS WAY, UM, AND WILL HELP PROMOTE HER BUSINESS AND ALLOW HER TO NOT JUST MAINTAIN STAFF, BUT, BUT EXPAND THE SERVICES NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES MOVING FORWARD. 
          UM, AND SHE SIMPLY SAID, IF I NEED TO SIGN TO BE A PERSONAL GUARANTEE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS GETS DONE FOR MY PATIENTS, THEN SHE WAS WILLING TO DO SO. 
          I MOVE TO APPROVE THE AMENDMENT WITH WELLNESS FIRST, MEDICAL CREDIT. 
          YOU HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE THE AMENDED AG, UH, PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT WITH, UH, A MC. 
          IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND. 
          PATRICK WAS SECOND. 
          UH, SIR, IF I MAY, ALSO, UH, IN REVIEWING THE, UH, THE REVISED AGREEMENT THAT THE BOARD HAS IN FRONT OF Y'ALL, UH, WHICH I KIND OF WORKED ON REMOTELY, AND SO THERE WERE A FEW, UH, MINOR CHANGES THAT ACTUALLY I'M LOOKING AT THIS AND I SEE THAT THEY, UH, DID NOT MAKE IT INTO THE AGREEMENT. 
          SO I'D LIKE THE, UM, THE BOARD'S MOTION AND SECOND TO INCORPORATE THESE CHANGES THAT I'M ABOUT TO WALK Y'ALL THROUGH. 
          UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE FIRST PAGE AT THE, IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH, UH, AFTER IT SAYS SANDERS, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT SHOULD BE AN S CORPORATION, NOT A, THAT CHANGE. 
          AND THEN, UH, GOING TO TOWARDS THE BOTTOM, BOTTOM OF THAT FIRST PAGE, THE NEXT TO LAST, WHEREAS CLAUSE AFTER IT STATES, UH, CONSTRUCTING A PAVED DRIVEWAY, IN PARENTHESES, THE PROJECT, UH, I'D LIKE TO ADD THE WORDS ON THE PROPERTY, UH, PAGE TWO AT THE TOP, BECAUSE THIS AGREEMENT IS NOW GOING TO INCLUDE, UH, THE DOCTOR. 
          SO, UM, THAT FIRST SENTENCE AT THE END OF IT SHOULD READ THE DEC SANDERS AND THEN CONTINUES ON WITH AN A MC. 
          AGREE AS FOLLOWS, UH, NO CHANGES ON PAGE 3, 4, 4 ON PAGE FIVE. 
          UNDER, UH, PARAGRAPH FIVE FOR SECTION FIVE ASSIGNABILITY. 
          UH, THIS AGREEMENT SHALL NOT BE ASSIGNED BY A MC OR SANDERS TO ANY OTHER PERSON. 
          SO JUST ADDING OR SANDERS TO THAT, UH, TOPIC OF PAGE SIX, UH, JUST, UH, DR. SANDERS NAME THERE. 
          JUST UNBOLD THAT TO KEEP IT CONSISTENT. 
          AND THEN PAGE SEVEN, UM, BELOW THE SIGNATURE BLOCK FOR DR. SANDERS PA, I WOULD ADD THE, UH, ATTESTATION BLOCK AS WELL SEPARATELY FOR THAT. 
          AND THEN ON PAGE EIGHT, JUST, UH, FILLING OUT THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT'S AT THE BOTTOM OF PAGE EIGHT. 
          UH, TO ADD, YOU KNOW, BY BLANK, THE BLANK OF DR. 
          DON S SANDERS, DCPA, A COMPANY AUTHORIZED TO DO BUSINESS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS FOR AND ON BEHALF OF STATE COMPANY, WHICH JUST TRACKS THE, UH, LANGUAGE THAT WE USE FOR, UH, A MC ON THE NEXT PAGE. 
          UH, JUST THOSE KIND OF HOUSEKEEPING CHANGES. 
          MAYOR WALTER, DO YOU WANNA REVISE YOUR MOTION? MOVE TO, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE, EXCUSE ME, I MOVED TO APPROVE THE AGREEMENT, UH, THE ADMITTED AGREEMENT WITH, UH, WAS IT A MC? YEAH. 
          AS WITH THE PROVISIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED BY, PROVIDED BY THE ATTORNEY, WOULD THAT COVER IT? YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          I'LL SECOND IT. 
          PATRICK. 
          SECONDS. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ONE? OKAY, IF NOT, WE'LL TAKE IT TO A VOTE. 
          ALL THOSE IN, IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE REVISED PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT. 
          THAT WILL INCLUDE NIMS RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'LL MOVE ON TO SECTION 
          [7. NEW BUSINESS]
SEVEN, NEW BUSINESS DISCUSSION REGARDING FFY 2025 THROUGH 2026 BUDGET FOR THE DICKINSON EDC. 
          UM, 
          [01:05:01]
DAVE, DO YOU WANT TO KICK IT OFF BASED ON CERTAINLY. 
          UM, SO, UM, WE, UH, YOU ALL HAVE BEEN PROVIDED THE, THE BUDGET, THE BUDGET WORKSHEET. 
          UM, THIS IS NOT FINAL. 
          THIS IS IN DRAFT FORMAT, SO THIS IS NOT READY FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION. 
          UM, BUT, UH, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW THIS. 
          UM, TALK WITH ME. 
          UH, IF THERE'S ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT YOU WANTED TO TALK, UH, TALK ABOUT IN THIS FORUM, WE CAN CERTAINLY DISCUSS IT THEN OR DISCUSS IT NOW. 
          ANYTHING, ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE THAT COME UP, UM, PLEASE MEET WITH MYSELF DIRECTLY OR, UH, SARAH, SARAH CLARK. 
          UH, SARAH IS HERE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE THIS EVENING AS WELL. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO POINT OUT, WE ARE NOT MAKING A MO A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS BUDGET THIS EVENING. 
          UM, THERE WILL BE A PLANNED, UH, WORKSHOP WITH, THAT INCLUDES CITY COUNCIL, THE DMD, AND THE EEC, ALL OF THOSE BOARDS. 
          I BELIEVE YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED A PLACEHOLDER FOR JULY 22ND, UH, FOR THAT MEETING. 
          SO, UM, AT THAT WORKSHOP, WE WILL, AGAIN, AS, AS THE THREE BODIES, UM, REVIEW, DISCUSS, AND LOOK AT CHANGES AND, AND EDITS TO THESE BUDGETS. 
          UM, I WOULD ASSUME THAT AFTER THAT WORKSHOP ADJUSTMENTS WILL BE MADE, AND THEN AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE THERE, THE, THE FINAL BUDGETS WILL BE PUT FORWARD FOR APPROVAL. 
          SO THAT'S THE PROCESSES I, AS I UNDERSTAND IT RIGHT NOW, SARAH, DID I SUMMARIZE THAT CORRECTLY? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          I, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT OR TWO, AND THEN BILL, I WOULD, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU COME UP AND MAYBE GIVE YOUR OWN OPINION. 
          UM, I HAVE VEHEMENTLY DEFENDED, UH, THE INVESTMENTS THAT THE EDC IS SUPPOSED TO BE MAKING, UH, UNDER THE RULES THAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS INTENDED THE MONEY TO BE INVESTED. 
          AND I, AND I USE THAT, THAT TERM INVESTED CAREFULLY. 
          UM, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR THE PAST 10 TO 15 YEARS, THE EDC UM, PERCENTAGE HAS BEEN CUT FROM A HALF A CENT TO A QUARTER OF A CENT. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL AS BOARD MEMBERS KNEW THAT, BUT MANY YEARS AGO, UM, THERE WERE LEADERS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WANTED TO USE THOSE FUNDS TOWARDS STREET REPAIRS, AND THEY TOOK IT TO A CITIZEN VOTE. 
          THEY CHANGED THE, THE PERCENTAGE DOWN TO A QUARTER OF A CENT. 
          SO OVER THOSE YEARS, UH, THAT QUARTER ASCENT THAT THE EDC LOST, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN INVESTED IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HAS BEEN USED TO, UH, HANDLE ADDITIONAL STREET REPAIR THAT WAS NEEDED. 
          NOW, NOT TO DISCOUNT THE FACT THAT WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF OUR STREETS IN DICKINSON AND BE RESPONSIBLE, THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. 
          WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS IN LIEU OF SPENDING MONEY ON REPAIRS THAT ARE NOT INVESTMENT, AND WITH NO CONSIDERATION FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR A PROJECT THAT'S ATTACHED THAT SUPPORTS LEGISLATIVE RULES, THE WAY THAT THE MONEY SHOULD BE INVESTED AND INTENDED TO DO SO, I HAVE VEHEMENTLY DEFENDED NOT SPENDING MONEY OUTSIDE OF NOT HAVING A PROJECT. 
          HOWEVER, THAT BEING SAID, I HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT, UM, THE, THE SITUATION THAT THE CITY IS IN AND THE BUDGET SHORTFALL AND THE DIFFICULTIES THAT OUR COUNCIL HAS TO MAKE, UM, THE MANEUVERS THAT HAVE BEEN ESPOUSED AS FAR AS GETTING RID OF THE EDC, WHICH THAT'S NOT LEGALLY FEASIBLE BECAUSE WE WERE A PRIVATE CORPORATION AND WE HAVE LONG-TERM OBLIGATIONS, UM, WITH PERFORMANCE AGREEMENTS, AND THEREFORE THE EDC CANNOT CANCEL THOSE AGREEMENTS. 
          HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY IN OUR FUND RIGHT NOW, SOME OF WHICH IS ALREADY COMMITTED. 
          UM, BUT IN SHORT, UM, I'M TRYING TO HUMBLE MYSELF AND I WOULD ASK, UM, TO HAVE SOME INPUT FROM MY PEERS HERE. 
          AND BILL, I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE YOU TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE SINCE YOU ARE ON COUNCIL, AND GIVE US A SENSE OF WHERE THE COUNCIL IS, UH, KIND OF MANEUVERING AND THINKING. 
          BUT PERHAPS WE SHOULD CONSIDER, UM, TRYING TO HELP THE CITY IF OUR MONEY'S SITTING AND, AND WE DON'T HAVE THE CASH FLOW 
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THAT WHERE THE MONEY'S INVESTED AND COMING BACK IN. 
          IT'S JUST SITTING AND WAITING EITHER FOR US TO CLOSE A PROJECT OR, UH, WE'RE HOLDING IT IN RESERVES TO FUND FUTURE EXPECTATIONS AND OBLIGATIONS. 
          I THINK THERE ARE SOME AREAS THAT WE COULD PROBABLY HELP. 
          UH, AS LONG AS THE COUNCIL IS WILLING TO UNDERSTAND THAT IF SOME FUNDS ARE RELEASED, THAT THE COUNCIL ALSO CONTINUES TO SUPPORT OUR CURRENT ENDEAVORS AS FAR AS THE PROPERTY THAT WE'VE ALREADY INVESTED IN. 
          THE PROJECTS THAT WE IN ARE MOVING FORWARD ON, THAT WE EITHER HAVE UNDER CONTRACT, UH, UH, OR A LETTER OF INTENT TO COMPLETE A CONTRACT. 
          UM, BUT I DO THINK THERE'S, THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO TO HELP. 
          AND I THINK WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERATE OF THE FACT OF LET'S TRY TO HELP AND LET'S ALSO ASK COUNSEL TO HELP US BASED ON WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO ACHIEVE AS WELL. 
          WHEN YOU SAY HELP, LIKE A ONE TIME AMENDMENT THIS, THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE'RE GONNA DONATE X NUMBER OF MONEY, BUT WELL, ULTIMATELY WE SERVE THE COUNCIL. 
          BOTTOM LINE IS COUNCIL CAN CLEAR EVERY ONE OF US OFF THE BOARD AND PUT OTHER BOARD MEMBERS THAT WILL HAPPILY ACQUIESCE TO WHATEVER COUNCIL MAY WANT. 
          IS THAT A GOOD THING TO DO FOR THE COMMUNITY? PROBABLY NOT. 
          IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INVESTING IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN LIEU OF FUNDING STREET REPAIR. 
          HOWEVER, UM, THIS IS A UNIQUE TIME THAT WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER. 
          AND I THINK THE EDC AND THE COUNCIL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW THIS CITY THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER. 
          AND THIS IS A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL, ALL OF US TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THAT WE ARE LEADERS AND WE DO KNOW HOW TO WORK TOGETHER. 
          SO WHAT I'M ASKING IS, I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING THAT LET'S TAKE SOME TIME TO HELP EDUCATE OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          FIRST OF ALL, I, FOR ONE, UM, HAVE MADE A COMMITMENT, UH, TO DEREK. 
          DEREK AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE NEED FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF DEREK'S IDEA FOR A COMM, A LONG-TERM COMMUNICATION STRATEGY AND IMPLEMENTATION. 
          UM, BUT I ALSO WANNA REACH OUT TO SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          I HAVE YET TO HAVE ONE-ON-ONE CONVERSATIONS WITH, WHETHER IT'S OVER A CUP OF COFFEE OR LUNCH OR DINNER OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE. 
          BUT TO, I WANNA LISTEN, I WANNA LISTEN TO WHAT THEIR IDEAS ARE. 
          DO THEY HAVE AN ECONOMIC PLAN BEYOND STREET REPAIR? I HAVEN'T HEARD ONE YET, BUT I'M OPEN TO ANY CONSIDERATION THAT THEY MAY HAVE. 
          IF THERE'S NOT A PLAN, LET US HELP THEM UNDERSTAND OUR PLAN THAT WE DO HAVE AND THAT WE ARE EXECUTING ON, AND THAT OUR DEVELOPMENTS HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL, UM, AND THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE. 
          I, I, I JUST, I JUST THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY HERE. 
          SO ALL I'M ASKING IS, SHOULD WE CONSIDER IN FUTURE CONVERSATIONS, UH, PERHAPS A, A BUDGETED LINE ITEM TO WHERE WE TRANSFER SOME AMOUNT, UM, TO THE CITY TO HELP IN ANY, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TOWARDS STREETS. 
          IT COULD BE TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, SALARY INCREASES FOR THE PD. 
          IT COULD BE TOWARDS SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S, THAT'S NEEDED. 
          I'M NOT SAYING EXACTLY WHAT IT MAY BE, BUT I DO THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR HERE, FOR US TO HELP AS LONG AS WE GET SOME HELP IN RETURN. 
          FEMI, I THINK AS, AS CITIZENS AND AS LEADERS, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU'RE ELECTED OR NOT ELECTED, WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE CARE OF THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY, PERIOD. 
          AND I THINK THAT WHEN WE PUT NARRATIVE AND POLITICS ABOVE THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY, WHO SUFFERS MORE THAN ANYBODY, ARE THE TAXPAYERS WHO PAY THE SALARIES OF THOSE WHO ARE TRYING TO MOVE THINGS FORWARD. 
          AND I THINK IN THE SPIRIT OF UNITY, I THINK, THINK IT IS INCUMBENT UPON US TO TAKE THIS REQUEST SERIOUS. 
          AND I WOULD BE IN AGREEMENT SO LONG AS WE DO THINGS IN THE SPIRIT OF UNITY ON BOTH SIDES TO ENSURE THAT THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY ARE TAKEN CARE OF. 
          I LIVE HERE, I PAY TAXES HERE. 
          MY KIDS GO TO SCHOOL HERE. 
          I INTEND ON BEING HERE FOR A VERY LONG TIME. 
          MY FAMILY'S ROOTS RUN DEEP. 
          I'M COMMITTED TO ENSURING THAT WE CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER FOR THE COMMON GOOD OF OUR RESIDENTS. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          EZRA. 
          I CAN TELL YOU THAT ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE HAVING IS THE BOARD IS NOT COMMUNICATING WITH THE COUNCIL. 
          AND I WOULD CHALLENGE Y'ALL TO, TO, UH, GIMME THE LAST TIME 
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Y'ALL SAT DOWN WITH ONE OF THE COUNCILMEN. 
          JUST HAD THAT HEART TO HEART TALK. 
          'CAUSE AS YOU CAN SEE, MOST OF THE COUNCIL DOES NOT MAKE THESE MEETINGS. 
          AND, UH, MOST OF Y'ALL DON'T MAKE THE COUNCIL MEETINGS. 
          SO THERE'S NOT GOOD COMMUNICATION. 
          BUT MAYBE IT'S TIME TO GO TO THE, UH, HAVE A CUP OF COFFEE WITH ONE OF THE COUNCILMEN THAT YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH. 
          AND YOU EXPLAINED TO THAT COUNCILMAN WHAT THE ED C'S DOING AND WHAT THE PLAN IS OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. 
          EDC IS A 10 YEAR DEAL. 
          I'M, I'M GONNA TELL YOU, NOTHING HAPPENS QUICK ON THERE. 
          THE IDEA AND IMPLEMENTATION AND THE FINAL PRODUCT TAKES FOREVER TO DO. 
          UM, THE GOOD NEWS IS YOU'VE GOT, UH, THREE OF THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL USED TO BE ON THE EDC, SO THEY DO HAVE SOME BASIC UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE EDC DOES. 
          SO IT SHOULD BE EASY. 
          SO Y'ALL NEED TO JUST TAKE SOME TIME AND GET TO KNOW YOUR COUNCIL. 
          LET THEM B***H AT YOU. 
          YOU TURN AROUND AND B***H AT THEM, AND THEN Y'ALL COME UP WITH A SOLUTION AS TO HOW WE MOVE FORWARD ON THIS THING. 
          I CAN TELL YOU AS A, UH, AS A COUNCIL, AND THIS IS A TOUGH DEAL. 
          I MEAN, COUNCIL, WE LOVE TO SPEND MONEY. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW, THE ENJOYMENT OF THIS. 
          WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO SPEND, WE'RE, WE ARE FACING, UH, A DEFICIT AROUND THE CITY. 
          AND, UH, WE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THE LIGHTS ON. 
          AND WE'RE STRUGGLING TO FIND THAT THOSE NUMBERS IN THERE. 
          AND I THINK PART OF THE FRUSTRATION WITH SOME OF THE COUNCIL WITH THE EDC IS, IS THEY'RE THINKING THAT, UH, THE EDC DOES NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CITY'S GOING THROUGH. 
          SO WE NEED TO GET PAST THAT. 
          BUT YEAH, I ENCOURAGE ALL OF Y'ALL TO SIT DOWN WITH THE COUNCIL AND JUST HAVE THAT HEART TO HEART TALK WITH THEM. 
          THANK YOU, BILL. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, I DISAGREE WITH YOU ON CERTAIN THAT SOME OF THAT STUFF, BILL. 
          'CAUSE I WAS A COUNCILMAN FOR 15 YEARS. 
          MATTER OF FACT, I WAS THE ONE THAT GOT THE IDEA TO TAKE THE QUARTER SET SALES TAX, TAKE IT TO THE PUBLIC, LET THEM VOTE ON IT, TO DO STREETS NOT TO BE USED FOR BY THE STREET DEPARTMENT TO DO STREETS. 
          SO THE MONEY, THE MONEY IS BEING USED WHERE IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE USED. 
          OKAY? THE CITIZENS VOTED TO DO THIS 'CAUSE THIS IS WHAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE. 
          AND IT WAS VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT THE MONEY COULD BE USED FOR. 
          I REALIZED THINGS HAPPEN AS GOVERNMENTS MOVE FORWARD, AND THIS AS FLOODS AND STORMS HAPPEN, WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT PARTICULAR FUND. 
          SO, I MEAN, AND THIS THING IS VOTED ON EVERY FOUR YEARS BY THE PEOPLE TO KEEP TAKING THAT QUARTER SENATE SALES TAX. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE NEXT VOTE COMES UP, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S NEXT YEAR. 
          I THINK PRETTY CLOSE TO THEN. 
          SO AS FAR AS THE, MY VERY FIRST YEAR IN 2008, THE ECONOMY AND EVERYTHING ELSE WAS IN THE TANK. 
          WE HAD A BIG, BIG DEFICIT. 
          WE BALANCED THAT BUDGET. 
          THERE'S SOME HARD DECISIONS TO MAKE. 
          I MEAN, WE HAD TO, YOU KNOW, HAD CUT BACK ON STAFF AND EVERYTHING ELSE. 
          UM, PEOPLE HAD TO HOLD THEIR, THEIR LINE ON WHETHER IT WAS EVEN NEW EMPLOYEES AND EVERYTHING ELSE. 
          EVERY DEPARTMENT HAD TO DO THAT. 
          SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS, YOU KNOW, UH, I DON'T, I DON'T BUY THIS IDEA THAT THE MEMBERS UP HERE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S, IT'S LIKE FOR THIS. 
          I DISAGREE WITH THAT. 
          I THINK THIS MEMBERS UP HERE, THIS IS AS GOOD OF, THIS IS AS GOOD OF EDC BOARD AS I'VE SEEN, I'VE SEEN 'EM ALL SINCE IT'S STARTED. 
          UH, I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S AN ADMIRABLE IDEA TO, TO TRY TO HELP GOING FORWARD. 
          I REALLY DO. 
          UH, BUT IN THE SAME DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, YOU CANNOT KEEP DOING WHAT'S BEING DONE WRONG WHEN THAT STREET MONEY IS SUPPOSED TO BE SPENT FOR STREETS, NOT FOR PAYING SALARIES AND EVERYTHING ELSE. 
          THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS WRITTEN UP TO BE. 
          UH, I MEAN, I KNOW THIS IS GONNA PROBABLY MAKE SOME OF THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS A LITTLE UPSET, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, MATTER OF FACT, IT WAS MARK TOWNSEND, COUNCILMAN MARK TOWNSEND'S IDEA TO GO AND TAKE THE QUARTERS IN SALES TAX. 
          I WAS JUST THE ONE THAT HELPED GET IT ON THE BALLOT. 
          SO, I MEAN, IT'S, IT, IT CAN BE DONE, BUT I, I BELIEVE THAT TO DO THE, TO COME FORTH WITH THE MONEY. 
          LIKE YOU WERE TALKING, LIKE YOU'RE ASKING CHAIRMAN, IS IT, WE SHOULD SEE WHAT THE SPECIFICS ARE. 
          I'M NOT, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO DIVIDEND, BUT I KNOW THERE'S, I'M PRETTY SURE THERE'S CERTAIN, AND THE ATTORNEY CAN TELL ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE COULD DONATE THE MONEY OR BRING THE MONEY FORWARD TO THAT'S LEGAL AND SOME THINGS THAT MAY NOT BE, IS THAT CORRECT? THE, UM, THE MECHANISM THAT NO, THE MONEY, THE MONEY THAT WE WOULD, THE MONEY THAT WOULD TRANSFER FROM EDC TO COUNCIL CAN ONLY BE DESIGNATED 
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FOR CERTAIN THINGS. 
          CORRECT. 
          UH, THE MECHANISM THAT I'VE IDENTIFIED TO, TO ALLOW THAT TRANSFER DOES NOT HAVE ANY LIMITATIONS REGARDING HOW THAT MONEY NEEDS TO BE USED. 
          WELL, I'M STAND CORRECTED, BUT, YOU KNOW, ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT IT. 
          I, I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA LOSE F FOCUS ON, I THINK, UH, COUNCILMAN SCHICK'S BROADER POINT, WHICH IS AROUND THE, THE, THE, THE, THE, THE COMMUNICATION. 
          SO I THINK, UM, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S A FAIR POINT, RIGHT? THAT, THAT WE HAVEN'T NECESSARILY GOTTEN TOGETHER YET ALIGNED ON GOALS, ALIGNED ON, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, ALIGNED ON THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE. 
          UM, AND IT'S, AND IT'S CLEAR THAT THERE'S A BUDGET DEFICIT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, THAT, THAT THAT'S A THING THAT EXISTS THAT WE CAN'T, UM, THAT WE CAN'T DENY. 
          AND YOU'RE RIGHT, IT, IT REQUIRES TOUGH CHOICES, WHICH COUNCILMAN SCHICK AND THE OTHERS ARE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE. 
          UM, BUT IF THERE'S A WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN WITHOUT COMPROMISING OUR, OUR MISSION AND THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, DO TO PROMOTE THE LONGER TERM ECONOMIC GROWTH, UM, TO KIND OF HELP EASE THAT PAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE, WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT CONSIDERING IT. 
          SO I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, IT DELVES INTO DETAILS. 
          SO WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY IS GONNA BE AN IMPORTANT QUESTION. 
          UM, BUT, BUT THAT'S REALLY, I THINK THE, THE, THE, THE, THE MAIN POINT YOU WERE TRYING TO MAKE IS REALLY AROUND THE, THE COMMUNICATION AND ALIGNMENT. 
          AND THEN FROM THERE, WE CAN START TO GET DOWN TO THE, TO THE DETAILS. 
          BUT I THINK IF WE CAN ALIGN, AND I THINK THAT'S ONE THING WE HAVEN'T NECESSARILY DONE, IS ALIGN ON THE, ON THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES. 
          UM, THE ONE THING I, I DO WONDER, YOU KNOW, WE TOOK THAT QUARTER CENT SALES TAX TO GO TO STREETS MM-HMM . 
          STREET DEPARTMENT, GO TO STREETS, WHATEVER WE DID. 
          UM, THE, THE ONE THING I I'VE BEEN THINKING A LOT ABOUT LATELY IS ON THE LONGER TERM INVESTMENT SIDE, BECAUSE, SO WE CAN COME UP WITH THE SHORT TERM FIX. 
          WE'RE GONNA TAKE THE QUARTER CENT SALES TAX, BUT IT DIDN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM. 
          AND WE'RE SEEING THAT, AND ACTUALLY IT ONLY MAKES SENSE IF THE REVENUES GO UP, BUT THE REVENUES AREN'T GOING UP. 
          THE REVENUES ARE GOING DOWN AND THE REVENUES GO DOWN AND THE COSTS GO UP, WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY HAPPENING. 
          PEOPLE NEED RAISES, MATERIALS GOING UP, THEN, THEN ALL WE'RE DOING IS, IS, IS, IS THE PROBLEM, JUST KEEPS MOVING A YEAR, MAYBE, OR HALF A YEAR. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, THERE HAS TO BE THAT 10 YEAR VIEW OF IF WE DON'T WANT TO BE HERE 10 YEARS FROM NOW HAVING THE SAME DISCUSSION, AND WE WANNA HAVE THE MONEY THAT WE NEED TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE THE ROADS GOOD AND ALL THE REST OF IT, THAT THAT'S THE CONVERSATION WE NEED TO HAVE. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT, THAT'S JUST KIND OF MY, MY, MY THOUGHT ON IT. 
          YOU KNOW, DEREK, I AGREE. 
          I THINK THAT OPPORTUNITIES HERE ARE STRATEGY AND LEADERSHIP, AND I THINK BOTH BOARDS POSSESS BOTH QUALITIES. 
          AND THEN WE JUST NEED TO GET, COME, COME TOGETHER AND LET'S FIGURE THIS OUT TOGETHER. 
          WE ALL, WE ALL LIVE HERE, WE ALL WHAT'S BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITY. 
          SO I AGREE WITH YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          SO, UM, AT THIS POINT, UH, WE'LL MOVE TO SEVEN B UH, CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE A CONTRACT WITH VISIT WIDGET FOR WEBSITE HOSTING SERVICES. 
          KAITLYN, CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHAT WE'VE GOT HERE? YES, I HAVE A PRESENTATION. 
          THANK YOU FOR ALL THE COMMENTS, GENTLEMEN. 
          SO I GUESS I'LL GO BACK. 
          OUR CURRENT, UM, WEBSITE HOSTING COMPANY, E-D-O-I-Q IS DOING AWAY WITH THEIR HOSTING SERVICES. 
          SO OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS, UM, MYSELF, ALONG WITH OUR IT DIRECTOR, MINA, UM, HAVE BEEN EVALUATING A FEW DIFFERENT COMPANIES, UM, IN ORDER TO REPLACE E-D-O-I-Q, UM, I'VE LISTED ALL OF THEM BELOW, UM, THEIR PRICING AND, UM, WHAT IT WOULD BE PER MONTH. 
          AND DID YOU ALSO SEARCH FOR LOCAL BUSINESSES TO HELP WITH THIS? YES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT ARE WE CURRENTLY PAYING NOW FOR E-D-O-I-Q? WELL, IT, IT'S SOMEWHAT CONVOLUTED BECAUSE IT'S PART OF OUR SUBSCRIPTION FOR EDO IQ, WHICH IS OUR, OUR CRM TOOL THAT WE HAD, WHICH WE PAY $5,000 A YEAR CURRENTLY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THIS WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO THAT EXISTING COST? CORRECT. 
          THAT THAT COST IS NOT CHANGING. 
          JUST THE SERVICE, UM, OF PROVIDING THE WEB HOSTING IS GOING AWAY. 
          AND CAN YOU TELL US WHY YOU'RE RECOMMENDING VISIT WIDGET? YES. 
          YEAH, SO THE NEXT COUPLE SLIDES, UM, POINT OUT KEY, YOU KNOW, POINTS AS TO WHY, UM, I'M RECOMMENDING, UM, THE BIGGEST REASON WHY WE ARE RECOMMENDING VISIT WIDGET IS BECAUSE OF THE SECURITY ASPECTS OF IT. 
          UM, THEY OFFER SECURITY ASPECTS THAT THE OTHER THREE JUST DON'T. 
          UM, AND MINA WILL TOUCH ON THAT HERE IN A LITTLE BIT, BUT AS FAR AS, UM, JUST THE 
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PLATFORM ITSELF, THEY'RE VERY EASY TO WORK WITH, UM, IN TERMS OF TRANSFERRING THE CURRENT WEBSITE FROM E-D-O-I-Q OVER TO VISIT WIDGET, AND THEN ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT YOU SEE LISTED HERE, I DON'T WANNA READ THE WHOLE THING, UM, AND OVERWHELM YOU WITH DETAILS, BUT THESE ARE JUST SOME KEY POINTS THAT, UH, I CAME UP WITH AFTER TALKING WITH, UM, STAFF. 
          CAN YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE? MM-HMM . 
          THERE'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE FROM $5,400 SET UP AN $849 A MONTH TO HOSTING, OR WHICH IS 8, 9, 9 A MONTH. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO GO WITH A PLATFORM LIKE HOSTER, YOU'RE WELL, YEAH, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT OKAY. 
          I, I MEAN, IT, IT'S SUCH A VAST VARIANCE MM-HMM . 
          I, I, I JUST DON'T, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE I UNDERSTAND EASY TO WORK WITH. 
          DOESN'T DOESN'T CUT IT FOR ME. 
          I MEAN,  NO, I UNDERSTAND. 
          YEAH, I THINK, I THINK YOU, SO YOU, YOU PROVE A REALLY GOOD POINT. 
          I THINK WHEN EVERYBODY'S LOOKING AT COST, I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A RE A RETURN ON OUR, OUR INVESTMENT. 
          WHAT IS THE VALUE OF OUR INVESTMENT? THAT'S, AND, AND TRUST ME, I, I WORK IN MARCO, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THE, THE IMPORTANCE OF GETTING THE RIGHT PRODUCT, BUT JUST IN THE SALES PITCH PERSPECTIVE, LIKE WHAT ELSE COMES WITH IT? WELL, I GUESS, UH, JUST TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, I'M SURE OUR IT DIRECTORY IS HERE IF WE HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS. 
          UM, BUT THE, UH, UNFORTUNATELY THE, THE TWO LEAST EXPENSIVE OPTIONS DO NOT MEET THE CITY'S, UM, UH, CYBERSECURITY. 
          WELL, THEY'RE NOT EVEN AN OPTION IS SO YEAH. 
          BUT YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE LISTED BECAUSE WE DID GO CONTACT THEM, WE TOOK THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS. 
          WELL, THAT ANSWERED THE QUESTION. 
          I SAID THAT'S FINE. 
          SO, MINA, COME ON. 
          YOU'RE RECOMMENDING THE VISIT WI TELL US WHAT YOU THINK. 
          SO TALKING ABOUT VISIT WIDGET. 
          VISIT WIDGET WILL NOT GONNA BE ONLY OUR WEBSITE HOSTING AT CON AND KAITLIN CAN EMPHASIZE OF THIS, THIS WILL GONNA BE A WIDGET PLUS THE HOSTING. 
          SO THE WIDGET ITSELF, WE ATTENDED A DEMO FOR THE, THIS WIDGET SITE. 
          THEY PROVIDE APPREHENDED WIDGET WITH AN APP. 
          UH, THIS INCLUDES BUNCH OF ITEMS INCLUDING LIKE BUSINESSES, THE ONE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A MINUTE AGO, ADVERTISE MORE BUSINESSES. 
          SO THE WIDGET DO ADVERTISEMENT. 
          WE COMPARE DIFFERENT ITEMS BETWEEN HOSTING THE ONE AT LEAST WE DID MEET WITH THE ONE CALLED THE 365. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THEY USING A, I DON'T WANNA SAY A CHEAP HOSTING, BUT THEY PROVIDE A SERVICE WITH ANOTHER HOSTING VENDOR THAT DOESN'T PROVIDE ANY, ANY FIREWALL OR ANY REDUNDANCY, WHICH MAKE US IN A POSITION THAT, WHO HOSTS THE CITI WEBSITE, UH, CIVIC, CIVIC PLUS. 
          WAS THAT A CONSIDERATION? UM, I MEAN, CIVIC PLUS IS PRETTY EXPENSIVE, SO IT WOULD BE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE FOUR THAT OKAY. 
          SO SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE TAILORED TOWARD THIS? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO JUST THE I, THE MY THIS MORE, THIS IS YOU GET IN THE WIDGET, WHICH IS MORE ON THE EDC SIDE, PROVIDE, UH, ITEMS TO EMPOWER BUSINESSES, PLUS THE HOSTING. 
          SO WE'RE GETTING A BIG DISCOUNT ON THE HOSTING SIDE WITH THE WIDGET. 
          SO WHAT THIS COMPANY DO, IT'S MOSTLY PROVIDE THE WIDGET AND HOSTING SERVICES. 
          SO IF CAITLIN, I, I DON'T WANT TO GET OFF TRACK TOO MUCH, BUT THE FIRST THING THAT COMES TO MY MIND IS THAT, UH, E-D-O-I-Q, WE ARE LOSING VALUE FROM THEM BY DROPPING THIS HOSTING SERVICE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND WE DON'T USE E-D-O-E-D-O IQ IN MY MIND AS WE HAD INTENDED TO USE IT MANY YEARS AGO. 
          IS THERE ANOTHER CRM TOOL THAT WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING IF THEY'RE TAKING VALUE AWAY FROM US? WELL, SO EDIQ IS, IS ADVERTISES THEMSELVES AS A CRM, BUT THEY REALLY ARE A, UM, WHERE I SEE A LOT OF THE VALUE IS THE MONITORING, THE TRACKING OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS. 
          UM, SO YOU CAN SET, WE SET ALL OF OUR INCENTIVE PACKAGES IN THERE, THEIR DUE DATES. 
          YOU GET THE POPUPS AND THE REMINDERS, HEY, YOU NEED TO GO CONTACT DLS 'CAUSE THEY HAVE TO HAVE THEIR PERMIT ISSUED BY X DATE. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, SO IT'S A, IT'S A TOOL THAT'S TAILORED SPECIFICALLY. 
          IT'S, YEAH, IT'S REALLY A TOOL TAILORED SPECIFICALLY TO EDCS. 
          THEY SAY THE CRMI DON'T, I, I WOULD NOT SAY THE CRM IS WHAT PROBABLY YOU AND I HAD ON THE SALES SIDE AS A CM, LIKE A SALESFORCE.COM. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THAT. 
          UM, UM, CERTAINLY IF WE, I I WILL CONCUR ABSOLUTELY WITH THE STATEMENT, WE ARE NOW 
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ESSENTIALLY PAYING THE SAME FOR LESS SERVICE. 
          UM, AND HAVE YOU, HAVE YOU CALLED HIM TO THE MAT ON THAT? UH, I, I DID SPEAK WITH THEM. 
          THEY WERE AT THE TEDC CONFERENCE AND I BROUGHT THIS UP TO OUR REP AND HE SAID, UNFORTUNATELY THAT WAS A CORPORATE DECISION AND JUST KIND OF GAVE ME THE STANDARD, CAN'T ANSWER. 
          UM, IT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT THEY WERE NO LONGER SUPPORTING. 
          UM, IT WAS COST, I ASSUME IT WAS COSTING TOO MUCH. 
          HE DIDN'T SAY THAT, BUT THAT WAS CERTAINLY THE IMPRESSION I GOT. 
          UM, THAT THEY'RE STICKING STRICTLY GONNA BE FOCUSING THEIR, THEIR EFFORTS ON, ON THEIR PLATFORM AND IMPROVING THEIR PLATFORM. 
          VERY KIND OF ANSWER YOU WOULD EXPECT FROM BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT PERSON IN A CONFERENCE. 
          SO, BUT YOU KNOW, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, UM, YES, I AM PAYING AND, AND AS I SAID, I'M NOW PAYING YOU THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR ONE LESS SERVICE. 
          SO BINA, NOT TO CUT YOU OFF, BUT IS THIS PARTICULAR WIDGET VISIT WIDGET YES. 
          WHAT YOU ARE RECOMMENDING? UH, YES. 
          FROM THE HOSTING SIDE ESPECIALLY, THEY WILL GIVE US 50% OFF USING THE HOSTING SERVICES AND THEY HAVE THE SECURITY PROCEDURES THAT WE NEED. 
          50% OFF OF THE PRICES THAT YOU JUST SHOWED US? NO, NO. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S, GO AHEAD. 
          IT'S A BUNDLE. 
          SO IF WE WERE TO JUST DO THE HOSTING BY ITSELF, IT WOULD BE MORE EXPENSIVE, BUT WE'RE ADDING THE WIDGET ONTO THAT, SO THEREFORE WE WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE BIT OF A DISCOUNT. 
          SO THE WIDGET IS MORE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOLS. 
          UH, WELL LIST, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LISTING ALL BUSINESSES WITHIN THE CITY. 
          SO THEY WILL HAVE THEIR OWN BRANDED APP, IS THAT IT'S USED FOR BUSINESS AND TOOLS MEANS THIS KIND OF STUFF. 
          QUESTION. 
          YES. 
          UH, WHAT DO WE INTEND ON USING WITH THE EXTRA FEATURES AS FAR AND SECOND QUESTION, AND WHEN DO WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION? WHEN YOU SAY LIKE EXTRA FEATURES, DO YOU MEAN THE WIDGET? YES. 
          SO I THINK THAT, DIDN'T WE TALK ABOUT, UM, I THINK KEAH BOARDWALK USES IT, SO THAT'S A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF, UM, HOW THEY'RE ADVERTISING WHAT THEY OFFER. 
          AND IT'S A REALLY GOOD, LIKE IF, LET ME SEE WHAT, AND I THINK THERE, THERE SOME OF THE THINGS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER AROUND OUR RESTAURANTS AND HELPING OUT SOME OF OUR SMALL BUSINESSES. 
          UH, I THINK THERE CAMPAIGN MANAGEMENT, CAMPAIGN MANAGEMENT, NO. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, DID THEY CALL IT THAT? I DON'T KNOW. 
          I MEAN, THEY DON'T CALL IT THAT, BUT IF, IF I'M VISITING DICKINSON AND I WANNA SEE WHAT RESTAURANTS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I I'M NOT GONNA, I DON'T HAVE TO GOOGLE SEARCH IT. 
          I CAN GO ONTO THE APP OR ONTO THE WEBSITE AND IT POPULATES A WHOLE LIST AND YOU CLICK ON IF I WANNA GO TO GATORS. 
          AND HOW, HOW DOES A VISITOR KNOW TO USE THIS WEBSITE THOUGH? OR BECAUSE THEY WOULD GO TO THE EDC WEBSITE. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IT'S SOMEBODY THAT WOULD BE FAMILIAR WITH THE EDC TO HIT OUR SITE FIRST. 
          WELL ACTUALLY, SO JUST COINCIDE THE, THE CITY SIDE ACTUALLY BROUGHT VISIT WIDGET TO OUR ATTENTION BECAUSE, UM, NOT ME'S GROUP, BUT ANOTHER GROUP BECAUSE THEY'RE LOOKING AT, AT BUYING THIS SERVICE ON THE CITY SIDE. 
          SO THEORETICALLY IF, IF IT'S THE EDC WEBSITE OR THE CITY WEBSITE, UM, IF THE CITY, UH, GOES THIS ROUTE AS WELL, IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE BOTH. 
          AND, AND WE COULD PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, ADD IT TO OUR PAGE ON THE CITY WEBSITE AS WELL. 
          SO WHEN DO WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION? Q DID AWAY WITH THEIR HOSTING SERVICE MONTHS AGO, AND I'VE BEEN TRYING TO, YEAH, I'VE BEEN VETTING THESE FOUR FOR A WHILE AND SO, I MEAN, JUST AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE ON SLIGHTLY BORROWED TIME. 
          THEY HAVEN'T, THEY'RE NOT GONNA PULL THE PLUG NEXT WEEK. 
          UM, BUT THEY, THEY DEFINITELY ARE GONNA BE PULLING THE PLUG WITHIN THE NEXT 90 TO 120 DAYS. 
          THEY, THEY, THEY'VE REMOVED MANY OF THEIR CLIENTS ALREADY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, YEAH, I MEAN, I, THIS IS NOT MY AREA OF EXPERTISE. 
          YEAH. 
          I HAVE TO LEAN ON THE EXPERTS TO REALLY HELP GUIDE THIS. 
          I, I, I THINK IT'S GETTING TURNED OFF, OFF AT THE END OF THE YEAR. 
          WELL, HERE, MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT IF TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE, THEN YOU MAKE THE PROPOSAL TO BE APPROVED TODAY. 
          BUT IF WE COULD WAIT OFF FOR ANOTHER, ANOTHER MONTH, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, CAITLYN, I THINK YOU'RE EXTREMELY CAPABLE OF DOING THIS, IS A, IS A, IS A MARKETING PLAN ON HOW WE ATTEND ON USING, UTILIZING THESE TOOLS THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR THESE TOOLS. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN, THESE ARE TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND TAXPAYERS ARE GONNA WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE WITH THE RE WITH THE RESOURCES. 
          ONCE AGAIN, I THINK YOU'RE EXTREMELY CAPABLE, YOU'VE DONE SOME INCREDIBLE WORK. 
          BUT IT COMES DOWN TO WE'RE MAKING A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT WHEN THE CITY'S ALREADY IN A SHORTFALL AND WE'RE PAYING DOUBLE FOR SOMETHING THAT A PLATFORM COULD HAVE DONE, BUT THEY 
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CHOSE NOT TO DO. 
          AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE JUST GETTING OUR BIGGEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK. 
          AND I'M GETTING THE SIGNAL OVER HERE, SO I'LL STOP. 
          I WAS, HE WAS YOU'RE GOOD. 
          CLEARING HIS THROAT. 
          I WAS SAYING, I'M GETTING THIS SIGNAL OVER HERE. 
          OH NO, YOU CAN . 
          NO, NO, I'M, I'M, YEAH, I'M JUST KIDDING. 
          CLEAR MY THROAT. 
          US BEING FUNNY. 
          YEAH, SO THAT'S ALL. 
          SO ARE YOU IN AGREEMENT THAT YOU CAN YEAH, I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT TODAY. 
          IT'S NOT A PROBLEM. 
          BUT I THINK THERE IS A FOLLOW UP HERE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          GOT IT. 
          ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY. 
          THEN WE'LL DEFER THIS TO A LATER VOTE. 
          DO WE NEED TO TABLE THAT NIM OR HOW DOES THAT MOTION TO POSTPONE? YEAH, MOTION TO POSTPONE THE VOTE ON THIS. 
          ON SEVEN C, SEVEN B. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          I'LL SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. 
          ALRIGHT, WE WILL NOW MOVE 
          [8. EXECUTIVE (CLOSED) SESSION(S)]
INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          THE BOARD WILL NOW HOLD A CLOSED EXECUTIVE MEETING PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF CHAPTER 5 5, 1 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AUTHORITY CONTAINED IN PHOTO ON RV. 
          SO THERE YOU GO. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          TIME IS 8 45. 
          WE ARE NOW BACK IN SESSION. 
          UH, THERE ARE NO ACTION ITEMS FROM OUR CLOSED SESSION, SO WE'LL MOVE ON 
          [10. BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS]
TO SECTION 10, WHICH IS BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS. 
          AT THIS TIME, I WOULD OPEN THE FLOOR TO ANY OF OUR FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO, UH, SHARE SOME THOUGHTS. 
          WALTER, ANYTHING? ANYTHING? NO, HOW ABOUT YOU MA'AM? NO COMMENT TONIGHT. 
          UH, MY ONLY COMMENT IS IT WAS GOOD TO SEE DEC UH, CITY OF DICKINSON STAFF AT A BEHE MEETING LAST MONTH. 
          REALLY COOL. 
          ABOUT THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION. 
          SO IT'S GOOD TO SEE OUR, OUR EMPLOYEES AT WORK HERE. 
          I'M GOOD. 
          YES. 
          LIKE THE IDEA OF US LOOKING AT OUR BUDGET AND SUPPORTING THE CITY AND OPEN UP OUR LINES OF COMMUNICATION WITH COUNCIL. 
          I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT MOVE. 
          AND IF WE'RE COMMITTED TO THIS THEN, YOU KNOW, I THINK COLIN SAID IT, TO SWALLOW PRIDE IN CERTAIN AREAS AND HOLD OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE IN OTHER AREAS. 
          AND I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 
          AS WITH EVERYTHING. 
          WE'VE GOT A STORM TO WEATHER. 
           YOU ALL, UH, I MEAN I CAN KEEP GOING. 
          I HAD THE, UH, 14 SLIDES EARLIER TO KICK OFF THE MEETING, BUT YOU KNOW, , . 
          ALRIGHT, WELL I, UH, I DON'T HAVE MOTION. 
          IS MY MEETING ADJOURNED?
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