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I THINK S DO YOU FORGET ME? HOLD ON.
WHY ARE YOU NOT ON HERE? BRUCE
I THINK YOU'RE TRYING TO TELL ME SOMETHING.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, PLEASE, UH, RISE AND, UH, JOIN US IN THE INVOCATION WITH DEBORAH FORTNER.
MS. MARJORIE IS GONNA LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE TO BOTH FLAGS OUR HEAVENLY FATHER.
WE JUST COME TO YOU AND SO GRATEFUL AS A COMMUNITY THAT, UH, WE HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO, TO MEET AND TO DISCUSS.
AND WE ASK YOUR DIRECTION, UH, ON OUR DECISIONS THAT THEY, THEY FOLLOW YOUR LEAD.
AND, UH, WE THANK YOU LORD, FOR WATCHING OVER ALL THE PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD THAT, UH, PROTECT THAT RIGHT TO DO SO.
PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
WE ARE REALLY THAT BAD IN CIVICS.
WHAT? THAT WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN.
NEEDS TO GO UP THE OTHER TIME.
I'M EMBARRA THAT I DIDN'T REMEMBER THAT ONE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
I WAS LIKE, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR COMING TONIGHT.
UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE, PUBLIC COMMENTS.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE INVITED TO GIVE COMMENTS AT THIS TIME, LASTING NO LONGER THAN THREE MINUTES.
COMMENTS MAY BE GENERAL IN NATURE AND MAY ADDRESS A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM AND SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO THE ENTIRE COMMISSION.
NOT INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION OR STAFF.
ANY SPEAKER MAKING PERSONAL TAXES USING VULGAR OR PROFANE LANGUAGE SHALL FORFEIT HIS OR HER REMAINING TIME AND SHALL BE SEATED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT.
THE COMMISSION MAY NOT DELIBERATE.
DO WE HAVE ANYBODY THAT SIGNED UP FOR OPEN, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO.
IS THERE ANYBODY THAT DIDN'T SIGN UP THAT DOES WANNA SPEAK? OKAY.
[4. ANNOUNCEMENTS AND PRESENTATIONS]
WE GO TO ITEM FOUR, ANNOUNCEMENTS AND PRESENTATIONS BUILDING OFFICIAL UPDATE.UH, TRAVIS MOORE, CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MANAGER.
THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT.
UH, I DID WANNA TAKE A MINUTE TO TOUCH ON THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, UH, PRETTY HOT TOPIC IN THE CITY OF DICKINSON.
UH, WE ALL KNOW THAT THE UUC IS A LIVING DOCUMENT, UH, BUT IT PROVIDES A CLEAR PATHWAY TO ACHIEVE OUR 2045 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AS WITH ANY LIVING DOCUMENT, CHANGES IN GROWING PAINS ARE EXPECTED.
UH, STAFF HAS EXPERIENCED BOTH THUS FAR.
SOME EXAMPLES, UH, ARE, EXCUSE ME, SOME EXAMPLES ARE AS FOLLOWS.
IN SUBSECTION 1830 8.5, THE LOT CONSOLIDATION.
THE INTENT OF THIS WAS TO ALLOW HOMEOWNERS TO COMBINE TWO LOTS.
UM, TYPICALLY WE EXPERIENCE THIS WHERE A HOMEOWNER WILL HAVE TWO NEIGHBORING LOTS AND A PRIMARY RESIDENCE, ANOTHER, AND THEY WOULD WANT TO BUILD AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE ON THE ADJOINING LOT.
ORDINANCE DOES NOT PERMIT THIS AS THE LOTS WOULD NEED TO BE PLATTED, UH, TOGETHER TO ESTABLISH A PRIMARY STRUCTURE FOR AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
SO THE INTENT OF THIS WAS TO ALLOW THEM TO COMBINE THE, WITHOUT HAVING TO REPL AND PAYING THE FEE OF REPL, WHICH, WHICH CAN REALLY GET EXPENSIVE.
UM, BUT UNFORTUNATELY WHEN WE TOOK THIS PROCESS TO THE GALSTON COUNTY CLERK, UH, THEY DID NOT ACCEPT IT.
UH, THEY STATED THAT THEY NEED A MYLAR, UH, ESSENTIALLY A PLAT.
UH, SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS ADOPTED IN THE EDC DIDN'T END UP WORKING.
UH, WE KIND OF HAVE TO SCRAP IT, START FROM THE BEGINNING.
I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH LEGAL ABOUT WHAT, UH, WHAT WE COULD DO AS STAFF TO MAKE AN ACCEPTABLE LOT LINE CONSOLIDATION PROCESS.
UH, ADDITIONALLY, ANOTHER ONE, THESE ARE JUST TWO EXAMPLES.
UH, SUBSECTION 18 DASH 14 D THE MANUFACTURED HOME PARK.
UH, THIS IS IN THE, UH, I JUST LOST THE WORD.
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USE, UH, CONDITIONAL USE TERMS. THE CONDITIONAL USE TERMS IN THE UDC ARE A LITTLE BIT SHORTER THAN WHAT WE HAD IN CHAPTER NINE IN MUNI CODE, WHICH WAS THE MOBILE HOME PARK SECTION.UH, SO IT HAS SOME DEVELOPMENT GUIDELINES, HOWEVER, THE END, IT REFERS BACK TO CHAPTER NINE IN MUNI CODE, UM, FOR ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS.
UH, THE ISSUE WITH THAT IS CHAPTER NINE IS REPEALED.
THE UDC REPEALED, I THINK FIVE CHAPTERS.
WHAT, WHAT IS CHAPTER NINE? PARDON ME? THE MOBILE HOME PARK COMMUNITIES.
SO IN THE UDC, THE FIRST CHAPTER EFFECT, IT LISTS WHICH CHAPTERS ARE REPEALED AND REPLACED.
UH, SO ONE OF THOSE CHAPTERS IS CHAPTER NINE.
UH, IT WAS REPEALED AND JUST REPLACED WITH THIS ONE SECTION.
UH, THE ISSUE WITH THAT, UH, IS IT REMOVES THE LICENSING REQUIREMENT FOR MOBILE HOME PARKS, WHICH I'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH ON, UH, WITH MOBILE HOME PARK COMMUNITIES, WHETHER THEY LIKE THAT OR NOT.
WHAT TEETH DOES HAVING A LICENSE, A YEARLY LICENSE FOR A MOBILE HOME PARK REALLY GIVE THE CITY? DOES IT GIVE US ANY BENEFIT? DOES IT GIVE THEM ANY BENEFIT? NOT NECESSARILY.
UM, BUT IT REMOVES THAT, IT REMOVES THE PROHIBITION OF EXPANDING MANUFACTURED HOMES, ET CETERA.
SO THERE, THERE'S SOME STUFF FROM CHAPTER NINE, WHICH DOES THAT CHAPTER HAVE LIMITATIONS ON AGE OF MOBILE HOMES OR ANYTHING TO THAT EFFECT? IT DOES.
IT'S, UH, 15 YEARS, I BELIEVE.
UM, SO I BELIEVE THAT, THAT THE UDC CARRIES THAT SAME REQUIREMENT.
UM, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER 'CAUSE IT DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE.
SO THE U THE UDC DOES HAVE STANDARDS FOR MANUFACTURE HOME PARKS, UH, IT'S JUST SHORTER THAN WHAT WAS IN CHAPTER NINE.
UH, SO, SO THAT DOES EXIST IN THE UDC.
HOWEVER, THERE'S ADDITIONAL STANDARDS.
IT'S LIKE SIDEWALKS, SIDEWALKS, LIGHTING, THE LICENSING PART.
UH, THERE'S SOME OTHER REQUIREMENTS IN CHAPTER NINE THAT, THAT THEY REFER TO AS ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS, WHICH ESSENTIALLY I'M SAYING ARE NOT ENFORCEABLE BECAUSE CHAPTER NINE IS, IS GONE.
WHO GOT RID OF CHAPTER NINE? WELL, C DID, IT WAS JUST, IT WAS PART OF THE U-D-C-U-D-C.
WHO? NO, THAT'S THE ONE WE DIDN'T, WE HUH? VOTED DOWN.
BUT THEN IT GOT, UH, YEAH, THEY GOT SELECTED.
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON THE U-D-C-U-D-C UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE IS A PRODUCT OF A COMPANY, IS IT NOT? YES, YES, YES.
I THINK THE, UH, UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE IS OFFERED BY MORE, MORE THAN JUST THIS ONE COMPANY.
AND THE UDC IS NOT A STATE REQUIREMENT.
IT'S NOT A PAR COUNTY REQUIREMENT.
IT'S A PRODUCT THAT IS SOLD TO DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES AND THEY HAVE THE CHOICE TO ADOPT IT.
THEY CERTAINLY HAVE THE CHOICE TO ADOPT IT.
KIND OF THE POINT THAT I'M GETTING TO, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT MS. DEBORAH IS GETTING TO IS, AND I, I WON'T WASTE EVERYBODY'S TIME.
I THINK EVERYBODY'S CLEAR ON MY LOVE OF THIS UDC, BUT BOTTOM LINE, THE UDC IS A PRODUCT OF GOOD INFORMATION, GOOD, UH, BASIC RULES AND EVERYTHING, BUT IT IS NOT CUSTOM FIT FOR OUR CITY.
THAT IT WAS NOT, IT WAS KIND OF SHOEHORNED IN.
AND IT'S A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION.
AND THIS COMPANY STILL MAKES CHOICES TO, UH,
THEY GET THE CHOICES TO DO THESE THINGS, RIGHT? YEAH.
UH, THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF WORK COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND COMMUNITY INPUT THAT WAS PUT INTO THE UDC BEFORE IT WAS ADOPTED.
SO, YOU KNOW, TO SAY THAT THE, THE COMPANY THAT CREATED IT, UH, CREATED AT 100%.
IT DID NOT TAILOR IT TO THE CITY OF DICKINSON.
I THINK THE INTENT AND THE EFFORT WAS TO TAILOR IT TO THE CITY OF DICKINSON.
UH, WHETHER WE'RE THERE RIGHT NOW OR WHETHER WE GOT THAT ON THE FIRST SHOT MM-HMM
I'M NOT HATING ON IT COMPLETELY.
NOT TRYING TO START ANY FUSS ON IT.
UH, I, I, I THINK EVERYBODY ON THIS BOARD IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE EFFORT THAT WAS PUT INTO IT, AND IT IS APPRECIATED.
BUT THAT, THAT PRODUCT REPLACED ABOUT 40 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE OF PEOPLE DEALING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR CITY, THE CHANGING INNER CITY.
SO THE ITEMS YOU'RE BRINGING UP ARE GOING TO BE ONE OF MANY THAT ARE COMING MM-HMM
AND THE BIGGEST THING I WOULD SAY, SPEAKING ONLY FOR MYSELF, EVERYBODY CAN AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH ME.
NOT SAYING BY ANY MEANS THAT I'M GOING TO SAY I'M AGAINST THE UDC, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT STAFF AND EVERYBODY, AND I WOULD TALK TO THE MAYOR, I WOULD TALK TO THE CITY MANAGER AND SAY THE SAME THING TO 'EM.
THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE, ESPECIALLY IN THE FIRST FEW YEARS OF THIS UDC, THERE NEEDS TO BE A LOT OF LEEWAY GIVEN TO THE CITIZENS TO WHERE WE DON'T HOLD THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE, TO A LOT OF RULES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN OUR RULES.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE KIND OF TOUCHING BASE ON A COUPLE OF 'EM.
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TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING.I WANT TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW MANY OF THESE RULES, 'CAUSE YOU JUST SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THERE WAS A RULE CHANGE AND WE DIDN'T, THAT WASN'T RIGHT.
AND THE COUNTY SAID WE STILL HAD TO COMPLY WITH IT.
THE, SO THE PROCESS THAT WE ADOPTED IN THE UUDC, THE COUNTY DID NOT ACCEPT, UH, WE SAID, WE, WE DO THIS PROCESS AND WE BRING THEM, UH, I THINK IT WAS LIKE TWO SURVEYS AND, AND THE TAX RECORDS FOR THOSE ADJOINING PROPERTIES.
AND WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GO AND FILE THAT WITH THE COUNTY CLERK, AND WE BROUGHT WITH THEM AND SAY, WE CAN'T ACCEPT THIS.
WE CAN ONLY FILE THIS IF YOU BRING US, UH, A MYLAR BY REGISTERED SURVEYOR.
UH, SO, SO ESSENTIALLY WE ADOPTED A LOT LINE CONSOLIDATION PROCEDURE THAT IS NOT ABLE TO FUNCTION.
SO UDC IS NOT ABLE TO FUNCTION AS IT'S WRITTEN.
AND FOR CLARITY, THE LOT LINE CONSOLIDATION PROCESS DID NOT EVEN EXIST, UH, BEFORE THE UDC.
SO ESSENTIALLY, IF THE SCENARIO I BROUGHT UP LIKE AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE ON A LOT WITHOUT A PRIMARY STRUCTURE, THAT PROPERTY OWNER WOULD HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO REPL.
I, I GUESS ONE OF THE THINGS, TRAVIS, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU CLARIFYING ALL THIS.
SORRY, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME.
UM, I'M CURIOUS WHO GOT RID OF THE, THE MORE STRINGENT, UM, RULES WITH REGARD TO MOBILE HOME AND IT'S GOT REPLACED.
SO IT IT IS, IT IS UP IN THE AIR.
WHETHER THIS WAS INTENTIONAL OR NOT.
I I HAVEN'T REALLY FIGURED THAT THAT PART OUT.
BUT PART, PART OF THE UDC WAS, YOU KNOW, WAS REPLACING SECTIONS WITH NEW SECTIONS.
SO LIKE THE ZONING CHAPTER 18 WAS REPEALED AND REPLACED WITH THE EDC, THE SAME WITH CHAPTER NINE.
UH, FOR THE MANUFACTURER HOME PARKS, IT WAS REPEALED AND REPLACED WITH THE EDC.
I GUESS THE PROBLEM I HAVE IS THE REPLACEMENT IS LESS THAN NO DOUBT.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE THEY WOULD'VE GONE BEFORE SOME BOARD OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE EVEN US WITH REGARD TO THAT.
UH, THEY DID, AND THEN WE SAID NO, AND THEN THEY TOOK IT TO THE COUNCIL AND, AND THEY SAID YES.
WELL, THE, THE ENTIRE PACKAGE, THE WHOLE THING.
SEE, THE UUD C UH, BRUCE, I THINK IS A COPYRIGHTED DOCUMENT.
AND I THINK WE PAY A FEE TO USAGE AND THE ANNUAL OR MONTHLY FEE MM-HMM
ANYWAY, THAT I, I WAS JUST CURIOUS, UM, WHO MADE THAT CHOICE? I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND SHE'S JUST TRYING TO DO AN UPDATE AND HE'S LIKE, MAN, I DON'T WANNA, SORRY TO, WE'RE DOING, WE'RE DOING ALL RIGHT.
SO, BUT I, I WOULDN'T LIKE TO MAKE SURE IT'S, IT'S ON THE MINUTES THERE THAT I WOULD, AS MUCH AUTHORITY AS I HAVE, WHICH IS NOT MUCH, I WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND THE STAFF AND ALL COUNCIL AND EVERYBODY TO HAVE A LOT OF LENIENCY WITH OUR, OUR CITIZENS WHEN DEALING WITH THIS.
I I WAS JUST TELLING YOU ABOUT IT.
I EXPERIENCED IT IN LAKE CITY, AND IT WAS PHENOMENAL HOW DIFFICULT IT WAS TO DO SOMETHING BECAUSE IT HAD EIGHT PAGES OF RULES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT APPLY BASED ON INTERPRETATIONS.
AND THIS WAS NOT A REALLY COMPLICATED SITUATION I WAS DEALING WITH.
AND I'M THINKING ABOUT ALL OUR CITIZENS, ALL THE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE GOING ON.
TONIGHT'S A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF WHAT A MAJOR CHANGE IS.
UH, SADLY ENOUGH, I'M GONNA SPEAK THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEFINITIONS FOR ZONING THAT I SHAMEFULLY HAVE TO ADMIT, I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT CLEAR ON WHAT THOSE EXACT ONES ARE.
AND I, I PERSONALLY NEED TO GET A LITTLE MORE EXPERIENCE ON IT.
BUT I ASK A LOT OF PATIENTS WITH US AND WITH THE CITIZENS THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE THING.
AND MY EXPERIENCE WITH TRIALS HAS BEEN THAT JUST THAT, THAT THAT'S BEEN THANK YOU.
AND ALSO, THE ONE THING IS POSITIVE ABOUT THIS, IS IT BECAUSE IT'S COMPUTERIZED AND IT GOES TO DIFFERENT THINGS AFTER SURE.
IT'S, IT'S NOT, NOT THAT HARD TO USE.
SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT, YEAH.
IT, IT'S FAIRLY USER FRIENDLY AND I'M SURE Y'ALL KNOW, WE GET A TON OF FEEDBACK ON IT.
UH, AND, AND IT'S NOT ALL NEGATIVE.
WE HAVE MANY, UH, MANY PEOPLE COME IN, ESPECIALLY LIKE FIRST TIME, UH, DEVELOPERS THAT SAY, HEY, I BOUGHT THIS LOT, UH, I WANNA BUILD A HOUSE ON AND SELL IT.
AND I'VE BEEN RESEARCHING UDC FOR TWO WEEKS, AND I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TO DO.
UH, WE'VE HAD MANY CASES LIKE THAT, WHICH IS GREAT.
UM, IT, IT IS VERY INFORMATIONAL.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S CERTAINLY SOMETIMES WHERE PEOPLE ARE MAYBE HESITANT TO ENGAGE THAT AND, AND ENGAGE THE DOCUMENT AND DIG INTO IT AND SEE WHAT IT REALLY HAS TO OFFER.
UM, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WE CAN'T DO NOW THAT JUST GOT PUSHED DOWN ON US.
FOR THE RECORD, I HIT IT MOVING FROM MY FLIP PHONE TO AN IPHONE.
SO
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YOU KNOW, TRYING TO TRANSITION.UH, THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF THAT'S, THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME LOGIC TO IT.
NEW RULES, RIGHT? THE NON-CON WERE NOT IN EFFECT WHEN THEY WERE ORIGINALLY.
THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME GRANDFATHER ON SOME OF THIS STUFF THERE.
THERE'S A NON-CONFORMING SECTION.
SO I, I'VE GONE THROUGH THAT A LITTLE BIT WITH MARJORIE, BUT IT, IT DOESN'T APPLY TO ALL SITUATIONS.
UM, BUT MORE, PLEASE GIVE US MORE
SO, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE JUST TWO EXAMPLES.
LIKE I SAID, STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING, UH, SINCE THE ADOPTION OF THE UDC TO IMPLEMENT, UH, THE NEW DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND FIND OUT WHAT WORKS AND WHAT DOESN'T WORK FOR DICKINSON.
UM, UH, WE CERTAINLY GET A LOT OF FEEDBACK.
UH, HOWEVER THE COMMISSION'S PERSPECTIVE CAN PROVIDE US VALUE.
THE UDC ACTUALLY DOES GIVE THE AUTHORITY TO P AND Z AND CITY COUNCIL TO INITIATE TEXT AND ZONING MAP AMENDMENTS.
UH, SO Y'ALL AS WELL WITHIN YOUR RIGHT, UH, TO INITIATE THAT, WE CAN PUT IT ON THE AGENDA WHENEVER Y'ALL WANT.
ANY SPECIFIC TEXT OR ZONING MAP AMENDMENT APPLICATION.
AND, UH, STAFF WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND AN INVITE TO THE P AND Z COMMISSION TO BRING SPECIFIC CONCERNS OR ISSUES IN THE UDC UP FOR DISCUSSION.
UH, MAYBE A GOOD PLACE TO START WOULD BE, UH, GETTING US INITIAL LIST OF, YOU KNOW, CONCERNS THAT WE CAN DO SOME RESEARCH ON AND, AND BRING IT TO A MEETING OR A, OR A WORKSHOP OR A TOWN HALL MEETING.
UH, WE'RE KIND OF OPEN TO RECOMMENDATIONS FROM P AND Z IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED IN ANY WAY BESIDES JUST REGULAR MEETINGS.
WE COULD DO TOWN HALLS OR, OR WORKSHOPS OR WHATEVER Y'ALL REALLY SEE FIT.
OR IF YOU JUST WANNA SEND US YOUR SUGGESTIONS AND WE TAKE IT FROM THERE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, UH, FROM I THINK THE GO FROM TOGETHER, FROM THE COMMITTEE JUST TO REVIEW THE
SO WE HAVE EXPLORED THAT OPTION.
UH, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF IN UPPER MANAGEMENT RIGHT NOW, WHETHER WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH WITH THAT OR NOT.
UH, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, P AND Z, THIS IS KIND OF Y'ALL'S TERRITORY.
UH, SO WE HAD MIXED OPINIONS WHETHER BRINGING IN AN OUTSIDE COMMITTEE WOULD BE STEPPING ON TOES OR JUST CREATE MORE CHAOS.
BUT IT WAS OURS BEFORE WHEN WE TURNED IT DOWN.
CERTAINLY IT STILL GOT PASSED.
UM, ANYWAY, THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE FOR THE UPDATE.
LIKE I SAID, UH, YOU'LL HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO INITIATE TEXT OR ZONING MAP MINUTES WHENEVER YOU'D LIKE, OR EMAIL US WITH ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS.
[5. CONSENT AGENDA]
THE GENTLEMEN MOVING TO ITEM FIVE CONSENT AGENDA.THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE CONSIDERED ROUTINE AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION.
THERE WILL NOT BE A SEPARATE DISCUSSION ON THESE ITEMS UNLESS THE COMMISSION MEMBER REQUESTS IN WHICH EVENT, THE AGENDA ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND DISCUSSED AFTER THE CONSENT AGENDA.
ITEM FIVE, A CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE MEETING FROM MARCH 18TH, 2025.
DID YOU GET BOTH? UH, MARJORIE AND DEBORAH? UH, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
[6. PUBLIC HEARING(S) AND ACTION ITEM(S) FOR PUBLIC HEARING(S)]
PUBLIC HEARINGS AND ACTION ITEMS FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS.CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING A REQUEST TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP FROM URBAN TRANSITION ZONING DISTRICT TO DOWNTOWN FOR A PARCEL LAND OF APPROXIMATELY 6.677 ACRES.
LOCATED AT 4 0 1 5 DICKINSON AVENUE, LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS ABSTRACT 78 R HALL EAST, 1 66 FOOT BLOCK 3 0 5, ALL BLOCK 3 0 6 3 14.
AND PART E 1 66 FOOT LIGHT LT.
DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT 1 3 13 AND ALL ADJACENT ALLEYS AND STREETS ACRES 5.287 NICKEL STONE.
UH, WE WILL OPEN THE HEARING AT WHAT TIME IS IT? 6 21.
UH, SO WE HAVE THIS PROPERTY APPROXIMATELY LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF FIVE 17 AND DIXON AVENUE, OR 1266.
UH, YOU WOULD NOTE THAT THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY ON THE CORNER OF THE GAS STATION IS CURRENTLY ZONED, UH, DOWNTOWN, UH, WHILE THE, THE REST OF THE 40 15 PROPERTY IS ZONED URBAN TRANSITION.
UH, SO THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, UH, DOES SEEM TO ALIGN WITH REQUESTING THE ADDITION OF THE DOWNTOWN ZONING DISTRICT AND THE URBAN TRANSITION ZONE.
UH, THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT PROVIDES FOR A CONCENTRATION OF SMALL SCALE RETAIL OFFICE AND SERVICE BUSINESSES THAT ARE BUILT NEAR THE STREET, UH, UPPER FLOOR RESIDENTIAL UNITS FOR OFFICES THAT MAY ALSO COMPLIMENT THESE USES.
UH, I THINK THE APPLICANT HAS EXPRESSED, UH, A DESIRE TO FOR A SIMILAR DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA.
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HIS ISSUE WAS THE URBAN TRANSITION ZONING DISTRICT IS, IS SLIGHTLY RESTRICTED ON COMMERCIAL USES.UH, SO THE DOWNTOWN ZONING DISTRICT WILL, WILL PERMIT MORE THAN MORE OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT HE'S GOING FOR.
UH, IT SEEMS TO COMPLY WITH THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.
OBVIOUSLY, THE ONE ON THE CORNER IS ALREADY DOWNTOWN.
UH, THIS IS ESSENTIALLY JUST DOWNTOWN EXPANDING THE DOWNTOWN ZONING DISTRICT.
THIS IS A CURRENT PICTURE OF THE PROPERTY, AND THIS IS A PROPOSED, UH, SITE PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
SO I DID HAVE A REQUEST FOR A DEFINITION FOR THE URBAN TRANSITION ZONING DISTRICT.
THE URBAN TRANSITION ZONING DISTRICT ACCOMMODATES AREAS IMMEDIATELY SURROUNDING THE DOWNTOWN AREA, AND IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE AN AREA THAT TRANSITIONS FROM HIGHER DENSITY SLASH INTENSITY USES, AND THE DOWNTOWN TO A BUDDING LESS DENSE OR LESS INTENSE AREAS.
UH, SO ESSENTIALLY A BUFFER BETWEEN THE DOWNTOWN AND MORE RESIDENTIAL AREAS WITH LESS DENSITY.
UH, SO THE, THE INTENT WAS DOWNTOWN MOST DENSE URBAN TRANSITION, SLIGHTLY LESS DENSE.
AND, YOU KNOW, OUT FROM THERE, UH, THE DENSITY DECREASES.
WAS THIS ORIGINALLY, I DON'T THINK I'M ALLOWED TO ASK YET.
SO ALL THINGS CONSIDERED, UH, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR THIS ZONING MAP AMENDMENT.
NOTHING ELSE, TRAVIS, YOU GOOD? THAT'S IT FOR ME.
IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.
UM, IF YOU DIDN'T CATCH THAT, IT'S LIKE AIR JORDAN, BUT HAN SO YOU CAN REMEMBER ME NEXT TIME.
I'M WITH, UH, 40 15, UH, DICKINSON AVENUE WITH THIS, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
UH, WE JUST ACQUIRED THE SHOPPING CENTER.
UM, THANKS FOR GIVING ME A CHANCE TO SPEAK.
I DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION, UM, THAT WE WERE TRYING TO GET, UH, THE REZONING DONE BEFORE WE START WORKING ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT, UH, WE'RE THINKING OF DOING HERE.
SO, UM, ABOUT OURSELVES, WE ARE, UM, WE ARE A FRANCHISEE.
WE HAVE METRO BY T-MOBILE STORES ALL OVER TEXAS.
AND, UH, WE DO THIS, UH, AS WELL WHERE WE BUY OUR BUY OLDER PROPERTIES, SHOPPING CENTERS.
AND, UM, WE, UM, ARE THE PROPERTY MANAGER OURSELVES.
WE DO SELF, UH, IN-HOUSE LEASING, AND WE TREAT IT LIKE A, LIKE A FAMILY BUSINESS.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE DEAL WITH, UH, THE, THE TENANTS DAY IN AND DAY OUT.
UM, AND WE HAVE ABOUT NINE TO 10 SHOPPING CENTER CENTERS ALL OVER HOUSTON.
UH, THE REASON FOR US PURCHASING THIS, UH, FULL, FULLY LEASED OUT SHOPPING CENTER WAS THE PARCEL, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH THE BRIGHT FUTURE AHEAD OF IT, UH, DICKINSON, THE CITY OF DICK, UH, CITY OF DICKINSON, DOESN'T HAVE TOO MANY FAST FOOD OPTIONS.
SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT, WE WERE LIKE, OKAY, THIS IS BEAUTIFUL.
UH, MCDONALD'S HAD SHOWED INTEREST AT ONE POINT OF TIME, SO AFTER DISCUSSING WITH, UH, JAMES BROCK AWAY, WHO IS, UH, HANDLING THIS PROJECT FOR US, UH, HAS SAID THAT THIS COULD BE A GOOD, UH, SITE FOR, YOU KNOW, UM, MAYBE A CHICK-FIL-A OR WHOEVER SHOWS US INTEREST, STARBUCKS MAYBE.
SO, UM, THAT'S OUR WHOLE GAME PLAN HERE, IS TO DO THAT ON, ON THE COUPLE OF, UH, PAD SITES IN THE, IN THE, ON THE FRONT.
AND THEN IN THE BACK, WE'RE GONNA, UH, WE ARE PLANNING TO DO, UM, UH, RETAIL FLEX KIND OF SPACE THAT WILL GIVE, UH, UM, ANYBODY THAT HAS A SMALL BUSINESS TO COME IN AND, UH, OPERATE OUT OF THERE.
SO, YEAH, THAT'S ABOUT IT FOR ME.
DOESN'T HE NEED HIS PERSONAL ADDRESS THOUGH? OR IS IT THAT THAT WASN'T YOUR PERSONAL ADDRESS? OH, THAT WAS THE SHOPPING CENTER.
YOU NEED MY PERSONAL ADDRESS? YES, SIR.
IT'S, UH, 3 22 SOUTH GATESTONE IN HOUSTON.
I THOUGHT I DIDN'T PAY ATTENTION.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM YOU GUYS? UH, WE HAVE TO ASK AFTER WE CLOSE HEARING.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE, UH, COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL? OKAY.
UH, THEN OBVIOUSLY I DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED AN APPLICANT'S REBUTTAL.
AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'LL ADJOURN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6 27.
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THANK YOU.[7. ACTION ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION]
RIGHT NOW WE'LL STEP INTO ITEM SEVEN ALPHA CONSIDERATION, POPABLE ACTION.CONCERNING A REQUEST TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP FROM URBAN TRANSITION UT ZONING DISTRICT TO DOWNTOWN DT FOR PARCEL LAND OF APPROXIMATELY 6.677 ACRES, LOCATED AT 4,015 DICKINSON AVENUE, LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS ABSTRACT 78 R HALL, E 1 66 FORD BLOCK 3 0 5, ALL BLOCK 3 0 6 AND THREE 14, PART OF E 1 66 FTLT THREE 13, ALL ADJACENT ALLEYS AND STREETS ACRES, 5.287 NICKEL STONE.
I OPEN THE FLOOR TO, UH, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS.
WHAT IS YOUR TIMELINE? I THINK THIS ONE YOU CAN COME UP HERE.
YOU, YOU PLEASE COME TO THE BOOTH, SIR.
THE BOOTH DE SO WE ARE READY TO START WORKING ON THE PROJECT RIGHT AWAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, JUST CONTINGENT ON THE REZONING, I WOULD SAY, UH, WE'VE ALREADY STARTED ADVERTISING THE LAND, UH, FOR, FOR PAD SITES AND, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE BACK.
UH, SHOULD WE JUST, YOU KNOW, ONCE THIS IS APPROVED, WE'LL PROBABLY START IN, WITHIN THE NEXT THREE TO SIX MONTHS WITH ALL THE PERMITTING AND PLANNING.
DID YOU BUY THE HOE, ALL OF THE, UM, WHAT IS IT, RONNIE'S ICE HOUSE AND ALL THAT YOU BOUGHT SHOPPING CENTER? YES.
WITH THE, THE, THE LAND WITH THE SHOPPING CENTER.
WHAT KIND OF BALLPARK IDEA ON, WHEN YOU SAY REMODELING OF THOSE BUILDINGS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE, WHAT DOES THAT KIND OF ENTAIL? BALLPARK, NOT HOLDING YOUR FEET TO THE FIRE, JUST SURE.
SO IN, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS, UM, A THING ALL OVER TOWN NOW, UM, WHERE YOU SEE THE BLACK AND WHITE, YOU KNOW, UH, THE BLACK ACCENTS AND, UM, MORE LIKE A WOOD LOOK, LIKE HOW YOU HAVE THIS HERE, SO THE, YOU CAN ACCENT SOME OF THE, THE PILLARS AND, YOU KNOW, JUST MAKE IT LOOK MORE MODERN.
IS MAINLY LIKE A FRONTAGE, UH, REMODEL OR IS INSIDE BUILDING FACADE REMODEL.
SO WE'RE DEFINITELY GONNA REMODEL THE FACADE, INCREASE IT BY A LITTLE BIT MM-HMM
UM, SO IT JUST, IT LOOKS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE DATED, IT'S FROM YEAH, IT'S VERY DATED.
ABOUT 30 YEARS OLD, SO WE'LL MAKE IT LOOK.
UH, ANY PLANS TO MOVE ANY OF THOSE, UH, BUSINESSES OUT? IS THERE ANY CONCERNS IN THAT REGARD? THEY'RE ALL PRETTY HEALTHY TENANTS.
UM, I, WE JUST SIGNED A LEASE WITH A DOLLAR GENERAL.
AND, UH, THE BEAT MARKET DOES REALLY WELL.
RONNIE SIZE HOUSE IS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GREAT THERE.
I WAS JUST THERE BEFORE CHECKING UP ON THEM.
AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
UM, UH, THE DOLLAR STORE IS GOOD.
UM, THE CONVENIENCE STORE STORE'S GOOD.
I DON'T THINK THE LEA THE LEASES THAT WE GOT ARE PRETTY LONG TERM, SO WE'RE, YOU KNOW, UNLESS THEY WANT TO LEAVE, WE CAN'T REALLY.
BUT YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS TO MOVE ANYBODY OUT, RIGHT? NO.
YEAH, WE, YOU KNOW, WE, THAT'S AGAINST OUR BUSINESS.
WE ACTUALLY WORK WITH TENANTS TO MAKE THEM STAY IN THERE.
IF THEY WANNA LEAVE, WE TRY TO WORK WITH THEM AND TELL THEM LIKE, HEY, WE'RE HERE TO HELP YOU.
SOME OF THOSE, UH, SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN THERE FOR QUITE A WHILE.
THE ONLY, ONLY QUESTIONABLE TENANT I SEE IS, UH, A SMALL SALON.
UH, SHE'S, YOU KNOW, SHE'S GOT LIKE A 600 OR 800, 800 SQUARE FEET SPACE WHENEVER SHE'S READY.
BUT I FEEL LIKE WHEN WE SAW HER, SHE DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT MOVING OUT, SO.
I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION IN TRA IT'S FOR TRAVIS ACTUALLY, AND IT FALLS BACK IN THE UDC CONVERSATION.
WHAT'D YOU GOT? IT'S LIKE ANYTHING BUT THAT, BRING IT ON.
SO THINKING BACK TO THE FORMER ZONING, DO YOU HAVE, DO YOU HAVE ACCESS TO A PREVIOUSLY ZONED MAP OF THAT AREA? UH, WE DO THE CURRENT, WE ARE, OUR CURRENT GIS MAP HAS A FILTER TO SHOW OLD ZONING VERSUS CURRENT ZONING.
THAT ENTIRE AREA USED TO BE GENERAL COMMERCIAL.
DID IT NOT? I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE PREVIOUS ZONING.
WHERE ARE YOU GOING WITH IT? I, I CAN LOOK.
WELL, I MAKE SURE THEY UPDATE THE REST OF AROUND THE SIDES AND BACK.
WELL, I MEAN, YEAH, JUST THE WHOLE AREA I GUESS.
TO ASK FOR, UH, THE POINT BEING IN JUST KIND OF MAKING A POINT BACK TO THE REZONING OF ALL THIS STUFF, THIS GUY HAS TO GO THROUGH A REZONING PROCESS THAT A YEAR AGO HE WOULD NOT HAVE HAD TO AT ALL.
IT WAS ALREADY GENERAL COMMERCIAL.
HE COULD HAVE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY AND MOVED ON, GOT PERMITTING
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AND EVERYTHING APPROPRIATELY.BUT NOW HE HAS AN EXTRA STEP, WHICH COMES WITH EXTRA COST.
AND, YOU KNOW, JUST, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS, MAN, I, I DON'T LIKE IT.
I DON'T, UH, AND I'M NOT BLAMING YOU, TRAVIS, ANYBODY, IT'S JUST THIS IS CREATING ADDITIONAL CHALLENGES TO PEOPLE.
'CAUSE WE'VE CREATED NEW ZONING THAT HAS AFFECTED PEOPLE FOR 30 YEARS, IS KIND OF, I THINK ABOUT 35 YEARS AGO IS WHEN WE KIND OF STARTED THE ZONING OF THE AREA.
AND THEN JUST IN LAST YEAR, WE JUST KIND OF TOSSED ALL THAT AND REZONED EVERYTHING.
AND NOW WE HAVE AN URBAN TRANSITION.
AND I WON'T GET INTO THE COST ASSOCIATED, BUT I'M ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN, I'M AWARE OF THE TIME ASSOCIATED AND THE TIME IT TAKES BEFORE YOU GET YOUR PERMIT, YOUR APPLICATION REVIEWED, APPROVED, WAIT A COUPLE OF WEEKS TILL A WEEK AND GET TOGETHER.
AND THEN HE IS GOT ANOTHER TWO WEEKS BEFORE IT GOES TO COUNCIL.
THEN HE IS GOTTA WAIT TWO MORE WEEKS AFTER THAT SO THEY CAN APPROVE IT.
SO HE'S LOOKING AT AS A PROJECT, IF THE WORLD TURNS PERFECTLY, HE'S LOOKING AT TWO MONTHS FROM THE DAY HE SAYS, I FEEL LIKE MAKING A RUN ON THIS.
AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, A YEAR AGO, HE COULD HAVE CLOSED ON IT AND STARTED DOING CONSTRUCTION AS SOON AS HE HAD A PERMIT.
SO WHAT, WHAT'S THE POINT? I MEAN, THE POINT IS I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M GRIPING MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
SO, SO I'M HEARING BACK BACK WHAT TRAVIS SAID, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE IN OUR BAILIWICK.
WE NEED TO PUT THEM IN THE FORM OF AN EMAIL.
SEND THEM OFF TO SO THAT, THAT WE CAN GET, GET A COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, GET TOGETHER AS A GROUP OR WHATEVER MM-HMM
AND, AND, AND MAKE THE CHANGES THAT, THAT YOU'RE GRIPING ABOUT.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW I'M JUST GRIPING FOR THE SAKE OF GRIPING AND THAT'S NOT BENEFICIAL.
SO THAT BEING SAID, AND THIS IS AGAIN A LITTLE BIT OFF, WE'RE GONNA GET BACK ON HIS TOPIC HERE A SEC.
IS THERE ANY DOCUMENT WE HAVE ANYWHERE THAT HAS URBAN TRANSITION, DOWNTOWN CORRELATES TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL WHERE WE CAN SEE HOW THEY PARALLELED EACH OTHER? AND IT'S NOT GONNA BE FOR TONIGHT.
I KNOW I COULD PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER THAT WOULD SHOW THE PERMITTED USES THAT WERE IN GC AND WE COULD DO ONE PER PERMITTED USES IN URBAN TRANSITION DOWNTOWN.
I THINK THIS WHOLE COMMITTEE WOULD PROBABLY REALLY APPRECIATE SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE MM-HMM.
I THINK THAT WOULD DOVETAIL BEAUTIFULLY INTO EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
TO QUIT COMPLAINING WITHOUT A, A SOLUTION.
AND, UH, KIND OF HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
'CAUSE LIKE I SAID, THIS GENTLEMAN HERE, I APPRECIATE IT.
UH, LIKE I SAID, A YEAR AGO HE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD TO GO THROUGH THIS PORTION OF IT.
NO, UH, MY FIRST INTERACTION WITH HIM, I THINK HE ACTUALLY MET, UH, DAVE, OUR EDC DIRECTOR AT, UH, WAS IT ICSC? DO YOU MEET, YOU MET DAVE FUNK OVER THERE.
HE LOCAL, WE MET HIM AT A LOCAL EVENT AND, AND YOU KNOW, HE GOT HIM IN TOUCH WITH ME.
AND SO MYSELF AND DAVE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH HIM FOR A FEW MONTHS AND HE UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS.
HE'S BEEN WORKING WITH US GREAT.
AND HE UNDERSTANDS, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM.
BUT, UH, WE DO UNDERSTAND THE EXTRA STEPS.
WE DO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THE PROCESS.
AND I WILL QUIT COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT PORTION OF IT.
I PERSONALLY DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS.
UH, I, I WOULD SAY I, IT LOOKS LIKE A GREAT IDEA.
THAT FACILITY HAS BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME.
THERE'S BEEN SOME LONG, LONG TERM, UH, TENANTS IN THERE.
IT'S HAD ITS BETTER DAYS, IT'S HAD ITS WORST DAYS.
UH, I WOULD PERSONALLY THINK IF YOU COULD COME IN AND YOU COULD RENOVATE IT AND MAKE THE ENTIRE PROPERTY LOOK BETTER AND UH, AND MAKE AN IMPROVEMENT.
AND I'M GONNA SAY WHETHER I VISIT THESE, UH, COMPANIES ARE NOT AS IRRELEVANT.
THEY'VE BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME AND I'D LIKE TO SEE 'EM STAY 'CAUSE THEY ARE PART OF OUR COMMUNITY AT THIS POINT.
IS A MOTION NOW IN THERE IS NO MOTION YET.
DOES ANYBODY I KNOW THAT WE, UM, ACCEPT THIS, UM, ZONING CHANGE.
UM, ANY MORE COMMENTS, CONCERNS? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING GETS UPDATED IF ON THE ENTIRE BUILDING, ALL THE OTHER BUILDINGS GET UPDATED.
I WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE IN THERE TO UPDATE ALL THE OTHER STUFF BECAUSE I NEED THE FACEBOOK ADD THAT AS A CONDITION.
BUT SHE WOULD HAVE TO ADD IT AS A CONDITION IF SHE WANTS TO.
I'M TRYING TO THINK OF HOW YOU WOULD WORD THAT EXACTLY.
AND NOT LIKE HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF LEGALESE ON IT.
UH, I I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN IN A ZONING CAN.
I MEAN, I WAS GONNA SAY YOU'RE TALKING SIMPLY.
THEY'RE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE.
WELL, THEY'RE NOT REALLY ASKING, IS THAT REALLY NECESSARY? THIS IS A ZONING MAP.
I MEAN, I'M PICKING UP WHAT YOU'RE LAYING DOWN MAR MARJORIE.
I AM, BUT I'M KIND OF WITH HIM TOO.
AND I AGREE WITH WHAT PHIL'S SAYING.
MAKE THE WHOLE PLACE LOOK NICE.
AND I'M CERTAIN, AS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU'VE GOT THREE ADDITIONAL SITES THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE DEVELOPING.
I DON'T, I THINK WHATEVER NEW BUILDINGS YOU'RE GONNA BUILD WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO BE
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MODERN AND LOOK NICE OR PEOPLE AREN'T GONNA COME TO IT.AND I DON'T THINK YOU WANT AN ALBATROSS AROUND YOUR NECK, SITTING IN YOUR BACKYARD.
SO I'M GONNA GO ON A LIMB AND SAY YOUR FACADE WILL BE QUITE DELIGHTFUL.
AND WE, I DO KNOW FOR A FACT WE'VE GOT SOME GREAT CODE REQUIREMENTS LIKE ON THE BACK ALLEYS AND EVERYTHING THAT'S GOTTA BE CLEAN.
ALL YOUR TRASH CANS GOTTA BE COVERED.
AND SO THERE'LL BE CODE ENFORCEMENT ON ALL THOSE ITEMS. THE DOWNTOWN ZONING DISTRICT DOES HAVE BUILDING STANDARDS, UH, DIFFERENT FROM, YOU KNOW, STATE LAW PROHIBITED YOU FROM REQUIRING CERTAIN MATERIALS.
UH, HOWEVER WE CAN REQUIRE CERTAIN BUILDING DESIGNS.
THERE'S LIKE ARTICULATION, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT FRONT FACADE, STUFF LIKE THAT.
DO YOU FEEL ANY NEED TO ASK ANY CHANGE? OKAY.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
I THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH FOR COMING TONIGHT.