* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:02] ALL RIGHT, LET'S GET THIS THING STARTED. SO THIS IS, [1. CALL TO ORDER AND CERTIFICATION OF A QUORUM] UH, OUR CALL TO ORDER. IT IS SIX O'CLOCK, UM, AND WE HAVE OUR REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING, UM, JANUARY 28TH, 2025. AND, UH, JUST NEED A CERTIFICATE OF A QUORUM. MAYOR, TRAVIS OLO HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER JOHNNY SIMPSON. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER JENNA SIMPSON. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER MARK TOWNSEND. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER JESSE BRANTLEY. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER BILL SCHICK HERE. AND COUNCIL MEMBER FRED LINTON HERE. WE HAVE QUORUM. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AND, UH, IF EVERYONE WOULD PRE PLEASE RISE FOR THE INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, IF COUNCIL MEMBER SIMPSON WOULD FOLLOW US AND FOLLOW OR LEAD US IN THE INVOCATION. AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER SCH WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. LET US PRAY. OH LORD, OUR GOD, HOW EXCELLENT IS YOUR NAME? FROM THE RISING OF THE SUN TO THE GOING DOWN OF THE SAME. YOUR NAME IS GREAT AND GREATLY TO BE PRAISED. UH, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO GATHER TOGETHER. FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN THE BUILDING, THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING ONLINE, WE ASK A BLESSING UPON THIS CITY, THIS COUNTY, THIS STATE, AND THIS GREAT NATION. IN CHRIST'S NAME WE PRAY, AMEN. AMEN. PLEDGE TO THE US FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL TEXAS. FLAG, TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO BE TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD. ONE INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU TWO FOR THAT. AND THEN, [3.A Recognition certificate from the office of Congressman Randy Weber, 14th District, Texas to the City Council of Dickinson, Texas.] UH, THE NEXT THING WE HAVE IS WE ACTUALLY HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM, UH, CONGRESSMAN RANDY WEBER OF THE 14TH DISTRICT, TEXAS, TO THE CITY OF COUNCIL OF, OR WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM RANDY WEBER'S OFFICE. YEP. THERE YOU GO. SORRY ABOUT THAT. THAT'S OKAY. HI, MY NAME IS AMBER MURRAY. I'M WITH CONGRESSMAN RANDY WEBER'S OFFICE. RECENTLY, THE CONGRESSMAN PRESENTED A FLOOR SPEECH RECOGNIZING THE CITY OF DICKINSON FOR 200 YEARS. AND SO WE WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE THE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD AND PLAQUE TO THE CITY JUST FOR Y'ALL TO HAVE, AND VERY GRATEFUL THAT HE'S ABLE TO REPRESENT Y'ALL IN THIS DISTRICT. SO, I KNOW Y'ALL JUST SAT DOWN, BUT IF WE COULD TAKE A PHOTO. . YEAH, RIGHT. 1, 2, 3. PERFECT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO NOW [4. ANNOUNCEMENTS AND PRESENTATIONS] WE HAVE, UH, ANNOUNCEMENTS AND, UH, PRESENTATIONS. UH, IF WE'D LIKE COUNCIL'S, UH, COMMENTS OR ANNOUNCEMENTS. START WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER LENTON, IF YOU HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS. UH, YES, MAYOR. UM, GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. WELCOME. UH, JUST A COUPLE THINGS I WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW. I ATTENDED THE HUGHES ROAD MEETING TO DISCUSS THE CONSTRUCTION PAN PLANS. TALKED WITH ENGINEERS, UH, CONTRACTORS, UM, SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. AND, UM, UH, COUNCILMAN SCHICK WAS ALSO THERE. UM, I, UH, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME NOTIFICATIONS THAT ARE GONNA BE COMING OUT THAT'S GONNA BE COORDINATED BETWEEN, UH, CITY AND I BELIEVE THE, UH, DICKINSON WATER DISTRICT. UH, I RECOMMENDED UTILIZING THE DICKINSON ALERT SYSTEM FOR THIS EVENT. SINCE, UM, EVERYBODY HAS A CELL PHONE, IT SEEMS LIKE A GOOD IDEA. THE CITY STARTED LOOKING INTO THAT, UH, TO USE IT FOR NOT ONLY THIS EVENT AND LET PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THE ONGOING CONSTRUCTION, UH, AND THINGS TO LOOK OUT FOR, BUT ALSO OTHER IMPORTANT NON WEATHER EVENTS. RIGHT NOW, IT SEEMS TO BE ONLY USED FOR WEATHER EVENTS. UM, SHELTER, UH, THE ANIMAL SHELTER WAS SUCCESSFUL AT REDUCING THEIR NUMBERS AND MET THEIR QUOTA OF 60 ANIMALS. UH, CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR SHELTER MANAGER, NITA BAKER AND ALL THE EMPLOYEES AND VOLUNTEERS FOR DOING SUCH A GREAT JOB, UH, AND CONCERNING VOLUNTEERING. UH, COUNCILMAN BRANTLEY, THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME A CALL ON THE, UH, SNOW DAY. UH, COUNCILMAN BRANTLEY AND MYSELF WENT TO THE SHELTER TO HELP OUT AND, UH, DID NOT EVEN ASK FOR A PHOTO OP. UM, I WAS GLAD WE COULD HELP THEM OUT. [00:05:01] UM, LAST COUPLE THINGS, RECYCLING. UM, PLEASE CHECK OUT THE DICKINSON WATER DISTRICT WEBSITE@WCIDONE.COM. THEY HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE STELLAR ROBERTS RECYCLING CENTER, AND IT'LL GIVE YOU A LIST OF ALL THE ITEMS THEY RECYCLE. I WAS DOING A BIT OF RESEARCH ON BATTERIES SPECIFICALLY. UM, THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR, UH, RECHARGEABLE BATTERIES, WHICH I HIGHLY RECOMMEND. YOU START REPLACING YOUR ALKALINE, UH, DISPOSABLE BATTERIES WITH RECYCLING BATTERIES. AS SOON AS YOU CAN, YOU CAN DO YOUR EDUCATE YOURSELF ONLINE. UH, THE ADVANTAGES OF THAT HELPS CUT DOWN ON, UH, LANDFILL WASTE. UH, THERE IS ONLY ONE LOCATION THAT I FOUND IN THE AREA THAT WILL RECYCLE, UH, DISPOSABLE ALKALINE BATTERIES, AND THAT SEEMS TO BE STAPLES. UM, AND THEN THE LAST COUPLE THINGS. I HAVE RELATIVES IN CALIFORNIA. UM, I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY, UH, THINKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE IN ALL THE FIRES AND, UM, PEOPLE THAT HAVE LOST THEIR HOMES IN CALIFORNIA. UH, IF YOU WANT TO TRY AND HELP, UH, PLEASE GO OUT TO, UM, SOME OF THE WEBSITES SUCH AS, UH, RED CROSS AND, UH, DO WHAT YOU CAN. UH, MY RELATIVES ARE OKAY. UM, AND THE LAST THING, UM, THE PASSING OF PRESIDENT CARTER. UM, I, UH, WAS TOO YOUNG TO VOTE AT THAT TIME. UM, BUT HE, UH, HE WAS, UH, SOMEBODY THAT REPRESENTED SOME, UH, THE, THE VALUES THAT I TRY TO LIVE MY LIFE BY, UH, HONOR, INTEGRITY, AND, YOU KNOW, AND HONESTY. AND THOSE THINGS ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO ME. UM, AND SO, UM, ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY. UM, I'M GOING TO, UH, I, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO OTHER, UM, YOU KNOW, POLITICAL OFF SHOULDERS, UM, FOLLOWING HIS LEAD. AND THAT'S ALL I HAD. THANKS EVERYBODY FOR BEING HERE. UH, IT SEEMS LIKE A LONG TIME SINCE WE'VE HAD OUR, UH, OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING. WE'VE HAD A TORNADO IN TOWN AND FOUR INCHES OF SNOW. I WANT TO COMMEND PUBLIC WORKS AND CITY STAFF. UH, I HEARD VERY FEW COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE HANDLING OF BOTH OF THOSE EVENTS. THE ONLY COMPLAINT THAT I HEARD, AND WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING INTO THIS, IS WE STILL OPERATE A CIVIL DEFENSE SIREN AT THE OLD FIRE STATION THAT MAYBE THAT MIGHT, COULD HAVE BEEN PUT INTO TO, UH, SERVICE TO LET PEOPLE KNOW OF THE IMPENDING TORNADO. UH, I'LL BE PERFECTLY HONEST, I'VE LIVED IN THIS TOWN 24 YEARS, AND THE ONLY TIME I THINK ABOUT IT IS ON THURSDAYS AT 12:00 PM WHEN THEY TEST IT. UH, DON'T KNOW THAT EVEN IN THE RAIN THAT WE COULD HAVE HEARD IT, BUT IT, IT IS AN OPTION. THE ALERT SYSTEM IS, UH, IS GOOD. NOT ALL OF US PICK OUR PHONE UP IMMEDIATELY WHEN WE GET AN ALERT, AND THAT WAS A VERY FAST MOVING STORM. BUT AGAIN, CITY STAFF, UH, DEREK, I MEAN, THEY KEPT US ALL INFORMED WHAT WAS GOING ON. THEO, UH, REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. UH, I ATTENDED THE, UH, GALVESTON COUNTY MAYOR, UH, COUNCIL EVENT IN, IN GALVESTON. WE HAD QUITE A FEW PEOPLE THAT, UH, SHOWED UP TO THAT. IT WAS A GOOD EVENT. GOT TO MEET A LOT OF OUR, UH, CONTEMPORARIES. UH, WE HAVE SET UP A MONTHLY MEETING WITH THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, UH, IN, IN GALVESTON. AND WE'RE GONNA ROTATE, UH, THERE, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO REBUILD A, UH, RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COUNTY. WE HAD ONE, UH, A MONTH AGO, AND WE, WE WILL HAVE ONE IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO. I THINK IT'LL BE VERY BENEFICIAL. 'CAUSE I THINK IF YOU DON'T SIT DOWN WITH THOSE FOLKS ON A REGULAR BASIS, THEY KIND OF FORGET ABOUT US. WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT FORGOTTEN. UH, ATTENDED THE HGAC MEETING WITH, UH, COUNCILMAN TOWNSEND AND COUNCILMAN, UH, SIMPSON. IT WAS, UH, QUITE A NICE MEETING, SWEARING AT OFFICERS. UH, ALSO ATTENDED THE HUGHES ROAD, UH, DRAINAGE PROJECT MEETING. IT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE. THERE'LL BE ANOTHER MEETING TO DEAL WITH THE TRAFFIC, UH, THAT IT'S GONNA CREATE. AND, UH, EVERYBODY IS WELCOME TO. UH, IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, CONTACT ME. I'LL BE GLAD TO ASK IT FOR YOU AND PUBLISH WHAT THE ANSWERS THAT WE GET, UH, ATTENDED THE EDC MEETING, UH, THE JANUARY MEETING. BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT I HAVE IS WE NEED TO KEEP MISS SUE EMMETT IN OUR PRAYERS. SHE IS DOING A LITTLE BIT BETTER, BUT I THINK SHE'S GOING ON MONTH TWO OF BEING IN THE HOSPITAL. THANK YOU. THANKS, BILL. FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW, MS. SUE, SHE'S AN INSTITUTION IN THIS CITY. UH, SO I [00:10:01] CAN PROBABLY SPEAK FOR EVERYONE HERE, ESPECIALLY UP ON THE DAES. WHEN YOU LOOK OUT INTO THE CROWD, YOU DON'T SEE MS. SUE. IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT YOU, THAT YOU NOTICE, RIGHT? THERE'S SOME THAT COME TO MEETINGS DEPENDING ON WHAT'S GOING ON. UH, BUT, UM, THEN THERE'S SOME FOLKS THAT ARE HERE EVERY SINGLE MEETING. UH, AND THAT'S MS. SUE. SO NO MATTER WHETHER YOU'RE ON A BOARD OR YOU'RE ON CITY COUNCIL, WHEN YOU LOOK OUT IN THE CROWD, YOU ALWAYS LOOK TO SEE MS. SUE. UM, SO, UH, YES, PRAYERS FOR HER. UM, SORRY, MY COMMENTS TONIGHT ARE GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN WHAT THEY NORMALLY ARE. UH, I GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS. FIRST OFF, THANKS, EVERYBODY THAT'S HERE. UM, THANKS TO EVERYBODY THAT'S WATCHING THE MEETING ONLINE. UM, I, UH, I, I DON'T THINK THAT WE RECOGNIZE FOLKS THAT COME TO MEETINGS AND FOLKS THAT LISTEN ONLINE LIKE WE SHOULD SOMETIMES. UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT'S, IT, IT SEEMS ALMOST LIKE A, YOU KNOW, AN OBLIGATION JUST TO THANK PEOPLE FOR SHOWING UP OR, OR, YOU KNOW, LISTENING IN ONLINE. BUT, UM, I THINK I SPEAK FOR MOST EVERYBODY WHEN I SAY, WE TRULY DO APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. UM, AND, AND THAT LEADS ME TO SOME OTHER COMMENTS THAT I WANT TO MAKE. UH, I HAVE CONTINUED TO LEARN DURING MY TIME ON COUNCIL ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS. UM, I'VE PROBABLY LEARNED AS MUCH ABOUT MYSELF AS I HAVE ABOUT OTHERS. UM, AND, UH, MY TIME ON COUNCIL HAS, I'D LOVE TO SAY IT'S BEEN FUN, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN SAY IT'S BEEN FUN. UM, I WILL SAY THAT, UH, I, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU END UP TAKING SOME THINGS FOR GRANTED, AND I WANT TO ADDRESS SOME OF THAT. UM, YOU KNOW, I RECENTLY GOT INVOLVED IN SOME DISCUSSIONS ONLINE, UH, AND THAT PROMPTED ME TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEONE. UM, AND I ALWAYS HAVE A GREAT CONVERSATION WHEN I TALK TO THIS INDIVIDUAL, AND I'M NOT GONNA CALL 'EM OUT, BUT, UH, THEY'VE REALLY FORCED ME TO LEARN A LOT ABOUT MYSELF AND LEARN A LOT ABOUT, UM, HOW I CARRY MYSELF. AND THEN AMONGST THE OTHER THINGS, UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE REALLY SPENT A LOT OF TIME LOOKING INWARD. UM, RECENTLY, UH, SOME THINGS WERE POSTED ONLINE ABOUT MY PAST. AND I'M GLAD, UM, UH, TO THE FOLKS THAT POSTED IT, UM, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU. UM, I DON'T EVER THINK THAT IT IS ACCEPTABLE. THERE ARE FOLKS IN THIS ROOM WHO HAVE BEEN SUBJECTED TO THEIR PAST BEING BROUGHT UP, UH, AS A WAY TO JUDGE THAT IN THOSE INDIVIDUALS, UM, AND QUESTION THEIR MOTIVATIONS. AND THAT'S NOT FAIR. UM, IT'S NOT FAIR TO JUDGE INDIVIDUALS BASED ON SOMETHING THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN IN THEIR PAST. BUT I DO WANT TO ADDRESS MINE. UM, AND THIS IS A REAL OPPORTUNITY FOR ME, UH, BECAUSE, AND I'M, I'M GLAD IT WAS POSTED WHEN I WAS YOUNGER. I HAD A PROBLEM WITH DRUGS AND ALCOHOL, AND I GOT ARRESTED FOR IT, UH, MULTIPLE TIMES, UM, IN THE LATE NINETIES AND EARLY TWO THOUSANDS. AND THAT'S NOT WHO I AM NOW. AND HERE'S WHY I'M SO GLAD THAT THEY POSTED IT AND WHY, YOU KNOW, WHEN I'M ALL SAID AND DONE ON COUNCIL, THIS IS MAYBE ONE REGRET THAT I'M GONNA HAVE. THE REASON WHY I AM NOT THAT PERSON ANYMORE IS BECAUSE OF MY LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST. AND I AM A CHANGED PERSON. AND I KNOW THAT, THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS IN THIS ROOM THAT I APPLIES TO. AND SO I ALWAYS TRY AND LEAD FIRST WITH MY FAITH. AND, UH, MAYBE I HAVEN'T OUTWARDLY SHOWN THAT ENOUGH. AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT I'M PERFECT. I HAVE MADE MISTAKES WHILE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL. I'VE MADE POOR DECISIONS, AND I WILL OWN THEM. AND I WILL CONFESS TO EVERYONE HERE AND EVERYBODY LISTENING ONLINE, AND ANYBODY THAT EVER ASKS, I'VE MADE MISTAKES. UM, BUT WHAT TENDS TO HAPPEN IS WE TEND TO WANT TO VILIFY INDIVIDUALS BASED ON A PRECONCEIVED NOTION OR SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY SAYS AGAINST THEM. THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO GET PAST. YOU KNOW? UM, WE LIKE TO THROW AROUND WORDS, UH, YOU KNOW, WORDS THAT, UH, DESCRIPTIVE WORDS THAT ARE UNFAIR TO THE INDIVIDUAL THAT WE'RE ASSESSING THEIR PERFORMANCE, RIGHT? UM, AND IT'S NOT EASY TO PUT YOURSELF OUT THERE AND STEP INTO A VOLUNTEER ROLE. UH, AND SO WE'RE COMING UP ON AN ELECTION, AND I HOPE FOLKS SIGN UP TO RUN FOR OFFICE, BUT I WILL TELL YOU, IT AIN'T EASY. UH, IT'S NOT FUN. AND NO MATTER WHAT YOUR MOTIVATION [00:15:01] IS, NO MATTER WHERE YOU MAY THINK YOUR HEART IS, UM, YOU, YOU HAVE TO DEVELOP SOME THICK SKIN. YOU KNOW? AND I HAVE TRIED VERY HARD TO LISTEN, EVEN THOUGH I MAY NOT AGREE WITH THE INDIVIDUAL PRESENTING THE, WHATEVER THEIR ISSUE IS THAT THEY WANT TO PRESENT. UM, YOU KNOW, I MAY HAVE FUNDAMENTAL DISAGREEMENTS WITH 'EM, RIGHT? BUT I STILL TRY AND LISTEN, IT'S STILL MY JOB TO LISTEN AND TRY AND AFFECT POLICY BASED ON WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY. AND WHAT'S UNFORTUNATE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, I CAN SPEAK FOR ALL SEVEN UP HERE, THAT IN SOME WAYS, SHAPE OR FORM, THERE HAS BEEN POLICY THAT HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED BASED ON SOME OF THE FOLKS WHO ARE THE MOST CRITICAL OF THIS BODY. UM, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE DO A, WE DON'T DO A VERY GOOD JOB OF REACHING OUT TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS, AND THOSE INDIVIDUALS DON'T DO A VERY GOOD JOB OF REACHING OUT TO US ON ISSUES, RIGHT? AND WHAT I'M REALLY THANKFUL FOR ARE THE INDIVIDUALS, SOME OF WHICH ARE HERE TONIGHT, THAT ARE WILLING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION. YOU KNOW, AND I SPOKE TO, UH, THE INDIVIDUAL, I'M, I'M REFERENCING, I SPOKE TO 'EM FOR ABOUT TWO HOURS, AND THERE WERE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE ABSOLUTELY AGREE ON, AND THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE SAY, OKAY, WELL, WE'RE GONNA AGREE TO DISAGREE ON THAT, AND THAT'S OKAY. RIGHT? AND SO, THE ONLY WAY THAT WE ARE GONNA CONTINUE TO MOVE THIS CITY FORWARD IS BY HAVING DIALOGUE AND BY HAVING DISCUSSIONS, RIGHT? AND UNDERSTANDING THAT WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE TO GET ALONG. AND, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE TO DO IT THE WAY, YOU KNOW, I, I CAN TELL YOU FOR THE SEVEN FOLKS UP HERE, IF YOU ASKED US ALL HOW WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING, YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA GET SEVEN DIFFERENT ANSWERS, RIGHT? UM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE, WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO MOVE FORWARD, EVEN THOUGH IT MAY NOT BE THE WAY THAT I, OR TRAVIS OR MARK OR ANYBODY ELSE MIGHT WANT TO HAVE IT DONE, RIGHT? UM, BUT WE HAVE TO GET BETTER. WHOEVER SITS IN THESE SEATS HAS TO GET BETTER. IF COMMUNICATING WITH THE FOLKS, NOT WITH THE FOLKS THAT AGREE WITH US, THAT'S EASY. RIGHT? WE HAVE TO GET BETTER AT, AT, AT, AT ENGAGING AND HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH THE FOLKS THAT DON'T AGREE WITH US. AND WHAT I'VE LEARNED, AND I'M TRYING TO LEARN, IS SOMETIMES THAT TAKES US REACHING TO YOU, BUT IT'S OKAY FOR YOU TO REACH, REACH OUT TO US AS WELL, RIGHT? UM, BECAUSE HERE'S WHAT I REFUSE. I REFUSE TO TAKE A CYNICAL WORLDVIEW. I REFUSE TO ALLOW MYSELF TO GET CAUGHT UP IN CYNICISM AND START TO JUDGE PEOPLE'S MOTIVATIONS RATHER THAN LOOKING AT THEIR CONCERN, IF THAT MAKES SENSE, RIGHT? UM, AND SO CYNICISM IS A, A, A DEEP AND DARK, DARK, DANGEROUS PLACE TO GO, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT, IT ALLOWS YOU, YOU DON'T GET TO SEE THE LIGHT. YOU ONLY SEE THE DARKNESS, RIGHT? AND SO, UH, UH, THERE IS FAMOUS QUOTE, UM, THERE, THERE IS NOTHING THAT IS SO WRONG WITH US THAT WE CAN'T FIX BY WHAT IS SO, RIGHT? RIGHT? AND SO, WHAT I KNOW IS, IS THAT AS A, A PEOPLE, A TOWN, A CITIZENRY, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT, RIGHT? THERE, IS, WE HAVE A LOT MORE GOING FOR US THAN WE GOT GOING AGAINST US. AND EVERYBODY CAN'T BE BAD ALL THE TIME. AND SO WE HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB BOTH WITH THE, THE FOLKS THAT SIT ON THAT SIDE, THE FOLKS THAT SIT ON THIS SIDE. WE HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB OF ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THERE'S THINGS THAT WE SCREW UP. I'M, I'LL BE THE FIRST ONE TO TELL YOU. THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS THAT I'VE SCREWED UP. THERE'S THINGS THAT I'D TAKE BACK, BUT WE DON'T GET TAKEBACKS, RIGHT? YOU APOLOGIZE FOR IT. YOU TRY TO MOVE FORWARD. BUT I CAN ALSO SAY THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE, WE DO, DO WELL, AND LET'S RECOGNIZE WHAT WE DO. WELL, LET'S LISTEN. LET'S ENGAGE WHEN THERE'S THINGS THAT WE DON'T DO WELL, AND THAT'S HOW WE MOVE FORWARD. SO, UH, SORRY FOR THE RANT, . UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A RANT, BUT SORRY FOR THE, YOU MIGHT GET THREE MORE OF THESE, RIGHT? UM, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, UM, I, I DO WANT TO, ONE OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY, UM, EACH PERSON THAT SITS ON THIS COUNCIL, UH, I HIGHLY RESPECT YOU. [00:20:01] I THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE. UH, LOTS OF THINGS THAT MAYBE WE DISAGREE ON, BUT THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS THAT I THINK THAT YOU DON'T GET RECOGNIZED FOR YOUR VALUE FOR. UM, AND THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE SOME OF THE BEST HEARTED INDIVIDUALS THAT YOU'LL MEET THAT I DON'T AGREE WITH THEM, MAYBE EVEN POLITICALLY, RIGHT? WE COULDN'T BE FURTHER FROM THE, FROM THE FURTHER APART. BUT I WILL TELL YOU, UM, IT, I, I THINK FOR EACH ONE OF US, IT PAINS EACH ONE OF US WHEN WE SEE EACH, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY GET ATTACKED AND IT'S NOT FAIR. AND IT'S HAPPENED TO FOLKS NOT SITTING AT THIS DAIS, AND IT'S NEVER RIGHT, RIGHT? LET'S EXCHANGE IDEAS, BECAUSE THE, THE PERSONAL STUFF, THERE'S NO VALUE IN IT. UM, LAST THING I'LL SAY IS, IS THAT, UH, I AM CHANGED. UM, AND IF YOU WANNA HEAR MORE ABOUT MORE ABOUT THAT, I'D LOVE TO TALK TO YOU. SO, UH, THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE. UH, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE AS MUCH OF A VOLUNTEER AS WE ARE, JUST IN THE FACT THAT YOU SHOW UP TO THESE MEETINGS AND VOICE YOUR OPINION. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, THAT'S ALL I GOT. COUNCIL MEMBER TOWNSEND, WELCOME EVERYBODY THAT'S HERE TONIGHT. HOPE EVERYBODY HAD A HAPPY NEW YEAR AND MERRY CHRISTMAS AND ALL THAT. EVERYBODY WAS SAFE. UH, IT'S THAT TIME OF YEAR FOR LONG. IN A COUPLE MONTHS, WE'LL BE APPOINTING PEOPLE TO DIFFERENT BOARDS AND REAPPOINT THE BOARDS. SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN BEING ON THE ONE OF THE BOARDS, THIS WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO GO IN AND FILL OUT THE APPLICATION. I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET INTO IT FOR THREE WEEKS. I HAVEN'T GOT THERE YET, SO I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW TO APPLY TO BE ON ONE OF THE BOARDS 'CAUSE I'VE YET TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THERE. AND I KNOW WHAT I'M, I KNOW WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR, SO I HAVEN'T GOT THERE. SO YOU MIGHT HAVE TO CALL UP HERE AND ASK SOMEBODY HOW TO GET THERE. BUT IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN BEING ON ANY OF THE BOARDS, THEY'LL PROBABLY BE STARTING IN AROUND JUNE OR JULY, GETTING APPOINTED OR REAPPOINTED. SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THAT, THIS BE A GOOD TIME TO GET INVOLVED. THANK YOU. THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT. UH, GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. THANK YOU FOR TUNING IN ONLINE, AND OF COURSE, HERE IN PERSON. WE ALWAYS APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT. THE CITY OF DICKINSON IS HOSTING A COMMUNITY INFORMATION SESSION ABOUT THE HUGHES ROAD DRAINAGE PROJECT AT MCADAMS JUNIOR HIGH AT 6:00 PM ON FEBRUARY 4TH. ANYONE IS WELCOME TO COME AND LISTEN AND LEARN AND ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT. I WANTED TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE DICKINSON YOUTH ACTION COUNCIL. THIS IS OUR 10 STUDENTS FROM DICKINSON HIGH SCHOOL THAT REPRESENT YOUTH INTEREST IN DICKINSON IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY. THEY HAD THEIR FIRST MEETING OF 2025 LAST WEEK TO LOOK AHEAD AT EVENTS AND OPPORTUNITIES TO INVOLVE THE YOUTH AND PEOPLE OF OUR COMMUNITY. A QUICK SUMMARY FROM OUR COMMITTEES INCLUDES ANOTHER ROUND OF CUSTOM STUDENT DESIGNED, I VOTED STICKERS TO BE MADE AVAILABLE DURING OUR NEXT 2025 ELECTION ROUND HERE IN DICKINSON. THIS MEANS THAT ANYWHERE YOU VOTE IN DICKINSON, YOU'LL RECEIVE A CUSTOM I VOTED STICKER WITH STUDENT ARTWORK. WE'RE STARTING THE PLANNING FOR OUR THIRD ANNUAL SUMMER TO SERVE ENGAGEMENT EXPO, TO BRING VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES TOGETHER IN ONE SPOT TO EXPOSE OUR COMMUNITY ON HOW TO GET INVOLVED AND FINALLY, WORK. WE ARE WORKING WITH THE CITY TO FORM THE FIRST EVER YOUTH LAW AND JUSTICE DAY THIS SPRING. THIS ONE DAY WORKSHOP PARTNERS WITH DICKINSON HIGH SCHOOL AND OUR CAREER TECHNICAL EDUCATION PROGRAM TO PROVIDE A REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE AND INFORMATIONAL PROGRAM FOR STUDENTS INTERESTED IN CAREERS IN LAW AND PUBLIC SAFETY. FROM A, FROM A PANEL OF LEGAL PROFESSIONALS, A FUTURE IS BRIGHT WITH THIS GROUP OF STUDENTS. THIS WEEK, THIS WEEKEND, I'LL BE TAKING SOME MEMBERS OF THE YOUTH ACTION COUNCIL TO THE TML YOUTH ADVISORY SUMMIT, WHERE WE'LL BRAG ON OUR PROJECTS AND COLLABORATE WITH OTHER YOUTH ADVISORY ORGANIZATIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL. WELCOME EVERYONE, UH, BOTH IN PERSON AND ONLINE. UH, AS, UH, SOME OF THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE SAID, MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY NEW YEAR, UH, SINCE BOTH HAVE HAPPENED SINCE WE, UH, LAST HAD A REGULAR MEETING, UM, ALSO ATTENDED, UH, SINCE THEN, AN HGAC, REGULAR BOARD MEETING, AND THE HGAC ANNUAL MEETING, UH, THAT COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, SCHICK REFERENCED. UM, HOPE EVERYBODY WAS SAFE, UH, DURING ALL THE WEATHER EVENTS THAT WE HAD. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO EXTEND CONDOLENCES, UH, TO THE FAMILY OF BETTY LESSER LONGTIME EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF MI LEWIS SOCIAL SERVICES. UH, I HAD THE PLEASURE OF SERVING ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR SEVERAL YEARS WHILE I WAS PASTOR OF FAITH UNITED METHODIST CHURCH. UH, MY PREDECESSOR ROLLED OFF THE BOARD TO ALLOW ME TO BE ON THE BOARD WHEN I BECAME THE PASTOR. AND THEN WHEN I GOT ASSIGNED TO A DIFFERENT CHURCH, I STEPPED DOWN TO ALLOW THE PERSON TO COME [00:25:01] AFTER ME TO HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY. BUT, UH, STILL KEPT IN CONTACT WITH, UH, BETTY LESSER SINCE THEN. UH, AND JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS MY CONDOLENCES AS SHE WAS A, UH, STAPLE AND A PILLAR OF THE DICKINSON COMMUNITY. THOSE ARE ALL MY COMMENTS, MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND I THINK, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TOWNSEND HAS ONE MORE ANNOUNCEMENT. I APOLOGIZE. UH, ALSO WANT TO GIVE OUR CONDOLENCES TO MR. HENDERSON. CORRECT? THERE WAS A CITY EMPLOYEE THAT PASSED AWAY. I MEANT TO DO THAT, AND I APOLOGIZE TO THE FAMILY FOR GETTING TO BRING IT UP. SO MY CONDOLENCES TO THAT FAMILY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. AND, UH, JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE AS WELL AS LISTENING ONLINE. UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY NEW, UH, ANNOUNCEMENTS BECAUSE I THINK EVERYONE HAS COVERED ALL THE THINGS I WAS GONNA SAY. UM, BUT, UH, SO I GUESS WE'LL GO RIGHT INTO THE CITY MANAGER UPDATE. THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL, A FEW THINGS. UH, FIRST, IF WE COULD, I'D LIKE TO, UH, INVITE, UH, COLIN COKER UP. UH, HE WAS, HE HAS A, A, A LITTLE, UH, ANNOUNCEMENT HE'D LIKE TO MAKE, UH, ON BEHALF OF, OF, UH, BAYOU FRIENDS FOREVER. AND SO, COLIN, IF YOU'D BE, UH, GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO COME UP DURING CITY MANAGER UPDATE, I'D APPRECIATE IT. I KIND OF WANNA FACE BOTH THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE DAIS. UM, THIS IS OUR BAYOU FRIENDS FOREVER TEAM. UH, THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH OUR ORGANIZATION STANDS FOR BAYOU FRIENDS FOREVER. WE HAVE, UH, WE'RE A 5 0 1 C3. UH, OUR, WE HAVE A 100% FOCUS ON RAISING FUNDS TO BENEFIT THE BAYOU ANIMAL SERVICES. OUR, OUR OWN, UH, ANIMAL SHELTER HERE IN IN TOWN, UH, WE'VE BEEN IN EXISTENCE THROUGH SINCE 2002. WE'VE HAD SOME PHENOMENAL FUNDRAISING EVENTS. OUR MAIN ONE EVERY YEAR IS CALLED THE BLACK TIE, TEXAS AT DICKINSON BAYOU RANCH. AND THE CITY, THE DISTRICT, UM, MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, AND THE, THE EDC HAVE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING US WITH SOME SMALL DONATIONS TO HELP GET US STARTED OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. AND IT'S BEEN VERY IMPACTFUL TO HELP US GROW OUR EVENT. SO WE WANTED TO RECOGNIZE, UH, JOHNNY WITH THE DMD AND WITH THE CITY, THEO AND, AND TRAVIS, MAYBE IF YOU GUYS COULD COME UP. WE'VE GOT A GIFT THAT WE'D LIKE TO PRESENT TO YOU ALL, AND THIS IS A REALLY COOL GIFT. TWE OUR PRESIDENT, UH, GOT THESE, SO THIS IS A BELT BUCKLE. AND THE BELT BUCKLE, UH, SAYS, BYE, YOU FRIENDS FOREVER. TOP DOG SPONSOR 2004, BLACK TIE, TEXAS. SHAWNEE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND YOU TWO, Y'ALL WANNA HOLD IT TOGETHER, MAYBE GET A, GET A PHOTO OP. I'M, I'M STAYING RANDOMLY HERE FOR SOME REASON. . EXCELLENT. THANK YOU, CAROLYN. THANKS AGAIN. UM, OUR, OUR NEXT EVENT FOR 2025. JUST A QUICK PLUG. WE NORMALLY HAVE THE EVENT IN EARLY, UH, KIND OF MID ISH SPRING TIME TIMEFRAME, BUT WE'VE MOVED IT BACK TO THIS NEXT FALL. I THINK WE'VE HONED IN ON THE DATE OF OCTOBER 18TH. WE HAVEN'T FIRMED IT UP YET. WE WILL SHORTLY, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO START PUBLICIZING THAT DATE. BUT WE DO ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO MARK THAT DATE. WE'RE TRYING TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO COMPETE WITH ANY SENSITIVE, UH, EVENTS THAT MAY BE GOING ON. UM, BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TONIGHT, ALTHOUGH I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA BELITTLE, UM, THE THANKS TO THE CITY AND THE DMD AND THE EDC, BUT IT TWE IF YOU WOULD COME UP HERE, PLEASE. ANYONE IN THIS ROOM WHO HAS DOES NOT KNOW TWE AND HER HUSBAND JUDD, AND I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE VERY MANY, YOU NEED TO GET TO KNOW THESE PEOPLE. JUDD'S SITTING DOWN HERE IN THE, IN THE AUDIENCE. AND TWE HAS BEEN THE PRESIDENT OF THE BFF SINCE ITS INCEPTION, AND TWE HAS RECENTLY RESIGNED TO FOCUS ON HER BUSINESS. AND I THINK STACEY AND I ARE GOING TO COME IN AND RELIEVE YOU TWO SO YOU CAN HAVE A DECENT DINNER BECAUSE YOU WORK SO MUCH. UM, BUT ON BEHALF OF THE TEAM, WE WANTED TO RECOGNIZE YOU. AND, AND ALTHOUGH, UH, A GIFT CERTIFICATE FOR DINNER AT MARE'S IS NICE, BUT THE, THE GIFT CARD IS TRIVIAL COMPARED TO WHAT YOU DO FOR THIS COMMUNITY, NOT JUST THROUGH BFF, BUT T IS AN AT THE EPITOME OF AN EXAMPLE [00:30:01] OF A GREAT RESIDENT WHO CARES, WHO WORKS HARD AND WHO MAKES A DIFFERENCE. AND SO, THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENCES ALL THESE PEOPLE HAVE ALL THE TIME, I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF THEM TOO. TWE IS THE EXCEPTION THAT STANDS OUT, AND WE SHOULD WANNA BE MORE LIKE YOU YOUNG LADY. YOU HAVE DONE A SUPERB JOB. SO THANKS FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COLIN. UH, NEXT STEP I WAS GONNA ASK FOR, UH, ASSISTANT TO THE CITY MANAGER, MATT MAGINA, IF YOU WOULD COME ON UP FOR OUR, UH, WE'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU GUYS AN UPDATE ON PUBLIC WORKS AND KIND OF SOME OF THE AFTERMATH OF OUR, OF OUR TWO STORM EVENTS SINCE THE LAST, UH, UH, MEETING. SO MATT, THANK YOU. YES, SIR, I CAN DO THAT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNSEL. UM, THANKS FOR HAVING ME HERE. I'M HERE TO REPRESENT PUBLIC WORKS THIS EVENING. FIRST, AS YOU KNOW, WE RECENTLY EXPERIENCED A TRAGIC, UNEXPECTED LOSS OF A COWORKER AND A FRIEND. I'D LIKE TO READ AN EMAIL THAT WAS SENT ON THE 14TH, IF YOU ALLOW ME. IT IS WITH A HEAVY HEART THAT I SHARE THE PASSING OF DENNIS HENDERSON, A DEDICATED, INVALUABLE EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY OF DICKINSON. SINCE JOINING US IN JANUARY OF 2022, DENNIS EXEMPLIFIED COMMITMENT, INTEGRITY, AND A RELENTLESS WORK ETHIC KNOWN FOR ALWAYS GOING THE EXTRA MILE. DENNIS FOUND FULFILLMENT AND STAYING BUSY AND CONTRIBUTING WHEREVER HE COULD. EARLIER THIS MONTH, DENNIS CELEBRATED THREE IMPACTFUL YEARS OF SERVICE WITH THE CITY. HIS CONTRIBUTIONS WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN OUR DAILY OPERATIONS, AND HE LEFT A LASTING MARK ON THOSE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO WORK ALONGSIDE HIM. HIS ABSENCE WILL DEEPLY, WILL BE DEEPLY FELT BY COLLEAGUES AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS ALIKE. AND, UH, THE CITY OF DICKINSON WAS HONORED TO KNOW SUCH A GREAT MAN. I KNOW I SPEAK FOR EVERYONE WHEN I SAY THAT WAS A PRIVILEGE TO WORK ALONGSIDE HIM. HIS PRESENCE WILL BE DEEPLY MISSED. SO WITH THAT, I DIDN'T KNOW DENNIS VERY WELL. UM, BUT IF YOU'RE UP THERE LISTENING TO ME, I'D LIKE YOU TO KNOW THAT. UH, I'M SURE YOU'D WANT ME TO MENTION THAT YOU'RE A PROUD GRADUATE OF LAMAR 1984 CLASS AND A STAUNCH DALLAS COWBOYS FAN. AND SO, UH, REST IN PEACE. COOL. D ON A LIGHTER NOTE, I'D LIKE TO TELL YOU THAT OUR SUPERINTENDENT, MR. VENABLE, HAS HIT THE GROUND RUNNING. WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED A PROACTIVE SCHEDULE FOR ASSIGNMENTS. IT'S BASED OFF OF ZONES AND PRIORITY. WE'RE GONNA SCHEDULE THAT. UM, WE'RE GONNA SOON HAVE THOSE SCHEDULES AND THAT MAP OUT ON OUR WEBSITE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE IT. WE ALSO PLAN TO START UTILIZING THE CITIZEN SIDE OF MYGOV SO THAT YOU CAN REPORT YOUR ISSUES AS WELL. WE DON'T HAVE A KICKOFF DAY FOR THAT, BUT WE'RE STILL WORKING ON IT. UH, MOWING EXCAVATING ACTIVITIES, WE'LL BE MEASURED ON A SQUARE FOOTAGE, AND WE'LL HAVE DAILY AND WEEKLY METRICS THAT ARE BASED GOALS. WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED A PROG A PROGRESSIVE STYLE OF POTHOLE CORRECTION. THAT'S, UH, ASPHALT PATCHING. POTHOLES WILL NOT NORMALLY BE BACKFILLED THE WAY THEY HAVE IN THE PAST AND TAMPERED DOWN, UM, WHICH CREATES A CIRCLE IN THE ROAD, BUT NOW WILL BE FIXED IN THE SAME METHODS AS MILLING AND OVERLAYING A ROAD. UM, THIS WILL NOT ONLY LAST LONGER, BUT HAVE A MORE VISUALLY AESTHETIC AND UNIFORM LOOK. UM, WE ALSO HAVE OUR, OUR, UH, EMPLOYEES CROSS TRAINING. AND SO WE'RE GETTING OUR, OUR WORK CREWS, UM, BETTER TRAINED AND SOME, UH, ON THE EQUIPMENT THAT THEY'RE BEING USED SO WE CAN GET A BIGGER BANG FOR OUR BUCK. UM, THE CREWS HAVE BEEN BUSY, AS YOU KNOW, WITH THE WINTER STORM. UM, WE TREATED THE ROADWAYS AND THE BRIDGES, UH, NOT ALL THE ROADWAYS, BUT SOME OF 'EM AND THE BRIDGES AT LEAST THREE TIMES PRIOR TO THE SNOW DAYS. UM, I'M SURE Y'ALL SAW THAT. AND, UH, WITH THE TORNADO AND THE STORM, WE HAVE NO REPORTED DAMAGE THAT WE'RE AWARE OF, UH, SURPRISINGLY ENOUGH. SO AS A RESULT OF THAT, I'D LIKE TO SAY THANKS TO OUR STAFF FOR ALL THE HOURS OF, UH, PRE-STORM PREPARATION THAT TOOK PLACE. UM, UPCOMING. WE HAVE A FEW MAJOR PROJECTS COMING DOWN THE ROAD. WE GOT WAGON ROAD, A 20 BY 28 FOOT ASPHALT ROAD PATCH, 3,300 NICHOLS. WE'RE GONNA BE EXCAVATING THE RIGHT OF WAY, 1700 OLENDER EXCAVATING THE RIGHT OF WAY. UH, 2,800 HUGHES ROAD, SAME THING, AND A CURB REPLACEMENT AT COLONIAL DRIVE IN WILLIAMSBURG. UM, WE ALSO HAVE A ROAD PATCH GOING ON AT 4,700 PLUM DRIVE. SO, UM, WITH THAT, I'D JUST LIKE TO TELL YOU THAT THEY'RE SUPER BUSY. UM, MR. VENABLE HAS DONE A GREAT JOB IN KIND OF RECONSTRUCTING OR TAKING A LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE'RE HEADED. AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT I, UH, MAY BE PREPARED TO ANSWER IF YOU HAVE ANY. ARE WE GONNA BE REPAVING ANY ROADS? UH, THERE'S PLENTY OF ROWS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE REPAVING AT SOME POINT, BUT I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT THAT SCHEDULE LOOKS LIKE THIS YEAR. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. WE'RE DEFINITELY GONNA BE DOING SOME ASPHALT PATCHING. YEAH, WELL, UH, I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING WITH MR. VENABLE. I THINK HE'S CURRENTLY ASSESSING, UH, THE CURRENT STAFF AND KIND OF SEEING [00:35:01] WHAT THEIR SKILL SET IS, WHERE THEY ARE, UM, TO SEE IF WE CAN DO THOSE IN-HOUSE, UH, OVERLAYS, UH, LIKE MIKE JONES WAS, WAS, UH, ALLUDING TO. SO, BUT I THINK MR. VENABLE IS WANTING TO KIND OF SEE HOW THEY DO ON THESE LONG STRETCH PATCHES BEFORE HE COMMITS TO SAYING, OKAY, AND HERE ARE THE ROADS WE'RE GONNA DO RIGHT NOW. UM, SO HOPEFULLY NEXT MONTH WE CAN MAYBE GET YOU A BETTER REPORT AT LEAST ON, UH, WHICH ONES WE CAN DO IN-HOUSE, YOU KNOW, OVERLAY FOR YOU, SIR. FOR SURE. NO, I HAD MENTIONED THAT, UH, UTAH, I THINK IT WAS BETWEEN 37TH AND FOURTH. YES, SIR. THAT ONE SMALL BLOCK TO KIND OF PRACTICE ON. SO YES, SIR. THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT TO QUICK. YES, SIR. YEAH, AND THAT'S WHY I THINK WE'RE GONNA DO THAT LONG STRETCH OF WAGON THAT'S GONNA KIND OF GIVE US KIND OF LIKE, 'CAUSE IT'S NOT A FULL STRETCH OF LIKE A FULL BLOCK OF ANYTHING. IT'S REALLY A LONG, YOU KNOW, SO IF THEY CAN DO THAT PRETTY WELL, THEN I THINK, UH, UH, OUR NEW PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR WILL BE A LITTLE MORE READY TO, TO SIT 'EM ON UTAH. THANK YOU. THANK Y'ALL. UH, NEXT UP I WANTED TO, UH, LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT, UH, UH, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, UH, UH, WE HAD A MEETING OF, UH, THE CEMETERY ROAD KIND OF STEERING COMMITTEE, WHICH IS REALLY JUST KIND OF CITY OFFICIALS, UH, MEETING WITH THE PLANNERS OF, UH, HGAC, UH, IS, IS SPEARHEADING THE, UH, CORRIDOR STUDY. UM, SO, UH, AND THEY VIEW AND THEY'RE USING, UH, HALF AN ASSOCIATES AS THE, UM, CONSULTANT FOR THAT. UM, ONE OF THE BIG THINGS TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, ANYTIME YOU'RE DEALING WITH STEERING COMMITTEES AND YOU'RE CREATING A CORRIDOR STUDY, YOU'RE STILL SITTING 10, 15 YEARS OUT FOR FUNDING. THIS IS JUST TO GET A PROJECT ON THE BOOKS WITH HGAC. UH, SO, UH, REALLY WHAT THIS IS DOING IS, IS REALLY ESTABLISHING, IS THERE A NEED FOR AN EXPANSION OF THE ROAD? IF SO, WHAT ARE THE PITFALLS, UM, OF THAT PROJECT? YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BIG ONES IS, YOU KNOW, WHICH WE'VE ALREADY HAVE BEEN HIGHLIGHTING IS, IS OBVIOUSLY THE PIPELINE CORRIDORS THAT RUN ALL ALONG THERE, IT'S GONNA MAKE IT REALLY, UH, UNIQUE IN HOW THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE, MAYBE EXPAND THAT ROAD. UH, I THINK WHAT PRECIPITATED THAT IS OBVIOUSLY LEAGUE CITY'S LOOKING AT EXTENDING HOBBS ROAD DOWN TO CEMETERY AT FIVE 17, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY, UH, A PROJECT THAT THAT LEAGUE CITY IS MOVING FORWARD. THEY HAVE FUNDED, THEY ARE GOING TO, UH, BRING, UH, HOBBES DOWN. SO, SO, UH, AT THIS TIME, YOU KNOW, UH, HGAC, UH, WORKING WITH, UH, MEMBERS OF TEXDOT AND, AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, REPRESENTATIVES OF LEAGUE CITY, DICKINSON, SANTA FE, JUST TRYING TO LOOK AT, OKAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, IS THERE GOING TO BE A NEED IN THE FUTURE? WHAT'S THE FUTURE GROWTH PATTERN AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE SO THAT THEY CAN THEN ESTABLISH A NEED ASSESSMENT. AND IF SO, WHAT ARE THE TYPE OF CROSS SECTIONS OF, OF ROAD THAT, THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY FOR THAT? OF COURSE, IT'S KIND OF HARD WHENEVER YOU'RE FORECASTING 10, 15, 20 YEARS INTO THE FUTURE. SO, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, IN FACT WE'RE, WE ARE KIND OF PUSHING BACK A LITTLE BIT, UM, 'CAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME DESIRE TO, TO REALLY EXPAND THE ROAD, BUT, BUT THERE'S SO MANY CONFLICTS, ESPECIALLY AS YOU GO SOUTH ON CEMETERY ROAD. SO WE'LL SEE WHAT, WE'LL SEE WHAT THE CONSULTANTS COME BACK WITH, AND HOPEFULLY ONCE WE, WE KIND OF HAVE, UH, CROSS SECTIONS FINALIZED AND HAVE OPTIONS, UH, I'D LIKE TO BRING THAT TO COUNCIL JUST SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHAT THEY'RE, UH, SAYING. COULD BE THE FUTURE OF CEMETERY ROAD. BUT PLEASE DO UNDERSTAND THAT'S WAY OUT INTO THE FUTURE. UH, THAT PROJECT'S NOT EVEN ON THE 10 YEAR PLAN, AND THAT'S USUALLY, UH, EVERYTHING'S ON THE 10 YEAR PLAN THAT'S GONNA GET FUNDED. SO, UH, SO IT'S NOT EVEN THERE YET. SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT. UM, HUGHES ROAD UPDATE, OF COURSE, AS YOU HEARD FROM COUNCIL MEMBER SIMPSON, WE DO HAVE AN OPEN HOUSE FEBRUARY 4TH AT 6:00 PM AT MCADAMS. WE ALSO HAVE ON FEBRUARY 11TH AT 6:00 PM UH, AN OPEN HOUSE AS WELL. AND THAT'LL BE AT LIVING FAITH OUTREACH. UH, THAT'S TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ONE OPEN HOUSE THAT'S GONNA BE NEAR THE SCHOOL, KIND OF WHERE THE HUGHES ROAD CONSTRUCTION'S GONNA BE, AND THEN TO HAVE ONE CLOSER UP ON NICHOLS, WHICH IS GONNA BE ANOTHER MAJOR WORK SITE. SO IT'S TO KIND OF GIVE, YOU KNOW, TWO AREAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO REACH OUT TO THE PUBLIC. TOMORROW WE WILL BE PUTTING OUT A MAJOR PUSH FOR THOSE, UH, THOSE OPEN HOUSES, BUT WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING FINALIZED FOR THE DATES AND TIMES FOR EVERYTHING. AND SO NOW YOU'LL START SEEING A, A, A PRETTY BIG PUSH TO, TO GET THOSE, UH, OPEN HOUSES DATES AND TIMES UP, UH, THURSDAY, UH, STAFF AND AND CONTRACTOR IS MEETING WITH DISD TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT, UH, ALL THE TRAFFIC CONTROL AROUND, UH, THE SCHOOLS, UH, OR, UH, YOU KNOW, TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION BUS ROUTES, TIMES FOR PICKUP AND DROP OFF, UH, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. AND TO WORK WITH, [00:40:01] UH, THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE NOT, UH, IMPEDING, UH, TOO HEAVILY ON THEIR OPERATION. SO THAT MEETING'S HAPPENING ON THURSDAY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT OUR DUCKS IN A ROW, UH, WITH THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT. I CAN, I'LL GET, I, I'LL FIGURE OUT, I'LL FIGURE OUT THE MEETING. I, I DON'T HAVE IT. I, I DIDN'T WRITE THAT DOWN. I JUST WROTE THE DATE DOWN. I APOLOGIZE. BUT I'LL GET THAT TO YOU ON THE, ON THE TIME FOR THAT. UM, UH, ALSO WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT, YOU GUYS PASSED AN ORDINANCE THAT GAVE, UH, THE, UH, CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER AND ALSO OUR FIRE MARSHAL AUTHORITY TO ISSUE CITATIONS. UM, UH, WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL WARNINGS, BUT HAVE ISSUED AT THIS TIME BETWEEN THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER AND FIRE MARSHAL 15 CITATION. SO OUR JUDGE IS GONNA HAVE A PRETTY FULL DOCKET AHEAD OF, OF HIM. UH, JUST A A FAIR WARNING, YOU MAY BE GETTING SOME CALLS IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE. UH, OF COURSE, THE MAIN THING IS SIMILAR TO A TICKET WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. ONCE, ONCE THAT TICKET'S FILED WITH THE COURT, THEN THE ONLY PERSON THAT CAN STRIKE THAT TICKET IS THE JUDGE IS, IS, IS OUT OF, UH, UH, ADMINISTRATION'S HANDS PRETTY MUCH AT THAT POINT. UM, WE, UH, ALSO WANTED TO KIND OF BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION AS WE'RE WORKING ON HUGHES ROAD, UM, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAME DOWN WITH A TWO PAGE MEMORANDUM SPEAKING TO, UH, HOW, UH, A, A PAUSE OF FEDERAL FUNDING, UM, UM, WHICH INCLUDES, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE USE ROAD PROJECT AND, AND MANY OF OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE KIND OF ONGOING AROUND THE STATE OF TEXAS. UM, AFTER READING A COUPLE OF WHITE PAPERS AND KIND OF WORKING WITH OUR, UH, REALLY SPEND A LOT OF TODAY, KIND OF COMBING THOSE WHITE PAPERS AND, AND GRANT ADMINISTRATORS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, UH, THE EXPECTATION IS THAT THAT PAUSE WILL NOT, UH, BE AFFECTING ANY OF THE, OF THESE PROJECTS. UM, BUT OMB DID SEND OUT KIND OF LIKE AN ALL CALL PAUSE BECAUSE, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PUTTING A PAUSE TO EVERYTHING THAT ISN'T A DIRECT SUBSIDY TO AN INDIVIDUAL PERSON. SO BASICALLY ANYTHING THAT IS FUNDED THROUGH WHAT WE CALL BLOCK GRANTS TO STATES ARE FROZEN, UH, FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. BUT EVERY WHITE PAPER I'M READING FOR, FROM GRANT ADMINISTRATORS, INCLUDING OUR OWN, UH, IS SAYING THAT THIS WILL BE A SHORT PAUSE. SO JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON YOUR, ON YOUR RADAR. UM, LASTLY, I WAS GONNA BRING UP, UH, UH, AND WE HAVE OUR AUDITOR HERE, AND THEY'LL BE PRESENTING FY 23 AND, AND LET YOU KNOW KIND OF ABOUT THE FY 24, UH, CALENDAR. UM, WORKING WITH, UH, MAYOR MAGLIO, UH, REALLY LOOKING AT, UH, THE ESTABLISHMENT OF, OF A FINANCE COMMITTEE. IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, UH, AT, AT A PREVIOUS MEETING, UH, TO HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, BUT ALSO MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO COULD WORK WITH OUR FINANCE STAFF TO WORK ON, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES, ACCOUNTABILITY STRUCTURES, MATRICES THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD MAKE A LOT OF SENSE. THAT COULD ALSO PROVIDE TRANSPARENCY TO THE PUBLIC, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. UM, I WAS ALSO WANTING THAT THIS FINANCE COMMITTEE THAT'S BEING ESTABLISHED, UH, WITH, UH, WITH MAYOR, UH, MAGLIO, UH, TO, UH, SERVE AS THE AUDIT COMMITTEE FOR OUR FY 24, SINCE WE'RE IN THE CURRENT AUDIT YEAR, WE'RE GONNA BE ON TIME TO START OUR AUDIT THAT THIS COMMITTEE BE, UH, UH, KIND OF A DEFACTO AUDIT COMMITTEE FOR FY 24. AND ALSO AS WE'RE LOOKING AT A, AS AT, UH, CREATING AND FUNDING, UH, CREATING AND HIRING THE CHIEF FINANCE OFFICER POSITION, THIS ROLE, THIS COMMITTEE BEING A MAJOR PART OF THE ADVISING OF THE, OF, OF, OF THAT, UH, UH, HIRING PROCESS. SO, UM, WITH, WITH THAT, I'M, I THINK WE'VE, I THINK THAT COVERS EVERYTHING FROM ME, SO THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL. ALRIGHT, AWESOME. THANK YOU. I'VE GOT JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS. YEAH, YEAH, GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN. UH, FIRST QUESTION IS A FOLLOW UP TO OUR LAST MEETING. WE TALKED ABOUT THE FUEL SPILL, AND I KNOW WE WERE WORKING ON A COUPLE OF THINGS FOR THAT. YES, SIR. I, I, MAYBE DEREK CAN SPEAK TO IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER. DEREK, ARE YOU? YEAH. IS DEREK HERE OR DID HE RUN AWAY? NO, HE'S NOT HERE. OH, HE RAN OFF. OKAY. SO ANSWER THAT, UH, UH, LAST TALK WE HAD, AND, AND THIS WAS RIGHT BEFORE, UH, RIGHT AROUND THE TORNADO TIME WAS, UH, WE ARE WAITING ON TCEQ TO FINALIZE, UH, THEIR, WE DID GET CONFIRMATION THEY ARE DOING A FULL ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATION INTO THAT SITUATION. SO WE'RE KIND OF WAITING ON THEIR FINDINGS, THOSE FINDINGS. AND WHAT I WANNA SEE IS THE FINAL SCOPE OF WHAT THE INVESTIGATION ACTUALLY ENTAILED, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE COVERING NOT JUST THE GRASS IN FRONT OF THE GAS STATION, BUT ALSO KIND OF DOWNSTREAM TO THE DITCH. AND IN THE EMBANKMENT. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IN TALKING WITH DERRICK, IS THAT THEY, THAT TCQ [00:45:01] DOES ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY HAD EYES ON THE EMBANKMENT AND THAT THEY DO KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN, UH, SOME PETROCHEMICALS, SOME HYDROCARBONS THAT DID TOUCH THAT EMBANKMENT. SO MY EXPECTATION IS THAT INVESTIGATION, THAT ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATION NEEDS TO INCLUDE THAT. SO I'M KIND OF JUST WAITING ON TCQ TO GIVE US BACK THAT SCOPE OF WHAT THEY'VE ACTUALLY DONE. AND SO I'LL HAVE DEREK REACH BACK OUT TO SEE IF THEY, HOW FAR OUT ARE THEY FOR THIS INVESTIGATION TO BE DONE? UM, I DO KNOW THAT, UM, THE, THE COMPANY IS, UH, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, COOPERATING WITH TCEQ, UM, UH, THAT, UH, THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT WAS NOT PROPER PROTOCOL AND, AND HOW THAT WAS HANDLED. UH, I THINK THAT'S PRETTY EASY TO SEE FROM THE VIDEO. UM, BUT MY, MY POINT BEING IS, IS THAT, IS THAT, UH, THEY ARE COOPERATING AT THIS TIME. SO I I I'M HOPEFUL THAT TCQ COMES BACK WITH A ROBUST REPORT FOR US SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO, UH, DO OUR OWN ENFORCEMENT. UH, BUT I AM WORKING WITH NIM UH, I BELIEVE NIM IS GONNA, UH, SAYS THAT THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO HAVE SOME ENFORCEMENT CAPABILITIES AS WELL. BUT YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT OUR JURISDICTION KIND OF JUST SITS IN THE CITY. WE REALLY WANT THE STATE. 'CAUSE THE STATE CAN REALLY GRAB, YOU KNOW, ASSETS AND, AND, AND HAVE A PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE AUTHORITY TO, TO USE A, USE A BIG STICK ON, ON THAT, UH, VIOLATION. WOULD, WOULD THAT BE CORRECT? NO, UH, YES, THAT'S CORRECT. AND ALSO, AS WE DISCUSSED, UH, THE PROVISIONS WE HAVE IN OUR ORDINANCE, UH, THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO SEEK REMEDIATION ALLOWS US THE ABILITY TO POTENTIALLY FILE A LIEN FOR THE COSTS AGAINST THE PROPERTY INVOLVED. EXCEPT THAT THE PROBLEM HERE IS THAT THE POTENTIALLY BAD ACTOR, THE COMPANY THAT SENT THE FUEL, UM, THE SPILL OCCURRED AT A GAS STATION THAT APPEARS TO BE BLAMELESS. AND SO, UH, THAT'S REALLY GOING TO, UH, HAMSTRING US. I THINK OUR CODE WAS INTENDED TO, UH, ALLOW US TO FILE A LIEN AGAINST THE PROPERTY, UH, AT WHERE WELL ACTUALLY OWNED BY THE BAD ACTOR WHERE A SPILL OCCURS. AND SO HERE WE, UH, WE DON'T HAVE THAT, THAT OPTION FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE WAITING FOR THE, UH, STATE TO TAKE THE LEAD, UH, AND SEE WHERE THAT GOES. AND THEN ALSO JUST WANTED TO MENTION, UH, THEO, TO YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THE, UH, THE, THE PAUSE ON FEDERAL FUNDING, UH, THIS AFTERNOON, A FEDERAL JUDGE IN WASHINGTON DC UH, DID ISSUE A, UM, UH, RESTRAINING ORDER A STAY. SO THE PAUSE HAS BEEN PAUSED FOR A NUMBER OF DAYS. WHAT? IT'S NOT PAUSED NEXT WEEK. YEAH. SO, BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THAT THAT WAS DEFINITELY SOME PANIC AS OF YESTERDAY. A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE LIKE OMB JUST CAME DOWN WITH THIS, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? SO I'D SPENT A LOT OF TIME TODAY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN EXACTLY, . I DO HAVE, UH, ONE OTHER QUESTION. I DON'T SEE HIM HERE TONIGHT, BUT JUST IN CASE HE'S LISTENING ONLINE, I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T ASK ON BEHALF OF MR. GARLAND COPELAND, IF WE HAD HAD ANY MORE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE MEDIANS MM-HMM . ON THE WEST END OF FIVE 17. I'D BE, I'D BE HAPPY TO, UH, SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT. I THINK MATT WOULD BE ABLE TO, TO SPEAK TO IT BETTER. OF, OF, UH, THEY, THEY WE'RE AT THE POINT OF, UH, OF, OF, I THINK WE'RE BEING, WOULD, WOULD IGNORED BE A WORD THAT YOU'D USE AT THIS POINT? I DON'T KNOW WHAT WORD. WHAT'S A GOOD WORD FOR IT, MAN? MAYBE I'LL LET YOU. UH, I THINK, I THINK IGNORED IS A GOOD WORD. UM, THERE'S BEEN SOME CHANGE OF STAFF AND SOME EMAILS HAVE BEEN SENT, UM, NAMELY ARE SPECIFICALLY 11, I THINK IF I COUNTED LAST THAT HAVE GONE UNANSWERED THE NEXT STEP. YOU CAN ADD THREE OF MINE AS WELL TO THAT. OKAY. SO, UH, THE NEXT STEP IS A, IS A, IS A DEPARTMENT HEAD MEMO SENT WITH OUR, UH, REQUESTS AND COMPLAINTS ESSENTIALLY. AND SO WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT SPECIFICALLY WHAT IT IS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM DO. LIKE WHAT, WHAT EXACT ACTION IS IT THAT WE WOULD LIKE THEM TO TAKE? WELL, TO BE VERY SPECIFIC, THE, UH, RESPONSE ENDED WHEN MATT, AFTER A, A MEETING, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE WERE KIND OF VOICING, KIND OF, HERE ARE THE ISSUES AND WE'D LIKE TO GET ANSWERS WHERE WE DIDN'T GET ANSWERS. UM, MATT, YOU KNOW, LIKE, YOU KNOW, MATT, ONE OF HIS REQUESTS WAS, WELL, CAN CAN YOU GIVE US A A YOUR MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE? YOUR MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE, UH, TO WHICH, UH, THEY NEVER REALLY SENT ANYTHING. BUT THEN HE, YOU KNOW, DID A LITTLE INTERNET SLEUTHING OF HIS OWN AND THEN SENT AN EMAIL SAYING, HEY, I THINK I FOUND IT. CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT THIS IS IT? AND THAT THEY HAVE NEVER EMAILED HIM BACK EVER SINCE THAT DAY. THEY'RE MOWING. EXACTLY. THEIR MOWING SCHEDULE IS BASED ON RURAL COMMUNITIES. AND IT MAKES SENSE THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO CUT THE BLUE BONNETS ON THE FREEWAY ON I 10. UM, BUT THAT DOESN'T REALLY HELP US WITH OUR RIGHT OF WAYS THAT WE NEED TO BE MAINTENANCE. [00:50:01] SO IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT SAYS THAT THEY CUT THE GRASS TWICE A YEAR. UM, AND, AND SO, SO THEN THAT, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE THAT WAS JUST ONE OF MANY ISSUES. THAT WAS JUST ONE OF THEM. BUT THAT WAS KIND OF THE LAST THING THAT WAS EVER KIND OF BACK AND FORTH, WAS DEALING WITH THAT MOWING. AND THEN NOW THEY JUST WON'T RESPOND AT ALL. I THINK THAT WHAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS ACTUALLY A GREAT YEAR. THIS IS ACTUALLY A GREAT YEAR FOR US TO ENGAGE, UH, OUR REPRESENTATIVE RIGHT NOW. 'CAUSE I THINK WE'RE EVEN GONNA HAVE A GALVESTON COUNTY DAY, UH, UH, EVENT VERY SOON. UM, AND I THINK THAT'LL BE A GREAT TIME FOR CITY REPRESENTATION TO, UH, SPEND SOME TIME WITH, UH, WITH, UH, WITH, UH, DR. BONIN AT THIS POINT. BECAUSE NOW BEFORE WHENEVER IT WAS LIKE ONE OR TWO EMAILS, BUT I MEAN, NOW THAT WE'RE GETTING TO WHAT, 14, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN MAYOR AND AND STAFF OF NOT ANSWERING, I THINK THAT WE HAVE A VERY COMPELLING ARGUMENT TO GO SIT IN FRONT OF, YOU KNOW, DR. BONIN AND SAY, I MEAN, WE WE'RE GETTING NOTHING IN THIS WHOLE THING. WE, WE, WE DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW TO ENGAGE THIS AGENCY TO, TO FIX THINGS. OKAY. SAYS HOWEVER WE CHOOSE TO DO THAT IN THE FUTURE. SO I DO, I, IT BROUGHT ACTUALLY A QUESTION UP FOR ME. UM, 'CAUSE I REACHED OUT, UH, I THINK IT WAS LAST WEEK OR EARLIER THIS WEEK, UH, ABOUT THE CREEK SIDE. DO WE HAVE ANY, DID HAVE WE GOTTEN ANY NEW COMMUNICATION WITH THEIR, UH, ATTORNEYS OR WITH THEIR SITUATION? UM, I, I BELIEVE THAT, UH, MA'AM WAS, UH, PLANNING ON BRINGING THAT TO YOU GUYS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. OKAY. THAT'S FINE. AS LONG AS WE HAVE AN UPDATE. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. SO COOL. WORKS. ANY BY THE WAY. UM, FOR ANY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO NEED THE DATE, THE GALVESTON COUNTY DAY IS MARCH 6TH. MARCH 6TH. MARCH 6TH. WRITE IT ON YOUR CALENDAR. UH, WE WILL, WE WILL, UH, WE WILL HAVE, UH, ALAN WOULD YOU BE GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO MAKE SURE WE GET SOMETHING OUT TO COUNCIL ABOUT GALVESTON COUNTY DAY AND, UM, AUSTIN? YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR, NOPE. AND ON THE, UH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE AUDIT AND THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AND ALL THAT. IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN GET A MONTHLY STATEMENT THAT SHOWS OUT TO THE SIDE HOW MUCH OF THE BUDGET WE'VE SPENT FOR THAT MONTH? I, I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S VERY ABLE TO DO IT. WHERE'S, UH, SARAH? SARAH, ARE YOU BACK THERE? YEAH. ATTORNEY. THANK YOU MA'AM. YEP. OKAY. SORRY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR, UH, THE CITY MANAGER? ALRIGHT, LET'S GET TO THE FUN STUFF. PUBLIC [5. PUBLIC COMMENTS] COMMENTS. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE INVITED TO GIVE COMMENTS AT THIS TIME, LASTING NOT LONGER THAN THREE MINUTES. COMMENTS MAY BE GENERAL IN NATURE OR MAY ADDRESS A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM AND SHOULD BE DIRECTED AT ENTIRE COUNCIL. NOT INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL OR STAFF. ANY SPEAKER MAKING PERSONAL ATTACKS OR USING VULGAR OR PROFANE LANGUAGE SHALL FORFEIT HIS OR HER REMAINING TIME AND SHALL BE SEATED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT. THE CITY COUNCIL MAY NOT DELIBERATE. UM, AND THEN WE GOT FIRST FOR JUST THE GENERAL COMMENTS, WE GOT, UH, MR. JOE WILBURN, JOE WILBURN LIVE RIGHT HERE IN DICKINSON, TEXAS. AND MAYOR, I'D ASK IF I COULD GET A LITTLE LEEWAY. I'VE SIGNED UP TWICE IF YOU'LL JUST LET ME RUN ON JUST A LITTLE BIT. YOU WON'T HAVE TO, YOU WON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS GRIEF THE SECOND TIME. UH, BUT I, I WAS AT A, UH, A DC MEETING, UH, A FEW WEEKS BACK AND A VERY ENJOYABLE MEETING. WE HAD SOME DIALOGUE BACK AND FORTH. A LOT OF THINGS GOT ACCOMPLISHED, UH, IN MY MIND, I THINK. BUT IN THAT MEETING, UH, THERE WAS SOMEBODY THERE THAT ASKED ME IF THEY HAD EVER LIED TO ME. AND MAN, AFTER I GOT HOME, IT STARTED WORKING ON ME PRETTY GOOD. AND, UH, THAT WAS WALTER WILSON, UH, USED TO BE A MEMBER OF THIS COUNCIL. NOW HE'S ON EDC. AND, UH, WALTER WILSON IS A, IS A GOOD GUY IN MY OPINION. HE'S A, HE'S A GOOD, UH, CITIZEN OF THE COMMUNITY. UH, TRIES HARD TO DO WHAT HE THINKS IS RIGHT AND EVERYBODY HAS A, A PURPOSE IN LIFE AND, AND A AND A REASON THEY'RE HERE. AND, UH, AND I THANK JESSE FOR COMING OUT WITH WHAT HE SAID THERE, MAN, MOVE, MOVE ME A LOT. AND I CONSIDER JESSE A FRIEND OF MINE. HE'S A, UH, WE DON'T, WE DON'T GO OUT AND DRINK BEER TOGETHER OR BREAK BREAD TOGETHER, BUT I DO HAVE CONVERSATION WITH JESSE AND I DO CONSIDER HIM TO HAVE A GOOD HEART AND A GOOD SOUL. LEMME GET OFF OF THAT. AND BACK TO BACK TO WHAT I WAS SAYING, EVERYBODY HAS A PURPOSE IN LIFE. UM, I HAVE MINE. I'M A DEAL MAKER. I MAKE GOOD DEALS. I, I CAN'T PUT THE PAPERWORK TOGETHER, BUT I MAKE BIG DEALS AND, AND I DO IT WELL. AND, UH, WHEN I WAS UP TRYING TO GET A PERMIT FOR A CAR WASH, UH, WALTER WILSON WAS MY BIGGEST OPPONENT. AND, AND I CAME TO MEETINGS, A LOT OF COUNCIL [00:55:01] MEETINGS. AND IT JUST SEEMED THAT EVERYBODY THAT CAME TO A COUNCIL MEETING TO GET A PERMIT TO BUILD A BUSINESS WAS TURNED DOWN. AND WALTER WILSON ALWAYS HAD HIS HAND UP, UNLESS IT WAS SOMEBODY WANTING MONEY FROM THE EDC TO OPEN A BUSINESS. AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY, BUT IT WAS A LOT. IT WAS QUITE A FEW, I'D SAY FOUR OR FIVE MAYBE, YOU KNOW, BUSINESSES THAT COULD HAVE BEEN HERE IN TOWN AND, AND CREATING DOLLARS, UH, TAX DOLLARS OR SALES TAX OR, UH, GENERAL DOLLARS GOING INTO THE GENERAL FUND. ANYWAY, I'M SAYING THIS TO SAY HE'S, HE ASKED ME IF HE EVER LIED TO ME. AND HE, HE HADN'T, HE, HE WENT AGAINST MY CAR WASH EVERY TIME AND HE WAS ON SEVERAL COMMITTEES. I THINK ONE OF 'EM WAS THE ARCHITECTURAL COMMITTEE. AND HE PUT SO MANY STRINGENT RULES ON ME THAT IT WOULD'VE COST ME AN EXTRA $800,000 FOR THE RULES THAT HE WANTED ME TO ABIDE BY. THANK GOD THE GOVERNMENT STEPPED IN AND DONE AWAY WITH ARCHITECTURAL. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT ANYMORE. UH, LEGISLATION PROHIBITED PEOPLE LIKE HIM THAT WANTED ME TO GO AGAINST SOMETHING TO BE ABLE TO PREVENT IT WITH THAT, FOR THAT REASON. SO THERE IS A MAN THAT HE ASKED ME, HE TOLD ME THAT THE REASON HE OPPOSED THE CAR WASH WAS 'CAUSE IT DIDN'T BRING ANY SALES TAX DOLLARS. HE WAS ON THE COMMITTEE THAT MADE ME AGREE TO BRING IN A COFFEE SHOP OR A DONUT SHOP TO GENERATE SALES TAX DOLLARS. AND WE HAD TO MOVE THE CAR WASH AROUND AND DO ALL THIS. WE GAVE, WE, NOT ONLY DID WE BRING STARBUCKS IN, WE GAVE HIM THE PROPERTY FOR HALF OF THE APPRAISED VALUE TO GET 'EM TO BUILD. AND I'D LIKE TO EXTEND HIS TIME. SO, UH, ALAN, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, I WANT TO EXTEND HIS TIME. I APPRECIATE THAT. YEP. SO, SO, UM, IN, IN DOING SO, WE, WE HAD TO GO THROUGH SOME MORE RIGMAROLE. OUR CAR WASH PERMIT EXPIRED AND WHO WAS AGAINST US WHEN IT, WHEN IT COME BACK UP, STARBUCKS WAS GOING UP. WALTER WILSON WAS AGAINST IT. GOOD FELLA. WE TALK, WE, WE SHAKE HANDS, WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO. BUT MY, MY POINT IS WALTER WILSON WAS ONE OF THE FIRST VOTES. HIM AND JOHNNY SIMPSON VOTED ME OFF OF THE EDC. IT'S IRONIC. IT'S JUST VERY IRONIC THAT, THAT THIS COUNCIL PUTS PEOPLE IN POSITIONS. Y'ALL VOTE TO, Y'ALL APPOINT WALTER WILSON TO A POSITION AND HE'S, HE'S NOT A GOOD FIT FOR IT. HE'S A GOOD FIT FOR SOMETHING, BUT HE'S AGAINST BUSINESS. SO WHY PUT HIM IN A POSITION OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WHEN HE IS AGAINST ALL BUSINESS OR HE'S, HE'S FOR THE SOCIALIST TYPE OF BUSINESS. IF, IF, IF THE TAXPAYERS WANT TO GIVE HIM, GIVE PEOPLE MONEY TO OPEN A BUSINESS, HE'S ALL FOR IT. THAT GOES, AND IT GOES INTO THE ETHICS PART OF THINGS. UH, IF I WAS A MARXIST OR A COMMUNIST OR SOCIALIST, I WOULD MAKE A RULE WHERE NOBODY COULD COME UP HERE AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS HAPPENED ABOUT THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO. NOBODY WOULD BE ABLE TO SAY IT. THEY'D, THEY'D HIRE A SOLICITOR AND THEY'D MAKE A, THEY'D MAKE SOME KIND OF A RULE TO WHERE SOMEBODY LIKE ME COULDN'T GET UP AND SPEAK AND SAY, THEY'D SAY, THEY'D LOOK AT THE SOLICITOR AND THEY'D SAY, LOOK, THIS WAS 12 MONTHS AGO. THIS HAS BEEN MORE THAN 12 MONTHS AGO. WE CAN'T LET THAT GUY SPEAK ON THIS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT A COMMUNIST WOULD, THAT'S WHAT A COMMUNIST PARTY WOULD DO, IS SAY, THE PUBLIC CAN'T SPEAK AGAINST IT. THEY'RE TALKING BAD ABOUT US AND WE CAN'T HANDLE IT. SO, UH, LET'S, LET'S DO AWAY WITH THAT. UH, IT'S REAL EASY FOR SOMEBODY TO COME AND MAKE A RULE, AN ETHICAL RULE AGAINST US. BUT WHEN WE HAVE A COMPLAINT, WHEN WE HAVE A LEGITIMATE, A LOGICAL COMPLAINT, IT'S VERY EASY FOR YOU TO GET SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON THE AGENDA. BUT WHEN, WHEN SOMEBODY NEEDS A LITTLE DISCIPLINE, WE HAVEN'T, WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE ALL OUR ARTISTS FINISHED AND WE STILL DON'T HAVE A BOND RATING. OUR CITY, CITY LOOKS TERRIBLE WITHOUT THIS BOND RATING. NOBODY'S BEEN PUNISHED, AND NOBODY WILL GO AND BRING IT AND PUT IT ON AN AGENDA TO ASK MR. MALSON IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIC, WE HIRED YOU FOR THIS. THE CITY'S PAYING FOR IT, YET WE STILL DON'T HAVE A BOND RATING. BUT LET'S SILENCE THE CITIZENS. WE CAN GET THAT ON THE AGENDA RIGHT AWAY. LET'S SILENCE 'EM. UH, WE, WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR ALL THAT. I APPRECIATE EVERY JOB, EVERYBODY HERE'S DOING. I REALLY DO. WHETHER, WHETHER YOU BELIEVE ME OR NOT, I KNOW EVERYBODY'S GOT A HARD JOB. I, ALL OF Y'ALL GOT A TOUGH JOB. I, I'VE BEEN IN Y'ALL'S POSITIONS. I JUST, I'M, IT'S EASY FOR ME TO FIRE PEOPLE. I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO QUALMS FIRING SOMEBODY WHEN THEY'RE DOING WRONG. AND, AND IT, AND IT'S DONE ME WELL ALL MY LIFE. IT, WHEN SOMEBODY'S NOT DOING THE RIGHT THING, I HIRE 'EM TO DO. I'M A TRUMP. YOU'RE FIRED. YOU'RE FIRED. GET OUT. IT'S TIME TO GO. AND MAN, UH, WHAT A, WHAT A GOOD DAY IT IS [01:00:01] THE NEXT DAY WHEN YOU WAKE UP AND, AND THAT SHOT IS GIVING YOU THAT, THAT TERRIBLE SENSATION IT IS TO HAVE TO FIRE SOMEBODY. AND THE NEXT DAY YOU GET UP AND YOU SAY, MAN, THAT WAS LIKE A PENICILLIN SHOT THAT WENT THROUGH ME. IT CURE ME. THERE'S SOMEBODY OUT THERE THAT COULD GET OUR BOND RATING BACK. AND THERE'S SOMEBODY OUT THERE WHEN YOU HIRE 'EM AND THEY, AND YOU, AND YOU PUT 'EM IN CHARGE OF, OF GETTING AUDITS AND GETTING YOUR CITY IN ORDER. THERE'S, THERE'S, UH, SOMEBODY THAT KNOWS HOW TO DO THAT. IT MAY NOT BE MR. MILAN'S GIG. IT JUST MIGHT NOT BE. HE'S A GOOD SALESMAN. I CAN PROMISE YOU. I'VE BEEN SOLD. I, I'VE BEEN SOLD BY MR. MILAN. I'VE, I'VE SAT IN OFFICES AND LISTENED TO HIM AND IT'S BEEN GOOD, BUT HE TRIED TO PUT ME IN JAIL. SO I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF FAITH IN MR. MILAN. AND Y'ALL SEEM TO HAVE A LOT OF IT, BUT WE CAN'T EVEN GET IT ON THE AGENDA TO TALK ABOUT PUNISHMENT FOR SOMETHING THAT HADN'T BEEN DONE GOOD FOR THE TAXPAYERS. I'VE, I'VE TAKEN ENOUGH OF Y'ALLS TIME. THANK YOU MUCH FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. THANK YOU, SIR. ALRIGHT. UM, NEXT I GOT NUMBER TWO IS, UH, DAVID LEHMAN. MR. DAVID LEMAN. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME'S DAVID LEHMAN, AND I'VE LIVED HERE MY ENTIRE LIFE. UH, I WANNA GO OVER SOME THINGS WITH Y'ALL TONIGHT. I WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT EDC. YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THE ROADS WE GOT, IN MY OPINION, WE GOT FIVE MAJOR ROADS IN DICKINSON. WE GOT HIGHWAY THREE, WE GOT FIVE 17, WE GOT 1266. AND THEN WE GOT HUGHES ROAD AND DEETS ROAD. THAT'S MY OPINION. AND IT MAY BE ALL WET, BUT HUGHES ROAD BETWEEN HIGHWAY THREE AND THE FREEWAY NEEDS WORK. WHY CAN'T WE FIGURE OUT HOW TO FIX THESE ROADS? THIS TEXAS AVENUE WAS A DISASTER FOR YEARS. AND WE FINALLY MUST HAVE GOT SOME FUNDS TO SEA IN IT, EXCEPT FROM 38TH STREET TO HIGHWAY THREE, EXCUSE ME, 12 5 17. IT'S A JOKE, A COMPLETE JOKE. WE CAN'T, WE, WE CAN'T PAVE ROADS, GUYS. WE CAN'T PAVE ROADS. AM I'M SHELL SHOCKED THAT WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO PAVE ROADS. UH, I WANNA TALK TO Y'ALL AGAIN ABOUT WHEN WE'RE GONNA NOTIFY THE PUBLIC. Y'ALL, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL SOMETIMES ACT LIKE THE PUBLIC'S NOT INVOLVED, BUT Y'ALL'S AGENDA, SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T ALLOW PEOPLE TO GET INVOLVED, DO WE? AND I'LL EXPLAIN THIS TO Y'ALL REAL SLOW. TALKED ABOUT THIS AT EDC THE OTHER DAY. I'M GONNA EXPLAIN IT TO YOU LIKE WE'RE ALL SEVEN YEAR OLDS TONIGHT. WHEN YOU PUT SOMETHING ON AN AGENDA, MAKE IT TO WHERE A 7-YEAR-OLD CAN UNDERSTAND IT. THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, VERY SIMPLE. IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE. PUT STUFF ON THIS AGENDA WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU PUT ALL KINDS OF THINGS ON FACEBOOK. I THINK MORE PEOPLE LOOK AT FACEBOOK THAN THEY, THEY GO TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND LOOK, AND Y'ALL POST A LOT ON FACEBOOK. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT COSTS YOU. HOPEFULLY NOT TOO MUCH. HOPEFULLY NOTHING. BUT PUT THIS STUFF, PUT THIS AGENDA OUT THERE ON FACEBOOK. HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU THINK, LOOK AT FACEBOOK BOOK VERSUS THE CITY OF DICKINSON'S WEBSITE. YOU WANNA, YOU WANNA GET PEOPLE IN THIS BUILDING. YOU WANT, YOU WANT COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT. PEOPLE, IT'S, IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE. GET IT ON FACEBOOK. NOW, FOR INSTANCE, Y'ALL HAD A SPECIAL MEETING HELD ON NOVEMBER 15TH. I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE KNEW ABOUT THAT. YOU HAD A CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING ON NOVEMBER 20TH. HOW MANY PEOPLE KNEW ABOUT THAT? I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T SHOW UP DECEMBER 10TH. YOU HAD SOME KIND OF REGULAR MEETING ON DECEMBER 10TH. WHERE WAS THAT? I DON'T KNOW. I'M NOT HERE. IF I'M NOT HERE. I DIDN'T SEE IT. OR I'M DEAD. MAYBE SOME OF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE ME DEAD. I'M SURE. LET'S TALK ABOUT EDC FOR A MINUTE, SINCE THAT'S PART OF THE CITY. UH, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL. EDC ASK, ASK QUESTIONS. WELL, I GOT, I GOT SOME QUESTIONS FOR EDC. PUT ALL THE PARCELS OF LAND THAT Y'ALL OWN, THAT THE CITY OWNS ON THE EDC WEBSITE. EVERY PARCEL YOU GOT. AND PUT A PHYSICAL ADDRESS ON THERE. IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE FOLKS. AND THEN IF SOMEBODY'S GOT QUESTIONS OR THEY GOT AN IDEA OF WHAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR THAT PARCEL, SOMEBODY CAN COME UP AND TALK ABOUT IT. SIR, YOUR TIME'S UP. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PARCELS. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PARCELS EDC OWNS. DO Y'ALL KNOW AS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, DO YOU KNOW WHERE THEY'RE AT? HAVE YOU DRIVEN BY 'EM? WHAT'S THE ROADS? LOOK OUT, LOOK, LOOK, LOOK LIKE IN FRONT OF IT. AM I GETTING MY POINT ACROSS? GOSH, I HOPE SO. YOU KNOW, I CHANGED FEDERAL LAW AND BEEN IN FRONT OF SOME PRETTY IMPORTANT PEOPLE. AND MY GOODNESS, IT, IT ISN'T HARD TO CHANGE SOMEBODY'S MIND THAT HAS COMMON SENSE AND A VERY HIGH LEVEL OF INTELLIGENCE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING TO 'EM. I, I APPRECIATE IT, SIR. YOU THANK YOU. YOU HAVE A GREAT NIGHT. YOU TOO, SIR. [01:05:01] AND MR. MILAN, I HOPE YOU FIND A JOB REAL SOON. THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN THE REST OF EVERYBODY ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK ON, SPEAK ON THEIR SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEMS. I'M ASSUMING NO ONE, NO ONE MEANT TO DO GENERAL COMMENTS. OKAY. LET'S MOVE ON TO, UH, NUMBER SIX, CONSENT AGENDA. THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE CONSIDERED ROUTINE BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION. THERE WILL NOT BE SEP BE A SEPARATE DISCUSSION ON THESE ITEMS UNLESS A COUNCIL MEMBER REQUESTS IN WHICH THE EVENT, IN WHICH EVENT THE ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT, UH, CONSENT AGENDA AND DISCUSSED. UH, AFTER THE CONSENT AGENDA, I WANT TO PULL ALL OF THEM. ALL RIGHT. SO I GOT A MOTION TO, OR WE GOT, WE WANNA PULL ALL OF THEM. SO WE DON'T NEED A MOTION FOR THAT. I'M ASSUMING SO. NO. ALL RIGHT. SO IF WE'RE PULLING ALL OF THE ITEMS, NUMBER SEVEN, NO, NO, NO. OH, YOU GOTTA DO EACH ONE OF, OH, WE'RE DOING EACH ONE OF 'EM. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO, SIX A [6.A Consideration and possible action to approve the Minutes from City Council's Regular Meeting held on November 12, 2024] CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES, UH, FROM CITY COUNCIL'S REGULAR MEETING HELD ON NOVEMBER 12TH, 2024. MOVE THE TABLE AGAIN. AS I WAS GOING THROUGH 'EM, COMPARING, TRYING TO FIND OUT WHY THEY WERE POOLED LAST MONTH. THERE ARE MIN, THERE ARE MINUTES IN THE MEETING THAT ARE NOT IN THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING ANYMORE. AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROVE TO APPROVE, AND I THINK THERE WAS SOME GOOD COMMENTS IN THERE. AND I THINK THOSE COMMENTS NEED TO BE LEFT IN. I'D LIKE TO HAVE 'EM ADDED ALL BY. UH, WE CAN, WE CAN DO THAT. THEY A PULLED, BECAUSE WE HAD THE COMMENTS IN THERE IN NOVEMBER. THAT'S WHY THAT'S, THEY WERE TABLED LAST GO ROUND BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE, BECAUSE OF THE, UH, THE COMMENTS. UH, IT'S UP TO YOU GUYS, HOWEVER Y'ALL WANNA DO IT. WHAT, WHAT WE HAVE HISTORICALLY DONE IS, IS HANDLED IT WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE HAVE A RELATIVELY NEW CITY SECRETARY, SO HE WAS DOCUMENTING, YOU KNOW, IN, IN SOME GREAT DETAIL, THE DIALOGUE. BUT REALLY, IF THESE ARE THE PERMANENT RECORD OF THE CITY, THE MAIN THINGS THAT WE HAVE HISTORICALLY HAD WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, VERY BASIC INFORMATION WITH THE MOTION SECOND AND, AND THE VOTE. BUT IT'S, UH, UP TO WHATEVER COUNCIL WANTS. WE ARE JUST KIND OF GETTING SOME, I DO UNDERSTAND HE'S PUTTING MORE IN THAN THEY NORMALLY DO. MM-HMM . BUT IN ORDER TO GO BACK INTO THE MINUTES TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED MM-HMM . YOU GOTTA HAVE SOMETHING. SURE. YOU GOTTA HAVE MORE THAN, UH, FIRST, SECOND, AND A PASS. OKAY. OR FAILURE. WE WILL, WE CAN DEFINITELY WORK ON THE MINUTES TO FIND, UH, A HAPPY MEDIUM. A HAPPY MEDIUM. YES, SIR. IF THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL WOULD LIKE. MOTION TABLE SIX, UH, SIX A. ALL RIGHT. I GOT A MOTION TO TABLE SIX A. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. MOTION PASSED. SO THAT IS A MOTION FROM PO POINT OF INQUIRY. OH, I'M SORRY. OH, I WAS JUST GONNA LET THE CITY SECRETARY BE ABLE TO CATCH UP. WE, DID YOU HEAR THE, SO WE HAVE A MOTION. A MOTION MADE BY TOWNSEND. SECONDED BY SCHICK. YEP. ALRIGHT, GO AHEAD. POINT OF INQUIRY, MAYOR, UH, TO ADDRESS SOMEONE OTHER THAN THE CHAIR. COUNCIL MEMBER TOWNSEND, IS THAT YOUR ISSUE WITH ALSO B, C, AND D? ALL EXCEPT FOR B. OKAY. NEVERMIND. 'CAUSE I WAS JUST GONNA TRY TO SPEED THINGS UP. MAKE A MOTION TO JUST TABLE ALL THREE OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME. BUT IF THAT'S NOT YOUR ISSUE, I'LL ACCELERATE THAT FOR YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO, SIX [6.B Consideration and possible action to approve the Minutes from City Council's Special Meeting held on November 15, 2024] B CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM CITY COUNCIL. SPECIAL MEETING HELD ON NOVEMBER 15TH, 2024. AND ON THAT ONE, I JUST, THE CORRECTIONS NEED TO BE THAT TOWNSEND MADE A MOTION AND SIMPSON MADE A SECOND TO ADJOURN. MM-HMM . THOSE WERE MISSING ON THE SEVEN D. SO WITH CORRECTIONS. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION WITH CORRECTIONS ON SIX B. YES, SIR. NEED A SECOND? DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. I GOT A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER SIMPSON. ALL IN FAVOR? A. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSED. SO SIX [Items 6.C. & 6.D.] C AND SIX D. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE BOTH. ALL RIGHT. SO I GOT A MOTION TO TABLE SIX C AND SIX D. SECOND. I GOT A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER SCHICK. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSED. SIX E [6.E Consideration and possible action to approve the TML October 2024 Travel and Training Reimbursement Request for Councilmembers Mark Townsend and Bill Schick.] CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE TML OCTOBER, 2024 TRAVEL AND TRAINING REIMBURSEMENT REQUEST FOR COUNCIL MEMBER MARK TOWNSEND AND COUNCIL MEMBER BILL SCHICK MOVE TO APPROVE. I GOT, UH, SECOND [01:10:01] MOVE TO APPROVE BY COUNCIL MEMBER SIMPSON AND A SECOND BY BRANTLEY. COUNCIL MEMBER BRANTLEY. UM, ALL IN FAVOR COURT DISCUSSION. OH, WE GOT A DISCUSSION? YES. ALRIGHT. I BROUGHT THIS UP LAST TIME. WE HAD TO DO THIS FOR COUNCILMAN SCH AND I'M GONNA BRING IT UP AGAIN TONIGHT. 'CAUSE MY NAME'S ON IT. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO DO THIS. I UNDERSTAND WHERE Y'ALL GOING TO IN THE CHARTER, BUT IN THE BUDGET, WE BUDGET FOR PEOPLE TO GO TO TML CONVENTIONS AND TO GO TO TRAINING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND UNLESS WE'RE OVERSPENDING IT WHERE WE NEED TO PUT MORE MONEY INTO IT MM-HMM . MM-HMM. I DON'T THINK THE CHARTER REQUIRES US TO DO THIS BECAUSE COUNCILMAN LENTON WAS ALSO THERE. COUNCILMAN SIMPSON AND MY UNDERSTANDING HAVEN'T GOT THEIR EXPENSE REPORT YET, SO THEY CAN GET THEIR REIMBURSEMENT. SO THAT MEANS WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO THIS AGAIN. AND I DON'T THINK IT, I DON'T THINK IT'S CALLED FOR SURE. AND I, I'LL JUST ASK. I MEAN, SO NOW I, HAVE YOU LOOKED INTO THE CHARTER PROVISION? 'CAUSE WELL, IT BASICALLY SAYS IS THAT, THAT, THAT FOR REIMBURSEMENT, THAT THE REIMBURSEMENT IS, IS, HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL, I GUESS DOES, DOES THEM PASSING A BUDGETED AMOUNT OF MONEY. WOULD YOU, YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER TOWNSEND IS REQUESTING OF, IF THERE'S A BUDGETED AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT, THAT THE, THAT THE COUNCIL HAS, IN ESSENCE PRE-APPROVED A CERTAIN LEVEL OF REIMBURSEMENT? WE'VE NEVER HAD TO DO THIS BEFORE. I'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR 15 YEARS. YES, SIR. WE'VE NEVER HAD TO DO THIS TILL LAST TIME FOR COUNCILMAN SCH. SO, LOOKING AT THE CHARTER PROVISION, UH, IN QUESTION, IT READS, IN ADDITION, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL BE ENTITLED TO REIMBURSEMENT FOR ACTUAL EXPENSES INCURRED IN THE PERFORMANCE OF OFFICIAL DUTIES WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE CITY COUNCIL AT A PUBLIC MEETING. SO THE QUESTION IS, IS THE ADOPTION OF A BUDGET LINE ITEM FOR TRAVEL AND TRAINING? UM, I DON'T SEE HOW THAT WOULD BE APPROVING REIMBURSEMENT FOR ACTUAL EXPENSES. WELL, THAT'S PART OF THE, AT THE TIME THAT THE LINE ITEM IS APPROVED, YOU'RE APPROVING A, A POT OF MONEY, IF YOU WILL, BUT YOU CANNOT KNOW UNTIL THE EXPENSES ARE INCURRED HOW MUCH THE ACTUAL EXPENSES WILL BE. SO I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE TEXT AND WANT TO FOLLOW IT STRICTLY, THEN I THINK THAT UNFORTUNATELY THIS IS THE WAY THAT WE HAVE TO DO IT. WELL, IT'S ALREADY BEEN PUT IN THERE. WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO GO TO TML, SO WE PUT ENOUGH MONEY IN THERE FOR SEVEN PEOPLE TO GO. NORMALLY YOU GET FOUR. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT OVERSPENDING THE LIMIT. YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T, I DON'T THINK EVEN WITH THE CHARTER I, IN THAT, IN YOUR, IN THAT OPINION, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO DO THIS FOR THINGS LIKE TML. OKAY. I SORRY, GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD. I I, I'D BE CURIOUS TO KNOW IF, IF JUST LIKE A PER DIEM CHECK WAS CUT AHEAD OF TIME, WOULD THAT, WOULD THAT BE SUFFICIENT? 'CAUSE I REMEMBER THE FIRST YEAR I GOT ELECTED, I GOT A PER DIEM AHEAD OF TIME FOR TML. I THINK THAT ONE WAS IN SAN ANTONIO, AND THEY JUST CALCULATED WHAT THE MILEAGE WAS CALCULATED, THE, THE PER DIEM RATE AND, AND THAT WAS IN MY BINDER BEFORE I LEFT TO GO TO SAN ANTONIO. UM, WOULD THAT BE AN EFFECTIVE WORKAROUND? I'M JUST, JUST CURIOUS. I, I BELIEVE THAT AS LONG AS IT'S NOT REIMBURSING BACK TO AT LEAST, AT LEAST WHENEVER WORKING WITH SARAH, REIMBURSING WITH, UH, UH, THIS IS DEALING WITH LIKE REIMBURSEMENT OF ACTUAL EXPENSES WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PER DIEMS AND MILEAGE, THAT'S NOT THOSE, THOSE ARE ACTUAL EXPENSES THAT HAVE BEEN CALCULATED AHEAD OF TIME. SO THAT, YOU KNOW, I I, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT THAN THEM, BUT IF WE, IF WE MADE SURE IT WAS ALWAYS LIKE, ON A PER DIEM BASIS AND EVERYTHING WAS UP FRONT ON THE FRONT END, INSTEAD OF IT BEING ON THE BACK END AND SAYING, OKAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, I I DID EXACTLY THIS MILEAGE, I DID, YOU KNOW, I DID, YOU KNOW, I WAS THERE EXACTLY THIS MANY DAYS. SO I GET THIS PER DIEM. I DON'T KNOW. WHAT IF THERE'S A WORKAROUND? WELL, WELL, I I THINK IT STILL ENDS UP BEING ADDITIONAL COUNCIL ACTION IN ADDITION TO THE ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET. WHICH, WHAT I WAS SENSING, SO I GUESS, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON THIS, BUT THIS WOULD BE, THIS WOULD FALL UNDER THE, ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, THE ORDINANCE IS NOT DESIGNED FOR STANDARD STUFF LIKE TML, BUT IT STILL FALLS UNDER THERE. BUT IT'S TO PROTECT FROM NOT ALLOWING PEOPLE TO SPEND MONEY ON STUFF THEY SHOULDN'T BE SPENDING MONEY ON. RIGHT. THAT'S WHY IT HAS TO BE BOARD APPROVED BEFORE THEY GET REIMBURSED, IS WHAT I'M ASSUMING. RIGHT? CORRECT. RIGHT. SO IT'S NOT FOR THE MORE TRADITIONAL STUFF, IT'S TO ELIMINATE THE POTENTIAL IF THERE IS ABNORMAL THINGS HAPPENING. RIGHT. RIGHT. AND, AND JUST TO BE, UH, FAIR TO COUNCIL MEMBER TOWNSEND, UH, HE'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. IT, IT WAS, IT'S A, IT IS A RELATIVELY NEW OKAY. [01:15:01] UH, ONE, UH, BUT IT WAS LARGELY BECAUSE KIND OF IN LOOKING AT THE CHARTER AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, THAT PROVISION HAS BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE. IT JUST WAS NEVER ENFORCED. SO NOW IF I'M BEING, NOW, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THERE'S MAYBE, MAYBE AFTER THIS MEETING, UH, I CAN SIT WITH NIM AND, AND TALK WITH YOU MAYOR AND MAYBE KIND OF FIGURE OUT SOMETHING, MAYBE SIT WITH THE AUDITOR AND SEE WHAT MAYBE SOME THOUGHTS AND MAYBE SOME WORK AROUND. AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS NECESSARILY. THERE MAY BE SOME WAY TO, TO YOUR POINT TO THAT, BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN A, IT'S NOT A CHARTER CHANGE. SO IT'S BEEN THERE SINCE THE ORIGINAL CHARTER WAS DONE IN THE EIGHTIES MM-HMM . AND IT WAS ONLY BROUGHT UP, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE SOME AUDITOR ASKED ABOUT IT A COUPLE YEARS AGO. MM-HMM . WELL, I BROUGHT IT UP. IT MIGHT'VE BEEN, UH, PART OF A CHARTER CHANGE BECAUSE, UH, ON MUNI CODE UNDER THAT SECTION, IT INDICATES THAT IT WAS PUT IN, UH, USING ORDINANCE 9 68 DASH 2020, UH, NOVEMBER 17TH, 2020. 2020. YES, SIR. AND CORRECTED. ALRIGHT. SO, UM, UH, THE, THE, WE'RE WE'RE BACK. WE'RE STILL, UM, ARE WE, LET'S GO AHEAD. LET ME ASK A QUESTION. UH, IT SAYS REIMBURSEMENT. IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT CHARGES. WHAT IF IN A TML SITUATION, COUNSEL, IF THEY'RE TRAVELING THERE, HOW ABOUT A TEMPORARY PCARD TO CHARGE EVERYTHING THAT WAY? IT'S NOT A REIMBURSEMENT. YEAH. YEAH. I MEAN THAT, THAT, I MEAN, 'CAUSE THAT, THAT POINT'S NOT A REIMBURSEMENT. IT'S, IT'S THE, IT'S THE ACTUAL REIMBURSEMENT PORTION OF IT. RIGHT. WHEN, WHEN YOU'RE REQUESTING A REIMBURSEMENT. THAT'S, I, IT'S, IT IS, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT A NORMAL CHARTER PROVISION I'VE DEALT WITH BEFORE. AND SO WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION, IT WAS, IT WAS, IT JUST HAS THIS THING ABOUT IF, IF A COUNCIL MEMBER'S SEEKING REIMBURSEMENT. WELL, IT'S, UM, HOW ABOUT THIS? LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH SIX E AND LET'S GET A, A MOTION, AND THEN WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT THE PROCESS AFTER THE FACTS. WE'RE NOT, UH, STRINGING THIS THING TILL MIDNIGHT TONIGHT. YEP. YEAH. I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW. MOTION. YOU GOT A MOTION? SECOND. WHERE'S MY MOTION? WHO? WHO HAD THE MOTION? I MADE THE MOTION. ALL RIGHT. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER SIMPSON. AND THEN, DO I HAVE A SECOND? IT WAS BRANTLEY. BRANTLEY IS THE SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSED. ALRIGHT. SIX F MAYOR. [6.F THE PURCHASE OF THREE (3) NEW PUBLIC SAFETY VEHICLES AND EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT FOR DICKINSON POLICE DEPARTMENT] YEP. I'M GONNA RECUSE MYSELF FOR SIX F SO LET ME STEP ON OUT SINCE, UH, SINCE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER JUST, UH, FOR CLARIFICATION, MAYOR, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER SIMPSON'S, A MEMBER OF DMD WHO WAS HELPING TO FUND THIS. SO HE DOESN'T WANNA BE ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS TRANSACTION, JUST SO YOU KNOW. ALRIGHT. SO, UH, SIX F THE NEW OR THE PURCHASE OF THREE NEW PUBLIC SAFETY VEHICLES AND EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT FOR DICKINSON POLICE DEPARTMENT. DO I HAVE A MOTION? I SO MOVE. ALL RIGHT. SO I GOT A MOTION FROM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TOWNSEND, UH, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER LINTON. AND, UH, DISCUSSION. DO WE GOT ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS FROM ANYBODY ABOUT THIS ONE? WE GOT OUR POLICE CHIEF UP HERE. YOU GET ALL THE MONEY YOU NEED TO OTTOMAN SERVICE RADIOS, ALL THAT. YES, SIR. YEAH. DMD FUNDED. WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD TO GO. SWEET. ALL RIGHT. WHAT IS THE DOLLAR ABOUT FOR THE CARS THEMSELVES? 48. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR AUTHORIZATION FOR APPROVAL FROM YOU ALL TONIGHT IS, UH, NO MORE THAN 48,000 A PIECE TIMES THREE. YEAH. IT'S A HUNDRED, $146,504 AND 25 CENTS. OKAY. IS WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR. BUT THE TOTAL OUTFIT OF THE CAR, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT. UM, SIX DMD AUTHORIZED US UP TO, UH, TWO 40 TO COVER THAT. SO THE INITIAL 1 46 COMES OUT OF THAT TWO 40, BUT WE HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH MONEY TO, UH, FULLY OUTFIT THE CARS. YEAH. SO, SO BASICALLY BECAUSE WE ARE, THE ACQUISITION IS BEING MADE BY THE CITY FOR SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE ADDED TO FLEET AND WILL HAVE TO BE DECLARED ON INSURANCE. THAT'S WHY YOU GUYS, THAT'S WHY YOU'RE NOT LIKE DECLARING THE, THE, THE SIRENS, BUT YOU ARE DECLARING THE VEHICLE. SO JUST SO YOU KNOW, SO THESE ARE LIKE THE TAHOES, IT'S A REPLACEMENT OF VEHICLES THAT ARE BIG ONES BEYOND THEIR SERVICE LIFE. YES, SIR. BUT I MEAN, IT'S A TAHOE TYPE. IT'S A, AT THE EXPLORER, THE LITTLE ONE. IT'S THE BIG ONE. IT'S THE EXPLORERS. YEAH. AND IS THIS CONSIDERED AN AMENDMENT TO THE BUDGETS BUDGET ITEM? OR IS THIS A SEPARATE EXPENDITURE FROM THE APPROVED BUDGET? 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT LINE, WE'RE NOT DOING ANY CHANGES IN THE LINE ITEM OR ANYTHING. NO, NO, NO. SO WHAT, SO WHAT WE HAD DONE, WHAT IT DOES DO IS I BELIEVE THAT THE WAY WE WENT INTO BUDGET AND THE BUDGET WE APPROVED WAS THAT THE CITY WAS LOOKING AT FUNDING ONE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. AND THEN TWO WOULD BE DMD. SO WHAT'S ACTUALLY GONNA HAPPEN IS SINCE DMD IS FUNDING ALL THREE, THAT LINE ITEM IS NOW LESS. YEAH. GOT IT. YEAH. AND, UM, I HAD ONE QUICK QUESTION. UM, THE, UM, AND IT WAS RELATED TO THE, IT WASN'T THE AM RESTROOM RADIO FOR SURE. UM, [01:20:01] THE CONNECTOR IS THAT FOR OUR OWN MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT TO, UH, RUN, UH, STATUS CHECKS ON THE, UH, SYSTEM, THE O-B-D-T-A-O-B-D CONNECTOR, I'M JUST CURIOUS, THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE A QUESTION FOR SOMEBODY THAT WORKS ON CARS. ALL THAT. ALL I KNOW THAT IS WHEN WE GET THE QUOTE, WE HAVE TO HAVE ONE OF THOSE MOST LIKELY, UH, THAT'S PROBABLY FOR AN ENGINEERING TYPE QUESTION. IT'S THE INTERFACE FOR THE COMPUTING SYSTEM. YEAH. SO, SO ANYWAY, I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHY WE WERE HAVING IT. 'CAUSE IT'S USUALLY USED BY TECHNICIANS, YOU KNOW, TO I'M GONNA GO WITH YES. ON THAT TO GET ERROR CODES AND WHATNOT. ANYWAY, I'M GONNA, SORRY, I'M GONNA TAKE A SWAG AT THAT ONE. I DID NOT MEAN TO NERD OUT ON YOU. MY APOLOGIES. NO, THAT'S OKAY. IT WAS IN THE, CAN WE REQUIRE COUNCIL MEMBERS SPEAK ENGLISH? YEAH, THAT'S, THAT SOUNDED PLAUSIBLE. WHATEVER THAT WAS. YEAH, THAT'S A DEAL THAT PLUG UP UNDERNEATH THE STEERING WHEEL ON EVERY CART THAT'S MADE TIMEFRAME. YES. UH, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, CO-OP, IT'S A LOT LESS. UH, IT TOOK US A YEAR TO GET OUR ORIGINAL VEHICLES. MM-HMM . I THINK WE'RE A LOT LESS NOW. JAY'S ACTUALLY WORKING WITH 'EM. SO I'M GONNA LET HIM ANSWER THAT. THE FIRST QUESTION TO THE OBD, ALL THE CARS HAVE THEM, THE ENTIRE FLEET HAS GOT A TRACKING FEATURE THAT IS INSTALLED IN ALL CITY VEHICLES. SO IT'S JUST AN INTERFACE FOR THAT. YEAH, IT'S AN INTERFACE. AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF HE HAD A READER. I MEAN, YEAH, THE CITY VEHICLES HAVE READERS ON VEHICLE. OKAY. PLUS WE ALSO CONNECT IN EVERY TIME CHANGES AIR CODES IF YOU HAVE AN PROBLEM WITH THE ENGINE. YEAH, YEAH. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT OUR FLEET MAINTENANCE PEOPLE, THEY USE IT EVERY TIME WE WE'LL CHANGE FLEET. AND, UH, BUT TO, UH, TO, UH, CAPTAIN OL'S POINT WAS, UH, EARLY ON, UH, UH, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE DID IN THE PD WAS TO, UH, TO, UH, ADD A TRACKING FEATURE TO EVERY UNIT THAT TO ALLOW FOR, JUST TO ENSURE A LOT OF IT'S FOR OFFICER SAFETY, YOU KNOW, IF, IF, UM, ALSO TO MAKE SURE OFFICERS ARE, YOU KNOW, UH, PATROLLING INTO PLACES THAT, THAT, UH, SERGEANTS ARE ASKING THEM TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF DOES ALL THAT. BUT, SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT, THAT, UH, INTERFACE IN PLACE TO, UH, TO TIE IT IN. SO WHAT'S THE TIMEFRAME? YEAH, WELL YOU MAY, HE PROBABLY HAS A TIMEFRAME QUESTION OR ANSWER ALSO, WE'LL HAVE TO ORDER THE VEHICLE, SO THERE'LL BE AT LEAST A THREE OR FOUR, FOUR MONTH OUTLAY FOR THEM TO COME IN. IN THE INTERIM, WE'LL START ORDERING ALL THE EQUIPMENT. IS THE MICROPHONE PLEASE? I'M SORRY. WE'LL START ORDERING ALL THE EQUIPMENT, THE COMPUTERS, AND ALL THE OTHER ANCILLARY EQUIPMENT THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT WILL, SHOULD BE ON PROPERTY BEFORE THE VEHICLES GET HERE. BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE A OUTFITTER ACTUALLY ON STAFF, WE GET OUR VEHICLES TURNED AROUND REALLY QUICK. ONCE WITH THE VEHICLES ARE HERE AND ALL THE EQUIPMENT, THERE'S NO DOWNTIME AFTER THAT. THIS GUY TURNS 'EM OUT REALLY, REALLY FAST. SO THAT'S PART OF OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. UH, NO. UH, CAN WE GET, WE GET THAT'S IN-HOUSE THE YEAH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE ONE OF OUR FLEET MAINTENANCE PEOPLE. IT CAME FROM A BACKGROUND OF OUTFITTING EMERGENCY VEHICLES. ALRIGHT. OR SURROUNDING AREAS BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR OWN OUTFITTER. TELL EM TO CHECK A, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT THE FUEL AIR MIXTURE. YOU CAN ALSO MODIFY, YOU WANNA BRING HIM WITH ME NEXT TIME JUST TO FIELD THOSE QUESTIONS? INCREASE THE HORSEPOWER. THAT'S IT. ALRIGHT. ALL RIGHT. SO ARE WE COMFORTABLE WITH, UH, ARE WE READY FOR A, A VOTE ALL? NO. I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION. OKAY. UH, YOU MENTIONED THAT, UH, DMD WAS FUNDING ALL THREE VEHICLES, UM, THAT, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THAT LEAVES, YOU STILL HAVE WHAT, 80 GRAND IN YOUR, UH, THE ORIGINAL BUDGET? NO, THE SEIZURE FUND. UH, WHICH IS WHERE ONE OF THESE VEHICLES WAS GONNA COME FROM ORIGINALLY. RIGHT? YEAH. WE COULD STILL, WE COULD STILL PURCHASE THE VEHICLE WITH SEIZURE FUNDS ALSO. THAT'S NOT GONNA BE A, A POLICE PACKAGE VEHICLE THAT'S GONNA BE A, AN UNMARKED VEHICLE. OKAY. YEAH. TO BE USED FOR UNMARKED PURPOSES TO NOT REALLY TALK ABOUT TOO MUCH HERE. GOTCHA. . OKAY. NO, THAT'S A GOOD THING. I WAS JUST MAKING SURE. YEAH. ALRIGHT. WE GOOD? ALRIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASS. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, NUMBER SEVEN, OLD BUSINESS [7.A ORDINANCE NO. XXX-2024 - Consideration and possible action to approve an ordinance of the City of Dickinson, Texas, to amend Chapter 12, Offenses - Miscellaneous, Article III, Litter; Condition of Premises, of the City of Dickinson Code of Ordinances, by amending Section 12-26, Definitions, and Section 12-47, Prohibited Conditions; providing a repealer clause, a penalty clause, and an effective date. (2nd Reading)] SEVEN. A CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DICKINSON, TEXAS TO AMEND CHAPTER 12 OFFENSES. MISCELLANEOUS ARTICLE THREE, LITTER, CONDITION OF PREMISES OF THE CITY OF DICKINSON, CODE OF ORDINANCE BY AMENDING SECTION 12 DASH 26 DEFINITIONS AND SECTION 12 DASH 47 PROHIBITED CONDITIONS PROVIDING A REPEAL CLAUSE, A PENALTY CLAUSE, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. SECOND READING. SO MOVED. MOVED . ALRIGHT, GOT A, I GOT A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER BRANTLEY AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER SCHICK. DO I, WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION FOR THIS? UH, YES. THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNSEL? YEP. UH, THIS IS THE SECOND READING. UH, YOU RECALL THAT YOU PASSED IT ON FIRST READING MM-HMM . AND THERE WAS THE REQUEST THAT, UH, ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE BE ADDED, UH, TO ADDRESS THE HEIGHT OF OVERHANGING LIMBS AND SUCH. AND SO IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THE, UH, PROPOSED ORDINANCE IN YOUR PACKET ON PAGE THREE, YOU'LL SEE A NEW, [01:25:01] UH, SUBSECTION H UH, THAT IS UNDERLINED, BUT ALSO, UH, HIGHLIGHTED IN RED. THAT SPEAKS TO, UH, MINIMUM CLEARANCE OF TREES. JUST WANTED TO, UH, NOTE THAT. ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR CONCERNS ABOUT THIS? I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE THIS IS GONNA BE GOOD BY ADDING THAT OR CHANGING IT. DO WE HAVE TO DO A FIRST READING AGAIN? UH, NO, SIR. I DON'T THINK IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE. AND IT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE FIRST MEETING. ALL RIGHT. SO IF THAT'S THIS CASE, UH, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASS. NUMBER EIGHT. NEW [8.A RESOLUTION XXX-2025- Consideration and Possible Action on a Resolution 8.B 8.C 8.D Approving the Terms and Conditions of an Agreement Between the City of Dickinson, Texas, and Galveston County, Texas, Authorizing Galveston County to Conduct the City of Dickinson's May 3, 2025, General Election Pursuant to Texas Election Code Chapter 31.093.] BUSINESS. ALRIGHT, UH, EIGHT. A CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON A RESOLUTION, UH, APPROVING THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF DICKINSON, TEXAS AND GALVESTON COUNTY, TEXAS, AUTHORIZING GALVESTON COUNTY TO CONDUCT THE CITY OF DICKINSON MAY 3RD, 2025, GENERAL ELECTION PURSUANT TO TEXAS ELECTION CODE CHAPTER 31.093. MOVE PROOF. SECOND. I GOT A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER SCHICK AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, BRANTLEY. UH, AND DO WE, WE DON'T, DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? DO GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS? YEP. HOW MUCH IS THIS GONNA COST? BECAUSE WHEN YOU GO THROUGH IT, IT'S A HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR THIS, 250 FOR THIS 500 FOR THIS. IF YOU TURN IT DOWN, IT'S 500. UM, YES. UH, CARRIE LYNN, DO YOU KNOW HISTORICALLY HOW MUCH THE GENERAL ELECTION RUNS? BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE, I BELIEVE IT'S ABOUT TO PULLING OFF. I BELIEVE IT'S ABOUT 20,000, I BELIEVE IS, IS WHAT WE NORMALLY BUDGET. SO IT ENDS UP BEING ABOUT 20,000. I WAS TRYING TO GIVE YOU AN EXACT NUMBER, BUT I WOULD SAY ABOUT 20 IT COMES. NO, THAT'S ALL I NEED. BUT THERE WAS ONE PROVISION IN THERE. YOU HAD TO DO SOMETHING BY FEBRUARY THE 13TH, BUT YOU CAN FILE FOR OFFICE ALL THE WAY UP TO FEBRUARY THE 14TH. WASN'T THAT YOUR LAST DAY TO CANCEL THE ELECTION? I THINK IT WAS. UH, YEAH. SO IT'LL BE THE LAST DAY TO CANCEL. WE HAVE HISTORICALLY WORKED WITH THE COUNTY, UH, BECAUSE WE ARE FOLLOWING THE STATE GUIDELINES. UM, SO THE COUNTY HAS HISTORICALLY, UH, UH, A LOT, YOU KNOW, WOULD WAIT TILL THE STATE. UM, THEY, I DON'T THINK THAT THEY WOULD, UH, NEED TO CHANGE. DO YOU THINK THEY WOULD NEED TO CHANGE THE LANGUAGE ON IT FOR HEY, WHAT IT'S ON PAGE THREE, NINE? YEAH, THREE OF NINE. AND IT'S 2 5, 2 5, 2 5. IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE NAME OF THE CANDIDATES AND ON THE COPY AND ALL THAT MATERIALS. DON'T LETTER TO FEBRUARY THE 13TH. AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHO'S GONNA FILE TILL FEBRUARY THE 14TH AT FIVE O'CLOCK? LET'S SEE. LEMME SEE IF I CAN, SO, YEAH, SO ON, UH, YEAH, SO OUR LAST DATE WOULD BE, UH, FEBRUARY 14TH. DO YOU, DO YOU THINK, UH, UH, IN, IN APPROVAL WITH, UH, MAYBE CHANGING THE DATE TO, UH, FEBRUARY 14TH? OR ACTUALLY PROBABLY FEBRUARY 18TH. 'CAUSE THAT WOULD BE THE MONDAY YOU THINK OF? WE COULD GET THAT MODIFIED NOW? UH, YES, WE CAN DO THAT. OKAY. SO WE'LL SET IT AND, AND ASK THEM TO CHANGE FEBRUARY 13TH TO FEBRUARY 18TH. I'M, I'M SURE THAT THEY 'CAUSE FEBRUARY. 'CAUSE THAT, THAT HAS TO BE A TYPO. 'CAUSE EVERYONE'S FOLLOWING STATE LAW. I MEAN, EVERYBODY HAS TO. THEY HAVE TO. SO LIKE, YOU CAN'T CLOSE IT A DAY EARLY, YOU KNOW, SO, OKAY. SO, SO DO I, UH, LET ME ASK ONE MORE QUESTION. IS THIS FOR, 'CAUSE AT ONE TIME WE HAD THE OPTION OF HAVING ONE LOCATION OR TWO LOCATIONS. MM-HMM. MM-HMM . IS THIS FOR THE TWO LOCATION OPTIONS? YEAH. SO, SO WHAT THIS IS FOR IS, UM, SINCE THIS IS A UNIFORM DATE ELECTION, NOT A SPECIAL ELECTION, UH, FOR UNIFORM DATE, THEY WOULD OPEN CITY HALL FOR SPECIAL ELECTION TIME. AND THEN I BELIEVE THEY WOULD, AND CITY HALL IS ALWAYS OPEN FOR THE ELECT FOR ELECTION DAY. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE OPENING THE, FOR THE COUNTY, UH, UH, COMMUNITY CENTER THOUGH. I, I, THIS CONTRACT IS FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO RUN OUR ELECTION IN EVERY LOCATION THEY DECIDE TO OPEN BASICALLY COUNTYWIDE. BUT OUR CITY HALL IS ALWAYS FOR THAT, UH, COMMUNITY CENTER, I BELIEVE HAS BEEN USED FOR THE EARLY VOTING. BUT I THINK THIS LAST ELECTION, THEY DIDN'T DO IT ON ELECTION DAY, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. IF FOR, UH, ONE OF THE, I THINK THE HIGHWAY THREE IS AN ELECTION DAY. IT, THEY ARE AN ELECTION DAY. WELL, THEY HAVE ALWAYS HISTORICALLY DONE BOTH. THIS CONTRACT IS, IS A STANDARD CONTRACT WE HAVE SIGNED EVERY TIME. AND SO, UH, BUT, BUT WHAT IT WAS, BUT WHAT THIS AGREEMENT IS, IS THE CITY, CITY OF DICKINSON'S ELECTION, EVERY POLLING [01:30:01] PLACE THEY DO OPEN, THERE WILL BE A BALLOT OPTION FOR YOU. IF YOU'RE ON, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE IN GALVESTON, YOU CAN, YOU CAN VOTE, BUT IT'S FOR EVERY PLACE THEY DECIDE TO OPEN UP IN THE COUNTY. ALL RIGHT. DID EVERYONE GET THEIR QUESTIONS ANSWERED? SO I GOT A MOTION, UH, DO WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT MOTION TO, WITH, WITH UPDATES? YES. AND I'LL HAVE NIM REACH OUT TO THE, THE COUNTY ELECTION OFFICIALS SO HE CAN KIND OF POINT OUT THE STATE LAW, YOU KNOW, ISSUE THERE. OKAY. SO I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO, UH, AMEND THIS WITH OR WITH CHANGES. SO, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSED. EIGHT BA [8.B. RESOLUTION NO XXX-2025 – A Resolution of the City council of the city of Dickinson, Texas, ordering a General Election to be held on Tuesday, May 3, 2025 for the purpose of electing 3 members of the City of Dickinson City Council, Position 2, Position 4, and Position 6; providing an open meetings clause; and, providing an effective date.] RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL, OF THE CITY OF DICKINSON, TEXAS. ORDERING, ORDERING A GENERAL ELECTION TO BE HELD ON TUESDAY, MAY 3RD, 2025. FOR THE PURPOSE OF ELECTING THREE MEMBERS OF THE CITY OF DICKINSON CITY COUNCIL, POSITION TWO, POSITION FOUR, AND POSITION SIX, PROVIDING AN OPEN MEETING CLAUSE AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE MOVE TO APPROVE WITH ONE CORRECTION. SHOULDN'T IT BE SATURDAY, MAY 3RD, CORRECT? YES. YES. THE AGENDA SAYS SAT, THE AGENDA SAYS TUESDAY, BUT THE PAPERWORK IN THE PACKET SAYS SATURDAY. THAT MUST HAVE BEEN A CARRY OVER TUESDAY FROM THE LANGUAGE. YEAH, THAT WAS A CARRY OVER FROM THE LANGUAGE OF THE TUESDAY ELECTION WE HAD. SO WE'LL GET THAT. WE'LL HAVE TO JUST AMEND OUR, UH, MOTION THERE. OKAY. AT THE TOP IT SAYS ON THE RESOLUTION IT SAYS SATURDAY. YEAH, BUT I GUESS IN THE, IN THE BODY IT SAYS TUESDAY. YEAH, WE'LL GET THAT CORRECTED. SO THE APPROVED WITH THE NECESSARY CORRECTION. ALL RIGHT. SO I GOT A MOTION FOR APPROVAL WITH CORRECTION. I WILL ABSOLUTELY SECOND THIS. GOT A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER BRANTLEY, UH, YIELD. DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSED. ALRIGHT, [8.C. Consideration and possible action to accept the Annual Comprehensive Financial Report (ACFR) for the year ended September 30, 2023. ] EIGHT C. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO ACCEPT THE ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE YEAR ENDED SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2023. I, WE HAVE LEWIS. I KNOW WE HAD, UH, WE HAVE SOME PRESENTATIONS. YES, WE DO. LEWIS, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. HAPPY TO BE HERE, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO TODAY. EVENING COUNSEL, UH, MY NAME IS LOUIS BREEDLOVE. UH, HAVE BEEN HERE A FEW TIMES RECENTLY. AND HAPPY TO REPORT THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN THE CITY CAUGHT UP ON FINANCIAL AUDITS. UH, THIS IS THE PRESENTATION FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023. UM, AND WE ARE ON TARGET TO RIGHT NOW, 2024 IS THE TIME PERIOD THAT WE ARE AUDITING NOW, WHICH IS IN LINE WITH OTHER CITIES. AND SO WE WILL BE ON TARGET TO GET THAT PRESENTED IN THE TIMEFRAME. IT SHOULD BE SO EXCITED TO HAVE THE CITY OF DICKINSON CAUGHT UP ON AUDITS. UM, I WILL BE UTILIZING THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION TO GO OVER THE RESULTS OF THE AUDIT, AND THEN I'LL DEFINITELY HAVE TIME FOR QUESTIONS AT THE END. UM, LEMME SEE IF I CAN, HOW DO I NEED TO TURN IT ON? SORRY. THERE WE GO. I GOT IT. GOT IT. OKAY. UH, SO FIRST, UH, JUST, UH, GO QUICKLY OVER THE AUDIT PROCESS JUST TO PROVIDE A LITTLE INSIGHT ON WHAT WE'RE DOING DURING THE AUDIT. SO, UH, ONE, WE DO PERFORM THE AUDIT IN ACCORDANCE WITH GENERALLY ACCEPTED AUDITING STANDARDS. UH, AND WHEN WE'RE PERFORMING THE AUDIT, WE BREAK IT DOWN INTO VARIOUS PHASES. UH, THE FIRST PHASE BEING THE PLANNING PHASE, WHICH INCLUDES, UH, ASSESSMENTS. SO WE COME IN AND WE REVIEW ALL THE, PRETTY MUCH ANYWHERE WHERE MONEY'S COMING IN OR GOING OUT. WE'RE CONSIDERING THE CONTROLS THAT ARE IN PLACE. UH, WE'RE REVIEWING POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT THE CITY HAS. WE'RE SITTING DOWN WITH EACH OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS AND, UM, WALKING THROUGH HOW THEY OPERATE, AS WELL AS DOING SAMPLE TESTS OVER EACH OF THOSE AREAS TO ENSURE THAT WHAT'S HAPPENING AT PRACTICES CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE EXPECT BASED ON THOSE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. UH, FROM THAT, UM, WE WOULD MAKE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR, FOR ANY ISSUES FOUND OR IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE MIGHT SEE. BUT, UH, THE CITY IS OPERATING WELL AND DIDN'T HAVE ANY, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS AT THIS TIME. UM, THEN WE MOVE INTO THAT RISK-BASED APPROACH. SO WE EVERY YEAR EVALUATE THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS IN EACH LINE ITEM WITHIN THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS TO DETERMINE THE TYPE OF RISK THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH IT, AND WHETHER THAT NOT THAT RISK HAS GONE UP OR DOWN FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR. AND THEN THAT PROCESS DRIVES THE TYPE OF PROCEDURES THAT WE PERFORMED DURING THE AUDIT, WHAT LEVEL OF DETAIL WE NEED TO PERFORM THOSE PROCEDURES, UH, TO ENSURE THAT WE FEEL, UH, COMFORTABLE WITH THE MATERIAL ACCURACY OF THE FINANCIALS, UH, UPON COMPLETION. UH, THEN THERE'S THE ACTUAL FIELD WORK PORTION. SO WE HAVE OUR, UH, COMPLIANCE TESTING. THAT'S GONNA BE THINGS [01:35:01] SUCH AS YOUR PUBLIC FUND INVESTMENT ACT, GRANT REQUIREMENTS, UH, BID REQUIREMENTS. UH, WE REVIEW ALL CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES TO SEE IF YOU ALL MAY HAVE APPROVED SOMETHING THAT HAS A, UH, COMPLIANCE COMPONENT TO IT THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER AND, UH, DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S, UH, IN LINE. UH, AND, UH, AND WE ALSO, THAT WOULD INCORPORATE THE SINGLE AUDIT, UH, FOR THOSE GRANTS IF, UH, IF AND WHEN THE CITY MEETS THAT THRESHOLD. UH, WHICH FOR FISCAL YEAR, UH, 23 AS A AND ALSO 24, IT WAS, UH, 750,000. SO THE CITY DID, UH, MEET THAT THRESHOLD. UH, SO DID HAVE A SINGLE AUDIT, WHICH I'LL, UH, TOUCH ON A LITTLE BIT MORE IN, IN A MOMENT. UM, THEN WE DO THAT WHAT WE CALL, UH, THAT YEAR IN FIELD WORK PIECE, WHERE WE'RE TYING OUT THE, THE NUMBERS FOR. SO WE'RE PERFORMING, UH, CUTOFF PROCEDURES. UH, WE'RE CONFIRMING WITH THIRD PARTY, WHEREVER POSSIBLE, UH, SUCH AS YOUR BANK. UH, WE, WE, UH, UH, AS ASSESSOR COLLECTOR, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. UM, AND THEN AS WE'RE TYING OUT THE BALANCE SHEET AND ENSURING THOSE ARE MATERIALLY ACCURATE, WE'RE ALSO TESTING THE MATERIAL ACCURACY OF YOUR REVENUES AND YOUR EXPENSES. UH, ONCE WE DO THAT, WE MOVE IN OUR CONCLUSION REPORTING PHASE. SO IT'LL GO THROUGH MULTIPLE LAYERS OF REVIEW TO ENSURE NO ADDITIONAL PROCEDURES ARE NECESSARY, UH, AND THEN PREPARE THE REPORT AND THE LETTERS THAT WE HAVE FOR YOU THIS EVENING. UH, NEXT, GOING OVER THIS, THE COMPONENTS OF THE AUDIT, UH, REPORT. SO FROM FRONT TO BACK, THERE'S AN AUDITOR'S OPINION. THAT'S OUR OPINION OVER THE FINANCIALS, THE MANAGEMENT'S DISCUSSION ANALYSIS OR THE MDNA, THAT'S GONNA GIVE YOU SOME YEAR TO YEAR COMPARISON, UM, UH, OVER THE, THE HIGH LEVEL LEVEL NUMBERS, AS WELL AS GO OVER SOME KEY ITEMS SUCH AS BUDGET, DEBT ACTIVITY, CAPITAL ACTIVITY, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND THEN BEHIND, THAT'S YOUR BASIC FINANCIAL STATEMENTS. SO THAT'S GONNA CONTAIN YOUR GOVERNMENT WIDE STATEMENTS OR YOUR FULL COOL STATEMENTS BEHIND. THAT'S YOUR FUND LEVEL STATEMENTS. SO THAT'S GONNA BE MORE OF THAT CASH BASIS, MODIFIED CASH BASIS. AND THEN YOUR NOTES TO THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS. AND THOSE NOTES ARE GONNA GIVE YOU A LOT OF DETAIL, UH, CHARTS, SUMMARIES THAT CORRELATE WITH THOSE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS IN THE FRONT AND BEHIND THAT IS YOUR REQUIRED SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION, SUCH AS YOUR BUDGET, BUDGET TO ACTUAL FOR YOUR GENERAL FUND, AS WELL AS, UH, TMRS PENSION INFORMATION. UH, AS IT RELATES TO THAT FIRST ITEM, THE AUDITOR'S OPINION LETTER. THERE ARE FOUR POSSIBLE OPINION TYPES THAT WE AS AUDITORS ARE ABLE TO ISSUE. THERE'S AN UNMODIFIED, A QUALIFIED, A DISCLAIMED, OR AN ADVERSE OPINION. AND, UH, THE CITY DID RECEIVE AN UNMODIFIED OPINION, OFTEN REFERRED TO AS A CLEAN OPINION. AND THAT IS THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF ASSURANCE THAT WE AS AUDITORS ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE. SO THE CITY GOT A CLEAN REPORT. UH, NEXT GO OVER, UH, THE CHANGES FOR THE YEAR. I'M GONNA HAVE TO LOOK DOWN 'CAUSE WHAT CLASSES AREN'T GOOD ENOUGH TO SEE THAT UP THERE. UM, BUT THIS IS, UH, RECAPS, UH, FROM A SUMMARY VIEW OF YOUR REVENUES, EXPENDITURES AND AS WELL AS YOUR OTHER SOURCES AND USES AT THE MAJOR FUND LEVEL. SO, UH, THIS OVER YOUR GENERAL FUND. UH, OVERALL, THE NET CHANGE IN FUND BALANCE WAS A DECREASE BY 2.7 MILLION FOR THE YEAR, UH, THAT WE DO. I HAVE A BUDGET TO ACTUAL THAT WE'LL LOOK AT HERE IN A SECOND, BUT THAT IS PRIMARILY DUE TO YOUR SALES TAX NUMBERS BEING, UH, MUCH LOWER THAN ANTICIPATED FOR THAT YEAR. UM, THAT'S THE PRIMARY DRIVER FOR THAT DECREASE. UH, OTHER THAN THAT, YOUR DEBIT SERVICE FUND HAD AN INCREASE OF 128,000 YEAR GRANTS FUND, A SLIGHT INCREASE BY 27,000, UH, STREET MAINTENANCE FUND, 84,000 INCREASE. UH, THEN THERE'S YOUR PID ONE AND TWO, UH, UP BY 53 AND 14,000. AND THEN NON-MAJOR GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS ARE GONNA BE ALL OTHER SPECIAL REVENUE, UH, FUNDS, UM, THAT DO NOT MEET THE MAJOR, UH, FUND DETERMINATION REQUIREMENT. UH, SO THOSE ARE GONNA BE CONSOLIDATED AND THERE'S A BREAKDOWN OF THOSE IN THE BACK OF THE REPORT. BUT THOSE SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS OVERALL HAD A NET DECREASE IN FUND BALANCE BY 116,000. UH, THE PRIMARY DRIVER FOR THAT ONE IS THE, UH, THE ANIMAL, UH, FUND, UH, BY ANIMAL FUND. AND OTHERWISE THE REST OF THE FUNDS WERE RELATIVELY CONSISTENT, UH, NOT A BIG UP OR DOWN FOR THE OTHER FUNDS. NEXT, AS IT RELATES TO THE GENERAL FUND AND THE FUND BALANCE FOR THE, FOR THE YEAR, UH, SO THIS IS YOUR BUDGET COMPARISON AT A SUMMARY LEVEL LOOK, UH, FAR RIGHT COLUMN WILL SHOW YOU THEIR OVERALL VARIANCE. UM, THE REVENUE HAVING A NEGATIVE VARIANCE, MEANING THAT THERE WAS 6.8 MILLION LESS IN REVENUES THAN, THAN BUDGETED FOR, FOR THE YEAR. UH, AGAIN, I NOTED THAT WAS DUE PRIMARILY DUE TO SALES TAX. UM, WE DID HAVE A, UH, I DIDN'T HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEO. WE JUST TO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT, ALL THAT INFORMATION COMES FROM THE COMPTROLLER. UM, THAT, AND YOU, YOU GUYS, UH, UTILIZE A, UM, TAX ORGANIZATION TO HELP BREAK DOWN THE DETAILS AND DETERMINE AND ANALYZE THOSE THINGS. SO WE WERE ABLE TO DETERMINE WHAT COMPANIES, UH, HAD LOWER TAXABLE REVENUE. AND SO IT'S HARD TO ANTICIPATE THOSE THINGS. BUT, UM, YEAH, THAT'S, THOSE SELL TAX NUMBERS WERE DOWN FOR ABOUT, BY ABOUT FIVE PLUS MILLION, [01:40:01] UH, FOR THE YEAR, UM, COMPARED, OR 6 MILLION COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS YEAR. AND SO OVERALL WAS A LITTLE OVER 5 MILLION UNDER, UH, UNDER BUDGET FOR THE REVENUE AMOUNT. SO, UH, THAT WAS THE PRIMARY DRIVER THERE. AND THEN THERE WAS AN OTHER REVENUE, UH, PORTION OF IT AS WELL THAT DROVE THE REST OF THAT. UH, AND THAT WAS DUE TO SOME GRANTS THAT JUST, THAT WERE BUDGETED FOR. THAT DIDN'T OCCUR DURING THE YEAR. UM, FOR YOUR EXPENSES, YOU HAD A POSITIVE VARIANCE THERE. UH, 3.9 MILLION, MEANING THAT YOU STAYED 3.9 MILLION UNDER BUDGET FOR THE YEAR. SO, UM, SO OVERALL, UM, YOU KNOW, GIVEN, GIVEN THE DECREASE IN REVENUES, THAT WAS, UH, THAT WAS GREAT TO SEE BECAUSE OVERALL THE YEAR YOUR DECREASE, IT WAS NOT AS BAD AN OVERALL, UH, FUND BALANCE DUE TO THAT. AND SO YOUR OTHER SOURCES AND USES HAD A POSITIVE VARIANCE OF 114,000. THAT'S GONNA BE TRANSFERS IN, TRANSFERS OUT AND SOME OTHER NON-OPERATING TYPE TRANSACTIONS THERE. UH, SO THOSE ARE, BUT THAT IS PRIMARILY TRANSFERS OUT. UM, BUT NET POSITIVE OR NET NEGATIVE VARIANCE OF 2.7 MILLION, UH, CAUSING THAT DECREASE IN FUND BALANCE. UH, AS IT RELATES TO THE UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE, WE ALWAYS EVALUATE THAT TO SEE WHERE IT ALIGNS WITH THE, THE EXPENDITURES FOR THE YEAR. SO WE WANT TO SEE, UM, A MINIMUM OF 16% THERE AS THE, THE MINIMUM RECOMMENDATION. UM, TARGET WOULD BE MORE LIKE AROUND 20 TO 25, EVEN UP TO 30% WILL BE, UH, UH, ON THE HIGH END. AS FAR AS A, A GOAL FOR THAT, LAST YEAR, THE CITY WAS AT 20%, UH, WITH THE 2023 YEAR DUE TO THAT. UH, DUE TO THAT, UM, DECREASE IN ACTIVITY, IT RESULTED IN A, GOING DOWN TO 11% OF UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE. UH, SO THAT IS WHEN YOU'RE COMPARING YOUR OPERATING EXPENSES FOR THE YEAR TO YOUR FUND BALANCE, UH, UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE. AND HOW APPROXIMATELY HOW LONG WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO OPERATE, UH, ON AVERAGE INTO THAT NEXT YEAR WITHOUT RECEIVING ADDITIONAL FUNDS? IS ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT IT. SO, UM, SO IT WAS DOWN FOR 23, BUT WE, WE KNOW THAT IT WAS PRIMARILY DUE TO THAT DECREASE IN, UH, IN SALES REVENUE. AND SO FAR, LOOKING AT 24, WE'VE GOT, WE HAVE STARTED THAT YEAR. LOOKS LIKE IT'S IMPROVED SINCE THEN. UH, NEXT CONCERNING THE SINGLE AUDIT. UH, SO THAT IS ONE, THE FEDERAL FUNDS ARE UTILIZED BY THE CITY. UH, WHEN THEY EXCEED 750,000 FOR THE YEAR. WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO A MORE DETAILED, UH, APPROACH TO THE AUDIT AS WELL. 'CAUSE IT, IT INCLUDES IN ADDITION TO JUST TESTING THE EXPENSES, UM, OF A LOT OF COMPLIANCE COMPONENTS AS IT RELATES TO THOSE GRANTING AGENCIES. UH, SO HAPPY TO REPORT THERE WERE NO, UH, MATERIAL WEAKNESSES IDENTIFIED OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE AS IT RELATED TO THE FEDERAL AWARDS. AND SO, UH, CLEAN REPORT ON THAT. AND THEN NEXT, COMMUNICATION LETTERS. THERE ARE TWO LETTERS THAT COME WITH THE REPORT. THE FIRST BEING THE COMMUNICATION WITH THOSE CHARGED WITH GOVERNANCE. UH, THAT IS, UH, A LOT OF REQUIRED COMMUNICATION CONCERNING OUR RESPONSIBILITY OVER THE AUDIT. UH, CITY MANAGEMENT'S RESPONSIBILITY AS IT PERTAINS TO THE AUDIT. AND THEN THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER KEY FACTORS IN THERE, AS WELL AS THE AUDIT ADJUSTMENTS THAT WERE NEEDED FOR THE YEAR. UH, THERE ARE THREE POINTS I ALWAYS LIKE TO POINT OUT FROM THAT LETTER. UH, ONE, THE AUDIT WAS CONDUCTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL ETHICS REQUIREMENTS CONCERNING INDEPENDENCE. UH, TWO, WE HAD NO DIFFICULTIES ENCOUNTERED WHEN WORKING WITH MANAGEMENT. AND THREE, UH, THERE WERE NO UNCORRECTED MISSTATEMENTS, UH, IDENTIFIED. THE SECOND LETTER IS THE COMMUNICATION REGARDING INTERNAL CONTROLS. SO THIS WOULD BE ANY CONCERNS OR ISSUES THAT WE IDENTIFY, WE WOULD PRESENT THAT IN THAT LETTER. UH, THE ONLY ONE NOTED WAS JUST WAS ONE DUE TO THE NUMBER OF JOURNAL ENTRIES STILL NEEDED. UH, SPEAKING WITH THE FINANCE TEAM HERE, THEY, UH, THEY, THEY HAVE REDUCED THAT DOWN FROM THE PAST. AND, UM, THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE JOURNAL ENTRIES THAT WERE NECESSARY FOR THE AUDIT AND EVALUATING HOW THEY CAN REDUCE THAT DOWN, UH, FOR THIS NEXT YEAR. UM, USUALLY IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY, UH, THEY DID PREPARE THREE AUDITS BACK TO BACK, UH, UH, SO, UH, IN, IN SEEING IMPROVEMENT EACH STEP OF THE WAY, AND I THINK IN THIS NEW SYSTEM, UH, THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO, UH, IMPROVE THAT NUMBER OF JOURNAL ENTRIES NEEDED FOR THE AUDIT. UH, AND JUST WANNA KNOW, THOSE ARE ALL THOSE YEAR END TYPE ADJUSTMENTS. NOT CORRECTING ERRORS OR, OR PROBLEMS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED, BUT JUST YEAR END ACCRUAL, ACCRUAL ADJUSTMENTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO, UM, NO TRUE JOURNALING TREES OF CONCERN. UH, AND WITH THAT, OPEN UP TO ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. WHO'S GOT QUESTIONS? I DON'T THINK IT'S A QUESTION. IT'S MORE OF A, A STATEMENT AS WE GO THROUGH THESE. I UNDERSTAND WE TOOK A $2 MILLION HIT ON SALES TAX, BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE AUDITS TO 21, [01:45:01] WE WENT FROM 35% TO 20% LAST YEAR TO 11% THIS YEAR. AGAIN, WE HAD A, WE HAD A LIVELY BUDGET DISCUSSION THIS YEAR. AND AGAIN, I SAID IT ONCE AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN 'CAUSE I UNDERSTAND, BUT DEPENDING ON WHAT WE LOOK AT, WE EITHER HAVE 6% OR WE HAVE 12% IN THE BANK FOR THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. SO WE HAVE MADE SOME PURCHASES AND DONE SOME THINGS THAT ARE ON FALL ON COUNCIL BY SPENDING MONEY DURING THE YEAR AND NOT TAKING A GOOD LOOK AT OUR BUDGET. MM-HMM . SO WE NEED TO BE VERY CLEAR, WE HAD A HURRICANE LAST YEAR. ONE MORE WOULD'VE PUT US IN A HOLE. WE HAD TO STORM IN APRIL, THEN WE HAD THE HURRICANE. NOW WE'VE HAD TORNADO HIT RIGHT AFTER CHRISTMAS THAT DID SOME DAMAGE IN TOWN. I KNOW IT TORE UP ONE MAN'S HOUSE PROBABLY WE HAD TO CUT SOMEBODY ELSE OUT SO THEY COULD GET OUT OF THEIRS. MM-HMM . THAT WASN'T A LOT OF DAMAGE, BUT THEN WE HAD TO, WE HAD TO SNOWSTORM. SO WE'VE BEEN FAIRLY LUCKY. WE HAVEN'T HAD TO BE OUT A LOT OF MONEY FOR CLEANUPS ON STUFF, BUT SOONER OR LATER YOUR LUCK RUNS OUT. WELL, I THINK, UH, PART OF WORKING WITH LEWIS NOW AS, UM, AS OUR AUDIT MANAGER HERE, IS REALLY KIND OF HELPING FINANCE ON THE FRONT END BECAUSE, UH, FOR A GOOD BIT OF TIME, UM, I, AND I, I KNOW THIS BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, I KNOW SARAH HAS REACHED OUT TO, TO YOUR FIRM QUITE A BIT. UM, HISTORICALLY I WOULD SAY THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T GET A TON OF RESPONSE. YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE NORMALLY THE TYPE OF RELATIONSHIP YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE BETWEEN YOUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND YOUR, YOUR AUDIT FIRM IS, IS, UH, IS IS ONE OF SOME TYPE OF OPEN COMMUNICATION. BEING ABLE TO SAY, HEY, HOW SHOULD I BOOK THIS? HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW SHOULD WE DO THESE THINGS? AND, AND I, AND I'M NOT NECESSARILY CERTAIN THAT OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT PREVIOUSLY WAS RECEIVING SOME OF THAT HELP. SO WHENEVER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DISCREPANCIES AND NEEDING TO CLEAN UP SOME OF THE STUFF THAT, LIKE WE DID HAVE THE LIVELY BUDGET DISCUSSIONS, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THE RELATIONSHIP THAT'S BEING BUILT WITH, UH, WITH BROOK WA BROOKS WATSON IS GONNA HELP KIND OF ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT. I'D ALSO SAY, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK COUNCIL DID A VERY GOOD JOB IN BUDGET THIS YEAR IS WE REALLY SAT DOWN, DRILLED DOWN. UM, ALSO WAS WILLING TO GO AND, AND, AND BRING THE TAX RATE UP TO A LEVEL THAT, THAT THAT KIND OF WAS HELPING THE BUTTRESS UP AGAINST SOME THINGS WHERE YOU, WE EVEN PUT ASIDE FUNDING IN THE EMERGENCY FUND AS PART OF THE DEAL. SO THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT IN THIS BUDGET WE'VE NOT HISTORICALLY DONE. AND THE GOAL WILL BE FROM HERE ON, UM, HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE A REBOUND IN, UH, IN, IN THE SALES TAXES REGARDING HOME BUILDING, WHICH IS WHAT REALLY HURT US HERE. UM, BUT I THINK ONE OF THE, THE MAJOR THINGS WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO, UH, IS, UH, AND WE'VE BEEN MONITORING BUDGET. UM, IN FACT WE'RE HAVING OUR FIRST MEETINGS WITH STAFF A LITTLE BIT RIGHT NOW IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. AND WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS THAT STAFF HAS BEEN HOLDING COST CONTAINMENT VERY WELL AND WE'LL BE PROVIDING, UH, YOU GUYS WITH THAT, UH, AFTER WE MEET WITH OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS, WE'RE GONNA BE SENDING THAT OUT TO COUNCIL TO KIND OF SHOW WHERE WE ARE BUDGET WISE. AND WE'RE PRETTY MUCH RIGHT ON TARGET WITH EVERYTHING ACROSS THE BOARD. AND I BELIEVE OUR REVENUES ARE HOLDING ABOUT WHERE PROJECTION IS AS WELL, SARAH. SO WE'RE KIND OF, WE, OUR BUDGET IS ACTUALLY TRUE TO WHAT IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW. SO I I THINK YOU'RE GONNA SEE THAT WE ARE CHECKING CHECK MARKING WELL, UH, FOR, FOR 25. SO, BUT I AGREE WITH YOU, WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T BE, WE GOT, WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA TIGHTEN THE BELT UP TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN RESPOND IN THESE EMERGENCIES. WELL I NOTICED THAT WE SPENT MONEY MM-HMM . AND WE DIDN'T ASK HOW IT WAS GONNA AFFECT THE BUDGET. MM-HMM . MM-HMM WELL NOW YOU KNOW HOW IT AFFECTS THE BUDGET 'CAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE NO MONEY IN SAVINGS OR NOT VERY MUCH. SO WHEN YOU DO THOSE THINGS, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS, WHETHER IT'S HERE OR AT HOME. MM-HMM . MM-HMM . IF YOU DON'T WATCH THE OUTGO WITH YOUR INCOME, YOU GET IN BAD SHAPE. SO I THINK WE'VE GOT THAT UNDER CONTROL 'CAUSE EVERYBODY'S LOOKING AT IT NOW. MM-HMM . WHETHER YOU'RE ON THIS TABLE OR OUT THERE IN THAT AUDIENCE OR, OR WHEREVER THERE, EVERYBODY'S GOT A EYEBALL ON US NOW. NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT IT. YES SIR. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT IT. SECOND. ALRIGHT. I GOT A MOTION FROM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TOWNSEND AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER SIMPSON . SO WHEN, SO WHEN IN THE PAST, LIKE I SAID, I'M, I'M NEW HERE, RIGHT? UH, 22, 21, 23. UM, HOW OFTEN DO WE ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE BUDGET AND TRACK IT IN RELATION TO ACTUAL VERSUS SO, UH, CURRENT WHERE WE'RE AT? LIKE I KNOW WE'RE LOOKING TO DO THAT [01:50:01] 'CAUSE I TALKED, WE TALKED ABOUT IT, RIGHT. UM, BUT I WAS CURIOUS HOW, HOW DID THAT EXIST BACK THEN? UM, UH, HISTORICALLY WHEN, UNFORTUNATELY THIS WOULD BE BEFORE LEWIS WAS, WAS UH, WAS WORKING WITH US, UM, THE BIGGEST ISSUE, AND THAT'S BEEN KIND OF SOME OF THE ISSUES ON, ON FINANCE HERE, IS THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO BUILD UP THE, UH, UH, ACCOUNTABILITY STRUCTURE SO THAT, UH, YOU GUYS WOULD BE GETTING SOMETHING AT LEAST QUARTERLY. NOW, ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES WE WERE RUNNING INTO IS THAT BECAUSE WE WERE WORKING TO TRY TO GET TO 21, 22 AND 23 AUDITS BACK TO BACK TO BACK DONE, UH, BOOKING THINGS IN, WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY AS, AS UP TO DATE AS WE'RE GETTING TO NOW THAT WE'RE KIND OF LIKE, HAVE SOME BREATHING ROOMS ABOUT TO START THE 24 AUDITS OF WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE INSTEAD OF THERE BEING SOMETHING QUARTERLY THAT IS IN THE BALLPARK BUT STILL MISSING SOME ENTRIES. OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE, AND, AND WITH THIS FINANCE COMMITTEE BRING SOMETHING TO COUNCIL ON A MONTHLY BASIS SO THAT YOU'RE GETTING A MONTHLY UPDATE. UH, AND I THINK THIS IS A GREAT TIME FOR IT. 'CAUSE NOW THAT WE'RE BACK ON TIME FOR THE AUDITS, YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL, UH, STAFF'S NOT JUGGLING THREE, UH, FISCAL YEARS AT THE SAME TIME. SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THAT SPEED UP AND YOU'LL HAVE MUCH MORE ACCURATE MONTH END, UH, STUFF FOR THE FOLLOWING MONTH. AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE HAD WANTED TO HAVE THE, THE FOURTH TUESDAY OF THE MONTH. 'CAUSE THAT GIVES TIME FOR FINANCE TO GET THE MONTH END STUFF BOOKED. AND THEN YOU'LL BE GETTING THAT AT COUNCIL BECAUSE I MEAN, THAT'S THE, YOU KNOW, I TALKED TO MY CLIENTS IN MY INDUSTRY ALL THE TIME ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IF THE MARKET'S NOT DOING WELL, MAYBE WE'RE NOT TAKING THAT VACATION THIS YEAR. MM-HMM . RIGHT. AND IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE NUMBERS, AND I'VE LOOKED THROUGH SOME OF THEM IN THE PAST AND, UM, WE MAY, WE, YEAH, WE MADE LESS MONEY, BUT WE SPENT DANG NEAR THE SAME. LIKE WE DIDN'T TRY TO CUT ANYTHING. AND IF WE'RE NOT TRACKING IT, LIKE THIS IS TO WHAT MARK'S SAYING, BASICALLY I'M JUST REITERATING LIKE THAT'S A HUGE ISSUE FOR ANY ORGANIZATION, WHETHER IT'S GOVERNMENT, PRIVATE, PUBLIC, IT DOESN'T MATTER. SO WE HAVE TO HAVE THOSE DONE BY LIKE THE NEXT MEETING MM-HMM . BECAUSE WE CAN'T WAIT TILL 2025 TO KNOW, OH MAN, WE ARE MM-HMM . DWINDLING. MM-HMM . UM, SO WE SHOULD, THAT SHOULD DEFINITELY BE A HIGHER PRIORITY SO WE CAN ACTUALLY USE OUR BUDGET LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED TO. MM-HMM . RIGHT? LIKE I KNOW, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BRANTLEY AND MYSELF HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS, IT'S LIKE A BUDGET'S JUST A DOCUMENT UNLESS YOU'RE ACTUALLY USING IT. RIGHT. DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. IF YOU LOOK AT IT THE FIRST OF THE YEAR AND THEN LOOK AT IT AT THE END OF THE YEAR, YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU HIT IT OR NOT. SO, UH, CORRECT. YEAH. WE, WE GOT TO PUT A, PUT A TOP ON ALL THIS MM-HMM . SO. ALL RIGHT, COOL. WELL THEN I, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS? I GOT ONE. UM, AND I DON'T THINK WE, HOW YOU SAY WE DON'T DO IT, BUT I DON'T THINK WE DO IT, BUT WE DON'T DO LIKE A REC A RECONCILIATION EVERY SIX MONTHS OR AT THE YEAR. DO WE NEED TO BE DOING THAT FOR THE BUDGET OR? YES. UM, LIKE A, UH, IT'S, IT'S GOOD TO AMEN. BUDGET. WE USED TO COME IN, DO IT EVERY SIX MONTHS KIND OF, RIGHT? YEAH. SIX, SIX MONTHS IS A GOOD MARKER. SOME WILL LOOK AT IT QUARTERLY AND THEY MAY NOT DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT QUARTERLY, BUT THEY MAY JUST REVIEW IT. I MEAN, BEING ABLE TO LOOK AT YOUR BUDGET ACTUAL MONTHLY WILL GIVE YOU A GOOD INDICATOR. AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO REASON TO DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT AT TONS OF TIMES THROUGHOUT THE, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. OH, I AGREE WITH THAT. BUT AT LEAST MID-YEAR TO KIND OF GO, OKAY, LET'S, UH, STRAIGHT THINGS UP BASED ON WHERE WE KNOW WHERE THINGS ARE HEADED AND WHERE WHAT'S HAPPENED SO FAR THIS YEAR. UM, SOME, SOME CITIES WILL WAIT TILL ABOUT THAT 70, 75% MARK TO DO THAT AND THEN CONSIDER IT AGAIN NEAR YEAR END. UM, BUT I MEAN, AS LONG AS YOU'RE MONITORING IT, THAT'S THE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME CITIES WHO DON'T DO ANY BUDGET AMENDMENTS AND THEY, AND THERE'S OTHERS WHO DO 'EM MAYBE MORE OFTEN THAN THEY SHOULD. UH, SO THERE'S NOT ONE WAY TO DO IT, BUT MINIMUM, I WOULD SAY A MIDYEAR, SOMETIMES IN THE MIDDLE, SOMETIME IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR, ONE DURING THE YEAR, AND THEN AGAIN, MAYBE NEAR YEAR END, UH, WHETHER OR NOT YOU NEED TO MAKE ANY LAST MINUTE CHANGES FOR THE YEAR. THANK YOU. UH, OUTTA CURIOSITY, IS THERE A BALLPARK ON, UM, WHEN FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024 WILL POSSIBLY BE AVAILABLE? SO WE, WE STARTED THIS WEEK, UH, WE'VE RECEIVED, UH, THE TRIAL BALANCE IN DETAIL, AND WE WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF MAKING TESTING SELECTIONS AND GETTING THAT GOING. SO OUR, OUR, OUR PLAN IS TO BE ABLE TO GET THE BULK OF THE AUDIT COMPLETED, UH, IN FEBRUARY AND BE ABLE TO ISSUE IN, IN MARCH. UM, BARRING ANY UNFORESEEN ISSUES. UM, SO EITHER DEPENDING ON COUNCIL DATES, EITHER PRESENTING IN MARCH OR WORST CASE PRESENTING IN APRIL, UH, AFTER BEING ISSUED IN MARCH. MM-HMM. YEAH. I, I WAS JUST CURIOUS. 'CAUSE IF MEMORY SERVES ME RIGHT WHEN I FIRST GOT ON THE MANAGEMENT DISTRICT IN 2018, [01:55:01] THE FISCAL YEAR AUDIT CAME ABOUT NINE MONTHS AFTER, AFTER THE FISCAL YEAR ENDED. SO I WAS JUST SEEING YEAH. ARE IN THE TIMEFRAME FOR CITIES IS TO HAVE THAT THERE'S A SIX MONTH WINDOW, SO YOU SHOULD HAVE THAT ISSUED BY THE END OF MARCH IS GOTCHA. IS THE, IS THE TIMEFRAME THAT IS TYPICALLY EXPECTED. UM, OKAY. SO, UH, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA, OUR, OUR PLAN IS TO DO THAT. AND, UH, SO I, AND I DON'T SEE ANY REASON AT THE MOMENT THAT THAT SHOULDN'T OCCUR. GOOD DEAL. ALL RIGHT. SO, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AND I GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND, SO ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASS. THANK YOU ALL. ALRIGHT, WHERE ARE WE AT? ALRIGHT, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE QUARTERLY INVESTMENT REPORT AND FINANCIALS FOR PERIOD ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024. DO I HAVE A MOTION? SHE'S GOT A, OH YEAH, SORRY. SO I AM SO SORRY. WE DO HAVE A ONE PERSON TO TALK. I WAS ON THE OH EIGHT C. CAN YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU WANT ME TO GIVE YOU THE TIME NOW TO COME TALK TAMMY STEVE ARCH THAT I, I'M SORRY I MISSED IT. I AM TAMMY, UM, 51 0 9 CONSA GRANDE. I DID HAVE A LADY, SHE, SHE HAD SENT ME SOME STUFF, BUT THEY JUST SEEM SO BASIC, THE AUDITS. AND I, AND I JUST WANT TO KNOW, LIKE, WHEN, WHEN AN AUDITOR GOES IN THERE, ARE THEY CHECKING TO MAKE SURE EVERY, UM, PURCHASING LAWS, ARE YOU MAKING SURE ALL THE LAWS ARE BEING ADHERED TO STATE LAW? I MEAN, I'M JUST THAT YEAH. WE NEED YOU ON THE MICROPHONE. YEAH, I'M CURIOUS TOO. YEAH. SO WE, WE DON'T TEST EVERY SINGLE TRANSACTION, BUT WE DO LIKE BID REQUIREMENTS TO THE STATE LAW AND WE TEST THAT. SO WE LOOK AT STATE LAW REQUIREMENTS AND THEN WE EVALUATE THE SAMPLE THAT WE PICK, UM, TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THOSE LAWS WERE FOLLOWED. YOU JUST PICK ONE SAMPLE? OH, NO, WE PICK SEVERAL, BUT WE DON'T, WE DON'T LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT EVERY SINGLE TRANSACTION THAT WAS SPENT. BUT YOU CAN HONESTLY SAY FROM THE ONES THAT YOU'VE DONE THAT LIKE, YOU KNOW, OVER $50,000, EVERY ONE OF 'EM WENT WITH STATE LAW. WE DON'T LOOK AT EVERY SINGLE $50,000 ONE. OKAY. BUT WE DO LOOK AT SEVERAL, UH, AND MOST OF THEM ARE USUALLY ASSOCIATED WITH THE SAME CONTRACT. SO THEN WHEN WE LOOK AT ONE, IT CAPTURES SEVERAL IN THAT, IN THAT ONE TRANSACTION. BUT WE, WHETHER OR NOT, OR WHETHER OR NOT THEY'VE GONE OUT FOR BID IS ONE OF OUR TESTING PROCEDURES. ALL RIGHT. I IS TAMMY, IS THAT ALL YOU HAD YOU, THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION YOU HAD. OKAY, COOL. ALL RIGHT. SO, UH, NOW WE ARE [8.D. Consideration and possible action to approve the Quarterly Investment Report & Financials for Period Ending September 30, 2024.] ON, WHERE ARE WE AT EIGHT D, EIGHT D CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE QUARTERLY INVESTMENT REPORT AND FINANCIALS FOR PERIOD ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024. AND I DO NOT HAVE ANYONE TO TALK ON THIS SPECIFIC ONE. IT WAS C UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION WHO TO APPROVE? I GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, FROM COUNCIL MEMBER BRANTLEY AND A MOTION TO SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER SIMPSON. Y'ALL HAVE ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, OR CONCERNS? YEAH. SO THIS WAS THE FINAL FOR THE YEAR, CORRECT? YES, SIR. SO WE ONLY GOT 78% OF OUR BUDGETED SALES TAX. YES, SIR. AND THEN, UH, PROPERTY TAX PRETTY GOOD. WHEN YOU GET 101%, NORMALLY YOU ONLY GET ABOUT 95, 90 6% OF THAT. SO EITHER WE DIDN'T BUDGET ENOUGH OR EVERYBODY ACTUALLY PAID THE MONEY THIS YEAR. WHAT LINEBARGER DOES A VERY GOOD, AND I'M SURE THEY'LL BE HERE AT SOME POINT TO SPEAK ON, THEY, THEY WORK VERY HARD TO COLLECT DELINQUENTS, WHICH THEN 'CAUSE P PENALTY AND INTEREST IS ALSO INCLUDED, UH, IN THAT LINE ITEM. SO THE 101%, UH, THEY'VE ACTUALLY HAD A VERY GOOD COLLECTION RATE. THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN A 99 PERCENTILE BEFORE LIKE THE P AND I COMES IN. SO, SO WHAT IS THE ACTUAL ISSUE WITH OUR SALES TAX SITUATION? SO, I MEAN, THAT'S TWO YEARS IN A ROW THAT WE'VE BUDGETED FOR ONE THING AND WE WERE WAY UNDER BOTH YEARS. SO, SO IS THAT A PLANNING PROBLEM? IS THAT A OUTSIDE ACTIVITY PROBLEM WHERE A BUSINESS SHUT DOWN THAT WE WERE UNEXPECTING OR WHAT, I GUESS WHAT'S THE REASON FOR ONE YEAR IT CAN BE A FLUKE, TWO YEARS BECOMES A TREND. THREE YEARS IS A, IS A, YOU KNOW, A PROBLEM. YEAH. SO, SO SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT. UH, ONE OF THE THINGS TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT THE [02:00:01] MAJORITY OF THE, THE LOSS IN SALES TAXES, UH, REVOLVES AROUND THE, UH, THE THREE 80 AGREEMENTS THAT ARE TIED TO HOME BUILDING. OKAY. UH, SO, UH, WHAT WE HAVE IS THAT WE, WE HAVE A HOME BUILDING COMPANY, UH, THAT WORKS WITH THEIR SUPPLIERS AND THEY RUN THEIR, UH, SALES THROUGH THE CITY OF DICKINSON. UM, KIND OF STARTING WITH IN 2022. AND THAT WAS WHEN THINGS WORK, YOU KNOW, UM, WORKING WITH LEWIS AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRACKING THE TIMELINE OF THE INTEREST RATES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND KIND OF WHEN THE SALES TAXES REALLY STARTED, UH, DIPPING, THE PROBLEM WE RAN INTO WAS THAT WHEN THE SALES TAXES STARTED DIPPING, IT WAS IN THE LATTER PORTIONS OF THE BUDGETED YEAR. SO OUR FORECASTING SITTING AT THE SIX MONTH OF 2022 TO FORECAST 23 WAS LOOKING GOOD, STRONG. UM, SO WHEN THE INITIAL BUDGET WAS APPROVED FOR THE, UH, UH, FOR THE LAST FISCAL YEAR, THEN WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING WAS THAT NEW BUDGETED NUMBER WAS, WAS BASED ON THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF THE PREVIOUS YEAR. AND SO THE, THE CORRECTION, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR EXPENDITURES, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY YOU SEE THE EXPENDITURES, YOU KNOW, CUT, UH, PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY IS THAT BY ABOUT DECEMBER, UH, I SAT WITH STAFF AND SAID, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS THAT WE'RE GONNA TRY TO BUCKLE UP A LITTLE BIT HERE. AND, AND, AND, AND HOPEFULLY THE INTEREST RATES WILL COME BACK. THEY JUST NEVER HAVE. AND SO WHAT YOU SEE IN THIS BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR, UH, AND I'LL LET MAYBE SARAH SPEAK TO IT IN OUR CURRENT BUDGET, ARE WE TRENDING, UH, IN LINE WITH, WITH OUR SALES TAXES THAT WE ARE PROJECTING RIGHT NOW? WE'RE SLIGHTLY UNDER, I THINK WE'RE AT, UM, EIGHT 20% INSTEAD OF 25. MM-HMM . BUT IT'S, WELL, AND I THINK THIS MAINLY THE REASON WHY, I GUESS I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT IS WE'RE THAT'S, WE KNOW THAT THAT'S BEEN TRENDING A CERTAIN WAY. WE KNOW THE ECONOMIC SITUATION THE COUNTRY IS IN AND THE, UH, HOUSING MARKET IS IN, I MEAN, WE'RE DOWN 15% FROM 2122, UM, IN HOUSING. SO WE NEED TO THEN REEVALUATE HOW WE SPEND BECAUSE WE KNOW OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE TOO HIGH. MM-HMM . RIGHT? MM-HMM . SO THIS IS, I GUESS GOES BACK TO MARK MARK'S POINT OF HAVING THAT AMENDED BUDGET MM-HMM. ITEM MM-HMM . TO WHERE WE'RE EVALUATING, OKAY, WE'RE NOT GETTING AS MUCH MONEY 'CAUSE WE'RE STILL SPENDING LIKE DRUNKEN SAILORS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WHAT ADMINISTRATION WAS 119% OVER ON EXPENDITURES. SO OUR REVENUE'S DOWN, BUT OUR EXPENDITURES ARE UP. THAT'S AN ISSUE FOR ANY ORGANIZATION, NO QUESTIONS ASKED. SO THAT'S WHY I SAY WE NEED THESE REPORT, WE NEED TO KNOW THESE THINGS BEFOREHAND MM-HMM . AND FIX 'EM BEFORE THEY BECOME AN ISSUE, I GUESS. SO. UNDERSTOOD, MAYOR. AND I'D ALSO ADD, UM, SOME OF IT IS ABRUPT, UH, PARTICULARLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE THREE EIGHTIES. UH, ONE OF THE EXAMPLES, 'CAUSE THE MANAGEMENT DISTRICT HAS A LOT OF THE CONTRACTS FOR THE THREE EIGHTIES. UH, SOME OF THEM THE BUSINESSES OPTED TO NOT RENEW. YEP. OTHERS, THE COMPTROLLER CAME IN AND DECIDED THAT'S NOT A VIABLE SALES TAX OPTION AND I NEED MONEY BACK. YEAH. UM, AND SO SOME OF THOSE KIND OF CAME ONE OF THOSE, YEAH. ONE OF THOSE, I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN'T CONTROL, BUT THE ONE THING WE CAN CONTROL IS EXPENDITURES. BUT ONE OF 'EM DID POP US. I AGREE. I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW, SOME OF IT WAS SUDDEN, LIKE WE JUST GOT LETTERS WITH INVOICES. ONE POPPED US FOR $2 MILLION AND OH WOW. NO LONGER HAVE THAT THREE 80 AGREEMENT. 'CAUSE WE GOT IN TROUBLE WITH THEM. WHAT TWICE? OH YEAH. WELL, THE, WELL, WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING, AND, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH NIM RIGHT NOW A LITTLE BIT TO FIGURE OUT, UM, WHAT TO DO WITH THE, WITH THAT SITUATION WITH OUR ROCK, BUT OUR ROCK JUST, UH, THE AUDITORS KIND OF SHOWED UP AND SAID, GIVE US ALL THIS MONEY BACK. AND THEN SIMULTANEOUSLY OUR ROCK THEN ENDED THE AGREEMENT. SO NOW THERE'S ALL THIS BACK, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY PAYING BACK FOR SEVERAL YEARS OF SALES TAXES WHILE ALSO NOT RECEIVING THE NEW SALES TAXES FROM OUR TRUCK. AND IT ALL HIT KIND OF LIKE ALL IN A MATTER OF WEEKS. RIGHT. BUT TO YOUR POINT ON LIKE AN ADMINISTRATION, THE 119, THE 2 54, WE MADE A HIRE IN DECEMBER. OKAY. AND WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T GO INTO BUDGET AND CUT IT ANYWHERE. WE JUST ADDED THAT MM-HMM . WE ADDED A $300, $300,000 WORTH OF SALARIES AND WE WENT ON ABOUT OUR BUSINESS AND WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T DO DUE DILIGENCE. SO, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. WE, WE MAKE DEALS THAT WHETHER WE VOTE FOR 'EM OR NOT, IT DON'T MATTER. YEP. IT CAME FROM THIS TABLE. AND WHEN WE MAKE HIRES AND WE DO THINGS AND WE DON'T ADJUST THE BUDGET, THAT'S HOW YOU GET THAT 119% ON ADMINISTRATION BECAUSE WE HIRE PEOPLE AND WE DIDN'T MOVE MONEY AROUND IN THE BUDGET TO PAY FOR IT. YEAH. SO NORMALLY, YEAH. TO WHERE LEWIS WOULD COME AND SARAH WOULD COME IN AND SAY, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF ONE'S HIGHER, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR WANNA LOOK INTO IT? BUT ALSO AT THE SAME TIME, IF SOMETHING IS COMING IN UNDER BUDGET, YOU CAN SHIFT THE FUNDING, UH, TO THE, [02:05:01] TO THE RIGHT LINE ITEM. SO THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN BE A LOT MORE REACTIVE TO. AND I KNOW THAT FINANCE WILL BE PROVIDING THAT, THAT MONTHLY CHECK FOR YOU GUYS SO THAT WE ALL WILL BE ABLE TO BE MORE REACTIVE TO IT A LOT SOONER. AND THEN, THEN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR, THAT'S CORRECTED BECAUSE THAT MONEY'S BEEN, THAT MONEY'S BEEN PUT INTO THE ADMINISTRATION TO ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENDITURE TO PAY FOR THOSE SALARIES THAT WEREN'T IN IT LAST YEAR. MM-HMM . MM-HMM . OKAY. I GOT A QUESTION ON THESE KIDS. YES, SIR. BUT I KNOW, I KNOW THE FIRST ONE WAS STREET PHONE WAS DOWN, BUT THAT'S DOWN BECAUSE OF THE SALES TAX. YES, SIR. UH, I QUESTION ON THE, UH, SALARIES AND BENEFITS. WE WERE ONLY 84. ARE WE SHORT? WERE WE DOWN EMPLOYEES? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT IN THE, IN THE PUBLIC WORKS? I THINK THAT YES, YES. STREET MAINTENANCE. YES. 4%. YEAH. SO WERE SHORT SOME YES. STAFF. CORRECT. YEAH. YEAH. THERE WERE SOME STAFF, UH, THAT WE WERE, UH, WE WERE STILL TRYING TO FILL OUT THE STAFF AT THAT TIME. YES, SIR. I THOUGHT SO. AND LET'S SEE. YEAH. DID YOU SAY YOU HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE PIS, SIR? YEAH, I WAS GOING DOWN THE LIST AND I'M NOT PICKING ON THE ANIMAL SHELTER TONIGHT. I DO THAT ENOUGH. UH, PI ONE. YES, SIR. WE CAME IN, UH, PILLARS AND ENTRIES. WE WERE LIKE 955% AND THEN THE ASSESSMENTS WERE 137% DEVELOPER REIMBURSEMENT 141. WHEN WE BRING MORE MONEY IN, ARE WE GIVING IT TO 'EM TO GO AHEAD AND PAY THE PIT OFF OR, UH, NO. SO THE WAY IT WORKS IS, IS THAT IF WE JUST BRING MORE IN, THEY GET MORE. OH. SO WHAT HAPPENS IS, IS THAT, SO THERE'S A SKETCH. SO THE WAY THE PI WORKS IS VERY MUCH LIKE A, IT'S A LOT CLOSER TO YOUR 30 YEAR MORTGAGE, RIGHT? UH, THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THEY KIND OF BRING IN EACH YEAR. SOMETIMES THEY, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE ARE A COUPLE YEARS BEHIND ON THEIR ASSESSMENTS. UH, BUT SOME, BUT MOST PEOPLE PAY 'EM, UH, WE CAN'T DISBURSE ANY MONEY THAT'S NOT REQUESTED BY THE, UH, DEVELOPER. SO IF, LET'S SAY IT BRINGS IN, IN A GIVEN YEAR A, A FIXED AMOUNT OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, BUT THE ONLY REQUEST 95,000 OF IT, WE CAN'T WRITE THEM A CHECK FOR A HUNDRED. WE HAVE TO WRITE IT FOR WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING. SO SOME OF THESE ARE GONNA CARRY SOME BALANCES UNTIL THEY COME AND REQUEST IT, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR THEM TO RECEIVE THE FUNDING. UH, IT ALSO, WE HAVE A PIT ADMINISTRATOR, THE, UH, ASSESSMENTS OF THE SOUTHWEST. SO WHAT HAPPENS IS, IS THE, UM, THE DEVELOPER WILL SAY, HEY, I WANT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. UH, THAT PIT ADMINISTRATOR HAS TO, UM, UH, IS BASICALLY GONNA LOOK IT OVER, MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS AVAILABLE, UH, THAT EACH ONE OF THOSE LOTS THAT PAID THEIR ASSESSMENT IS CREDITED FOR WHAT THEY'VE PAID TO, TO THE CITY, YOU KNOW, AS WELL. SO THAT THOSE PEOPLE AREN'T PAYING FOREVER AND EVER. UM, AND SO THAT'S USUALLY HOW THE DISBURSEMENT GO, OR THAT'S HOW THE DISBURSEMENT WILL ALWAYS GO, IS THAT THERE'S GONNA BE THAT THIRD PARTY THAT'S GONNA KIND OF BE BETWEEN THE CITY. THEY WORK FOR THE CITY, BUT IT IS, BUT THEY'RE THE ONES THAT'S KIND OF VETTING AND SAYING, YES, YOU, THERE WAS A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. YOU'RE REQUESTING $100,000 HERE. AND THEN ONCE WE GET THE GREEN LIGHT, WE WRITE A CHECK FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND. SO THAT'S WHY YOU MAY SEE A CARRYING FUND BALANCE. THEY HAVEN'T REQUESTED THAT MONEY YET. NOW THE BIO PID ONE WAS THE VERY FIRST ONE. YES, SIR. AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT'S 20 YEARS, SO IT'S ABOUT TO, IT'S ALMOST OVER. IT'S ALMOST OVER. AND THAT ONE GOES OFF THE BOOKS PERIOD. YES, SIR. YES. SO WET BE, THERE'S NOT A MUD, IT'S A, IT HAD A DEFINITE LIFE PERIOD. YES, SIR. ABOUT 20 YEARS. YES, SIR. AND, UH, JUST SO YOU KNOW, IS THAT, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE PIT AGREEMENT, THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY, UH, THAT, THAT THE DEVELOPER CAN, CAN BE REIMBURSED IN THAT SCENARIO. SO EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE PAY OFF THEIR ASSESSMENTS AND THEY'RE NOT PAYING THEM ANYMORE UNTIL THE DEVELOPER ACTUALLY REQUESTS THAT MONEY FROM THE CITY, WE'RE JUST, IT IS JUST GONNA BE SITTING IN ESCROW BASICALLY FOR THEM TO, TO COLLECT IT. 'CAUSE I HAD TO ABOUT THE SAME THING ON PIT THREE. YES, SIR. AND THEN, UH, THE ONE OTHER QUESTION I HAD GOING THROUGH THIS LAST NIGHT WAS IN THE SPECIAL, AND SORRY IF YOU HAD ANOTHER QUESTION, BUT THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUND, YOU HAVE MISCELLANEOUS GRANTS ON BOTH REVENUE AND EXPENDITURES. UM, SO THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING ABOUT IS THERE'S A VERY LARGE DIFFERENCE IN THE BUDGETED ITEM COMPARED TO THE ACTUAL ITEM. SO WHY, I GUESS, I GUESS WHAT'S THE REASON FOR THAT LARGE DISPARITY? UM, SO SOME OF IT IS, IS [02:10:01] THAT IN BUDGETING FOR SOME OF THESE THINGS YOU HAVE TO ANTICIPATE WHEN YOU THINK YOU'LL BE STARTING A PROJECT. THE PROJECT IN QUESTION HERE WOULD BE THE HUGHES ROAD PROJECT. WE REALLY DID. WE THOUGHT WE WOULD BE, UH, WE WEREN'T SURE IF WE WERE GONNA BE IN THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE IN THE, IN 2024. UM, WE WERE NOT, WE WERE STILL WORKING THROUGH SOME ACQUISITIONS. WE WERE WORKING THROUGH PIPELINE RELOCATIONS THROUGH THE YEAR OF 24 THAT KIND OF PUSHED BACK THE CONSTRUCTION. 'CAUSE CONSTRUCTION'S THE $36 MILLION, UH, BEAST THERE. UH, SO WE HAD KIND OF STARTED BUDGETING AND SAYING, OKAY, WE SHOULD BE GETTING SOME GRANT REVENUE AND WE SHOULD BE EXPENDING THAT GRANT REVENUE. AND SO WHEN THAT GETS THE, WHENEVER THOSE DON'T COME THROUGH, THEY'RE NOT GONNA REIMBURSE SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T SPEND TOWARD THOSE TYPE OF PROJECTS. SO YOU'RE KIND OF TRYING TO GAUGE HOW FAR INTO A PROJECT YOU'RE GONNA BE WHEN YOU'RE DOING A LOT OF THAT GRANT ADMINISTRATION AND FUNDING AND SO FORTH. SO, AND I THINK THE, THE MAIN REASON WHY I'M ASKING THESE QUESTIONS IS WHEN IT GETS TO OUR BUDGET PLANNING IN THE FUTURE. UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT I DO ONCE AGAIN WITH ALL MY CLIENTS IS WE DON'T PLAN FOR THE BEST SCENARIO OR EVEN A GOOD SCENARIO. WE PLAN FOR PROBABLY THE WORST SCENARIO. AND THEN IF THE BEST SCENARIO WORKS OUT, THEN WE'RE GOOD, RIGHT? MM-HMM . MM-HMM . UM, SO I DON'T WANT TO START BEING TOO OPTIMISTIC WITH OUR FUTURE BUDGETS IF WE HAVE BIG DISPARITIES ON WHAT IT ACTUAL HAPPENS MM-HMM . AND WHAT SURE. UNDERSTAND WE'RE PLANNING TO HAPPEN. UM, 'CAUSE THAT JUST LOOKS THAT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE'RE, UH, WE'RE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE OF DOING OUR RESEARCH ON WHAT EXPECTATIONS ARE. MM-HMM . MM-HMM . SO. OKAY. OTHER THAN THAT, I HAVE NOTHING ELSE. ANYONE ELSE? QUESTIONS? I GOT ONE MORE. YEP. AND I'VE ASKED IT EVERY QUARTER. SO WE'RE AT 417% ON LIBRARY REPAIRS, BUT WE SHOULD BE DONE, CORRECT? YES, SIR. SO THIS THE LAST TIME WE SHOULD SEE THAT HOPEFULLY UNTIL THE NEXT SLAB CRACKS. YES. SO THIS SLAB CRACK WILL BE DONE JUST THE NEXT SLAB CRACK. WE'LL LOOK AT IT AGAIN. , I HOPE NOT. , WHEN THAT OAK TREE SPROUTS AGAIN AND THE SUMMER, DON'T RAIN FOR THREE MONTHS. ALL RIGHT. SO, UH, YOU GOT SOMETHING ELSE? YEAH, I HAVE A COUPLE THINGS. UM, ONE THING I WILL SPEAK TO, WE TALKED ABOUT THE THREE 80 AGREEMENTS, AND I KNOW THAT, UH, UH, ESPECIALLY WITH THE EDC, THERE HAS BEEN A FOCUS ON, ONE THING WE HAVEN'T TRADITIONALLY DONE WELL IS MAINTAIN MA MAINTENANCE OF THOSE AGREEMENTS. MM-HMM . UM, AND I KNOW THAT, UH, OUR EDC DIRECTOR IS WORKING HARD TO, UH, KIND OF LOOK AT THAT AND, UH, AND, AND TALK TO THE FOLKS THAT WE HAVE THREE 80 AGREEMENTS, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, SEND TO THE PAST. YOU CAN'T GO BACK AND FIX. RIGHT. BUT WE NEED TO HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS. UM, SO, AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT STRATEGY THERE. I ALSO WANTED TO, UM, POINT OUT, YOU, TRAVIS, YOU'D MENTIONED SOMETHING. YOU KNOW, THE REALITY OF IT IS, IS THAT WHEN YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT OUR REVENUE TRENDS, WHEN IT COMES TO SALES TAX, UH, IN 20 AND 21, OR EXCUSE ME, UH, YEAH. 20 21, 21, 22 IS WHERE WE SAW THE BALANCE. SO OUR AVERAGE REVENUE OVER AN EIGHT YEAR PERIOD AND SALES TAX ALONE IS 8 MILLION BUCKS. UH MM-HMM . AND THAT'S A VERY CLEAR PICTURE. WE HAD A, A DISTINCT BUMP IN 20 20, 20, 21, 21, 22. A LOT OF THAT WAS BECAUSE WE KIND OF FORCED EVERYBODY TO SHOP LOCAL BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T LEAVE THEIR HOUSE. UM MM-HMM . AND SO, UH, I, I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING TO, TO REMEMBER. UM, WE DO HAVE SOME THREE 80 ISSUES, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE MADE SOME MISTAKES WITH THOSE AGREEMENTS, UM, UH, SPECIFICALLY WITH OUR TRUCK, LIKE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MM-HMM . UM, YOU KNOW, BUT, UH, I, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ENTIRE TREND, UH, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A DIRE SITUATION. IT'S A MATTER OF MANAGING THAT EXPENDITURE AGAINST YOUR REVENUE. BECAUSE OUR, OUR REVENUE OVER THE EIGHT YEAR PERIOD, AND, AND I SAY YEARS BECAUSE I WENT BACK AND PULLED EVERY BUDGET THAT WE, THAT I COULD ACCESS ONLINE, WHICH WAS EIGHT YEARS. AND WHEN YOU TREND IT ALL, UH, THE REVENUE IS THERE. WHAT WE HAVE TO MANAGE IS THAT REVENUE VERSUS EXPENDITURE. MM-HMM . AND I THINK THAT GOES TO SAME THING. WE CONTROL WHAT WE CAN CONTROL AND WE, WE DON'T CONTROL WHAT WE CAN'T CONTROL. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT REVENUE, I CAN'T CONTROL HOW MUCH REVENUE COMES IN THE CITY. WE'RE A CITY, RIGHT? MM-HMM . WE CAN'T ACTUALLY PRODUCE ANYTHING THAT PRODUCES US MORE REVENUE. UM, BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS CONTROL EXPENDITURES. SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING WHEN, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS, WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE A LITTLE BIT LESS, A LITTLE BIT MORE PESSIMISTIC WITH OUR, UH, EXPECTATIONS OF REVENUE. MM-HMM . BECAUSE, UH, EXPENDITURES ARE THE ONE THINGS WE CAN ABSOLUTELY CONTROL. MM-HMM . ALRIGHT. [02:15:02] WHAT ELSE WE GOT? ALRIGHT, WELL, I GOT A MOTION. I GOT A SECOND. UH, LET'S GET A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSED. ALRIGHT, NOW EIGHT E [8.E. Conduct a public hearing concerning a request for a Conditional Use Permit for a Place of Public Assembly "Church" in the Mixed Use ("MU") Zoning District, for approx. 0.8471 acres located at 303 E FM 517, SUITE 309 and legally described as ABST 19 PERRY & AUSTIN SUR PT OF LOT 138 (2-3) DICKINSON ADDN D AKA PT OF TRACT B. ] CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING CONCERNING A REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A PUBLIC FOR A PLACE OF PUBLIC ASSEMBLY CHURCH IN THE MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICT FOR APPROXIMATELY 0.8471 ACRES LOCATED AT 3 0 3 EAST FM FIVE 17, SUITE 3 0 9, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS, UH, ABSTRACT 19 PERRY IN AUSTIN. SIR PLOT, UH, SIR, POINT OF LOT, 1 38, 2 DASH THREE DICKINSON EDITION, DAKA POINT OF TRACK B STAFF PRESENTATION. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNSEL. UH, YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REPORT FOR THIS. UH, SOME ITEMS OF NOTE. UH, THIS IS AN APPROXIMATELY 2025 SQUARE FOOT LEASE SPACE. APPLICANTS ARE REQUESTING, UH, OBVIOUSLY A CHURCH WITH A MEMBERSHIP. THEY STATE AS 65 ADULTS AND APPROXIMATELY 25 CHILDREN. UM, THE OCCUPANT LOAD FOR THIS BUILDING, WE HAVE DETERMINED TO BE 114, SO WELL UNDER THE OCCUPANT LOAD. UH, AS PER THE UDC, UH, THEY REQUIRED PARKING ONE PER FOUR SEATS, SO THAT IS A TOTAL OF 17. UH, THEY HAVE 25 PROVIDED, SO MORE THAN ADEQUATE PARKING. UH, THEY COMPLIED WITH THE ONE HANDICAP SPACE. AND, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL ON THE CONDITION OF PROVIDING A SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT. UH, AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE NOT INITIATED THAT IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE LEASE. I WOULD, THE APPLICANT IS HERE TONIGHT FOR PRESENTATION, BUT I WOULD, UH, ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. WHERE IS THIS? THIS IS THE, IS THIS THE CHURCH THAT'S ALREADY THERE OR IS THIS BEHIND THE CAR RENTAL PLACE? THIS IS LOCATED IN THAT, IN THAT STRIP CENTER BEHIND THE ENTERPRISE RENTAL CAR. YES, SIR. IF YOU'RE FACING THE BUILDING, IT'S THE LEASE SPACE, UH, ON THE RIGHT SIDE CORNER. SO TENANTS, UM, FOR THAT BUILDING AT THIS TIME, ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, THERE'S A DOCTOR'S OFFICE, UH, PEDIATRIC CARE, UH, THAT HAS GONE IN RECENTLY. AND IN THE MIDDLE, THERE'S ESSENTIALLY A LEASE SPACE WITHIN LEASE SPACES. UH, SO I BELIEVE IT HAS, UH, SOME GENERAL CONTRACTORS AND SOME HEALTH AND WELLNESS, UH, BUSINESSES IN THAT LOCATION. SO THE, THE AGREEMENT FOR THE SHARED PARKING IS, IS FROM THE BUILDING OWNER. IT, IT WOULD BE BETWEEN THE BUILDING OWNER AND THE LEASE C. OKAY. BUILDING OWNER, YOU KNOW, LEASES OUT ALL FOUR LEASE SPACES. UM, IS IT, IS THE PARKING ADEQUATE WHEN ALL FOUR LEASE SPACES ARE OCCUPIED? YES. UM, PER THE USE THERE IS ADEQUATE PARKING. UH, WE ALSO DO NOT ANTICIPATE AT THIS TIME THAT THE CHURCH WILL BE OPERATING DURING TYPICAL BUSINESS HOURS. I BELIEVE THEY HAVE ONE WEDNESDAY SERVICE EVENING AND OBVIOUSLY A SUNDAY SERVICE. SO THE, THE OTHER LEASE SPACES BEING ESSENTIALLY RETAIL AND A DOCTOR'S OFFICE, WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE MUCH OVERLAP, UM, IN THE REQUIRED PARKING. AND SO IT'S IN THE SAME STRIP AS THE MELISSA T-SHIRT QUILTS, RIGHT? IT IS, IT IS MELISSA'S, IT'S A SPACE. IT IS THAT, IT IS THAT SPACE, YEP. OKAY. RIGHT. I DIDN'T KNOW MELISSA LEFT. ALRIGHT. UH, ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING FOR, WILL IT REQUIRE BUILD OUT INSIDE? UH, NO APPLICANT'S THAT THE EXISTING, UH, LAYOUT WILL CONTINUE TO EXIST. ALL RIGHT. WELL, UM, APPLICANT PRESENTATION, WE WANT TO GET INTO THAT OR ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR, UH, MR. MOORE? ALL RIGHT, WELL, MAY WE HAVE TO CALL YOU UP? YOU DON'T KNOW. FAIR. ALRIGHT, SO LET'S GET THE, UH, APPLICANT PRESENTATION. HELLO, UH, MY NAME IS EUREKA FONTANO AND I AM A MEMBER OF TEGA BETA GLORY INTERNATIONAL WORSHIP MINISTRIES. AND I'M HERE TO GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. NEXT SLIDE. UM, TODAY'S PRESENTATION, THE MAIN TOPICS WILL CONSIST OF THE COMMUNITY IMPACT [02:20:01] THROUGH FAITH-BASED INITIATIVES, YOUTH AND FAMILY ENGAGEMENT, EMPOWERING THE COMMUNITY WITH DEPARTMENTAL SERVICES. NEXT SLIDE. UH, OUR PASTOR IS DR. APOSTLE SHIRLEY BROWN. UM, AND THIS IS HER BIOGRAPHY. I WON'T BORE YOU WITH READING THROUGH EVERYTHING, BUT SHE HAS BEEN IN MINISTRY. UH, THIS MINISTRY HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE SINCE 2008. WE'RE ORIGINALLY FROM LAMAR. UH, AND AFTER THE COVID AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WE'VE BEEN DISPLACED. SO WE'RE JUST STARTING GETTING A NEW PHYSICAL LOCATION. WE WENT VIRTUAL FOR MANY YEARS AFTER, DURING THE C TIME, AND NOW WE'RE REESTABLISHING HERE IN DICKINSON WITH YOUR GUYS' APPROVAL . SO I WON'T, I MEAN, SHE'S BEEN IN MINISTRY AND HAS A HEART FOR WOMEN AND WE HAVE A HEART FOR CHILDREN. SO THOSE ARE OUR MAIN, UH, TARGET AREAS, BUT WE ARE HEALING AND DELIVERANCE MINISTRY. SO, UM, AS BROTHER JESSE WAS, UH, UH, MR. BRANTLEY OR COUNCIL MEMBER BRANTLEY WAS SPEAKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BEING THE CHANGED PERSON, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE AREA WE'RE LOOKING FOR. THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING IN THE PAST AND SHOWING THEM A WAY, A PATHWAY TO HEALING AND DELIVERANCE, UM, VICTORY THROUGH CHRIST. SO NEXT SLIDE. UH, WHAT DOES IT TRULY MEAN TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF THOSE AROUND US? UM, THAT'S WHAT OUR DESIRE IS. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF HURTING PEOPLE, A LOT OF ISSUES, A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITIES. AND WE WANNA BE A SAFE HAVEN. WE WANNA BE A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME AND GET THE HELP THAT THEY NEED TO LIVE VICTORIOUS LIVES. COMMUNITY OUTREACH. UM, IN THE PAST WE'VE DONE SEVERAL THINGS. WE'VE, UM, USED TO DO THE EASTER EGG HUNT IN LAMAR, TEXAS. WE DID THAT FOR MANY YEARS. UH, A COMMUNITY EVENT WHERE WE PARTNER WITH OTHER CHURCHES IN THE COMMUNITY TO, UM, HAVE JUST THE FUN TIME FOR THE PEOPLE DURING THE EASTER TIME. UH, WE'VE DONE PRAYER SERVICES IN THE, UH, CAR, UH, CARVER PARK IN THE PAST. UM, WE DO FOOD DRIVES, DO PRAYERS, UM, JUST PARTNER WITH THE COMMUNITY WITH THE CITY. WE'D LIKE TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO HELP ADDRESS SOME OF THE COMMUNITY ISSUES THAT YOU MAY HAVE AND WANT TO WORK TO HELP BE A PART OF THAT. WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING. UH, WE HAVE A YOUTH MINISTRY AND THAT'S THE AREA THAT I WORK IN, IS IN THE YOUTH MINISTRY. UH, WE HAVE THE YOUNGER CHILDREN WHERE WE DO HAVE THE SEPARATE SPACE WHERE WE, UH, TEACH THEM AT THEIR LEVEL, TRYING TO PREPARE THEM TO HAVE THEIR OWN FOUNDATION SO THAT THEY CAN BE PREPARED FOR ALL THE CHALLENGES THAT OUR YOUTH ARE CURRENTLY FACING RIGHT NOW. UM, TRY TO DO THINGS TO HELP PREPARE THEM FOR COLLEGE OR PREPARE THEM FOR WHEREVER IT IS THAT THEY LIKE TO GO AFTER HIGH SCHOOL. AND THEN MAINLY WORKING WITH OUR YOUNG, YOUNGER CHILDREN, GIVING THEM OPPORTUNITIES. ON FOURTH SUNDAY IS OUR YOUTH SUNDAY. SO THEREFORE WE ARE TEACHING THEM LEADERSHIP. THEY LEAD THE WORSHIP EXPERIENCE ON FOURTH SUNDAY. UM, AND SOME OF THEM PRAY, SOME OF 'EM READ. SOME OF 'EM EVEN HAVE PREACHER CAM THAT'S GETTING READY TO GO OFF TO COLLEGE. , UM, YOU KNOW, THEY SING, UM, DANCE. SO, UM, AND THEN OF COURSE ANY OPPORTUNITIES THEY GET TO GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND SERVE ALSO. SO STOP THE VIOLENCE MY BROTHER'S KEEPER COLLABORATION WITH STOP THE VIOLENCE FOR, FOR NINE. UM, WE HAVE OUR MEN'S MINISTRY THAT, UM, AND YOUNG ADULTS THAT WE'VE PARTNERED WITH THEM AND DID EVENTS WHERE THEY CAME OUT AND JUST TRY TO TEACH KIDS ABOUT, TEACH PEOPLE ABOUT VIOLENCE. WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN DELIVERED FROM VARIOUS ADDICTIONS AND OTHER LIFE ISSUES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT HAVE TURNED THEIR LIVES OVER TO CHRIST THAT WANT TO BE ABLE TO GIVE BACK AND DO THINGS TO TRY TO PREVENT OUR YOUNG PEOPLE FROM GOING IN A PATHWAY THAT MIGHT LEAD THEM TO DESTRUCTION. SO TRY TO DO PREVENTATIVE THINGS, UH, IN THE COMMUNITY TO, UH, HELP WITH THAT. TOYS FOR TOTS. UM, WE'VE COLLABORATED WITH TOYS FOR TODDS SEVERAL YEARS IN THE PAST WHERE WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO BE A PLACE WHERE THE INDIVIDUALS CAN COME AND SIGN UP FOR THE TOYS AND WE GO AND GET 'EM AND DISTRIBUTE 'EM OUT TO THE INDIVIDUALS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT MAY NEED THOSE TOYS. UM, LET'S SEE, PROM DRIVE EMPOWERING OUR YOUTH. UH, WE'VE HAD, WE HAVE RAW JEWELS, WHICH IS THE YOUNG WOMEN, UM, YOUNG WOMEN'S MINISTRY WHERE WE'VE HELPED THEM PREPARE, UM, DOING, UH, CONFERENCES AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE THEY, AND THEN ALSO THEY'VE DONE OUTREACH WHERE THEY'VE PREPARED YOUNG LADIES THAT NEEDED HELP GETTING READY FOR [02:25:01] PROM. SO, AND NOW THESE THREE REMAIN FAITH, HOPE AND LOVE, BUT THE GREATEST OF THESE IS LOVE. AND THAT'S WHAT WE, WE LIKE TO DO. JUST LIKE THE PLACE TO ASSEMBLE AND BE ABLE TO SHARE THE LOVE OF JESUS CHRIST IN THIS COMMUNITY. AND I GUESS THESE ARE PHOTOS OF HOW THE, UH, CURRENT LOCATION IS LAID OUT. THE BACK AREA TO THE SIDE, THAT'S WHERE WE WORKSHOP WITH THE CHILDREN. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE FRONT SPACES FOR THE ADULTS QUESTIONS. OH, IS THAT IT? OH, SWEET. NO. UH, SO NO. UH, SO WHERE ARE Y'ALL CURRENTLY LOCATED AT? I WAS, I HAVE QUESTIONS. SO, UM, WELL CURRENTLY WE'RE WORSHIPING AT THE HOLIDAY INN, BUT THIS IS UNTIL WE'RE THE HOLIDAY INN IN TEXAS CITY. AND SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT THAT, THOSE PICTURES WERE. OH, NO, NO, NO. THOSE PICTURES ARE THE LOCATION HERE IN DICKINSON NINE. THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL ARE? YES. OKAY. WE WE'RE SET UP TO WORSHIP THERE, BUT WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND GET THE APPROVAL. GOTCHA, GOTCHA, GOTCHA. NO, NO, NO, YOU'RE GOOD. OKAY. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PRESENTATION BEFORE WE GET INTO YOU? STATE THAT, UH, THE SERVICES ARE SUNDAYS AND WEDNESDAYS. YES, SIR. ON WEDNESDAY NIGHTS WE HAVE EMPOWERMENT HOUR AT SEVEN O'CLOCK. UH, WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING IT ON THE PHONE RIGHT NOW, UH, BUT WE DESIRE TO MEET FACE TO FACE AGAIN. AND THEN OUR WORSHIP SERVICES ARE ON SUNDAY MORNINGS AT 10 30, 10:00 AM FOR PRAYER. AND THEN 10 30 FOR THE WORSHIP SERVICE. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS 'CAUSE YOU WERE THE ONE, ONLY ONE THAT SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. OH, LUCKY . SO WE ALSO DON'T HAVE AN, UH, APPLICANT REBUTTAL. UM, SO I WILL ADJOURN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS IF I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER, UH, QUESTIONS. AND THAT WILL BE AT 8 27. SO, UH, AND WE DON'T, WE PROBABLY MOST LIKELY SHOULDN'T NEED YOU ANYMORE, BUT WE MIGHT CALL YOU BACK UP. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. EIGHT [8.F. ORDINANCE XXXX-2025 Consideration and possible action concerning making a recommendation on a Conditional Use Permit for a Place of Public Assembly "Church" in the Mixed Use ("MU") Zoning District, for approx. 0.8471 acres located at 303 E FM 517, SUITE 309 and legally described as ABST 19 PERRY & AUSTIN SUR PT OF LOT 138 (2-3) DICKINSON ADDN D AKA PT OF TRACT B. (FIRST READING) ] F CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION. CONSIDERING MAKING A RECOMMENDATION ON A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A PLACE OF PUBLIC ASSEMBLY CHURCH IN THE MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICT FOR APPROXIMATELY 0.8471 ACRES LOCATED AT 3 0 3 EAST FM FIVE 17, SUITE 3 0 9, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS ABSTRACT 19 PERRY IN AUSTIN, SIR, POINT OF LOT, 1 38, 2 DASH THREE DICKINSON, ADDITION DAKA POINT OF TRACK B, FIRST READING, MOVE TO APPROVE WITH THE COMMISSION, RECOMMENDATIONS FROM PLANNING AND ZONING OF GETTING A PER A SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER. SO I GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCIL MEMBER SIMPSON WITH, UH, SECOND THE CONDITIONAL, UH, WHAT'D YOU CALL IT? AGREEMENT? UH, YEAH, IT SAYS PROVIDE SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT. SHARED PARKING AGREEMENT. OKAY. AND THEN I GOT A SECOND FROM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER . UH, DO WE HAVE ANY MORE DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSED. ALL RIGHT. EIGHT [8.G. Consideration and possible action to approve an ordinance of the City of Dickinson, Texas, to amend Chapter 2, Administration, of the City of Dickinson Code of Ordinances, by amending section 2-57, entitled “Complaints Against Officers” and section 2-59, entitled “interpretation of content”; providing a severability clause, a repealer clause, and an effective date.] G CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF DICKINSON, TEXAS TO AMEND CHAPTER TWO, ADMINISTRATION OF THE CITY OF DICKINSON, CODE OF ORDINANCE BY AMENDING SECTION TWO DASH 57 ENTITLED COMPLAINTS AGAINST OFFICERS AND SECTION TWO DASH 59 ENTITLED INTERPRETATION OF CONTENT, PROVIDING A SEVERE ABILITY CLAUSE, A REPEAL CLAUSE, AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. UM, I DO HAVE ONE, UH, PERSON TO TALK ON THIS SUBJECT AND IT IS TAMMY STEAM. MY NAME'S TAMMY. AND IT MUST HAVE BEEN IMPORTANT 'CAUSE I DID NOT PLAN ON BEING HERE THIS LONG. HOWEVER, I DON'T LIKE HAVING THREE LITTLE MINUTES AND HAVING TO MOVE ALONG AND NOT GET TO DISCUSSION. SO I FIGURED I'D WAIT IT OUT TONIGHT. THIS BY FAR, THIS ORDINANCE RIGHT HERE HAS, I KNOW THIS DAMN ORDINANCE WORD FOR WORD. WHAT'S I'M, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, DO WE EVEN GIVE THIS TO COUNCIL AND BOARD MEMBERS OR ANYTHING? I HAVE A SWORN AFFIDAVIT. I'VE HAD IT FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS. YOU KNOW WHY I'VE NEVER FILLED THIS THING OUT? 'CAUSE YOU HAVE TO TRUST, YOU HAVE TO TRUST THE PEOPLE THAT ARE RUNNING THE THING. THAT THEY'LL ACTUALLY TAKE A, AN COMPLAINT, ETHICS COMPLAINT SERIOUS IN THAT THING. IT SAYS, AND I DON'T, I HAVE EVERYTHING BUT IT, [02:30:01] BUT IT SAYS THAT Y'ALL WANNA ADD, WHICH I FOR ONE, DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD TAKE THIS OUT BECAUSE IT TELLS YOU WHAT TO DO. AND I THINK MAKE IT AS SIMPLE AS YOU CAN. 'CAUSE IT'S GONNA BE HARD ENOUGH. THERE'S ONLY ONE SYSTEM I HAVE FOUND TO BE MORE DYSFUNCTIONAL. AND THAT IS A CHILD CUSTODY COURT ORDER. IT'S THE ONLY THING YOU PAID $30,000 FOR. AND THEN YOU GOTTA PAY 'EM TO GO BACK AND SAY, WE'RE NOT FOLLOWING THE COURT ORDER. I I HAVE YET TO FIGURE OUT WHY WOULD THERE NEED TO BE A TIME LIMIT? IT'S VERY SPECIFIC IN HERE. HEAR ME OUT AND I'M, I'M GONNA BE QUIET, MAN. I I IT'S TOUGH WHEN YOU GOT THREE MINUTES AND IT TELLS YOU THE FOLLOWING TERMS AND PHRASES WHEN USED IN THIS SECTION, SHALL HAVE THE MEANING SUBSCRIBED TO THEM IN A SECTION EXCEPT WHERE THE CONTEXT CLEARLY INDICATES A DIFFERENT MEANING. AND THEN IT GOES ON AND IT TELLS YOU EVERY DEFINITION. AND THEN IT ALSO TELLS YOU THAT AFTER A COMPLAINT OR ALLEGATION OF A VIOLATION OF THIS ARTICLE, IT CAN ONLY BE MADE WHILE SOMEONE IS HOLDING A POSITION. UH, I, HERE'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE FOR SOMEONE TO ANSWER ME. Y'ALL SET THE ORDINANCE. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO ENFORCE IT. WHY HAS THIS NOT BEEN ENFORCED? AND I'M GONNA SAY SOMETHING TO WHAT JESSE SAID. BOY, I WISH I COULD HAVE JUST HAD A LITTLE OLD STUPID FACEBOOK GROUP WITH MY STUFF ON THERE. 'CAUSE IF YOU EVER HAD HAVE TOLD ME, I WOULD'VE SAT OUT HERE THAT NIGHT AND TOLD TWO PEOPLE IN THIS AUDIENCE, WHY DIDN'T YOU RUN FOR CITY COUNCIL? AND I SAID, 'CAUSE I HAVE A CRIMINAL RECORD. GALVESTON DAILY NEWS DIDN'T CARE ABOUT ME. THEY WEREN'T RUNNING MY RECORD. THEY WEREN'T SEEING WHAT'S UP. I'M GONNA TELL YOU HOW IT HAPPENED. OUR OWN CITY FROM BEHIND HERE, THEY COULD HAVE CARED LESS ABOUT ME. THEY HAD ALREADY ASKED ME THE QUESTIONS. IT WASN'T UNTIL I SAID THAT AND TWO DAYS LATER IT GOT OUT. I DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT WHAT I MEAN PEOPLE DO. I DIDN'T WANT THAT. I HAD TO EXPLAIN TO MY 15-YEAR-OLD SON, WHICH I SHOULDN'T HAVE HAD TO DO. YOU KNOW, HE KNEW I HAD DONE STUFF. MA'AM, YOUR THUMB'S UP. THE RECORD HAS BEEN SET HERE. I I I'M JUST ONE MINUTE IN THE LAST TWO, THREE YEARS. GIVE ONE MORE MINUTE. I DON'T TAKE ANYTHING PERSONAL. RIGHT? THIS HAS NEVER BEEN PERSONAL. IT'S LIKE THIS IS THE LAW. WHY AREN'T WE FOLLOWING ? I'VE COME UP HERE HOW MANY TIMES, THEO WITH THIS, EVERY SINGLE TIME. I JUST, WHAT I ASK THAT MAN TONIGHT, HE'S NOT EVEN TELLING US IF WE'RE FOLLOWING OUR, THE LAWS. 'CAUSE I GUARANTEE YOU, MAN, ON THAT RED, WHITE AND BAYOU PURCHASE, I MEAN THERE WERE NO BIDS OVER $50,000 DONE. AND ONE PERSON MADE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. I KNOW THAT. AND I KNOW THERE WAS NO BIDS. THAT'S AGAINST THE LAW. SO MY THING IS, WHO, WHO'S ENFORCING THESE? THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY CHANGES. WHAT WE NEED TO START DOING IS START DOING THEM. IT'S NOT, EVERYBODY SAYS, OH, IT'S SO HARD. IT'S NOT. THERE'S LAWS, THERE'S STATE LAWS, LOCAL LAWS, AND I'M GONNA BE QUIET AND I APPRECIATE THE EXTRA MINUTE STATE LAWS, LOCAL LAWS. THESE SET IT OUT CLEAR FOR Y'ALL. YOU KNOW WHAT YOURS ARE. YOU WENT TO SCHOOL FOR IT. IT'S JUST DO THE RIGHT THING. AND IT JUST MAKES IT SO MUCH EASIER, YOU KNOW? THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. AND THEN DO I HAVE A, A MOTION? YEAH, I MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE CHANGES. I GOT A MOTION TO DENY. AND I HAVE A SECOND. HAVE SECOND I DO. COUNCIL MEMBER SCHICK. SECOND IT. COUNCIL MEMBER TOWNSEND WITH THE MOTION. SO WE MOTION ON THE TABLE. UH, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS? IF I CAN, IF I CAN JUST SPEAK TO THE ORDINANCE. JUST PRESENTED A BIT. UH, THE COUNCIL MAY RECALL THAT THIS, THESE CHANGES WERE DISCUSSED WITH THE COUNCIL, UH, PREVIOUSLY. AND THAT'S WHEN THE COUNCIL DIRECTED ME, THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO PUT IN THESE TWO CHANGES. THE TWO CHANGES THAT I'M PROPOSING, ONE IS TO, UH, IMPOSE A TIMELINE OF 12 MONTHS A YEAR, UH, SUCH THAT, UH, NOT LONGER THAN THAT PERIOD OF TIME CAN ELAPSE FROM WHEN AN ALLEGED VIOLATION OCCURRED TO THE FILING, UH, OF A COMPLAINT. SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE COMPLAINTS COMING OUT OF THE WOODWORK MUCH LATER, YOU KNOW, YEARS AFTER THE, UH, THE ALLEGED CONDUCT. SO THAT YOU NOW HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, UH, COMING UP WITH WITNESSES AND EVIDENCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO DISCUSS THE, THE MATTER, UH, PRETTY COMMONPLACE TO HAVE A STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS, UH, ON THESE SORTS OF THINGS. AND SO, UM, THAT ONE YEAR [02:35:01] TIMEFRAME IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, ANOTHER CITY THAT I'M, UH, FAMILIAR WITH THE ORDINANCES, UH, ALSO HAS IN ITS ETHICS, UH, ORDINANCE. UH, THAT WAS ONE THAT I DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY WITH THE COUNCIL. AND THEN THE, UH, THE SECOND CHANGE IS TO PROVIDE THE, UM, THE DEFENSE THAT IF A MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL ASKS FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OPINION ON POTENTIAL CONDUCT AND WHETHER OR NOT IT WOULD BE A VIOLATION OF THE CODE OF ETHICS, THAT SAID, COUNCIL MEMBER CAN RELY UPON THE OPINION GIVEN SUCH THAT IF LATER ON THE COUNCIL MEMBER HAS A, A COMPLAINT FILED AGAINST HIM OR HER FOR THAT SAME CONDUCT THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY HAD OPINED, YES, THIS IS FINE, THEN THE COUNCIL MEMBER CAN SAY, HERE'S MY DEFENSE. I ASKED THE CITY ATTORNEY BEFOREHAND, HE OR SHE SAID IT WAS FINE. AND SO I SHOULD NOW BE SUBJECT TO A COMPLAINT FOR THAT SAME CONDUCT. YOU GUYS HAVE A CITY ATTORNEY, YOU SHOULD HAVE THAT, UM, THAT PROTECTION. AND SO THAT ALSO WAS A CHANGE THAT I DISCUSSED WITH THE COUNCIL. REMEMBER, THIS IS NOT AN ORDINANCE THAT CAME OUTTA NOWHERE, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS DISCUSSED WITH YOU GUYS, UH, BEFORE THAT. SO, UH, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. AGAIN, I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK YOUR HANDS SHOULD BE TIED TO 12 MONTHS. 'CAUSE SOMETIMES YOU DON'T FIND OUT THINGS HAPPEN UNTIL AFTER 12 MONTHS. IT MIGHT TAKE LONGER THAN THAT AND SIT THERE AND HIDE BEHIND WILL. THE CITY ATTORNEY TOLD ME I COULD DO THAT. THAT'S CRAP. SO THAT'S WHY I'M MAKING A MOTION. DENY IT. JUST LEAVE IT LIKE IT IS. SO, AND THEN, UM, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS WHERE DOES THE 12 MONTHS COME FROM? SO, LIKE I SAID, I LOOKED AT THE LAKE CITY ORDINANCE, SAW IT'S IN THERE AS WELL. UM, BUT THEN LOOK AT OTHER ONES. SO LIKE I SAID, IT WAS PRESENTED, STARTED DOING SOME RESEARCH ON IT. UM, AND I GUESS THAT'S THE ONE THING, AND THIS IS ONLY IN REGARDS TO ETHICS VIOLATIONS, OBVIOUSLY, RIGHT? THIS HAS, OB HAS NO RECOURSE WHATSOEVER FOR ANY CRIMINAL ACTION THAT'S HAPPENING. UM, HOWEVER, LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER TOWNSEND SAID, WHAT HAPPENS IF WE JUST DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT FOR A YEAR AND A HALF AND NOW WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT? SO I GUESS WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, PAUL, WHAT'S IN THERE THAT PREVENTS US FROM GETTING HANDCUFFED IF THAT HAPPENS, RIGHT? I'M, I'M NOT SAYING I'M FOR OR AGAINST IT OR WHATEVER. I'M JUST CURIOUS OF WHAT HAPPENS IN THAT SCENARIO WHERE SOMETHING HAPPENS OVER A YEAR AGO, BUT WE STILL NEED TO EVALUATE IT. UH, I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. AND THAT IS A SITUATION THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED WITH LANGUAGE THAT BASICALLY PROVIDES FOR, UH, TOLLING OF THAT TIMELINE, UH, COMMONPLACE TO, UH, A TORT LAWSUIT. YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, MEDICAL MALPRACTICE, YOU MIGHT NOT UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS A SURGICAL SPONGE THAT WAS LEFT IN THE BODY CAVITY WHEN IT WAS SEWN UP FOR SIX MONTHS. OKAY? AND SO THE WAY THAT, LIKE IN A LAWSUIT, A TORT CLAIM, IT'S TWO YEARS FROM WHEN YOU EITHER KNEW OR REASONABLY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN. AND SO IF THE COUNCIL WOULD, LIKE, WE CAN ADD THAT LANGUAGE IN THERE WHERE, OKAY, IT'S 12 MONTHS FROM WHEN YOU EITHER KNEW OR REASONABLY WITH THE EXERCISE IF JUST DUE DILIGENCE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN AND THEN, UH, TOLD IT THAT WAY. SO IF TRULY THERE IS SOME CONDUCT THAT WAS HIDDEN AND, AND NOBODY KNEW ABOUT IT, THE, THE COMPLAINANT, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT, COULD NOT HAVE KNOWN ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, JUST THROUGH THE EXERCISE OF SIMPLE DUE DILIGENCE, THEN THAT WAS SERVED THROUGH TOLL THAT PERIOD OF TIME. SO YOU'RE SAYING IF WE ADJUSTED IT TO WHERE IT'S 12 MONTHS FROM KNOWN OR FROM THE ACTUAL ACTIVITY, OR ONCE A WHILE, I ACTUALLY KNOW ABOUT IT. I HAVE NOW 12 MONTHS REASONABLY KNOWN ABOUT IT. NOT YOU STUCK YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND AND LIKE REFUSE TO FIND OUT, YOU KNOW, BUT KNOWN OR REASONABLY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN. BUT LIKE I SAID, IF IT'S, I, I GUESS THAT'S THE, THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH IT IS WHEN, WHEN I STARTED THINKING MORE ABOUT IT, THE 12 MONTH IS TOUGH BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW A LOT OF, UH, ACTIVITY HAPPENS BEHIND THE SCENES, UM, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NEGATIVE ACTIVITY, RIGHT? SURE. AND IT USUALLY GETS COVERED UP. SO WHEN YOU JUST PUT A BLANKET STATEMENT OF 12 MONTHS, THAT, THAT, THAT HANDCUFFS US PRETTY BADLY. IT'S THE SAME PHILOSOPHY BEHIND, YEAH. CLASS C, B AND A MISDEMEANORS, OKAY? WHICH CARRY PUNISHMENT UP TO, UH, A YEAR IN JAIL AND $4,000 FINE. THAT'S A CLASS A, UH, STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS IS TWO YEARS. OKAY? IN PUBLIC SERVICE, WE POTENTIALLY CAN SERVE FOR NINE YEARS IN, IN [02:40:01] REELECTION. I'M A LITTLE, UH, I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SOMETHING THAT, UH, IF, UH, IF YOU'VE COMMITTED AN ETHICS VIOLATION, YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO SPLASH IT ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE GALVESTON DAILY NEWS. SO IT MAY BE YEARS AFTER AN AUDIT WHEN WE DISCOVER THIS OR AFTER WE GET THROUGH WITH PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUESTS THAT TAKE A WHILE TO GET. I THINK THAT IF A, UH, PUBLIC OFFICIAL THAT WE OUGHT TO LIMIT IT TO THE TIME THAT THEY WERE ELECTED UNTIL THE TIME THAT THEY LEFT THE OFFICE. 'CAUSE I THINK WE OUGHT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE WHOLE TIME AND NOT HAVE A, UH, GET OUTTA JAIL TIME ON THIS THING. WHAT PRECIPITATED THIS CHANGE ON HERE? WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, SIR. UH, WELL, WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT IT IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIC. SO WHAT PARTICIPATED THIS CHANGE? WHY DO WE HAVE TO MAKE THIS CHANGE IN YOUR OPINION? YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE THE CHANGE. OKAY. IT WAS A RECOMMENDATION THAT I MADE BASED ON MY HAVING WORKED WITH CODES OF ETHICS, UH, IN OTHER PLACES MM-HMM . AND TO ME IT IS A SENSIBLE PROVISION TO HAVE. SO THAT ONCE AGAIN, YOU HAVE SOME TIMEFRAME, UM, THAT A COMPLAINANT WOULD BRING FORTH A, A COMPLAINT IN. AND, AND PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS ETHICS ORDINANCE, IT SPELLS OUT A MECHANISM FOR THE FILING OF A COMPLAINT AND THEN THE INVESTIGATION OF SAID COMPLAINT BY MY OFFICE. OKAY? AND THEN THAT COULD CARRY, YOU KNOW, THE COUNSEL COULD VOTE ON A REPRIMAND, A LETTER OF ADMONITION, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN POTENTIAL SANCTIONS AS A RESULT OF THAT, UH, UNETHICAL CONDUCT, THAT VIOLATION JUST BECAUSE, UH, THE COUNCIL MAY DECIDE TO IMPOSE A TIMELINE IN WHICH TO FILE THAT COMPLAINT. AND LET'S SAY A PERSON MISSES TO FILING THAT COMPLAINT, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE PERSON CAN'T STILL MAKE PUBLIC STATEMENTS ABOUT IT. CAN'T STILL MAKE US THINK ABOUT IT. GO TO THE GALSTON DAILY NEWS AND TALK ABOUT IT. IT DOESN'T FREE THE PUBLIC OFFICIAL FROM ALL OF THOSE NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES. JUST THIS PARTICULAR, UH, MECHANISM HERE OF INVESTIGATING THE ALLEGED CONDUCT AND THEN MAKING SOME FINDINGS AND THEN PRESENTING TO THE COUNSEL FOR ACTION ON A POTENTIAL SANCTION. YOU KNOW, IT PROVIDES A TIMEFRAME IN WHICH TO DO THAT BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN, TOO MUCH TIME ELAPSES, THEN IT BECOMES MUCH HARDER TO CONDUCT AN INVESTIGATION INTO ALLEGED MISCONDUCT AND SPEAK TO WITNESSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO, AND I, I THINK THIS IS THE, THE ONE THING WHEN IT WAS IN MY MIND, THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION IS TO PUT IT IN WRITING AS IN ONE, IT, I I THINK IT SHOULD DEFINITELY BE TWO YEARS. IF, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MISDEMEANORS AS A TWO YEAR STA STATUTE LIMITATIONS, I COULD SEE TWO YEARS. BUT ONCE AGAIN, IT'S TWO YEARS FROM YOUR REASONABLE FINDINGS, NOT FROM THE INCIDENT HAPPENING. RIGHT? SO IF SOMETHING HAPPENED EIGHT YEARS AGO AND I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT IT SIX MONTHS AGO, I HAVE ANOTHER YEAR AND A HALF TO REPORT IT, RIGHT? SO THAT, THAT I CAN SEE AS A VALID SOLUTION TO IT. BUT THE CLEAR CUT ONE YEAR, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. I, I, I STILL THINK THAT WE NEED TO MAKE IT TO WHERE OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND OUR CITY STAFF THAT WORKS ON NOTHING BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, TAX PAYING DOLLARS, UH, WE OWE IT TO THEM, TO THEM HOLDING US ACCOUNTABLE. RIGHT? UH, HOWEVER, WE DO NEED A STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS BECAUSE WE CAN'T HAVE WITCH HUNTS FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. UM, ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS FOR FUTURE STUFF, RIGHT? IT, IT'S, WE NEED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF LANGUAGE THAT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO ALLOW THINGS THAT WE FIND OUT AFTER THE FACT. UM, SO THAT, I GUESS THAT WAS MY BIGGEST COMPLAINT WITH THE ORDINANCE. THE WAY IT WAS WRITTEN WAS NOT HAVING THAT, LIKE, LIKE WHAT YOU SAID, THAT TERMINOLOGY THAT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO ALLOW A VARIANCE. BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN, IF A CITIZEN FINDS SOMETHING, WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT IT. AND I DON'T WANNA BE HANDCUFFED IF I CAN CORRECT THE ACTION. I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH LEGAL ACTION AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT LAWSUITS AND THEN THEY HAVE TO PAY A BUNCH OF MONEY. SO, UM, THAT, THAT'S MY BIGGEST, I GUESS, COMPLAINT WITH IT. UM, SO OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A MOTION. UH, WHAT OTHER QUESTIONS DO WE HAVE? I WAS ANSWER THE QUESTION OF WHO IS ENFOR THIS? SO MAKE SURE THIS STUFF DOESN'T HAPPEN. SO I, I WAS GOING TO ORATE. SO I WAS GONNA SAY, FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD, IT SEEMS THAT THE MAJOR STICKING POINT IS THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS OF ONE YEAR VERSUS TWO YEAR. SO I WOULD BE FINE. WELL, I I DON'T THINK THAT'S A STICKING POINT. I THINK THAT WAS JUST MY OWN PERSONAL, THAT'S JUST WHAT I'VE [02:45:01] HEARD COMMENTS BY SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS MAKING, INCLUDING YOURSELF, UH, MAYOR. BUT, UM, OKAY. I I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO THINK I'M LIKE THROWING THAT, THAT WE HAVE TO BE STUCK AT TWO YEARS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. YEAH, NO, AND I, AND I TEND TO GRAVITATE TOWARDS THAT MYSELF. UM, SO, UM, AND THAT MAY BE A WAY OF, UH, FIXING THIS. UH, CAN WE AMEND THE MOTION TO SAY IF IT'S MODIFIED TO INCLUDE THE LANGUAGE OF TWO YEARS INSTEAD OF ONE YEAR? WELL, I THINK WE'RE, THIS IS ALMOST MORE OF A, WE SHOULD PROBABLY VOTE ON THE CURRENT MOTION AND PROBABLY REWRITE A, A NEW PROPOSAL. IT'S A PROBLEM. A NEW IDEA. SO I GUESS HERE I WANNA HEAR. YEAH, IF YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T, IT DOESN'T MATTER. YEAH. THIS IS FOR US, IT AIN'T GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH THE LAW WHEN YOU WALK OUT THE DOOR, IF YOU BROKE THE LAW, THEY CAN FILE CHARGES ON YOU. YOU CAN GO TO JAIL IF YOU FILE, IF YOU DO SOMETHING THAT'S ILLEGAL, IF YOU'RE NOT ON COUNCIL OR ANY BOARD, IT DON'T MATTER IF THEY FOUND OUT ABOUT IT IN FIVE YEARS THAT I STOLE A PENCIL ONE WEDNESDAY NIGHT UP HERE WHEN I LEFT THE COUNCIL MEETING, IF I AIN'T ON COUNCIL, WHAT YOU GONNA DO TO ME? YOU CAN'T SANCTION ME. YOU CAN'T KICK ME OFF OF COUNCIL. YOU CAN'T DO NOTHING TO ME. 'CAUSE I'M NOT ON THE BOARD NO MORE. AND TO HIDE BEHIND A CITY ATTORNEY SAID, WELL, YEAH, I THINK YOU CAN DO THAT. YEAH, I'LL GO BACK TO WHAT I SAID. IT'S CRAP. YEAH. I, I JUST WANNA POINT OUT THAT'S AN ACTUAL LEGAL DEFENSE THOUGH AS WELL. IF, IF THERE WAS A A, A CRIMINAL CHARGE BEING BROUGHT, THERE'S A LEGAL DEFENSE TO SAY THAT, WELL, MY ATTORNEY TOLD ME X, Y, Z. SO I MEAN, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT UNCOMMON. THERE'S NOT ILLEGAL. THEY'RE GONNA TELL YOU, I DON'T CARE. SHOULD HAVE HAD A BETTER ATTORNEY. WELL, I MEAN THERE IS AN ACTUAL LEGAL DEFENSE IN, IN REGARD TO THAT, UM, ESPECIALLY FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF RULES, A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DON'T COME FROM THE PUBLIC SECTOR. AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE'S ALL THESE RULES AND YOU GO AND YOU TALK TO THE CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY ATTORNEY SAYS SOMETHING IS FINE. AND IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, THAT MAY BE FINE, BUT IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR IT MAY NOT BE. SO, YOU KNOW, HAVING THAT RELIANCE ON THE ATTORNEY'S OPINION IS, IS A, IS A HUGE DEFENSE FOR, FOR PUBLIC, FOR, FOR PUBLIC OFFICIALS. SO JUST, JUST WANT TO THROW THAT OUT THERE. WHAT THEY COULD DO IS IT MIGHT SAY, WELL, THEY CAN'T GIVE YOU AN OFFICIAL REPRIMAND IN A COUNCIL MEETING. THAT'S THE WORST YOU'RE GOING TO GET OUT OF THIS. 'CAUSE IT HAS NO, IT HAS NO LEGAL STANDING OUTSIDE OF THIS ROOM PER SE. WELL, I GUESS REALLY WHAT THIS ORDINANCE IS REALLY ABOUT IS DICTATING WHEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN CAN A COUNCIL, UH, ISSUE A CENSURE BASICALLY. 'CAUSE WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT COULD END UP HAPPENING IS, IS, YOU KNOW, IF, IF I, AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING THAT THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED HERE OR ANYTHING, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, UNDER CERTAIN MECHANISMS, I MEAN THERE'S, YOU KNOW, HAVING CITY COUNCILS JUST WILLY NILLY CI SOMEONE BECAUSE THEY DON'T AGREE WITH AN OPINION OR SOMETHING. SO I THINK THAT THIS IS TO TRY TO HEM IN LIKE THE CAUSES, HAVING SOMETHING THAT GOES THROUGH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WHO SAYS, YES, THIS WAS A, A VIOLATION, KIND OF TEMPERS ANY OPPORTUNITY FOR SAY, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S HERE, BUT THE IDEA IS SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A COUNCIL THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, WE JUST DON'T LIKE THIS ONE PERSON, SO WE'RE GONNA GRANDSTAND AND C HIM AND OR HER AND, AND, AND, AND MAKE A, MAKE A SHOW OF IT. YOU KNOW, BASICALLY IT'S KIND OF WHAT THE IDEA IS, I'M SURE. AND THEN WHEN, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMPLAINTS AGAINST OFFICERS, WHAT EXACTLY DOES THAT ENTAIL? IS THAT JUST US OR IS THAT ALSO THE C-SUITE SIDE OF IT? OR IS IT ALL EMPLOYEES? LIKE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT OFFICERS, I, I THINK OF ELECTED OFFICIALS. ELECTED OFFICIALS. OKAY. UH, MEMBERS OF BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. OKAY. UH, LIKE SPECIFICALLY, UH, EDC BOARD MEMBERS ARE, UH, CALLED OUT, UM, COUNCIL DIRECT REPORTS, I BELIEVE IN THE DEFINITION, BUT NOT GENERALLY EMPLOYEES. 'CAUSE THE EMPLOYEES ARE GOVERNED BY THE EMPLOYEE HANDBOOK. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. JUST MA I'M MAKING SURE THAT THIS IS COVERING US. IT'S NOT COVERING EMPLOYEES PER SE. CORRECT. SO WE YOU TO MAKE SURE I JUST, ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS MORE FOR THE PUBLIC SO THEY UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT IS ASKED. YES. UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, TO TO THAT SECOND PROPOSED CHANGE, YOU KNOW, SECTION TWO DASH 59 INTERPRETATION OF CONTENT THAT READS, ANY OFFICER MAY REQUEST AND THE CITY ATTORNEY SHALL ISSUE A VERBAL OR WRITTEN OPINION AS DEEMED APPROPRIATE CONCERNING THE MEANING OR EFFECT OF ANY SECTION WORD OR REQUIREMENT OF THIS CODE OF ETHICS AS IT AFFECTS SUCH PERSON. IF YOU DON'T PROVIDE A DEFENSE ALONG WITH THAT, THEN WHAT'S THE POINT? YEP. LIKE ONE OF Y'ALL COULD ASK ME FOR AN OPINION AND I CAN GIVE THE OPINION, BE COMPLETELY WRONG, MAKE STUFF UP, GIVE YOU INCORRECT STUFF, AND THEN YOU GUYS GO FORTH AND SAY, OKAY, WELL I'M OKAY DOING THIS. AND THEN YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO COVER. SO TO ME, EITHER HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL COVER OR DO AWAY WITH THAT SECTION THAT SAYS THAT YOU CAN GET AN INTERPRETATION ON WHAT A PROVISION MIGHT MEAN AS IT RELATES TO YOU. THE, [02:50:01] THE OTHER ISSUE I HAVE IS THAT, UH, WE HAVE THE PROVISION THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN GIVE PERMISSION OR SAY IT'S OKAY, BUT THAT'S ALSO THE SAME CITY ATTORNEY THAT EVALUATES WHETHER THE, UH, THE CLAIM IS SUFFICIENT OR NOT ENOUGH TO, UH, INVESTIGATE. UH, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE PUTTING A LOT OF IMPORTANCE ON THE CITY ATTORNEY TO NOT ONLY APPROVE THAT AN ACTION TAKES AND THEN TURN AROUND AND APPROVE WHETHER A COMPLAINT AGAINST THERE IS SUFFICIENT. UH, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF ASKING A WHOLE LOT MORE IMPORTANT THAN THAT IS THAT WHAT IF A CITY ATTORNEY SAYS IT'S OKAY THAT CITY ATTORNEY'S FIRED AND WE HAVE A NEW CITY ATTORNEY WHO SAYS THAT THAT'S ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE, THEN, THEN WHAT HAPPENS? I THINK THAT'S WHEN YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT PROTECTION THAT IS BEING ADVOCATED FOR IN THIS MM-HMM . PROPOSED ORDINANCE IS THAT YOU CAN SAY, HEY, HERE'S MY PREVIOUS, YOU KNOW, WRITTEN OPINION FROM THE PREVIOUS E ATTORNEY. BUT YOU SAID VERBAL OR WRITTEN. CORRECT. OKAY. THAT'S HOW IT'S, UH, SHOWN IN THE ORDINANCE NOW. AND ACTUALLY THE, UM, MY PROPOSED CHANGE, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, I TOOK OUT THE, UH, THE VERBAL PART. YES. IT, IT WAS STRIKED FROM VERBAL AND IT HAD TO BE WRITTEN CORRECT. YEAH. BECAUSE TO ME, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE BECAUSE HOW, HOW CAN YOU CLAIM THAT A CITY ATTORNEY GAVE YOU A VERBAL OKAY, AS TO SOME, YOU KNOW, QUESTION THAT YOU HAD ABOUT PROPOSED CONDUCT. THAT'S WHY, TO ME, IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE IT AS A WRITTEN OPINION SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE A COPY OF IT, A RECORD OF IT TO SAY, I DID ASK BEFORE I ENGAGED IN THIS CONDUCT, I WAS TOLD IT WAS OKAY, YOU KNOW, AND EVEN IF IT'S A NEW CITY ATTORNEY, THIS SHOULD STILL COVER ME. SO ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS A PROPOSAL THAT IS TO BENEFIT THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND, AND BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. SO, AND YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT. YOU KNOW, WE MAY WANT TO CONSIDER REMOVING THE TIMEFRAME BECAUSE OF THE WAY LOCAL GOVERNMENT WORKS. YOU KNOW, YOU MAY HAVE SOMEBODY WHO SERVES ON A BOARD FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, UH, AND YOU KNOW, AND THEN BECOMES A MEMBER OF COUNCIL. UH, AND YOU NEED AN OPINION FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY WHETHER THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING HAPPENED THEN OR, OR WHATEVER, UH, OR VICE VERSA. SO, YOU KNOW, UH, I THINK WE'VE LEARNED THAT FOLKS, YOU KNOW, YOU CONTINUALLY SEE THE SAME NAMES AND FACES A LOT OF TIMES, SO THERE MAY BE AN ADVANTAGE TO NOT HAVING A, A TIMEFRAME ON IT. UM, AS FAR AS THE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T READ THIS AS A WAY TO HIDE BEHIND A CITY'S ATTORNEY, A CITY ATTORNEY'S OPINION, AND I MAY BE BIASED, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, MY EXPERIENCE IS, IS THAT, UH, NO POSITION WITHIN CITY GOVERNMENT IS EVER PERMANENT. UM, THAT'S JUST THE REALITY OF IT. AND SO IF YOU GET AN, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY, IT MAY BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT NOW SINCE WE HAVE A CITY ATTORNEY THAT WORKS DIRECTLY FOR THE CITY, BUT PREVIOUSLY WE HAD FIRMS THAT WORKED FOR THE CITY. AND YOU MAY HAVE A CITY ATTORNEY AT THIS MEETING OR, UH, OR FOR THIS PERIOD OF TIME, AND THEN THREE MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD YOU'VE GOT A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CITY ATTORNEY SERVING THE CITY. AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THIS PROVISION THAN WHAT YOU COULD HAVE IS, IS THAT YOU GO THROUGH AN INVESTIGATION AND THIS IS CITY ATTORNEY GIVES YOU THIS OPINION, WHETHER IT BE POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE, RIGHT? UM, BUT THEN THREE MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD ARE YOU GOING THROUGH ANOTHER INVESTIGATION SO THAT YOU HAVE TO GET A NEW OPINION FROM THE NEW CITY ATTORNEY BECAUSE HIS MIGHT BE DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE BEFORE. UM, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S I DON'T, I DON'T SEE THE SECOND PROVISION AS BEING INHERENTLY NEGATIVE. UM, UH, SO JUST MY OPINION MAY ACTUALLY BE AN ENCOURAGEMENT FOR OFFICIALS TO, YOU KNOW, ENGAGE THAT CITY ATTORNEY BEFORE, YOU KNOW, DOING, SAID, UH, ACTIVITY THAT MAY BE QUESTIONABLE. 'CAUSE THEN YOU CAN SAY, WELL, HERE'S YOUR CARROT. THE CARROT IS, IS IF THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID, SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU TAKE THAT OUT, THEN THERE'S REALLY NO REASON TO GET, YOU KNOW, TO, TO GO SIT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY REALLY AT THE END OF THE DAY. BECAUSE EVEN IF THE CITY ATTORNEY SAYS YOU'RE GOOD, AND THEN SIX MONTHS LATER YOU'RE SITTING BEING CENSURED FOR SOMETHING, THE CITY ATTORNEY TOLD YOU WAS FINE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S NECESSARILY FAIR TO YOU. IF YOU DID, IF YOU DID YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKED TO DO, IS TO GO SIT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY. SO, AND I GUESS THIS IS THE BIG THING IS, IS WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT CRIMINAL. NO. RIGHT? SO IT'S NOT LIKE, AND I THINK THIS GOES BACK TO KIND OF WHAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TOWNSEND WAS SAYING, IS, REALISTICALLY, IF I DO SOMETHING UNDER YOUR, [02:55:01] UNDER THE CITY ATTORNEY'S BACKING AND I DO SOMETHING, AND IT BECOMES UN IT'S CONSIDERED UNETHICAL, EVEN IF IT WAS UNDER YOUR DIRECTION OR NOT, I HAVE TO LEAVE. WHETHER SOMEONE TOLD ME IT WAS COOL OR NOT, I STILL MADE THE DECISION TO MAKE TO DO THAT. RIGHT? SO IT'S STILL AN ETHICS VIOLATION AND PEOPLE ARE STILL GONNA BE COMING AFTER YOU, AND YOU'RE GONNA END UP LOSING THE JOB ANYWAYS, OR LOSING THE SPOT ON THE BOARD. SO WHY ARE WE, I GUESS, HANDCUFFING, I ACTUALLY PREFER TO HAVE MORE OVERSIGHT OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, BECAUSE THEN THEY'RE LESS LIKELY TO DO SOMETHING STUPID. ALSO, WE SHOULD KNOW OUR, OUR LEFT AND RIGHT LATERAL LIMITS PERSONALLY, NOT HAVE TO RELY ON A CITY ATTORNEY TO ANSWER ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS. RIGHT. SO BY DOING THIS, THIS MEANS NOW THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS TO DO A BUNCH OF WORK THAT I SHOULD PROBABLY DO FOR MY OWN SELF AS AN ADULT, RIGHT. MAKING SURE I'M DOING IT RIGHT BY THE CITY. NOW I GOT IT. THAT MAKES SENSE TO ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR CERTAIN THINGS. UM, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY. YOU KNOW, THE MORE WE TALK ABOUT IT TO HAVE THIS, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ETHICS, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT CRIMINAL END YOUR LIFE, GO TO JAIL STUFF. WE'RE SAYING, OH, NOW YOU GOTTA STEP DOWN FROM THE BOARD, WHETHER IT WAS CONSIDERED AN ETHICS VIOLATION OR NOT. THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE STEPPING DOWN ANYWAYS, RIGHT? JUST BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T TRUST YOU ANYMORE. WHETHER YOU HAD BAD INFORMATION TOLD YOU, OR IT WAS YOUR OWN DECISION, IT DOESN'T MATTER TO THE PUBLIC. THEY DON'T CARE. SO, I THAT, I GUESS THAT'S PART OF WHY IT, THE MORE, I THINK IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO CHANGE, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE STILL ADULTS. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS? WELL, WE GOT A MOTION. WE GOT A SECOND. YEAH, I GOT, I GOT ONE. I'M JUST THINKING LIKE, YOU KNOW, COMING INTO THIS POSITION, I HAD A GREAT DEAL OF KNOWLEDGE OF THE CITY. WORKED FOR THE CITY FOR 10 YEARS BEFORE THIS, NOT THIS CITY, BUT, UM, E EVEN SO, I MEAN, LIKE TRAVIS MENTIONED, I THINK MOST OF US WOULD IMMEDIATELY KNOW WHAT WAS RIGHT FROM WRONG. AND IF THERE WAS ANYTHING THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF GRAY AREA, THAT'S WHEN YOU'D BE CONSULTING THE CITY ATTORNEY. I DON'T IMAGINE I'D BE USING THE CITY ATTORNEY'S ADVICE FOR EVERY SINGLE SMALL THING, BECAUSE GENERALLY WE HAVE THE SAME, THE JUDGMENT THAT WE NEED TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. HOWEVER, AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, THERE'S STILL SOME THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THE INS AND OUTS OF EVERY SINGLE INDUSTRY AND THING THAT WE WORK WITH HERE IN THE CITY. I TRY TO LEARN AS MUCH AS I CAN, BUT HAVING THAT PROVISION IN PLACE THAT SAYS, THIS IS THE ADVICE THAT I HAD AT THE TIME, AND THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THE, WE'VE HAD ROTATED, ROTATING, ROTATING ATTORNEYS SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, KIND OF, KIND OF THE SIMILAR THING. SO I, I, I THINK I DO AGREE WITH KEEPING THAT PROVISION IN THERE ABOUT US, UH, YOU KNOW, BEING ABLE TO BASICALLY BLAME THE CITY ATTORNEY. THANK YOU. AND THEN, IS THIS, THIS IS CONSIDERED TWO DIFFERENT CHANGES, CORRECT? THERE'S MORE THAN TWO. THERE'S MORE THAN TWO, OR, YEAH, THERE'S MORE THAN TWO. BUT I'M SAYING, LIKE, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE TWO DIFFERENT SECTIONS, THOSE ARE KIND OF TWO COMPLETELY SEPARATE ITEMS THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY EXACTLY WITH EACH OTHER, RIGHT? LIKE, WE CAN DO ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER. YES, SIR. YOU CAN DO ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. SO, YEAH, IT, IT'LL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE WITH THIS CHANGE, BUT NOT THE OTHER CHANGE. ABSOLUTELY. ONCE AGAIN, AFTER YOU TAKE THE VOTE ON THE MOTION TO DENY MM-HMM . YES. WELL, ANY OTHER, UH, DISCUSSIONS WHILE WE STILL HAVE THIS OPEN MOTION? ALL RIGHT. WELL, I GUESS WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. UM, SO THIS IS A VOTE TO DENY THE MO THE, UH, CONSIDERATION. UM, SO ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. UH, OPPOSED? NO. NO. ALL RIGHT. SO WE GOT FOUR NOS, THREE YESES. UH, MOTION FAILS. DO WE HAVE ANOTHER, UH, MOTION? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE CHANGES OF, UH, STRIKING THE TIMEFRAME AND, UH, STRIKING THE, UH, DEFENSE, LEAVING THE CHANGES FOR THE VERBAL, UH, I MEAN THE WRITTEN, WRITTEN OPINION AND OTHER, AND, AND THE OTHER CHANGES. THERE'S, I THINK THERE'S ONLY ONE RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS A FORM PROVIDED BY THE CITY. SO WE'RE GOING TO, SO YOU'RE MOTIONING I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT CLEAR. YEAH, I'M TRYING TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. UH, SO THERE ARE TWO SECTIONS THAT ARE PROPOSED TO BE CHANGED IN THE ORDINANCE THAT I OFFERED. UH, TWO DASH 57 AND TWO DASH 59. TWO DASH 57 IS THE SECTION WHERE THE PROPOSED CHANGE WOULD BE TO IMPLEMENT THE, UH, 12 MONTH, UH, CUTOFF. UH, AND AS A SIDE, THE REASON WHY I STRUCK THE, ON A FORM PROVIDED BY THE CITY, THAT ACTUALLY MAKES IT EASIER FOR A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO FILE A COMPLAINT. YEAH, THEY CAN JUST FILE A COMPLAINT IN WRITING. THEY DON'T HAVE TO USE ANY SPECIAL FORM IF THEY WANT TO USE [03:00:01] THAT FORM. WELL, THEY ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO USE THAT FORM, BUT THEY'RE NO LONGER REQUIRED TO USE A FORM THAT IS PROMULGATED BY THE CITY. AND SO THAT'S WHY I PROPOSE THAT CHANGE. AND THEN, UH, THE SECOND CHANGE IN THE SAME SECTION, TWO DASH 57 IS THE ONE THAT, UH, IMPOSES THE 12 MONTH, UH, CUTOFF. AND THEN LOOKING TO THE, UH, NEXT SECTION, TWO DASH 59, UH, THAT'S WHERE, UH, I PROPOSE A STRIKE TO VERBAL. JUST KEEP IT AS A, A WRITTEN OPINION. AND THEN, UH, PROVIDES THE DEFENSE THAT IF THE CITY ATTORNEY OPINED THAT IT WAS OKAY, THEN THAT CAN BE A DEFENSE TO A CHARGE OF, UH, AN ETHICAL CONDUCT, UH, LATER ON. SO, UH, COUNCILMAN BRANTLEY, YOUR MOTION TO APPROVE WOULD BE TO APPROVE WHICH OF THOSE PROPOSED, UH, ALTERATIONS TO THE CURRENT ORDINANCE. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE STRIKING THE LANGUAGE ON A FORM PROVIDED BY THE CITY, AND STRIKING THE LANGUAGE VERBAL AS DEEMED APPROPRIATE. OKAY. SO YOU, YOUR, UH, MOTION WOULD NOT BE TO ADOPT THE, THE DEFENSE THAT'S UNDERLINED IN 2 59? NOPE. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO I GOT A MOTION. DO I HAVE A SECOND? DO I HAVE A MOTION? WHO MADE THE MOTION? OH, BRA MADE A MOTION WITH YOU. NEED A SECOND, BUT YES. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BRANTLEY MOTION FOR THE CHAIN TO APPROVE WITH CHANGES, UH, ONLY THE STRIKING OF VERBAL. AND THEN, UM, ON A FORM PROVIDED BY THE CITY ON FORM, ON A FORM PRINTED BY THE CITY IS ALSO STRIKED AS WELL. SO NOW YOU CAN JUST WRITE US AND TELL US YOU HAVE A COMPLAINT AS LONG AS IT'S NOTARIZED. YEP. AND THE 12 MONTHS IS NOT MODIFIED. THE 12 MONTHS WILL BE COMPLETELY STRUCK OUT OF IT. AND THEN THE INTERPRETATION OF CONTENT PROVISION OR, UH, PROTECTION WILL ALSO BE STRUCK. SO WE WILL NOT BE USING THOSE TWO AT ALL. THOSE WILL JUST GO AWAY, IS WHAT THE MOTION ENTAILS. AND THEN, DO I HAVE A SECOND? NO, SECOND BUELLER. MOTION DIES. MOTION DIES. UH, SO I HAVE ANOTHER OPTION, MAYOR. I MOVE, UH, TO APPROVE THE CODE OF ETHICS STRIKING ONLY THE 12 MONTH TIME LIMIT. AND I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THAT TO LANGUAGE THAT WILL REFLECT WHILE STILL IN OFFICE, THE LANGUAGE WHILST IN OFFICE ALREADY EXISTS IN A, WELL, I, I, I DON'T WANT THE 12 MONTH STATUTE LIMITATION. SO I GUESS THE LANGUAGE I'D BE LOOKING FOR IS AS LONG AS THEY'RE ELECTED OFFICIAL MM-HMM . THE COMPLAINT CAN BE BROUGHT. YES. AND, AND THAT'S ALREADY THERE. YEP. IN A SEPARATE SECTION. OKAY. SO THEN JUST STRIKING THE, THE 12 MONTH STATUTE OF LIMITATION. SO I GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE FOR, UH, ALL CHANGES EXCEPT FOR THE 12 MONTH TIMELINE. WE'RE GONNA GET RID OF THAT COMPLETELY. EVERYTHING ELSE WILL MOVE FORWARD. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT. OH, I GOT A SECOND. DO I HAVE A DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. NO MORE DISCUSSIONS. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYE. NO. TO OPPOSE. MOTION PASSED. ALL RIGHT. WHERE ARE WE AT NOW? ALRIGHT, EIGHT AT EIGHT [8.H. RESOLUTION XXX-2025 - Consideration and possible action to approve a Resolution of the City Council of the City of Dickinson, Texas, selecting Grantworks, Inc. for grant administration and planning services related to grant projects under the Hazard Mitigation Grant Program through the Federal Emergency Management Agency and the Texas Division of Emergency Management.] H. THAT WAS TOUGH CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL, OF THE CITY OF DICKINSON, TEXAS. SELECTING GRANT WORKS INCORPORATED FOR GRANT ADMINISTRATION AND PLANNING SERVICES RELATED TO GRANT PROJECTS UNDER THE HAZARD MITIGATION GRANT PROGRAM THROUGH THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY AND THE TEXAS DIVISION OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. MAYOR. I HAVE, UH, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, CHASE CAREY, UH, TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. MAYOR COUNCIL, MR. TON CITIZENS OF THIS GREAT CITY. THE RESOLUTION WE HAVE THIS EVENING IS TO AWARD THE RFP 24 0 2 FOR PROFESSIONAL ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES TO GRANT WORKS INCORPORATED. THIS IS A TEEM, TEXAS DIVISION OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT HAZARD MITIGATION GRANT PROGRAM RELATED TO HURRICANE BARREL. WE RECEIVED THREE BIDS IN TOTAL. UH, GRANT WORKS, JEFFREY S. WARD AND ASSOCIATES, AND LANGFORD COMMUNITY MANAGEMENT SERVICES. UH, WE SELECTED GRANT WORKS BECAUSE IF IT HAS A PROVEN TRACK RECORD OF SUCCESS WITH DISASTER RELATED PROJECTS AND SECURING FUNDS FOR MUNICIPALITIES, UH, WE'RE ALSO EXCITED TO WORK WITH GRANT WORKS, ESPECIALLY IN THE LONG TERM, [03:05:01] BECAUSE THEY ARE RELENTLESS IN THEIR EFFORTS OF PURSUING FUNDS FOR THEIR CLIENTS. UM, WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM GRANT WORKS THIS EVENING TO ADDRESS COUNCIL, UH, I'M GONNA BUTCHER YOUR LAST NAME, MAN, BUT MR. LUKE KREHMEYER. KRESH. KREHMEYER. I GOT CLOSE. UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS MYSELF, OR HE CAN ANSWER. UH, CHASE, CAN YOU KIND OF SPEAK TO WHAT, UH, KIND OF THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK ON, UH, IN THE POST BARREL, UH, UH, FUNDING? YES, SIR. UH, TO MY UNDERSTANDING, IT'S A, IT'S A, WE'RE GONNA GO AFTER GENERATORS FOR ALL CITY FACILITIES. YES, SIR. UH, JUST SO YOU KNOW, IS THAT WE HAD TO, IF YOU REMEMBER, THIS WAS THE, THE, THE PROGRAM THAT, UH, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, YOU KNOW, WE WERE KIND OF GETTING THOSE EMAILS OVER AND OVER AGAIN SAYING, DON'T FORGET, THERE'S THIS KIND OF, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME GRANT FUNDING IN A POST BARREL. THERE WAS SOME FOR, YOU KNOW, POST HARVEY, UH, KINDA LEFT OVER AND, YOU KNOW, POST BARREL STUFF. AND, YOU KNOW, EVEN SOME FOR THE WIND EVENT THAT WE HAD BACK IN APRIL, THAT WAS KIND OF PART OF THIS TOO. SO, UM, SO PART ONE WAS WE KIND OF THREW OUT, YOU KNOW, WE KINDA LOOKED AT WHAT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE TYPE OF STUFF THAT WOULD BE VERY EASY FOR US TO, TO GET GOOD SCORES FOR GRANT, UH, UH, FUNDING. AND THEN THIS PART OF THE, THE PROCESS IS, IS FOR US TO GET THAT FUNDING, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS RFP PROCESS TO SELECT SOMEBODY TO, TO ADMINISTER THIS GRANT. UM, SO ANYWAY, I I JUST WANNA GIVE Y'ALL A LITTLE BACKGROUND OF WHAT THIS IS. THIS IS, THIS IS A, UH, FEDERAL REQUIREMENT THAT WE GO THROUGH A PROCUREMENT PROCESS FOR A GRANT ADMINISTRATOR, YOU KNOW, IN THE EVENT OF, OF AWARDS. SO, SO THIS IS ONLY FOR BUR. YEAH. SO WHAT THIS IS, IS THAT BECAUSE OF, UH, THE, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS KIND OF ISSUED SOME FUNDING REGARDING, UH, SOME RECOVERY AND RESILIENCE EFFORTS FOR BARRELL, UM, THEY REALLY PUT A LOT OF, UM, UM, EMPHASIS ON GENERATORS AND HARDENING OF INFRASTRUCTURE BEING KIND OF LIKE THE MAXIMUM POINT. SO WE DO HAVE NEEDS FOR, UH, FOR GENERATORS TO REPLACE SOME OLD GENERATORS. WE HAVE SOME FACILITIES THAT HAVE NO GENERATOR AT ALL. AND SO THIS WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO, TO MARK REALLY HIGH ON THIS GRANT TO GET TO, TO WORK ON GETTING GENERATORS. SO, SO WHERE ARE WE GETTING GENERATORS AND WHAT ARE WE REPLACING? UH, SO WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WOULD BE THE MAIN REPLACEMENT WOULD BE THE ONE AT, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT. IT'S CURRENTLY A DIESEL. THAT'S, THAT'S VERY, VERY OLD AT THIS POINT. UM, UH, WE'D BE LOOKING AT ADDING AT THE ANIMAL SHELTER, ANIMAL SHELTER, ANIMAL SHELTER. UH, WHERE, WHERE ELSE ARE WE LOOKING AT ADDING A GENERATOR? I BELIEVE WE'RE ALSO, WHAT ABOUT PUBLIC WORKS THERE? YEAH. THERE'S NO GENERATOR AT PUBLIC WORKS. PUBLIC WORKS ALL FACILITIES. YEAH. SO, YEAH. SO WE'D BE LOOKING AT THE LIBRARY 'CAUSE THEY'RE ON A SEPARATE, YOU KNOW, DEAL THEN, THEN THE CITY HALL. UM, SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS WE'RE GONNA SUBMIT FOR EVERY FACILITY OF THE CITY FOR, IF IT DOESN'T HAVE A GENERATOR, ADD ONE. BUT THE MAIN, A BIG ONE WE'RE REALLY WANTING TO PUSH FOR IS TO GET THAT REPLACED AT, AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH WHAT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE SOMETHING LIKE A NATURAL GAS, SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. MAYBE A DUAL FUEL. YEAH. SO IS, IS THIS THE ONLY THING THE GRANT MONEY CAN BE USED FOR AS GENERATORS? UH, MR. LUKE, GO PLEASE, SIR, GO AHEAD. YES, SIR. UH, SO BECAUSE THE MONEY HAS BEEN ALLOCATED FOR ANYTHING DISASTER RELATED, THIS COULD BE, UM, FROM, UH, HAZARD MITIGATION IN THE SENSE OF, UH, FLOOD MITIGATION, UH, SETTING UP BARRIERS. THERE'S THINGS THAT YOU CHOOSE ON WHAT YOU WANNA SPEND THIS MONEY FOR. UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS THAT ARE DOING THE GENERATORS AS WELL. UM, AND SO TO, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO ALL JUST BE SPENT ON GENERATORS? NO, SIR. TO, LONG STORY SHORT, YES, SIR. OKAY. BECAUSE THAT, I MEAN, THAT'S MY BIG QUE LIKE, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE LIBRARY HAVING A GENERATOR, WHY? WELL, YOU, IF WE'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE DON'T HAVE POWER, WHY ARE WE POWERING THE LIBRARY? UNLESS WE'RE GONNA USE THAT FOR A CONTROL CENTER OR SOME, I MEAN, I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHY WE'RE GONNA, SO, SO SOMETIMES IT'S DEALING WITH, UH, ONE TO HEART, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, TWO TO, UH, TO THE, TO THAT POINT OF, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD WANT, OUR GOAL WOULD BE TO APPLY FOR THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF FUNDING. THERE'S NO WAY WE WOULD MAX OUT THE FUNDING JUST ON GENERATORS. BUT THAT WAS, THAT'S KIND OF THE FIRST THING. IT WAS LIKE, WE HAVE TO GET ON THIS GRANT, MAKE SURE WE CAN GET THE GENERATORS. BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, WE COULD HAVE A, A STORM THAT KNOCKS OUT CITY HALL. AND SO BEING ABLE TO TRANSFER THINGS TO THE LIBRARY, 'CAUSE THERE ARE SOME IT, UH, CAPABILITIES THERE. UM, IT COULD BE THAT IF IT'S THE PD THAT GETS KNOCKED OUT AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A NEW STAGING GROUND, THEY MAY NEED TO HOUSE THERE. SO, UH, THE GOAL IS NOT, IT'S NOT THAT THE LIBRARY WOULD BE THE FRONT LINE, [03:10:01] BUT YOU NEVER KNOW WHERE THAT, YOU KNOW, STORM MIGHT, OR IF, IF A TORNADO WOULD RIP UP CITY HALL AND, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW IT, IT'S KIND OF UNPREDICTABLE. IT, IT'D BE GOOD TO HAVE FALLBACKS THROUGHOUT THE CITY JUST DEPENDING ON WHERE THAT NATURAL DISASTER STRUCK, YOU KNOW? WELL, AND I GUESS MY THING, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE, WE'RE NOT LOCKED IN. LIKE WE ONLY ASKED FOR A GRANT FOR THIS, AND WE THEN GET IT, AND THEN WE'RE LIKE, WELL, WE DON'T NEED ALL THOSE GENERATORS, AND THEN WE CAN'T USE THE MONEY FOR ANYTHING IMPORTANT. RIGHT. SO I GUESS THAT WAS THE, THAT'S THE ONLY CONCERN, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FUND MONEY'S NOT JUST DEDICATED TO JUST GENERATORS. SO, YEAH. AND THIS IS AWARDING GRANT WORKS TO PUT THOSE APPLICATIONS IN PLACE. WE CAN APPLY FOR ANYTHING. OKAY, PERFECT. YEAH. YES, SIR. AND WE, AND TO SPEAK FURTHER ON THAT, YES, SIR. UH, WE CAN TAILOR THOSE APPLICATIONS TO FIT ANY NEEDS THAT ARE NECESSARY. UM, AND, AND TO SPEAK FURTHER, UH, TO CITY MANAGER'S POINT, UM, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND YOUR, YOUR QUESTION OF WHY HAVING A GENERATOR AT, UH, A LIBRARY. HOWEVER, THERE ARE PLENTY OF CITIES THAT I WORK WITH IN PARTICULAR THAT HAVE BUILDINGS LIKE THAT FOR FALLOUT SHELTERS OR, OR BACKGROUNDS FOR, YOU KNOW, UM, A HURRICANE WHERE PEOPLE NEED A PLACE TO GO WHERE IT HAS POWER, SOME WARMTH. OH, ABSOLUTELY. IF WE, IF WE DEEM THAT A WARMING CENTER OR WE DEEM THAT, THEN THAT MAKES SENSE. BUT IF IT'S JUST LIKE, OH, IT'S A CITY BUILDING, WE NEED A GENERATOR THERE. SURE. LIKE, COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND, THAT'S NOT REALLY A, A REASONABLE SITUATION TO BE IN. YES, SIR. UNDERSTOOD. SO IT'S LIKE, ALL RIGHT, WELL LET'S GO FIND THE BIGGEST NEED FOR THE CITY AND THEN LET'S WRITE GRANTS FOR THAT. BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT Y'ALL DO, RIGHT? AND THEN YES, SIR. AND THEN ONCE AGAIN, WE SEE ALL THIS STUFF, BUT FOR THE PEOPLE WATCHING, COULD YOU EXPLAIN HOW THAT WORKS? LIKE, HOW Y'ALL GET PAID, COMPENSATED? SO BASED OFF OF OUR AWARDS, AND YES, SIR. SO, SO GRANT WORKS FOR THE MOST PART, THERE ARE ONLY A SELECT FEW AMOUNT OF GRANTS THAT WE WORK WITH WHERE WE'RE GETTING PAID UPFRONT. WE NEVER ASK FOR MONEY FROM A CITY OR A COUNTY UNLESS WE'RE WRITING A SPECIFIC APPLICATION FOR THEM. ALL OF OUR FUNDING COMES THROUGH GRANTS. THAT MEANING IF YOU GUYS WIN NO MONEY, WE DON'T, WE DON'T GET ANY PAYMENT. OKAY. THAT'S, THAT'S BASICALLY HOW, HOW IT GOES. SO IT'S A PERFORMANCE BASE, HOW MUCH YOU GET. YEAH. YES, SIR. HOW MUCH DO YOU GET, IS WHAT HE ASKING? OH, HOW, HOW MUCH WE GET PER, THAT WOULD BE A PERCENTAGE THAT IS BEYOND MY PAY GRADE, UM, PERCENTAGE THAT I DON'T SET. I APOLOGIZE THAT CAME, CAME OUT DIFFERENTLY. THAT'S ALL. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION OR THE ANSWER. SO SOMEBODY'S GOTTA KNOW HOW MUCH THEY GET. YEAH. SO WITH THE FEDERAL CONTRACTS, THERE ARE ENGINEERING SERVICES AND ADMIN SERVICES, AND THOSE PERCENTAGES ARE SET. YEAH. SO IT'S GONNA BE SET BY THE FEDS. THEY'LL SAY IT NORMALLY THE, THE AVERAGE ON ADMINISTRATION CAP WOULD BE ABOUT 10%. DOES IT COME OUTTA THE GRANT OR OUT OF OUR POCKET? IT COMES OUT OF THE GRANT. YEP. YES, SIR. SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY, WE GET MON, Y'ALL GET MONEY. IF WE GET MONEY, Y'ALL GET NO MONEY IF WE GET MONEY. YES, SIR. PERCENT I THAT, I LIKE THAT. WHAT ABOUT FLOOD CONTROL, UH, PROJECTS. SO, YEAH. SO I MEAN, THAT WAS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. I THINK THAT YOU ARE WORKING WITH, UH, HEID ZO RIGHT NOW TO SEE IF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS LINK UP WHAT WE THINK A MAXIMUM AWARD WOULD LOOK LIKE. LIKE, LIKE I SAID, THESE GENERATORS ARE NOT GONNA TAKE UP HARDLY ANYTHING. I THINK HOW, HOW MUCH ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT DOING? I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING LIKE UP TO THREE PROJECTS EACH, I DON'T RECALL EXACTLY WHAT THE GENERATORS WAS, BUT IT'S MULTIPLE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. THAT'S GONNA BE THE CAP THAT IF THEY DO DECIDE TO AWARD. SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT DOING IS, OKAY, WELL LET'S GET SOME GENERATORS, GET 'EM INTO THESE FACILITIES. BUT WE'RE ALSO GONNA LOOK AT WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED LIKE SOME HIGH PRIORITY, UH, DRAINAGE PROJECTS. AND ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE, IF THEY FALL WITHIN THAT KIND OF, THAT THE, THE, THE AMOUNT THAT THE FEDS ARE GONNA DIVVY OUT, I THINK THEY'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS. UH, 'CAUSE I THINK THEY HAVE THE POT OF MONEY ALLOCATED, BUT NOW THEY'RE DECIDING ON WHICH ONES ARE THE WORTHY PROJECTS. AND HEY, WE'LL GIVE YOU X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS. SO TO SAY, OH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING $5 MILLION. THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE CASE. THEY'RE GONNA LOOK, YOU KNOW, AT PROJECTS AND THEY'RE GONNA TRY TO SPREAD THAT OUT AMONGST ALL THE JURISDICTION. SO WE MAY END UP, THEY MAY SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A VERY WORTHY $5 MILLION PROJECT, BUT WE WANT TO DO A LOT OF PROJECTS AROUND THE STATE. SO WE'RE ONLY GONNA FUND YOUR $2.2 MILLION PROJECT, EVEN THOUGH WE DO BELIEVE YOUR $5 MILLION PROJECT IS, IS, IS WORTHY. BUT TO MEET OUR NUMBERS AND TO GET, AND TO HIT AS MANY CONSTITUENTS AS POSSIBLE. SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TRY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, AND THAT'S WHERE HIS JOB IS, IS TO HELP NEGOTIATE AND WORK THROUGH ALL THAT AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE SCORING IS AND WHY ARE WE GETTING WHAT WE'RE GETTING, BASICALLY, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA GO THROUGH AND FABRICATE, YOU KNOW, CREATE A LIST OF THESE FABRIC. WAIT, WHAT AM I FABRICATING? NO, I'M FABRICATING . I CHANGED THAT AND I CORRECTED MYSELF. CREATE A LIST OF THESE POTENTIAL PROJECTS. UH, SO I THINK, UH, NUMBER ONE, I THINK CHASE, I'LL LET YOU SPEAK TO IT. UH, WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH HEWITT SOLLERS RIGHT NOW ON THAT. YES, SIR. SO, JUST TO UPDATE COUNSEL IN OUR CITIZENS, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SITTING DOWN WITH GRANT WORKS. 'CAUSE I HAVE A LIST OF DRAINAGE PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY ENGINEERED WITH, WITH COST ASSOCIATED WITH THROUGHOUT OUR ENTIRE CITY OF HOTSPOTS OF DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT ALL WE NEED IS FUNDING AND SEND THESE OUT FOR CONSTRUCTION. YEAH. YEAH. SO, SO GENERATORS, UH, YOU KNOW, GENERATORS, DRAINAGE [03:15:01] ISSUES, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WORST OFFENDERS, UH, IS ACCORDING TO, UH, HEWITT ZOS. WHAT ABOUT TELECOMMUNICATIONS SUCH AS THE TRANSMISSION TOWER AT THE POLICE STATION? UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD, UM, FALL UNDER THAT CATEGORY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, PRIMARY AND SECONDARY, UH, YOU KNOW, TRANSMISSION NETWORKS AVAILABLE IN CASE OF NATURAL DISASTERS. I, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT WITH THEM. I WOULD, I WOULD SAY, IS THAT GENERALLY SPEAKING, UM, I WOULD, TO BE HONEST, I THINK, I THINK THE FLOOD MITIGATION PROJECTS WILL PROBABLY SCORE HIGHER BECAUSE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, LIKE, YOU KNOW, NOT THAT THEY CAN STOP ALL FLOODING AND SO FORTH, BUT IF YOU'RE STOPPING NEIGHBORHOODS FROM, FROM FLOODING, YOU'RE, YOU'RE LESSENING, UH, LOSS. 'CAUSE IF YOU REMEMBER, THIS IS THROUGH FEMA. FEMA'S THE ONE THAT'S PAYING OUT ALL THESE HOUSES THAT FLOOD. SO A LOT OF THIS IS GONNA BE OKAY. EMERGENCY RESPONSE IN A MOMENT. SO THAT'S WHERE THE TELECOMMUNICATION PORTION MAY COME IN AND THEY MAY GRADE THAT WELL, UH, BUT I'D ALSO KNOW THAT FEMA WANTS TO LOOK VERY HARD AT HOW ARE, HOW ARE THEY MITIGATING THEIR COSTS? EVERY TIME THERE'S A FLOOD IN DICKINSON, THEIR GOAL WOULD BE FOR THAT NUMBER TO GO DOWN AND DOWN AND DOWN ON THE NUMBER OF HOMES. YEAH, I WAS THINKING THAT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, UH, BECAUSE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NATURAL DISASTERS AS WELL. MM-HMM . YES. OR PREPARING FOR 'EM. UH, THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS IS GONNA BE VERY IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S IN CONTACT. UH, DICKINSON ALERT SYSTEM, I THINK THAT'S GOING THROUGH AT AND T. IS THAT CORRECT? MM-HMM. YES, SIR. AND SO, UH, SO ANYWAY, BUT YOU HAVE A SECONDARY NETWORK, A RADIO NETWORK, UH, MAYBE ENHANCING THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, YOU KNOW, WITH DEREK. MM-HMM. HE MAY HAVE SOME INPUT, BUT I WAS JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE 'CAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAD THOUGHT ABOUT IT. SURE. WELL, WE WILL DEFINITELY ADD THAT TO, UH, AND AGAIN, SOME OF THAT'LL BE FIGURING OUT WHAT TDO IS REALLY GONNA PRIORITIZE. THAT'S GONNA BE A BIG THING, IS UNDERSTANDING. 'CAUSE JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I, THE WAY I'VE SEEN GRANTS GO IS SOMETIMES IT'S EVEN, YOU KNOW, FROM DISTRIBUTION TO DISTRIBUTION, UH, WHOEVER'S JUDGING SOME OF THESE, SOME OF IT'S, THERE'S A PREFERENCE THAT COULD CHANGE WITH DIFFERENT STAFF AT, AT A HIGHER LEVEL THAN, YOU KNOW, THAN, UH, THAN JUST THE GRANT. A PERSON ON THE OTHER SIDE, LIKE SAY TDO, THEY, THEY MAY SAY, HEY, WE REALLY ARE FOCUSED ON TELECOMMUNICATION. SO WE ARE GONNA GET IN THE FIRST CONVERSATION AND SAY, WE'RE REALLY GONNA GRADE PROJECTS OF THESE CATEGORIES VERY WELL. THESE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE LIKE, UH, NOT SO MUCH UNLESS YOU CAN SHOW SOME TYPE OF COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS AND OTHERS WILL JUST BE ABSOLUTELY NOT EVEN CONSIDERED. YOU KNOW? AND SO I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE A LOT OF THAT CONVERSATION IS UNDERSTANDING, OKAY, TELL US WHAT, TELL US WHAT YOU'RE WILLING TO FUND. AND THEN WE ARE GONNA CREATE APPLICATIONS TO ENSURE THAT WE GET THE HIGHEST POSSIBLE SCORE POSSIBLE TO, TO GET THE GRANT MONEY AND CHASE, OR, OR YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS. UM, CAN WE DO STUFF LIKE, UM, WHEN WE DRIVE DOWN HIGHWAY THREE, DUR AFTER BARREL, IT WAS A WAR ZONE, UH, CLEANING UP CITIZENS TREES OFF OF THE POWER LINES. A LOT OF THEM CAN'T AFFORD TO DO IT. IS THAT A GRANT WE CAN ACTUALLY WRITE FOR TO MAYBE HELP OUT WITH THAT? 'CAUSE THAT'S A MITIGATION OF, SORRY, GO AHEAD SIR. NO, GO AHEAD. UM, FEMA DOES HAVE ANOTHER PROGRAM, PUBLIC ASSISTANCE THAT WE DO ASSIST WITH AS WELL. UM, IT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE HAZARD HAZARD MITIGATION, HOWEVER, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO FURTHER. I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT COEXISTED WITH HAZARD. YES. BECAUSE IT'S STILL AN ISSUE. WE DO NEED SOME PUBLIC ASSISTANCE WORK, UH, THROUGH THE FEMA, UH, THROUGH FEMA AND, AND TEEM, UM, ASSISTING THESE SMALLER CITIES THAT MAY NOT HAVE A BIG PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, IF ONE AT ALL, HELPING THEM GET BOOTS ON THE GROUND, UM, TO GET THOSE, YOU KNOW, HAZARDS OUT OF THE WAY IN THE ROADWAYS OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. THE LINES AND, OKAY. YES SIR. ALRIGHT. SINCE THEY WORK ON A CONTINGENCY BASIS, I'M SURE THAT THEY WILL APPLY FOR ANY GRANT THAT THEY THINK WE CAN QUALIFY FOR. OH, OF COURSE. SO EVERY TIME EXACTLY. RIGHT. THAT, THAT'S THE BIG BENEFIT IS IT'S A CONTINGENCY AND MAYOR ONLY FOR DAMAGE THAT YOU HAD. RIGHT? I MEAN, THIS IS MITIGATION FOR GRANTS FOR SOMETHING MIGHT HAPPEN NEXT SUMMER, IS IT? CORRECT. THIS IS A, THIS IS A MITIGATION GRANT. SO THIS IS ASSESSING THE, THE ISSUES THAT YOU HAVE AT THIS POINT AND MAKING SURE THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN DOWN THE ROAD. BUT IT WAS ONLY FOR BARRELL. THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR THAT Y'ALL ARE APPLYING FOR WAS FOR HURRICANE BARRELL. THERE ARE OTHER, UH, STORMS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE. SO WE HIRED THEM TO DO OTHER STUFF OR JUST FOR BARRELL. UH, RIGHT NOW, THIS IS JUST FOR, UH, THE RFP FOR THIS GRANT RIGHT NOW. NOW WE CAN DO A MORE GENERAL ONE, BUT THIS ONE IS SPECIFICALLY TO ENSURE THAT WE MEET FEDERAL GUIDELINES FOR THIS PROCUREMENT RIGHT NOW. SO IF WE WANT TO KIND OF EXPAND OUT, WE'LL JUST HAVE TO RE-ISSUE AN RFP AND THEY CAN BE ON THE ROSTER AS WELL. YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR SERVICES AND WHERE THE GENERATORS CAME FROM. IF YOU REMEMBER, IF WE CAN RECALL, BARREL KNOCKED OUT POWER LINES FROM TREES ALL OVER OUR REGION. IT WASN'T NECESSARILY A FLOODING EVENT. IT WAS MORE OF POWER ISSUE. SO IT WAS A WIND ISSUE. IT WAS A WIND EVENT. CORRECT. AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED ABOUT THE [03:20:01] TREE LINE OR THE TREES THAT ARE LITERALLY ON THE POWER LINES. LIKE IF WE CAN MITIGATE THAT BY CHOPPING 'EM OR FIXING THE SITUATION, THEN WE DON'T, I DON'T KNOW, TEXAS, NEW MEXICO. THEY MAY HAVE, THEY'RE NOT. YEAH, THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING. THEY DID. WELL, THEY CAME IN. THEY MAY PREVENT US FROM DOING THAT. I'M NOT SURE. SURE. I'VE GOT A QUICK QUESTION. IS THERE GENERALLY AN LMI COMPONENT ON THESE THINGS? NOT THAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH, WITH ANY FEMA PROGRAMS, SIR. OKAY. CORRECT. UH, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT GOING THROUGH THE, BECAUSE THE WHAT? WHAT, YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME I WORK WITH GLO, THAT'S BECAUSE THAT'S COMING THROUGH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT. AND SO THAT AUTOMATICALLY, SINCE THAT'S COMING THROUGH HUD, WHICH IS THE HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT MM-HMM . THOSE ALWAYS COME WITH THE, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT LMI COMPONENT. WELL, NOT ALWAYS, BUT, UH, ABOUT 95% OF THEIR PROGRAMS WILL, WILL HAVE AN LMI COMPONENT. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR, UH, EITHER TWO FINE GENTLEMEN UP HERE? IF NOT, UH, I HAVE A, DO WE HAVE A MOTION OR NO, WE JUST WENT STRAIGHT INTO PRESENTATION. RIGHT. SO MOTION TO APPROVE. I GOT A MOTION. SECOND TO APPROVE. AND A SECOND. SO I GOT MOTION FROM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BRANTLEY AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER LIN, UH, SCHICK OR LINTON? SCHICK. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYE. GOT ONE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSED. [8.I. Consideration and possible action to approve an ordinance to abandon an undeveloped right-of-way generally located west of Desel Drive and north of Hughes Road.] EIGHT. AYE. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE TO ABANDON AN UNDEVELOPED RIGHT OF WAY, GENERALLY LOCATED WEST OF DIESEL, DIESEL DRIVE, AND NORTH OF HUGHES ROAD. I DON'T THINK THAT'S HOW YOU SPELL DIESEL. IT IS DEEL DRIVE. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU PRONOUNCE IT THOUGH. DEEL. DESAL. IS IT DEEL? YES SIR. UH, SO GOOD EVENING AGAIN. UH, THIS IS APPROXIMATELY 1.31 ACRES OF, UH, LAND THAT IS ESSENTIALLY SANDWICHED BETWEEN, UH, THE HUGHES ROAD DEVELOPMENT, UH, BY MR. BLANCO AND THE DETENTION RESERVE. IT'S A LONG NARROW STRIP OF LAND, UH, LIKE YOU SAID, UNDEVELOPED. UH, I DO BELIEVE THIS IS PART OF THE PI, UH, THAT THEY WERE TO ABANDON THIS RIGHT OF WAY PLAN DEVELOPMENT. NOT PI, SORRY, . YEAH. MOVE TO APPROVE. GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE. I GOT A SECOND. I DO. GOT COUNCIL MEMBER BRANTLEY FOR THE MOTION. GOT COUNCIL MEMBER SIMPSON FOR THE SECOND. UH, LET'S HEAR SOME DISCUSSIONS IF WE HAVE ANY. UH, DANIEL, WOULD YOU CARE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, WE HAVE OUR DEVELOPER HERE. IF YOU COULD JUST TAKE A MOMENT, KIND OF SPEAK TO THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS AND, AND HOW IT WAS KIND OF INCORPORATED INTO THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT, UH, THAT THAT WAS PASSED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. DANIEL, IF YOU DON'T MIND. YEAH. APPRECIATE IT. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MAYOR. UH, YEAH, SO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKSTORY. THIS IS A RIGHT OF WAY THAT KIND OF TAILORS AT THE END OF THE CAMP ALLEN ROAD. IT WAS A RIGHT OF WAY THAT WAS INHERITED BY THE CITY AFTER THE COUNTY HAD AFTER, UH, IT ACTUALLY PREDATES BAYOU CHANTILLY, UH, WHERE A COUNTY RIGHT OF WAY. AND AS THE CITY BECAME INCORPORATED, THEY INHERITED THIS RIGHT OF WAY. UH, IT SERVES RIGHT NOW, THE PURPOSE OF THAT RIGHT OF WAY IS NOT FOR VEHICULAR TRAFFIC, IT'S PRIMARILY FOR SOME WATER AND SEWER LINES AND SOME DRY, SOME FRANCHISE UTILITIES. SO WE, UH, WE ARE ASKING FOR THE ABANDONMENT OF THAT RIGHT OF WAY SO THAT WE CAN CONNECT THE TWO SEGMENTS OF PIECES OF LAND THAT WE HAVE. WE'RE ABLE TO DEVELOP, UH, A DETENTION POND AND ADD SOME LOTS ONTO THE SOUTHEAST CORD OF, UH, FRANCHISE UTILITIES ARE WATER SEWER, WHICH IS THE WATER DISTRICT. WE HAVE TEXAS, NEW MEXICO, WE HAVE CENTER POINT GAS. UH, WE'RE OBTAINING LNO, WHICH STANDS FOR LETTERS OF NO OBJECTION FROM ALL OF THOSE AGENCIES CURRENTLY. SO PENDING THOSE LS COMING IN, WE'RE ASKING FOR THIS RIGHT OF WAY TO BE ABANDONED. AND UM, SO ARE Y'ALL GOING TO BE THE ONES THAT WILL BE MAINTAINING THAT, THAT AREA YEAH. SEGMENTS OF IT? YES. SO THE, THE, THE, THE MASTER PLAN, WHICH WE HAVE, UH, PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL ON, UH, SEGMENTS, THAT IS A RESERVE BA GOOD PORTION OF THAT RIGHT AWAY. MM-HMM . RESERVE B IS THE PUBLIC PARK LAND THAT IS BEING DEDICATED TO THE CITY PER THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. SO WE ARE IZING THAT AREA, UH, THAT WILL BE ACTUALLY DEDICATED VIA PLAT. SO PORTIONS OF IT ARE, ARE PRIVATE TO THE DEVELOPMENT AND PORTIONS OF IT ARE EVENTUALLY PUBLIC AFTER WE MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS. SO AFTER THAT THEY'LL GO BACK TO THE CITY, THE, THE PARK LANE? YES. IT'LL BE A PUBLIC PARK SPACE. OKAY. WELL, SO THE ONLY REASON WHY I ASK IS WE, RIGHT NOW I HAVE ACTUALLY TWO CITIZENS THAT HAVE BEEN, UM, CONTACT ME ABOUT THAT. UM, GATE, RIGHT? THERE'S A GATE RIGHT THERE THAT'S LOCKED. UH, AND SHE'S A OLDER WOMAN. THAT MAN OR BASICALLY TAKES CARE OF THAT WHOLE PROPERTY BACK THERE. 'CAUSE THE COUNTY FORGOT ABOUT IT. THE CITY DOESN'T TAKE CARE OF IT. AND SO SHE'S BEEN DOING IT. AND UH, ALSO SHE'S THE ONE THAT PUT THE LOCK ON THE GATE . SO IF YOU NEED TO GET THAT OFF, I CAN GET IT OFF . UH, BUT I WAS CURIOUS ON WHO'S GOING TO MAINTAIN THAT BACK AREA BACK THERE. 'CAUSE THAT'S ALL, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS THAT LIVE RIGHT THERE. SO I WAS CURIOUS WHO, WHO'S GONNA OWN THAT FROM CAMP ALLEN TO Y'ALL'S [03:25:01] PROPERTY? WHO OWNS THAT? CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. UM, THEO, BUT THE, THE DRAINAGE DISTRICT ACTUALLY HAS AN EASEMENT BACK THERE TO WHERE THEY MAINTAIN A SEGMENT OF BASICALLY ON BOTH SIDES OF METTLER'S GOALIE. YEAH. UM, NOT THE RIGHT OF WAY, BUT THAT RIGHT OF WAY ACCESS, ACCESS FOR THE, THE DRAINAGE DITCH DISTRICT TO MAINTAIN IT. SO THEY MAINTAIN A PORTION OF IT, BUT NOT THE RIGHT OF WAY SPECIFICALLY. YEAH, SHE'S NOT, I AM NOT CALLING ANYBODY A LIAR, BUT SHE'S, SHE'S NOT TALKING ABOUT THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT SHE'S MAINTAINING, SHE'S MAINTAINING SOME SPACE BACK THERE, WHICH IS A DRAINAGE EASEMENT BEHIND HER PROPERTY. SO THEY'RE KIND OF SEPARATE INSTANCES, BUT EVENTUALLY THIS DEVELOPMENT IS DEDICATING A 12 AND A HALF ACRES, WHICH IS THE ENTIRE AREA TO THE CITY FOR PUBLIC PARKLAND. MM-HMM . THAT'LL THEN BE MAINTAINED BY THE, I WAS JUST CURIOUS ON, SO WHEN WE ABANDON IT, RIGHT, LET, LET'S SAY WE ABANDON IT FROM CAMP ALLEN WHERE CAMP ALLEN STOPS TO YEAH. SO, SO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE, THE CREEK WILL THEN COME BACK TO THE CITY. OH, YEAH. SO, SO I'M JUST THINK OF IT. SO THINK OF IT THIS WAY, IS THAT, SO THE RIGHT OF WAY TECHNICALLY IS, IS BASICALLY, UH, JUST AN EASEMENT. SO YES. SO, SO IT'S, SO ANYTHING THERE WOULD BE TECHNICALLY CITY MAINTENANCE IF WE WERE TO MAINTAIN IT. BUT WHENEVER WE ABSOLVE OURSELVES AND WE GET RID OF THAT RIGHT OF WAY, THEN IT REVERTS BACK TO THE UNDERLYING OWNER TO MAINTAIN AND TAKE CARE OF THE PROPERTY AT THAT POINT. SO THEN WHEN IT GETS REDEDICATED BACK, SO, SO AT THAT POINT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPER, WHEREVER THE RIGHT OF WAY IS ON HIS PROPERTY, HEY, HE'S GOTTA MAINTAIN IT. UH, WHAT GETS REVERTED BACK TO THE CITY AT A LATER TIME, THEN IT'S BACK TO US. OKAY. YES, SIR. SO THAT, THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T LOSE TRACK OF WHO OWNS WHAT. SURE. BECAUSE THE COUNTY WAS ACTING LIKE WE OWNED IT, WE ACTED LIKE THE COUNTY OWNED IT AND THERE WAS A, A MIX UP. RIGHT? SURE. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE SO I KNOW WHAT, HOW I CAN, I CAN BE EDUCATED ON IT. YEAH. AND AS, AS A REMINDER I MAY ADD, WHICH WOULD HELP IN CONTEXT WHEN TALKING TO ANY OF THE CITIZENS AROUND THERE, UH, THERE'S A, THERE'S A LARGE DETENTION POND THAT'LL BE MAINTAINED PERPETUALLY BY THE HOA. SO THERE'S, THERE'S PORTIONS OF IT THAT ARE PUBLIC, THERE'S PORTIONS OF IT THAT ARE PRIVATE AND THERE'S PORTIONS OF IT THAT ARE HOA MAINTAINED IN PERPETUITY. YEAH. OKAY. THE, UM, RESERVE ON BAYOU CHANTEL, THE ONLY WAY YOU ACCESS THAT IS THROUGH THAT ROAD. SO WE MAY HAVE TO GIVE THEM AN EASEMENT WHEN THIS IS ALL CLEAR TO GET TO THAT TWO TWO ACRE RESERVE. YEAH. THERE IS A TWO ACRE RESERVE. YOU KNOW, IT MAY, I MEAN, DEPENDING ON WHAT, IF THEY'RE THINKING OF MAINTAINING IT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE OTHER QUESTION. YOU KNOW, IF, BECAUSE I THINK WE EVEN TALKED ABOUT OWNERSHIP OF THE RESERVE ACTUALLY. 'CAUSE I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THERE'S LIKE AN ENTITY THAT ACTUALLY OWNS IT AT THIS POINT. YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN OPPORTUNITY OF MAYBE, MAYBE, MAYBE AT THAT POINT IT WOULD BE BETTER OFF FOR US TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT IF WE'RE ALREADY GONNA BE TAKING ON THE 12, YOU KNOW, INCORPORATING THE TWO ACRES INTO IT. IF WE'RE ALREADY MAINTAINING, YOU KNOW, IF WE, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE HAVE THAT PARK, YOU KNOW, THEN IT BECOMES 14 ACRES. UNLESS SOMEONE'S GONNA, UNLESS, UNLESS THEY'RE REALLY HOPING TO KEEP, MAINTAIN, YOU KNOW, TRY TO MAINTAIN THAT RESERVE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ON THAT COUNCIL MEMBER. NOW, MS. DISPO IS THE ONE YOU'VE BEEN TALKING TO WHO SAYS SHE'S BEEN MAINTAINING THAT ALL SHE'S DOING IS MAINTAINING THAT RESERVE YES. BEHIND HER HOUSE. YES. SHE'S NOT MAINTAINING THE RIGHT OF WAY. SO ROSE DOING THAT. HMM. IS DE ROSE DOING THAT? MM-HMM . YEAH. PEGGY, YEAH, I WOULD SAY IS, I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF SOLUTIONS. ONE IS, UH, UNLESS SHE REALLY, REALLY LIKES CUTTING THE GRASS, UM, BUT MAYBE US WORKING OUT SOMETHING AS A CITY, UH, TO ACQUIRE THAT RESERVE. AGAIN, THERE'S, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY LEGAL ENTITY THAT CAN, THAT, THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS THAT OWNS IT. UH, I'M SURE THERE WAS PROBABLY SOME TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, HOA TYPE OF THING THAT AT ONE POINT EXISTED. SOMETHING LIKE IT, YOU KNOW, A PROPERTY OWNER'S ASSOCIATION THAT'S NOT ACTIVE ANYMORE. SO ANYWAY, IT TAKES SOMETHING LIKE A CITY TAKING OWNERSHIP TO CLEAR UP THOSE KIND OF THINGS SOMETIMES. AND THAT MAY BE A BETTER WAY TO DO IT. AND THAT'S MY WHOLE, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WITH ALL THESE MOVING AROUND, UM, MOVING OWNERSHIP BACK AND FORTH AND THIS AND THAT, I JUST DON'T WANT ANYTHING WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS TO GO, UM, FORGOTTEN. BECAUSE THEN THAT'S WHEN WE LOOK LIKE, UH, FOOLS. SO, UH, WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE WE COVER OUR BASE. THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY I BROUGHT IT UP, BUT, ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR, UH, NORMALLY, UH, WHEN WE ABANDONED SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE HAVE IT APPRAISED AND WE SELL IT AND WE OFFER IT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS ON BOTH LIKE A STREET OR SOMETHING. MM-HMM . MM-HMM . ARE WE HAVING THIS APPRAISED AND SELLING IT, OR, UH, I BELIEVE THAT'S YOU JUST GIVING IT AWAY CITY LAND? NO, IT'S, IT'S, UH, WELL FIRST OF ALL, IT, IT'S, IT'S A RIGHT OF WAY. THAT WAS PART OF A PLAN DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT WAS KIND OF, THAT WAS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, DANIEL, IF YOU WANNA SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT, I'LL LET YOU CORRECT. THIS IS A RIGHT OF WAY. AGAIN, THAT WAS INHERITED BY THE CITY AND FROM PRE BA. SO [03:30:01] THE RIGHT OF WAY IS CURRENTLY BEING USED FOR WATER AND SEWER CITY'S NOT REALLY USING THAT RIGHT OF WAY. UH, NOR THEY MAINTAINING IT CURRENTLY. UH, THE CONSIDERATION THAT THE DEVELOPER IS GIVING FOR THE ABANDONMENT OF THIS RIGHT OF WAY IS A 12 AND A HALF ACRE OF PARK LAND IS IZING IT AND MAKING ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS. SO WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF COMPENSATION AND THEREFORE, UH, THE IMPROVEMENTS BEING MADE. MM-HMM . THAT'S 'CAUSE UH, WE HAD THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT ALONG WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT KIND OF TIED TOGETHER AND LINK EACH OTHER TO IT. SO, UH, THAT, THAT'S KIND OF THE CONTRACTUAL CONSIDERATION THAT, UH, DANIEL'S SPEAKING OF. OKAY. ANY OTHER, UH, COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS? IF NOT, I GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE AND I GOT A SECOND. SO, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. UH, OPPOSED? AYE. MOTION PASSED. ALL RIGHT. SO, UH, THAT TAKES US INTO, UH, [9. EXECUTIVE (CLOSED) SESSION(S)] WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION AT 9 31 WITH [10. ACTION ITEMS FROM EXECUTIVE (CLOSED) SESSION(S)] FRANK PRICE VERSUS THE CITY OF DICKINSON. I MOVE TO AUTHORIZE THE SETTLEMENT OF THE PRICE VERSUS CITY OF DICKINSON LAWSUIT AS DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION. I GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE IT. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. I GOT A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER SCHICK. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OH, SORRY ABOUT THAT. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSED. 10 B 5 51 0.074 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION CONCERNING THE EVALUATION OF AN EMPLOYEE TO ITS CITY ATTORNEY. UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION? WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING? UH, YEAH, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY ACTION TO TAKE FOR THAT. OH, WE DON'T, Y'ALL DON'T ACCEPT THE REPORT WE GIVE TO HIM OR WE DON'T ACCEPT THAT? NO, WE'RE GOOD. OKAY. 10 C 5 51 0 7 1 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING POTENTIAL, POTENTIAL LITIGATION TO WHICH UNI FIRST SETTLEMENT. MOVE TO AUTHORIZE THE SETTLEMENT OF THE FIRST CONTRACT MATTER DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION. GOT A MOTION FOR COUNCIL MEMBER BRANTLEY? DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND. FROM COUNCIL MEMBER LINTON. UH, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSED. 10. ADJOURN. UH, YOU GOT ONE MORE, RIGHT? NO, WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THAT. ONE SECOND. GOT A MOTION TO, UH, ADJOURN. GOT A SECOND. FROM COUNCIL MEMBER BRANTLEY. AND COUNCIL MEMBER LINTON. UH, ALL IN FAVOR? ALRIGHT. ANY OPPOSED? THINK BILL. UH, I WAS SCHLEY IN SCH. OH, WAS IT? YEAH. OH, EXCUSE ME. BILL. BILL WAS THE SECOND. ALL RIGHT, WELL, MEETING ADJOURNED AT WHATEVER TIME. IT'S 10 36. COUNCILMAN? 10 36. BILL COUNCILMAN SCHICK. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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